Tree Climbing - Aerial Rescue - Damaged and Undamaged Rope

[@stephenneeson5194]

Just stop bleeding out for 10 minutes Andy so i can pull my rope through this redirect.....

[@nigelpugh]

A fantastic college with a wide range of courses and programs. We are happy to be a part of the educational team.

[@totaratree99]

Nice one. Thanks for posting. Can never have too much training on rescues.

[@zanecrofts7085]

How come you have 2 climbing systems for one person I've never seen that before

[@ryansams1271]

They are required to have two primary climbing systems in the UK.

[@totaratree99]

Interesting with the two systems per climber. It would be difficult to control four prussiks if the casualty was unconscious.

[@jardikferenc194]

1 DDRT sistem a flipline, breadge connection, and a redirect far enough for a fast and safe areal rescue.

[@ajfreelancearb]

To pass the competency assessment in the UK they must meet certain criteria. This video is for revision for the students who have undergone the complete training at the college where they look a range of rescue techniques.

[@jardikferenc194]

OK I understand but this way can not be useful and safe in a real situation 4 different ropes unnecessary when any climber get problems in the tree Sorry but this is my opinion and experience. If you climbing DDRT "hitch climber setup" just add a rope wrench in to the sistem and ready to use. Or another divice like : Dmm anchor ring with a carabiner, or just a figure8 Sorry to bother you Kind regards

[@ajfreelancearb]

@@jardikferenc194 it's fine pal your not bothering anyone, it's good to chat and share ideas. They can go down to one line to rescue as you say with extra friction provided, there's a couple of reasons why they havnt here related to assessment criteria and training standards, but as you say the rescue could be done dropping down to 1 or 2 lines And as I said they do look at these options too. Thank you 👍

[@jardikferenc194]

Andy Jones thank you for the video 👍

[@paulliebeck2640]

@@jardikferenc194 I believe the 4 systems between 2 climbers represent a new policy in Europe to utilize 2 lifelines per climber. It does make a rescue scenario more involved. 2 lifelines would be beneficial in some respects. I like the idea for safety & positioning purposes. The con would be fatigue from additional friction & line management.

[@perryfire3006]

Any videos in the works for lifting the casualty before the pick-off? Most videos I see and even competitions involve simply accessing and lowering the casualty on a working system. What's your plan for raising Andy? I would be curious to see how arborists take care of that issue. Thanks

[@ajfreelancearb]

@PerryFire Hi mate, yes we do have plans In place for lifting/raising of a casualty if a strait decent isn't practical. We could perhaps work on a short video for that! There's more to it and depends what system the casualty is on but as a brief description, a friction and pully system would be installed above the casualty, line fed through to make a two into 1 hauling system groundsman could haul/pull lifting the casulty. There are other ways of doing this aswell. Hopefully that describes it will enough but we can work on a short video!

[@perryfire3006]

I would like to see your techniques as taught. You just don't see any lifting done on arborist videos. I even went to an arborist rescue competition once and they only accessed and lowered. I'm familiar on SPRAT, ITRA, and IRATA techniques but I'm always curious how an arborist intends to accomplish the same job. We don't always have the luxury of simply lowering our casualty onto our system or their system. Back when I was active I always carried a small homemade 3:1 with a micro-traxion for lifting victims. Although counter-weight techniques work they aren't fun and they involve a fair amount of proper balance and coordination. Also, do you guys ever use pick-off straps or the rock climbing equivalents? And I noticed you use a two-rope system. Is that required now in Great Britain? Cheers

[@ajfreelancearb]

​@@perryfire3006 for the most part, my personal opinion, within arb its much less likely that providing the climber turned casualty has managed his ropes, route and work within the tree they would need to be lifted. As I said in the event they need to be lifted there are ways and equipment that most teams would have available to do so but its all about the work/rescue being planned, prior to it being needed. Counter balance techniques are relatively common within arb, as a rescue for SRT systems and pole rescues mostly. There is no "two rope system" its commonly put like that but its climbing with a primary and back up system, our working at hight act 2005 specifies, in short, that you need a working line that provides access, egress and movement and a back up system that reduces the consequence and severity of a fall. They dont need to be "two rope systems" in the way most mean, specifically. I guess it ends up that way, as most often it can be the easiest way to ensure compliance. The video shows rescuing on 4 yes, but as Ben in the video states you can remove systems to provide a faster and more efficient rescue, one of the reasons its not done in the video is our industry standards and guidance recommend that during simulation and training another line or system stays installed, although in a real rescue scenario you can emit back up systems and be compliant, as i said for a fast and efficient rescue. There are other reasons aswell. The industry has technical guides that outline it all you can buy, not expensive either. Certainly a video idea though mate!

[@perryfire3006]

@@ajfreelancearb Thanks for a detailed response. I'll be watching for that video.