Bro you just take the bolts out. I tried to video that but you can’t see anything with my hands in the way so it was useless footage.

Thanks! Yeah I called Nissan and they said not to do it as well and mine has 150k+ but it was acting weird so I went ahead and did it anyway. It seems much better now. And not issue knock on wood 😂. I think the main issue was the external filter on a lot of these. Best to change them for the peace of mind anyways. Cvt fluid needs changed or will destroy the trans from what I read. I’m going to change mine every 18-20k from now on. Probably just a drain and external filter. I’m glad the video helped!

For what part?

Please do!

No it gets hot enough.

Love the exhaust! And thank you!

I will say since I did change the exhaust and now hold the clutch in even when in neutral it seems to start much easier.

@@CJ_Kraus I bet it breathes better, I was eye balling the 2 brothers exhaust for it too

I feel that!

After I did the video I realized this. I checked it and it’s seems to be smoother now. It’s better than it was before I changed it that’s for sure!

Were did you find the internal filter?

Sounds good!

Oh nice! How do you like them?

I’d watch a few KZbin videos of different exhaust systems and see what one you like the best. That’s what I did.

Lithium batteries are not resistant to vibration like agm are. Agm are also sealed.

@keithulhul7540 why do you need a sealed lithium? There is no fluid. They weigh 1/3 of an AGM. And I'm not sure what you mean by vibration since a lot of outdoor power equipment (lawn mowers, chainsaws, etc) run on lithium batteries. I have freinds that run them in their dirt bikes. No issues. But to each their own.

@jimmyjames6487 the battery is right behind the front tire. And exposed to the elements. Vs other bikes keeping it under the seat. You do you, but I wouldn't take the chance on a lithium with the pan.

I got the screen updated and I learned with the stock battery if you pull the clutch in it starts every time so far. I probably will update the battery in the future tho just for peace of mind.

@keithulhul7540 yes, I know where the battery is located because I'm the one that replaced it over a year ago. Im beginning to think you dont have any knowledge on lithium motorcycle battery's. A few companies make a direct replacement sized and fitted for the PA. They all carry a "waterproof" rating, so I'm not sure where you are getting your information. Do you really think they would sell a battery specifically listed for that bike if they believed damage to a 25k bike would happen? No. Another reason I went with the antigravity brand is the built in Jumpstart feature. If the battery discharges to a certain point, it shuts itself off "sleep mode" to maintain enough charge to start the bike. You simply plug the remote into the battery tender port and press a button. It wakes up the battery and you can restart the bike. I found this option handy because of the location of the battery and the work involved just to get a jump pack hooked to it. But hey, if you want a 10lb paperweight that barely has enough juice to start your bike, keep the stock AGM. You do you.

Thanks!!

Did I say 2001? 🫠

Those are very nice!!

I feel ya haha

Thanks!

I’m looking at the new 2024 pan am. Can’t decide on spokes or road rims

It has its quirks haha buts it fun

Thanks! They have their issues that’s for sure!

Nope, it’s good!

Slip on?

Nah it runs better tbh. Seems to start easier too.

That’s facts!

My bike needed 4 updates. So far so good!

Harley did update the battery and charging systems for 2024 Pan America. My dealer didn’t update anything on my bike besides the update for the screen. Which I had to pay for. If it’s not under warranty I would try to purchase a 2024 if you can just to avoid the little issues the 2021 has. Mine still runs and rides fine tho. Nothing wrong the bike in that department.

@@CJ_Kraus Thank you so much for your answer ,really appreciate it. The reason i like to get 2021 model is because its 3k cheaper than the 22 model and the 23 model are still rare here in Switzerland , there reasons are : at the beginning Harley Dealers in Swiss introducing pan Amerrica some Swiss riders bought the bike and not even a month or maybe 2 to 3 months they went back to their dealer because of the problems with the bike , and that was bad start for Pan America in Swiss and there for very less people consider to buy the Bike and the Dealers has difficulties to get the newest model like 2022 because Harley USA will not send the Dealers new model if the dealers did not sell the 2021 model and thats why there are long waiting for 2022 model and 2023 model . and i think for 2024 model it will come next year and its still depends on how Harley Swiss can assure the market that Pan America Problems are solved . for comparisson to USA ,the cheapest 2021 Pan America Special are around 17K with 3 months guarante from dealer . Have a nice weekend , cheers .

I thought about it but I just wanted something different and a little shorter. They don’t sound bad at all!

Nice!!

It might be a combination of my exhaust and pulling in the clutch before I start that allows it to start first try. It’s been working good for me so far and it’s still the stock battery. I’ll give an update if one day that doesn’t work haha then I will upgrade the battery to a better one.

