Via Ferrata is NOT for everyone
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@pauledwards1157
@pauledwards1157 5 сағат бұрын
That is sketchy.
@tastenschlager1673
@tastenschlager1673 8 сағат бұрын
This ferrata ist very,very easy with too much steps😂😂😂
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 8 сағат бұрын
Remember, what is easy for you might be difficult for others. On another note, what for me is easy might be impossible for you. It is important to remember that people are not identical and the majority easy or not, if they don't know about it, now they do and this helps more than you can imagine.
@ronaldorojas8219
@ronaldorojas8219 8 сағат бұрын
What via ferrata is that? How was it getting across?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 8 сағат бұрын
Via Ferrata name is Hans Kammerlander. Level E. The bridge crossing? Easy for me because I could reach up. The bottom is quite stable. Now swaying.
@procerator
@procerator 12 сағат бұрын
I would've clipped my via ferrata set into resting system sling to extend it.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 8 сағат бұрын
Interesting proposition. It is first time I have to deal with such thing. Definitely there is solution for edge cases.
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 12 сағат бұрын
No bypass?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 12 сағат бұрын
No. That or call for help. The alternative is to descend 98% of the Via Ferrata because that bridge is right before the end.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 10 сағат бұрын
​@@JetSetYourself, i didn't come this far to only come this far. 😂
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 8 сағат бұрын
I don't know what to say. For this case, better call a friend than to go back
@chrisk7693
@chrisk7693 13 сағат бұрын
Maybe this via ferrata is just for people over 1.90 meters😂😂😂😂
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 13 сағат бұрын
Just when I was getting to the car a group of four were going there worried about that bridge. One of the girls she was just 167 cm of height. She will definitely sweat a bit. Her Via Ferrata Set lanyards will be extended to the maximum (mine were, imagine her). They were speaking about maybe clipping a longer lanyard and her hold her hands on that. I left hence I don't know how they did it. She will definitely have a thrill of a bridge crossing
@RLX5201
@RLX5201 12 сағат бұрын
@@JetSetYourself which via Ferrata is this please?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 8 сағат бұрын
Name of Ferrata is Hans Kammerlander
@markd2834
@markd2834 Күн бұрын
How are you filming yourself on this. It’s very cool
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself Күн бұрын
I was using the backpack mount from Insta360 with the X3 360 camera from them. Maybe I should resume using it now that the climbing mount is out of order for theoment.
@chrisk7693
@chrisk7693 2 күн бұрын
Hi, you asked me if I could share my experience from the via ferrata seminar with you...we had the same bridge as you and the mountain guide let us sit down in the middle of the bridge first and then let us hang in the via ferrata set, then we came to a standstill again using exactly the same technique and method as you and crossed the bridge!was great experience!!!
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself Күн бұрын
This sounds like fun. I was not inspired to ask you to ask them to show you how to recover if the shock absorber deployed and you are now hanging on an overhanging segment with no possibility to leverage the wall but only the lanyard of the shock absorber to get back up. Thank you for sharing the experience Sounds like good practice and I guess you also got to socialise yourself a bit. Me because I record te routes I only climb at times where there is nobody on the rock. This makes it lonely 99% of the times.
@chrisk7693
@chrisk7693 Күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself thx :-) the best is if you do this a few times it get´s easier and easier and to know that you can survive on the bridge makes the via ferrata hobby even more fun and you can really enjoy it!!! by the way to use the resting sling like you did is a very good choice he told us :-)
@michaello258
@michaello258 2 күн бұрын
We climbed Moldoveanu peak the same day you uploaded this video! What a coincidence 😄 I agree with you, It was quite a detox, took us 13h45 to complete it.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself Күн бұрын
14h - I'm impressed. Well done. I could not lower it under 18h including the breaks and lunch. Last year I did it in 16h with no lunch or long breaks. How do you feel after? Me, sad because we had almost no icy snow at Podul Giurgiului. Last year because of the icy snow after 5pm it felt like in the movies. The cold air sparing with the hot sun.
