Are you UK based?

@@pershorecollegearboriculture Yes I am

@@oddball1999 The video is a revision guide for UK Arbs who are yet to be assessed for tree climbing & aerial rescue. The guide follows Technical Guide 1, known as TG1 and industry best practice, if climbers climbed one one single line and a short lanyard, they wouldn’t pass their assessment.

@@pershorecollegearboriculture Yes I realise that, I was just questioning why, as its suppose to be safer but in what I've seen more time and energy spent climbing on two main lines = more likely accidents Is it something required in the work place as well?

@@oddball1999 Everyone in the UK should be climbing to TG1 specifications, if you don’t and there is an accident, technically insurance may not be valid

If you move your feet, the brake must go on! You have to jump through the hoops to make the grade!😂

Imagine carrying a loaded gun with no safety and then walking over a pile of wet logs..... It's the same thing.

It's excessive for sure,but better safe in a course than injured

Now your just showing your ignorance. Tell me. What else are the slots for on the clutch then? Perhaps post a video of how you do it the right way?

The purpose of the training providers that make you laugh is to provide training so that the learners pass the external assessment, of which near all of them do and never have any of them failed an assessment for the unsafe or incorrect use of tools in the removal of the clutch system. Ps ​​@DakArbor beat me to it,

Also, didn't you comment on this video a while back stating you were thinking of taking your CS30?

Ignorance eh!!! Ha ha I think you will find that the slots on the clutch are for the engagement of the proper husqvarna clutch removal tool. PLEASE tell me why Husqvarna make these tools and instruct people to use them in their factory repair manuals. I am fairly sure that in the husqvarna dealerships they have hammers and screwdrivers, PLEASE tell me why do they not simply use these?? ANYONE, that chisels things around with a screwdriver does not have a clue what they are doing, leaving aside it is misusing a tool..@@DakArbor

@@caerleon87 wrong slots… I was referring to the slots used to remove the clutch in the way shown, but then you’d know that if you had your cs30. Anyway, being an expert you’d be exempt. Clearly know it all. Have a great day!

It's a requirement here in the UK, pretty sure this guy in an instructor at a college and this is video showing part one of the course here.

They are required to have two primary climbing systems in the UK.

Most if not all training providers would supply everything you would need, except PPE

I’m afraid if you’re asked to during your assessment and you don’t know how, you’ll fail the assessment. Details of the assessment can be found on the NPTC website

and when your starter spring snaps?

I will repair it in my workshop complete with a proper tool kit rubber topped benches and compressed air..@@DakArbor

@@caerleon87 fair enough each to their own. Personally and for many others that would mean a lost days work for something I could fix in a few minutes on-site. After all, things tend to break in the forest. Not the workshop. Good luck with your assessment!

This is a revision video for students who have undergone the full training at the college for the NPTC assessment where without the use of the chainbrake they WILL fail.

If you aren’t cutting with the chainsaw the brake should be on. These demonstrators are showing you that to the extreme. All it takes it a little chain creep, or press of a button and you might need to invest in another pair of chainsaw trousers, and that’s if you’re lucky!

Safety first, foremost, front and centre.

@@adelarsen9776 IMHO the chain brake mechanism is not robust enough, or designed for, this kind of usage. However the OFF switch and starter mechanism are.

@PerryFire Hi mate, yes we do have plans In place for lifting/raising of a casualty if a strait decent isn't practical. We could perhaps work on a short video for that! There's more to it and depends what system the casualty is on but as a brief description, a friction and pully system would be installed above the casualty, line fed through to make a two into 1 hauling system groundsman could haul/pull lifting the casulty. There are other ways of doing this aswell. Hopefully that describes it will enough but we can work on a short video!

I would like to see your techniques as taught. You just don't see any lifting done on arborist videos. I even went to an arborist rescue competition once and they only accessed and lowered. I'm familiar on SPRAT, ITRA, and IRATA techniques but I'm always curious how an arborist intends to accomplish the same job. We don't always have the luxury of simply lowering our casualty onto our system or their system. Back when I was active I always carried a small homemade 3:1 with a micro-traxion for lifting victims. Although counter-weight techniques work they aren't fun and they involve a fair amount of proper balance and coordination. Also, do you guys ever use pick-off straps or the rock climbing equivalents? And I noticed you use a two-rope system. Is that required now in Great Britain? Cheers