Thanks!

@@CJ_Kraus you may have made up my mind on what I will be replacing the stock exhaust on mine. Thank you

I would say one of those mask that cover your neck head and nose, but I wear glasses so that would case my glasses to fog. If you don’t have glasses one of those would work nice.

Any good quality neck gaiter helps!

Nice man! Thanks! Yeah they know the starting is an issue but don’t want to do anything because that’s how it came from factory. It’s just irritating but oh well

Don't let them pull that crap! Of course they don't want to.. I heard "they all do that" half a dozen times until I complained enough then I heard "ohhh, there IS an upgraded starter clutch"...

But as an FYI, I had an Indian scout that had the same problem for years. They NEVER figured it out. "They all do that, just crack the throttle before you hit the button" they said. That'll cause a fault light on the PA, so don't do that. 😂

oh also get the heel shifter and ehaust deflector from aaedea. Also get the screaming eagle quick shifter from harley if your bike is 22 or newer you can add it.. Also black dog skid plate. Denaili air horn. Also daymaker auxilury lights there bad ass.All your light and radiator guards. If you are short get the low seat.These are just a few of the things i got on my 22 Pan GI edition. I just bought it new in dec. It has more options now then the cvo.I like both colors though.

I just bought those fender extenders for mine.

I didn’t ride it much the first year I had it. We had to move in a hurry. Life got in way so to speak. I get it I am aware I’m trying to do better. I appreciate the feedback!

Thanks!

I take it in the hay fields in the summer time when hay season is in. We don’t really have any off-road trail near me. Just a lot of gravel roads. I might ride to some on the summer time if I have time tho this year.

nice@@CJ_Kraus

You’ll like it!

man what a bad ass bike@@CJ_Kraus

That’s for sure! I did try selling it back to the dealer but it lost to much value. I had to move and needed to free up money but they wasn’t even interested, so I kept it. It’s not a bad bike at all and I enjoy riding it. I just wish they would warranty the issues better. Other than the few issues it does have, it’s a great bike and a very good platform.

If it’s not going to put you in more debt then yes I love mine if you like going off the beaten path they are great!

Thanks bro! Keep the feedback coming so I can improve.

It was the first year so I knew going into it there would be some bugs to work out that’s for sure.

In the video it wasn’t but it is now and still moves some so idk. 😂

Got 4 updates done, 174 dollars later. Found out you can do a software update yourself on HD’s website for the infotainment system… who knew haha

So far everything seems ok. The blank screen issues didn’t bother me to much it’s that no start that gets me the most. I wish HD would warranty that battery and upgrade it.

​@@CJ_KrausOP is correct about the anti gravity battery. I changed mine after a couple months of ownership. It's double the cranking amps and light as a feather. You do need to buy a lithium charger too. It solved my no start/slow start problems.

@@bobcob3362I’ll definitely have to get one that’s for sure! I can’t stand the starting issue.

u know what your talking about. I have 16 k on my.Many options done. Also quick shifter.Too many to list. M2 times more then the cvo. I went with the vance and hines exhaust.Best harley i have ever owned

Yeah why not? I had Vance and Hines on my fat boy and was not really impressed for the price. A guy at the dealer has Vance and Hines on his Pan America and I’m gonna be honest the Pazoma sounds better to me.

​@@CJ_KrausI agree. Although I went with the two brothers exhaust on mine which sounds phenomenal, I went with several pazoma add ons too. The hard bags are great. Several protection covers around the bike, risers, and just about everything they offer. Same or better quality than the over priced harley stuff that's made in China anyways.

@@bobcob3362two brother are always a good choice they always should great! I was looking at the Pazoma bags too but I already had the Harley bags or I would have went with them on that too!

I use Lextek, a British company who get their products made in China, bulletproof so far,10s of thousands of miles used...avoid the carbon ones

Boutique exhausts are still just tubing. Bike parts markups are absurd.

Well I’m going to Harley today anyways so I’ll ask them about it. It did have some test ride miles before I got it. But now I gotta check it out haha

It’s never had an update it will in the spring when I take it in. I havnt tried it after I made this video. I’ll give it a shot tm and see! How you like it?

@@CJ_Kraus dude, i traded in a lowrider s and couldn't be happier, I'm older though and love the riding position...and it handles like a dream

Yeah man! I traded a new Fatboy for it. I like riding dirt roads and the Fatboy with those fat tires were sketch on gravel. The pan America can easily go 30 on gravel just fine it’s wild.

@@CJ_Kraus right! I'm at the point where when I'm riding I like to look and go I wonder where that leads.....

It’s loud on start up when it’s really cold but after it’s warm it’s not bad. It’s not as loud as a regular Harley that’s for sure