@michaello258
@michaello258 Күн бұрын
@JetSetYourself Yeah, there was only a bit of snow near the lake. Anyway on the way back we got hit by a strong storm and the path was like a river, so it's quite memorable. When we finally did it, it was a huge relieve because 2000m elevation gain is far from easy :)
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself Күн бұрын
@michaello258 uh, I had rain as well but not as bad as you. If that's OK with you for me to point this out. If you did Bâlea Lake - Moldoveanu - Bâlea Lake then you have 2290m elevation gain in total with 26km in total. You did way more than just 2000m 😂💪
@81skydancer
@81skydancer 2 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks a lot
@jotijot6
@jotijot6 2 күн бұрын
Where is this?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 2 күн бұрын
In Longarone Italy next to Vajont dam. Via Ferrata della Memoria is the name of it
@jotijot6
@jotijot6 2 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself thank you :)
@chrisk7693
@chrisk7693 3 күн бұрын
I'm right now at a via ferrata Seminar and tomorrow we learn this how to recover from falling down on the bridge!👍
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 3 күн бұрын
Good luck 🤞 then. Maybe you will let us know how it go. Will be good to find out the perspective of others as well. If you will be allowed to share, of course.
@chrisk7693
@chrisk7693 2 күн бұрын
We had the same bridge as you and the mountain guide let us sit down in the middle of the bridge first and then let us hang in the via ferrata set, then we came to a standstill again using exactly the same technique and method as you and crossed the bridge!💪💪💪
@Lil-yn8si
@Lil-yn8si 3 күн бұрын
I did a ferrata for my first time in Italy it’s like rock climbing and bouldering combined
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 3 күн бұрын
They all are similar disciplines. They share elements with each other. Via Ferrata probably is the most flavoured of all (a mix of everything plus something of itself)
@crosslock1664
@crosslock1664 3 күн бұрын
Again Pisetta ? How did you find it this time ?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 3 күн бұрын
I had to do it. I will explain. How did I find it? Extremely easy. It is difficult but compared to anything else I did recently it felt easy.
@BigyetiTechnologies
@BigyetiTechnologies 3 күн бұрын
That bridge looks the worst part of it with thin weather worn boards
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 3 күн бұрын
Hi. That bridge is extremely safe, short and easy. What makes this Via Ferrata difficult is the overhang right at the beginning of the vertical ascent and then some transitions later, higher up (but they are not that difficult for sure not dangerous as the overhanging section at the start of the vertical). Of course, on the bridge ideally you clip your resting as well to not allow for a fall in case you slip between the thin boards
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 3 күн бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@neo5973
@neo5973 3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 that scream tho
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 5 күн бұрын
The only problem with straight arms is that with standard cable heights it pushes your upper body back such that gravity now has an effect and your fingers and shoulders can get tired.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 5 күн бұрын
I understand what you are saying. But if you flex your arms you will be done fast. You already have to pull yourself up so many times. If you primarily climb this Via Ferrata with arms flexed you will get them pumped and burned lightning fast. But, as you say, with arms extended you shift all pressure on the wrist and fingers. They will slip eventually and that is the moment when you will fall. Hence, the felacy of the resting system. Most will use that as an aid while advancing. The good part? It is mostly diagonals at low angle and horizontal overhangs. If you lose it you will jot fall vertically but slide on the safety steel cable. On the vertical sections under no circumstances one should commit this felacy. There is where the big danger of falling lays because of arms fully extended.
@Yildun28
@Yildun28 7 күн бұрын
I find it interesting that the cables run vertically on via ferratas. Wouldn't it be much safer to an alternated clip one or both lanyards to the bolted ladders as you ascend? No huge fall distance that way.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 3 күн бұрын
I get what you say. Not practical. I can explain why if you want.
