Very much appreciated both of you. Thankyou for this lovely conversation :)
@benward45856 күн бұрын
Maybe Socrates would have liked books with comments sections
@MikeFuller-d4d7 күн бұрын
I like what Epicurus taught, that there is nothing to fear in death, it is just a disappearance.
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo38589 күн бұрын
For the record, I am pretty sure that Milton Erickson is the reincarnation of Socrates.
@cognomen00429 күн бұрын
Thank You!
@janpahl601510 күн бұрын
Muchísimas gracias Don Pablo, me quitaste gracias a Dios la duda que siempre tuve de si el mazdeísmo más antiguo era o no realmente monoteísta y efectivamente si que lo fue
@jamessheffield417313 күн бұрын
Xenophon is my favorite pagan.
@vs626417 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for such an informative discussion about Zoroastrian philosophy.
@jeffmarlatt653818 күн бұрын
A job well done by the both of you. This was the first time listening to a video from your channel. But it certainly will not be the last.
@ClassicalWisdom17 күн бұрын
Thank you!! Lovely to hear that
@mark.J670819 күн бұрын
Read him so long ago it's hard to remember when. And no, not a West Point person.
@MagicJesus20 күн бұрын
Heracles uses his club as a metaphor for the power he got from father Zeus. Zeus rules only by his power, which, is beyond all other gods. And, he can turn the gods' powers against them. As gods, they are extensions of their parents anyway, just like humans. Gods are to humans as the human royals are to peasants. In both cases, the humans grovel to the gods.
@cliffjamesmusic24 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this wonderful upload. Myths are not only fascinating but important because of what they expose through the use of archetypes when considering our own situation. Allied to this, beliefs are more important than any absolute reality which may exist because beliefs determine our opinions, attitudes and behaviour and so are more important than facts in determining how we relate to each other. All belief systems should be open to being challenged or ridiculed, whether political, economic, scientific, religious or whatever, especially where they impact on the lives of people and the environment. With regard to, for example, the Abrahamic-rooted theistic religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam - they claim moral and sometimes earthly rights based on conflicting stories and mythologies that somebody wrote, supposedly recording what somebody supposedly said about what somebody supposedly claimed as divine inspiration from a divinity, the existence for which there is no evidence. Unfortunately, they still contain what can be used by fundamentalists to cause significant harm and the dogmatism prevents learning; something which I encourage in this little song: Fundamentalism or Humanism / war or peace kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6vRZZhnr5h4jJY
@deejamieson27 күн бұрын
Love love LOVE Natalie's work! Thank you for this precious talk.
@terrydickinson725227 күн бұрын
I’ve discovered Classics in my 60’s thanks to Stephen Fry - brilliant!
@ClassicalWisdom26 күн бұрын
Wonderful! Always a time for the Classics :D
@JeffPryor29 күн бұрын
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@papertoyssАй бұрын
I kindly disagree with professor Cartledge (if this can be even spelled by someone who has no professional relation with History) on that the name of an Asiatic woman named the Condinent of Europe. First of all this whole story is part of the Greek *mythology* - no need to argue on what this means rather than it is Greek. But mainly the name "Europe" itself it is Greek composed by the Greek "eurus" meaning wide and "ops" meaning eyes or face.
@EannaButlerАй бұрын
The grace of Stephen, and of the wonderful host - who knows how to stay perfectly silent, yet deeply engaged thru natural body language cues - all so wonderfully bound. Stephen's orange buttoned t-shirt pales in the face of the gorgeous green gown though! ❤
@PDiddi-YadvАй бұрын
Thanks
@arthillside5837Ай бұрын
Well done. Thank You
@WillMowassАй бұрын
Thank you for this talk, I am currently reading Mr. Craven's book and am loving it.
@SleinJinnАй бұрын
I watched the recent episode with Ms. Haynes, and immediately dug up the earlier episodes to watch, too. I love the energy between you two; I could easily watch a weekly Haynes & Leonard podcast!
@Bob-zs3roАй бұрын
This clown is a verbal emporers new clothes. T wat .
@Bob-zs3roАй бұрын
Myths ok but not Jesus, you jumped up twat n gob shite.
@Bob-zs3roАй бұрын
Myths ok but mot Jesus. You jumped twat.
@petershipman9496Ай бұрын
Is Paul Cartledge drunk? His is the most cliche "academic" and self-serving introduction, talk, thing, I've ever witnessed. I didn't not enjoy it, but damn, that man is a caricature
@ELLAS1234Ай бұрын
yes!!!, yes!!, that's why they had 6 gods and 6 goddesses, that's why the first scientists women were in ancient Greece and that's why the high priests were women in religion!
@kurts4867Ай бұрын
QC!!!!
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
Actually, Cadmus, Europa and Phoenix were great grand children of Zeus and the Greek Io, according to mythology. So Europe is not Asian, it is very, very Greek.
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
Actually, the name Europe itself is Greek meaning wide gazing or wide face.
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
According to mythology, Zeus and Io begot Epaphus who begot Libya. Poseidon with Libya begot Agenor, Belus and Lelex. Belus with Libya begot Phineus, Phoenix, Aegyptus, Danaus, Ninus. Agenor begot Cadmus, Europa and Phoenix! So what this myth tells us is that Egyptians, Libyans, Phoenicians, Ninevehans were all offspring of Zeus and the Greek Io! You started telling the myth half way through. But what does the myth signify? When was the myth developed?
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
Thebes was never a forgotten city. In all history books on Ancient Greece, it is celebrated.
