You should be able to see the barrel issue. It would have to be angled really high to be off that much. I also have a plastic breech model 1377, it's not a design issue. Something is wrong with yours.

Around April 30th it was announced that Compass Diversified was Selling Crosman Corporation to Daisy. We don't know what that means yet. I heard they were moving customer service to Arkansas. No word on what other changes will come yet.

Doesn't say who tested it. The guy that signed the authenticity card Was Daryl Van Why. I need to Chrony it. Will do that once I get back out to do more groups.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 Daryl had tested mine as well I was wrong on the hollow points seems like it was listed Domed Pellets, I am pretty sure they use their most common pellet for the test, I think since yours is a pumper they skipped that part cause of the possible variants

@@charlesoutdoors2424 YT delted my comment , he tested mine too , I think they don't test pumpers fps

@@BackyardDispatcher They listed mine in Meters per second on the print out. Then converted it and wrote wrote 583 FPS beside it. Would be nice if that is a 7.9 grain pellet. That's right at 6 FPE if it is.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 my 2400kt co2 test at 557 so I am going to go with it is a 7.9

Will check into the marauder pistol trigger assembly.

A bit over priced, but the new one I received looks and shoots awesome. The draw to the Pro Sport is the looks with it's hidden underlever giving it a clean look like a tradition rifle. No lever or tank hanging out under the barrel. As far as accuracy I can't say it's more accurate the my HW97k. Some days I shoot one better than the other. The Pro Sport isn't for everyone as it's harder to cock and costs a bit more.

Guess my reply disappeared. Thanks Vin! After watching your video I decided to give a try again. Will make a full video shooting offhand later. Now it looks like I may have to try 150 yards after your last video. I've never pushed a springer that far. Just shooting groups off a rest gets boring. Up until about 9-10 years ago offhand was all I did pretty much. It's as much fun watching the grandkids learn as shooting. This one just needs to take some time to practice more. Then I would have some tough competition. Several years back she went out shooting with her family. They came back bragging about her shooting and how they showed her how to shoot. I just laughed. They know I been teaching her for years, but since we only shoot airguns, They act like it doesn't carry over to firearms. She probably shot better than them with as little trigger time as they get shooting firearms.

I hope someone gets it that likes it after the issue with the compression tube is fixed. It sure wasn't up to my expectations on a 1000.00 springer. The replacement met expectations and then some.

Thanks.

Thanks. Just subbed to your channel. I'm getting back into the old pumpers and such I grew up with.

Thanks.

Them and other bugs sure seem to be. I guess it's like a light at night and their drawn to the white. Like a mini hunt cause you wait for them, they move around and might fly away if your not quick enough.

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If you think about both AA and HW are pretty expensive. Especially when you add in a Walnut stock. Just a good tune kit is closer to 100.00 now. By the time you put just a tuning kit in the HW97K your in the TX200 price range. AA has a bit better fit and finish than HW these days. A little more elegant is probably the right word. HW is now laser etching their name and everything on their guns. It's not really bad. AA looks more like theirs is nicely engraved - Elegant 😆. You can disassemble an Air Arms with just a few simple tools. No spring compressor required, not that I would need to on the Pro Sport, but I may put a little molly paste on the piston some day.

Over priced, for one of the best Springer's in the world, one of the most accurate rifles out there , go and spend £300 on a cheap rifle and see what results you get , you get what you pay for ,

@@phillipsharpe6459it took me about 2 years to finally by a pro sport. I knew when I bought it that it was very expensive, and in my opinion, it’s worth every penny I paid. Accuracy is amazing and for me, nothing like that walnut and AA blued barrel! Beautiful

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Try hot dog bits or hamburger meat 😬

It's a lot more fun that just practicing groups for sure.

How did you do with the Hunter Extreme Pro or the Gen 1 Gamo Magnum? I had no clue how accurate these magnums were until I seem people doing reviews on them. People I've watched shoot doing reviews for years and seen what kind of groups they typically get. I watched them getting all getting way better than normal groups than I expected with the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen2 and had to buy one. Sure enough. I was getting sweet groups at 25 yards with a Magnum that didn't weight 8-9 pounds. That's when I went looking for another in .22 and found the Hunter Extreme Pro with steel barrel and breech. When I got it I was amazed at how good it looked and the quality of the beech stock. Hands down the best value of any air rifle I've bought as I caught it on sale for a little over 200 shipped. I almost bought another. If the .25 goes on sale I may get it too. They no longer make the Extreme pro in .22. I have several videos planned for this rifle showing what groups I get at 25 yards, 50 yards and 100 yards. I also have the Gamo Swarm magnum Gen 2 in .177 I will do the same with. Since we all have a different idea of what precision is I can't really comment on that as everyone has a different option. Myself precision is 5 shots through close to the same hole at 25 yards consistently and at least all 5 through a jagged hole. So far with the magnums I was getting typical dime size groups at 25 yards which means I should be well under 2 inches at 50 yards. As you seen when I tested a few groups in this video I put 4 either almost or under a quarter with a flyer that was on me due to just needing more practice most likely. If I couldn't keep it under 2 inches groups at 50 yards I would find out if it was me, the gun or the wrong pellets. Could be either one or a combination of those. I know both my Gamo Magnums will and my Hatsan Sniper 125 did, but I haven't shot much in the last 6-7 years. Hard to keep enough scopes because I keep buying to many air rifles and have to pull them from my older guns lol, but I'm working on trying to buy more scopes and slow down on the air rifles lol. I do have a Benjamin Trail XL in .25 caliber I don't have sorted out yet, Only getting about quarter size groups at 25 yards. Too many guns and not enough time.

Thanks!