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 11 күн бұрын
I hate loosing equipment
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
Initially I start thinking at how much the X4 costs (it is expensive). Then I was telling myself that I have to buy a new one because the X insta360 cameras are very good with great battery. I at a point stopped and looked at the camera in the bushes with regret but I let it go. Then, at the car I checked, I've seen I have all I need to rappel so, I returned and did it. But, my conclusion is that in such cases, is not worth the trouble. Yes, cameras (these cameras) are crazy expensive, still, not worth improvising rappel stations like this for just a camera. Not even curios about rappeling there was I not.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
By the way, how do you go with the go 3s? I'm still testing mine. I see its utility. Let's see how it actually holds. I was checking this morning some car shots. Not that great. Straight driving is OK but when I take turns the image makes your head spin
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 11 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself Hi, still testing mine but seems good for simple vlogging like you do, results are pleasant on the video front sound is good and it's easy to carry but I miss the 360 aspect of the x3 and have not tried photos as yet
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 11 күн бұрын
Ai nevoie de o secretară! Duminică, ma voi intoarce in Baia de Fier. 🧗🏻‍♂️Distracție plăcută și ție!
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
Știi tu pe cineva? Mai lasă și pentru când dau eu pe acolo să urcăm împreună!
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 11 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
Să-mi spui cum a fost! Aici unde sunt acum plouă.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 8 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, la fel s-a întâmplat acolo. Am verificat condițiile meteo si am renunțat.😭 O sugestie pentru un alt clip: rezistenta carabinierelor(rezistență ax mare, rezistență ax mic, rezistență clapetă deschisă). Concret, este diferenta mare între o carabiniera cu o rezistenta mare de 27kn vs alta de 25 kn? Cifrele sunt aleatorii. Mulțumesc! Sper, sa ti sa para interesant subiectul!
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 8 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, distracție plăcută!
@TredasTaurin
@TredasTaurin 11 күн бұрын
Wuuhuu 🫣👍
@sebbosch3863
@sebbosch3863 11 күн бұрын
All strength to you. Thank you for your courage to share. Thank you for your inspiration. Thank you for the lessons. Thank you for helping me help myself. We need more content like this on these type of platforms, educational, Inspiring, delivered in the most caring and honest way without all the narcissistic crap that is out there today. You are a coach on many different levels. Thank you.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, @sebbosch3863. Your words mean a great deal to me. I'm truly honored that you find my content inspiring and helpful. It's feedback like yours that motivates me to continue sharing and teaching with honesty and care. I'm grateful for the opportunity to support and guide you and others. If there's ever anything specific you'd like to see or learn more about, please let me know. Thank you again for your encouragement and support!
@sebbosch3863
@sebbosch3863 11 күн бұрын
You are truly a phenomenal teacher, Thank you for your work.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words, @sebbosch3863! I'm truly grateful for your support and encouragement. It's a pleasure to be able to share my knowledge and help others. If you ever have any questions or need further assistance, feel free to reach out!
@BasilLevski
@BasilLevski 12 күн бұрын
Dear friend, I have watched your videos for a long time now. I am off to salzburg and then innsbruck, are there any must-do via ferratas you would reccomend? looking for a similar spiritual journey ;)
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 12 күн бұрын
Hello friend. Thank you! I need to know your difficulty level limit to be able to recommend something tailored. Also, important is the time you have available. Ideally you will stay away from the turist traps. If you are in the area this weekend or the weekend after maybe you join me and another viewer to the channel and we climb together Renke 2 (most probably we will do it this weekend before I leave Austria and venture deep into Italy, but let's see, nothing is set).
@BasilLevski
@BasilLevski 12 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself thanks for the reply! there are two of us going but we've done lots of climbing and scrambling before. sadly we will only arrive on sunday so will probably miss you, but will be there for two weeks. which ones are the tourist traps worth avoiding? thank you for your reply by the way!!