​@@perryfire3006 for the most part, my personal opinion, within arb its much less likely that providing the climber turned casualty has managed his ropes, route and work within the tree they would need to be lifted. As I said in the event they need to be lifted there are ways and equipment that most teams would have available to do so but its all about the work/rescue being planned, prior to it being needed. Counter balance techniques are relatively common within arb, as a rescue for SRT systems and pole rescues mostly. There is no "two rope system" its commonly put like that but its climbing with a primary and back up system, our working at hight act 2005 specifies, in short, that you need a working line that provides access, egress and movement and a back up system that reduces the consequence and severity of a fall. They dont need to be "two rope systems" in the way most mean, specifically. I guess it ends up that way, as most often it can be the easiest way to ensure compliance. The video shows rescuing on 4 yes, but as Ben in the video states you can remove systems to provide a faster and more efficient rescue, one of the reasons its not done in the video is our industry standards and guidance recommend that during simulation and training another line or system stays installed, although in a real rescue scenario you can emit back up systems and be compliant, as i said for a fast and efficient rescue. There are other reasons aswell. The industry has technical guides that outline it all you can buy, not expensive either. Certainly a video idea though mate!

@@ajfreelancearb Thanks for a detailed response. I'll be watching for that video.

To pass the competency assessment in the UK they must meet certain criteria. This video is for revision for the students who have undergone the complete training at the college where they look a range of rescue techniques.

OK I understand but this way can not be useful and safe in a real situation 4 different ropes unnecessary when any climber get problems in the tree Sorry but this is my opinion and experience. If you climbing DDRT "hitch climber setup" just add a rope wrench in to the sistem and ready to use. Or another divice like : Dmm anchor ring with a carabiner, or just a figure8 Sorry to bother you Kind regards

@@jardikferenc194 it's fine pal your not bothering anyone, it's good to chat and share ideas. They can go down to one line to rescue as you say with extra friction provided, there's a couple of reasons why they havnt here related to assessment criteria and training standards, but as you say the rescue could be done dropping down to 1 or 2 lines And as I said they do look at these options too. Thank you 👍

Andy Jones thank you for the video 👍

@@jardikferenc194 I believe the 4 systems between 2 climbers represent a new policy in Europe to utilize 2 lifelines per climber. It does make a rescue scenario more involved. 2 lifelines would be beneficial in some respects. I like the idea for safety & positioning purposes. The con would be fatigue from additional friction & line management.

Simple answer is the bowline is one of the three knots in the ‘three knot system’ students have to learn and demonstrate this in their proficiency assessment.

@@pershorecollegearboriculture would you use that with a carabiner or just a snap? I’m in the US, so not familiar with your exams.

@@woodpeckerarborist You’d attach the bowline to the bridge of the harness with a carabiner

@@pershorecollegearboriculture very interesting to hear how you do it. We teach it as okay for a snap, but not a carabiner. Because the carabiner can rotate, bowline can catch the gate, possibly side loading or even opening it. I prefer to teach the scaffold knot for this, but I’m not teaching for an exam. Thanks for the discussion.

@@woodpeckerarborist I’m all fairness, not many people use this system these days, it is still a requirement to know how to tie it though, useful to know as a backup

Thanks for the feedback, appreciated 👍

Probably the slowest ascent that I have ever seen. OK for sport/rec climbing, I guess, ...but a profit sucking method for tree work. Definitely super safe! What's the point of a stopper knot on a tail with 30 feet of the rope resting on the ground?! p.s. I did enjoy the video, though. Very well done as an educational effort. Will subscribe to the channel.

@@warped2875 Stopper knot is a requirement for the assessment and industry best practice under TG1, Thanks for subscribing pal 👍

they must have 2 points of attachment at all times, seems so slow. The gear is stronger and more reliable than ever these days so this seems excessive. its still interesting to see though

@@flowwithtrees9248 The gear is more reliable seems like the trees are getting weaker In a roundabout way There's a million And one ways to skin a cat I know I'll make that a complete tangled mess It'll be like Spider-Man on his worst day🤔😁🇺🇲

​@@flowwithtrees9248I think the 2 points of a attachment is because the HSE believe that the anchor in the tree might fail so you should have another back up anchor. But you could also solve that problem by educating how to choose a reliable anchor instead of slowing people down and costing them more money but that's how the HSE works. If they had their way everyone would have a high Vis and hard hat when leaving the house