@ClassicalWisdomАй бұрын
It is - but I don't think it has the household recognition of Sparta or Athens
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
@@ClassicalWisdom As high school students, we were fascinated about how Epaminondas defeated the Spartans. We were also fascinated by the Theban plays of the Athenian tragedian Sophocles: Oedipus Tyrannus, Antigone, Oedipus at Colonus.
@DemetriosKongasАй бұрын
@@ClassicalWisdom The poet Hesiod who wrote Theogony and Works and Days at about the time Homer wrote Iliad and Odyssey was from Beotia and he wrote in Aeolian dialect.
@TheElitesPlaygroundBathUKАй бұрын
Stephen was a jew last week,what will he be this week i wonder. Narc watch. They say Stephen is a national treasure 😂 they said the same thing about jimmy Saville. The bbc have a terrible record of sexual child abuse don't they😮
@juniusluriuscatalus6606Ай бұрын
This was fascinating, very welcome suggestion in my YT feed and perfect spice to tasteless monday afternoon. Thanks. I might have to check out what else your channel has to offer!
@ClassicalWisdomАй бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! We cover quite a full range of topics from the ancient world, so I hope there is plenty you can enjoy.
@geneh460Ай бұрын
Finding out that a relaxed at home Stephen has not only a fondness for Hamilton and Bulfinch, but that we share many of the same "fidgets" is somehow comforting.
@craigfairweather3401Ай бұрын
I remember wandering around Thebes in 1990 and being saddened by the modern neglect of ancient stones at that time (lots of rubbish) and encroachment. So thank you for your work people.
@ClassicalWisdomАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! It is wonderful to see the archeological site...but it is hard to see its neglect.
@craigfairweather3401Ай бұрын
Attic speakers sometimes made fun of BOEOTIANS as speaking like cattle ‘mooing’. While Boeotia means ‘Cattle Land’, recently work on the Boeotia dialect shows their more ‘rounded vowels’ which looked to neighbours and sounded slightly like cows’ I)’ large lips and I) the sound of “oo” in “moo”.
@kaloarepo288Ай бұрын
One of the great capitals of ancient Egypt was also called Thebes but I believe there was no connection despite some ancient Greek stories describing close connections between Egyptian figures and Greece. There was merely a similarity between what Egyptians called their city -meaning "the sanctuary" and the name of the city in Greece.
@szeevster5767Ай бұрын
What a wonderful way to spend an hour! Thanks for this.
@ClassicalWisdom26 күн бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
@George1966ismАй бұрын
The muses are worth some discussion. I think that Hesiod is hiding behind those fairies for not being accused of being a heretic. It is not my knowledge but Raoul Schrott who put them in context with Hepat Musuni, a female goddess of water, youth, girls and so on. In this sense, yes, the muses are the metaphors carrying the divine word and meaning to humans.
@andylyon3867Ай бұрын
My name is Lyon, was Leone which can be traced back to the Roman Republic in Italy. Of course we had to of came from Turkey where there where real lions up until 1850. Seriously though we do now know that all farmers came from Asia Minor so the legend has that gem of truth to it
@andylyon3867Ай бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. With the sacred band that they might of been less then full strength as most military units usually are and an even number of bodies seems to still hint at that being their grave.
@KosmiekAltertainmentАй бұрын
Stephen, i am someone who is trying to write something sensible about the world of today with somewhat of a long term perspective, and you have just opened a door i hardly dared to push against. You are an extraordinary man of extreme value, once again. Life on earth would be very different without you.
@Northcountry1926Ай бұрын
We’re in Love … Let’s Share ❗️
@ThomasMcCarthy-mu5ofАй бұрын
It is in my mind said Zeus to create the great and glorious war of Troy and with it the age of bronze clad heroes shall end and the ruthless age of iron begin. Who knows maybe the Eteocles of the Hittite letter of Talaglawas Hittite etowasglas , described as the brother of the king of ahhiyahaw Achaea? Is the self same etocles of myth and Thebes? fragments of memory?
@Steve2WorkАй бұрын
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace. When Medusa was a beauty on the outside, was she a monster inside - perhaps interpreted as filled with all those vicious evils Western womanhood often does; false rape accusations, parental fraud, separating father-children, sexually mutilating the children, killing our babies on whim, .. and when men look at her, they are Blind to the evil monster inside? God Bless., Steve
@dianaalmeida6790Ай бұрын
I really don't understand the hosts push on the gay subject here, specially on the last question at the end, it was extremely forced into a rather organic conversation. Monks not being "gay friendly???" I'm Portuguese with a degree in History-Archaeology, and I guarantee you that this line of questioning in such a specific debate (Thebes) would be very cringe inducing to our scholars. Of course there's room for such debates, the Greek were very ambiguous regarding their sexuality but the way the host "introduced" the topic was so off putting.
@RelivingHistory1Ай бұрын
at what minute does this happen?
@HeronjimАй бұрын
❤❤❤
@DumballaАй бұрын
This was so wonderful. Thank you for sharing. 😊
@shakesrear7850Ай бұрын
Whoever arranged this, thank you. There. Is. Not. enough Stephen Fry in the world.
@ClassicalWisdomАй бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! I was grateful to Mr. Fry that he agreed to speak with me!
@Northcountry1926Ай бұрын
TRUE !
@yasminehaenflein9005Ай бұрын
❤
@baronjohnaАй бұрын
Watching this just after knowing the results of the 2024 US election. What a wonderful conversation. This is the kind of thing I now wish to focus on, the furies not with-standing.
@ClassicalWisdomАй бұрын
The classics are always a wonderful antidote to current events. They really help bring perspective to anything that is going on.