@faceindisguise85
@faceindisguise85 13 күн бұрын
How do you fall off something with huge handles and a ladder system? More dangerous but only because it's not hard enough to actually fall. You fall off that steel ladder you should probably just stay on the ground.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 12 күн бұрын
Human error is all around us. A bit harsh your comment. Is not about staying home. People should learn to take care of themselves, understand the danger and be wide awake while doing it. The short doesn't speak about falling on this particular Via Ferrata but just an example, today I started to have muscle cramps. If I could not control then while making overhanging transitions I would've fell. I guess a experienced bolder climber dealing daily with overhangs will as you did advise me to stay at home if I cannot do the overhangs ignoring that one factor leading to falls might be muscle cramps.
@georgH
@georgH 14 күн бұрын
As someone that has this happen few months ago, I can totally relate
@georgH
@georgH 14 күн бұрын
Glad you recovered, thank you for the video.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 14 күн бұрын
Still work in progress but getting there. Clearly in a better place now. Obviously it comes at a cost.
@georgH
@georgH 14 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself Same here, I'm still recovering
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 15 күн бұрын
O voi spune in romana pentru a nu se pierde din esenta: daca simti ca locul tau este acolo, inseamna ca esti pe drumul cel bun. Toate cele bune!
@teimursabdullajevs1301
@teimursabdullajevs1301 17 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for all the information that I'm getting from your channel!
@LatoviusFromLaniakea
@LatoviusFromLaniakea 18 күн бұрын
I tried this route today and turned around, too. Was just not in the right headspace today. Its good to listen to your gut, we dont want to fall on VF! But its also good to come back another day and not give up- I will do the same!
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 18 күн бұрын
I hope you now understand the psychological impact when faced with that crossing. If you have strong upper body and are technical and are used to overhangs like this is, easier. But for a first timer or something you don't usually do is the way you've seen. You don't know what to expect and how badly can it get until you don't try it. I'm happy you've stopped by. I hope you overall liked it. Is not a long hard Via Ferrata other than this crossing and the vertical wall to the right but still I think is a place worth stopping and doing it
@LatoviusFromLaniakea
@LatoviusFromLaniakea 18 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself Yeah the only other time a VF has ever gotten in my head was my very first one- definitely not beginner grade, my friend brought me along thinking I'd do fine, which I did.... but it took some guts. Now I'm older and I am blessed to know that I can just come back another day, I have a place nearby I can stay at. I'll give it another go next week I think. The other routes are fine, nothing to write home about, but still good practice ferratas before heading into actual alpine terrain. I like the shorts climbs, being able to go down again, do another route, go down, and so on. Fitness ferrata haha!
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 18 күн бұрын
@LatoviusFromLaniakea maybe I will see you there. Let's see the day you go if and when I make it to Austria
@ShortBreaksCheapEscapes
@ShortBreaksCheapEscapes 18 күн бұрын
Nooobs!, no helmet, no resting sling 🤷🤦🏻‍♂️
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 17 күн бұрын
It is why we are here; help people get into it safer.
@filipkratos3843
@filipkratos3843 18 күн бұрын
Have you (or anyone else) ever seen any Petzl failure because of rain? You are overestimated waterproofness. The only difference is when you directly drop it into the water.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 18 күн бұрын
You should see the rain I was going through yesterday. Now, splash proof or jot, Petz fails as a headlamp in terms of versatility and power. Is not that Black Diamond came with an improved up to date model but at the end the features provided are way superior to Petzl. I used the other day the Petzl just because it sits there for nothing for too long. It is impractical, does lack features, is just splash proof and I have to worry about that on heavy rain fals. If I have to keep climbing for 8h rain fall to get out of the situation I need to not think about the headlamp and focus on survival. But, for your case, go with Petzl without hesitation. No need to look elsewhere if this is what you feel best fits your needs.
@hollydavid69
@hollydavid69 19 күн бұрын
Can you do that on the ladder in the middle?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 19 күн бұрын
Different techniques used for that type of bridge. I will make time to record a video about the case scenarios
@eaglet2000
@eaglet2000 19 күн бұрын
I've been thinking of doing the Tre Cime but I am not an experienced hiker and in my 60s. Your encouragement is giving me the courage to do it. I can walk several km on level ground but find it difficult to climb steep trails. The Tre Cime may be more gentle on steep climbs than other mountain hikes.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 19 күн бұрын
If you go, after parking the car up close to Le Cime (50 euro if I remember well) take the right not the left. On the right is like in the park only slightly inclined here and there. Enough to enjoy the marvel of Le Cime (the look better from the other side) and to train yourself into doing. My advise to you? Do your best to change your situation. The short way to end your presence in this world is to loose all your muscle mass after 60. The more strength you have the longer you will have the chance to live (anything can happen from an age forward but I hope the idea is clear). I have the se advice to a man I met on the mountain (at 2544 m). He told me his ankle is weak. Mine is weak as well but I train the he'll out of it. To make sure it gets stronger and stronger.
@overlordswazy
@overlordswazy 21 күн бұрын
What brand of Hammock? Im in the market for one. Realistically, it be to suspend myself between 2 coconut trees as I do plan to spend a lot of time at the beach this summer (as I live in Hawaii), but hypothetically speaking, if I ever decide to scale El Capitan, I want the peace of mind to know that the brand I got can be good for either worlds.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 19 күн бұрын
They are made by a local company.
@lrfisk
@lrfisk 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for all of your videos! I have a recent trip to Switzerland to try my first via ferrata and your Channel has been incredibly helpful! I appreciate your time making these videos!
@JohnJohn-fm3dx
@JohnJohn-fm3dx 21 күн бұрын
great videos. I just found your channel. One dump question. Are these kind of bridge expected to have this much tension if something happens? Do they decay over time? Are there people to do maintenance or replace them?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 21 күн бұрын
Thank you. The rope diameter used for building the bridges should be enough to gold a baby elefant easily (maybe more). The material usually doesn't rust. Does it lose elasticity? Yes but hard to see with the plain eye. In theory someone checks the Via Ferrata routes form time to time. In practice you never know when if something will fail (many natural factors influence this). Be concerned where you have the safety line cut at both ends. With the safety steel cable of a Via Ferrata you usually are not getting concerned because if the bolt before or ahead gives up the cable will still be hold by the other bolts. On bridges based on what cable might theoretically give up you can be exposed less or more but more than on the Via Ferrata itself. Overall we should trust the route equipment but always be mindful and visually inspect, check and test what goes ahead of us.
@JohnJohn-fm3dx
@JohnJohn-fm3dx 21 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself thank you very much. Ofc one should always keep in mind that anything can fail. I understand that It is highly unlikely for one of the two cables fail and use proper equipment.Didn't knew that it could hold that much weight though 😅
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 21 күн бұрын
Let's say it differently. Any bridge should easily hold 1000kg statically loaded and cope with dynamic loads of at least 400kg (bounce, slightly jump)
@JohnJohn-fm3dx
@JohnJohn-fm3dx 21 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself thank you very much. I find it useful knowing such information
@celulatamil
@celulatamil 22 күн бұрын
how are u mounting the insta360
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 22 күн бұрын
I have both the climbing and backpack mounts from insta360. I mostly use the climbing mount because it provides more flexibility. The backpack mount helps getting steadier shots.
@celulatamil
@celulatamil 22 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself i will check it out. I have hardtime mounting it while hiking especially the downhill videos are shaky
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 22 күн бұрын
@celulatamil it takes a lot of effort to get them steady. The mount only helps with the perspective. It doesn't help with removing movement / shake. For that you have to work hard on the way you move to minimise shaking. Quite hard to do. I'm still working to figuring out the best approach to each situation
@ShevaHiking
@ShevaHiking 23 күн бұрын
I am a 6a+ climber so clearly below the requirements, but I also did a C/D and D/E via ferrata. In terms of danger - via ferrata is definitely more dangerous then sport climbing except trad climbing (and maybe on par with slab climbing). In terms of difficulty I think it is incorrect to compare the two since via ferrata is more about endurance then crimping small holds. But I would say D ferrata is easier then 6a+. I am pretty confident that anyone who can climb 6b would be able to do any E via ferrata.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 22 күн бұрын
Don't be so harsh with yourself. You are up to requirements 😂 If you want to chat more about it and see if it can go somewhere will you please send me an email to JetSetYourself Gmail?
@magmastered
@magmastered 15 күн бұрын
Agree completely on that. I would compare it like this: If during a multi pitch climb I was only secured the same way as on a via ferrata, I would not be comfortable to climbing higher than a 4. At the same time I'm comfortable on D/E via ferrata
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 23 күн бұрын
It's not just the difficulty level but also the distance where your arms can get pumped and without a rest system you could fall, which can be bad even on a traverse where the VF set may not deploy but you are well below the cable and have trouble getting back up to it.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 23 күн бұрын
A man from whom I personally have a lot to learn when it comes to via ferrata, thank you!
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 23 күн бұрын
♥️
@thomaswarford467
@thomaswarford467 23 күн бұрын
Could you attach the prussiks to your shock absorber instead of your belay loop in case the prussiks fails?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 23 күн бұрын
The Prussik on the safety steel cable will for sure fail at any time. Safe to connect to the shock absorber but in this case you will most probably not be able to leverage the Prussik properly.
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 23 күн бұрын
I don't think you can compare sport climbing grades to VF grades as they are 2 different sports, indoors is much safer and can be easier due to the short routes, but also harder at high difficulty level s - poor holds, overhangs, etc. outdoor rock climbing at lower levels like 5a to 5c might be comparable to D-E VF routes but it's hard to say. A roped fall with a good belayer will be much safer than even a short VF fall
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 23 күн бұрын
We should definitely climb together this reminder of the summer
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 19 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself Yes that would be nice although I have not practiced above level D much recently
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 19 күн бұрын
Let's stick to C/D. No need to exagerate. Remember where you were last year. Let's not get back there.
@LatoviusFromLaniakea
@LatoviusFromLaniakea 23 күн бұрын
The OD harness is peak drip 👌👌👌
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 23 күн бұрын
♥️
@Arragon97
@Arragon97 24 күн бұрын
Great idea. But you should divide rock climbing into sport and trad climbing for this. Trad climbing is way more dangerous. In sandstone without metal rock protection even more. There are a lot of no fall zones in saxon or czech sandstone because of that.
@SzilveszterGava
@SzilveszterGava 24 күн бұрын
Agree here, though you could go even further. Free solo and deep water solo is probably the most dangerous, but honestly, jumping into such debats just doesn't make sense. It's like iPhone vs. Android, an endless debate. Both have their own weaknesses and strengths. So does rock climbers and via ferrata climbers. And to be super honest, I mean even bouldering in the gym, you make one wrong fall, hit your head on a volume and there's that. I don't want to scare people away of course, but all forms of rock climbing is dangerous and accidents happen. End of story.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 25 күн бұрын
Every day I learn more and more interesting things from you, thank you! What do you think about the adjustable one?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 25 күн бұрын
Buy what best clicks with your brain. In my opinion the adjustable gets you into trouble. Makes you consume energy unnecessarily.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 25 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, Understand. 👍
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 26 күн бұрын
Maine, urmează sa ajung acolo; m-as bucura daca m-ar ajuta si vremea.😅 Chiar ma intrebam daca exista un grup on-line al pasionatilor de via ferrata(Ro), pasionati care sa-si anunte intentia de a face astfel de trasee, respectiv de a se organiza sa plece împreună in astfel de excursii.
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 26 күн бұрын
Nu există așa ceva. Mâine ajungi acolo? Asta îndemână Sâmbătă vei face trasee? La vremea aceasta din an va fi plin de oameni. O să vezi și corturi pe lângă râu. Te poți socializa cu celelalte grupuri. La final însă ești singur și pe cont propriu. Va trebui să te obișnuiești cu idea. De organizat, greu pentru că nu sunt suficienți pasionați ca să fie așa, ad-hoc. Am întâlnit de-a lungul anilor grupuri organizate mereu de ghizi care fac asta pentru bani sau de cineva pasionat care își aduce prietenii. Niciodată grupuri create ad-hoc.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 26 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, maine-dimineata voi ajunge acolo si tot maine, voi face cateva trasee, singur sau nu; sâmbătă voi lucra... De acele grupuri pe care le-ai enumerat(cele de pe urma carora se castiga bani), am aflat si eu de pe net, dar nu caut asa ceva( incepator nu sunt, detin intregul echipament, masina personala am, deci...).
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 26 күн бұрын
@MonsieurBlue mergi singur. Ai grijă. Baia de Fier are cablurile French style. Cele mai grele și riscante să te accidentezi sunt Amfiteatrul Zmeilor și Spirala Muierilor ca nivel D, toate cele de nivel E. Atenție dacă te încumeți la Mecanicul. Este un D unde dacă va fi să cazi e rău (secțiunea cu inele). Asigură-te că ai brațele odihnit la Mecanicul și că folosești foarte inteligent picioarele. Să ai cu tine o buclă de repaos cu carabinieră de Via Ferrata suficient de lungă să o poți agăța de inele în cazul în care obosești și simți că ești pe cale să pierzi controlul. La Spirala Muierilor înainte de culoar și după este greu. Restul ușor. Dacă după culoar (este un overhang agresiv pe brațe) ești obosit ieși pe Via Ferrata adiacenta. La Saritoarea Ursului ai mare grijă. Dacă va fi să cazi sigur rupi ceva.
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 26 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, îți mulțumesc frumos!
@MonsieurBlue
@MonsieurBlue 25 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself, tocmai ce am venit... Mi-a placut foarte, foarte mult! Ma voi intoarce acolo ori de cate ori voi avea posibilitatea. Imi voi cumpara un sistem de odihna( chiar e indicat!), exact cum ai spus si tu. 👍 Toate cele bune!
@ClimbePl
@ClimbePl 27 күн бұрын
You Are Not Lazy you are practical😊
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 27 күн бұрын
Thank you ♥️
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 28 күн бұрын
Grade C/D +173m doesn't sound that hard?
@JetSetYourself
@JetSetYourself 27 күн бұрын
For you, I and many trained individuals for sure, this is easy. But imagine that Romania has three clusters of Via Ferrata and only a hand full of them in total. This one is one where many first timers arrive. They always make it to the top (if people fall and get injured on a Via Ferrata it means the architect did it wrong, right?) but easy is for sure not. Not for them. They will be afraid, they will feel like losing control, from time to time they will just stretch themselves to make it to the next ring and peg. But yes, as you say by just reading the map it is short and not that hard (except when you climb up and down to install the cameras and back at the car you realise how tired you now are). I climbed this right after pneumonia to see how I go. I almost did not make it. Now, it is easy back again. I've seen people falling at the start of it. I don't see this Via Ferrata as technically challenging or with elements that might put the climber in danger.
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 27 күн бұрын
@@JetSetYourself No one should start on a C/D route
@angrybirder9983
@angrybirder9983 24 күн бұрын
@@ViaFerrataCH C/D is indeed absolutely not for beginners. Maybe for rock climbers that do their first via ferrata, but definitely not for normal beginners. The hardest grade that beginners should ever consider as their first via ferrata is B/C and preferably something where most of the route is easier than that. Oh, and don't ever climb via ferrata on your limit. If you're trying to push your limits, go sport climbing.
@ViaFerrataCH
@ViaFerrataCH 24 күн бұрын
@@angrybirder9983 I tried sport climbing (5a) and didn't enjoy it, but sometimes it's hard to know how difficult a route is going to be until you do it, and usually once you start there's no stopping 😄
@angrybirder9983
@angrybirder9983 24 күн бұрын
@@ViaFerrataCH That remark about "go sport climbing instead" was more aimed at OP.