They take getting use too. My first real springer other than a cheap Daisy made in Spain back in the 80's was an RWS 48 sidelever about 15 years ago. Loading underlever or sidelever's becomes more natural after doing it a while, even with my older fat fingers.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 I have a tx 200, so many steps

@@serverlan763 That TX200 is a sweet rifle though. Just heavy like most underlevers. It's one of the few still left on my list of springers.

They sure are! It's gonna stiff competition between the Pro Sport and my Walther LGU. I don't think my HW97K can compete with either of those.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 im wanting to darken down my stock I’ve fed it with linseed oil but it’s not as dark as I’m after, any ideas what else I could use?

@@PiperX1X I have been researching the exact same thing. There's stains, but I didn't want to go that route yet. I have about decided not to really darken mine, but still not sure. I have a BSA R10 mk2 that I've had 8 years with a walnut stock similar to the Pro Sport I been trying to decide on too lol. There is a red walnut stain that I may try on my BSA R10 stock first.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 I’ve have the HW97 in 22 and is a back up rifle for vermin control or if I just want to go back to my roots and to keep my eye in but it hits rats hard but totally different to the pro sport regarding the trigger. Weihrauch’s are renowned for their superb rekord trigger but the pro sport is definitely better in my opinion a lot smoother and crisp than the Weihrauch.

Thanks! They really are and I haven't even added anything to the stock yet. I was out shooting it a little today. It shoots as good as it looks. It has become my favorite for sure.

I agree. It gets even better with a little extra oil finish or wax on the stock.

I've just bought one, partly to take me back to my childhood. I've vowed to never sell it. I've pretty much already passed it down to my Grandson!

Exactly same setup as mine , ace scopes

This one felt rough to cock to begin with. It was extremely dry. I was hoping a little oil would get me through the day. Then I seen something more serious was wrong.

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LOL are you serious?

@@3421958 Did it look like I was worried about accuracy with the issue I had going on? Did I even say I had a problem with accuracy? Unless I drop my gun on the scope I have no issue with turning my gun over on the scope or it affecting accuracy. Now I won't get rough and put to much pressure on the scope if i roll the gun over on it. Putting pressure on either end could damage the scope. Would take a lot of pressure down on the scope between the mounts to affect it, but I still wouldn't recommend it. After doing it for over 15 years without issue, personally, I did find it funny.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 I agree with you. My comment was a response to the guy who said you would lose accuracy by resting the gun on the scope. Which is obviously false.

@@3421958 That was my bad. I thought you was the other guy asking me if I was serious for laughing.

If I could choose only one, it would be the Pro Sport. It's only downside is it's harder to cock until you get use to doing it. The Pro Sport comes factory tuned and has no spring buzz. Pro Sport unless the harder cocking effort is an issue. Have to learn how and where to hold it standing or sitting. Otherwise the TX200hc just because the fish scales cut into the stock looks amazing and it can be torn down easily in minutes to tune it. If I didn't mind spending the money and could find a HW97k 125th edition available for pre-order, and didn't mind the wait that might sway me to the HW97k 125th edition. If I didn't have the Blue HW97K I would have ordered one already. I don't see them listed on the AOA sight so they may be out of pre-orders. Would have to call to see but they are pricey. AOA does have the HW97K in Walnut if you decide to go that route. I love the looks of the Pro Sport and it may be more accurate than my HW97k, or just a bit less hold sensitive.

@charlesoutdoors2424 I was thinking of getting a hw100 pcp for more quietness. There's still 125th anniversary hw97k available in the uk

@@Turki-Alalshikh. I really don't know what your experience level is or what you what type of shooting you do. These underlevers are heavy even at the bench. Unless you really are in to precision shooting, I really like my HW95. I also have a HW50s 125th edition ordered. These guns are just a joy to shoot without the workout. The HW100 is nice and much lighter than the underlevers. They Have the 125th edition in that too that looks awesome. PCP's are easier to shoot, easier to buy scopes for, but stopping and refilling and carrying a tank or compressor around is a bit of a drag. I'm about to start shooting the few PCP's I have again. Ordered a portable compressor to fill them with, going to skip the tank this time.

Thanks! This one looks great and shoots better that expected so far.

How so? I've considered the TX200 for a long time and make get one someday. You can't beat the clean look of the Pro Sport with its hidden underlever. I don't see the TX200 being more accurate or having a better balance. Both can be disassembled easily. The TX200 is easier to cock and has fish scale pattern that looks awesome. It's a little cheaper. What makes it better?

@@charlesoutdoors2424 i just prefer the underlever cocking system over the prosports and i find the txs shoot better

@richardbrooks1488 The Hidden cocking lever is the main selling point that sets it apart from all other underlevers. Not having the cocking arm exposed under the barrel. As shoots better, that debate has been going on since the Pro Sport came out 😆. Accuracy wise, one has no advantage over the other. It's just a matter of preference and price.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 i dont feel like many if any other company’s followed suit and used a similar cocking mechanism

​@@richardbrooks1488 Your right. I believe the Pro Sport came out around 1993 and took like 8 years to get the hidden underlever cocking system worked out. Very few high end spring airguns have changed much in the last 30-50. This leaves the Pro Sport as one of the best looking and shooting springers of all times. It takes the form of a tradition hunting rifle without a cutout for a break barrel or a lever exposed to cock the rifle. It takes more cocking effort, but worth it to those than can handle it without issues. The reason I've wanted the Pro Sport for so long and finally bought one is looks. No other springer looks like the Pro Sport. Absolutely gorgoues with the clean lines without an exposed cocking lever. I have plenty of super accurate springer that will shoot jagged holes at 25 yards if I do my part. None do it better or with more style than the Pro Sport.

Thanks! I will admit I was a little nervous opening the box, but Air Arms lived up to my expectations on this one.

Thanks, I'm trying to tell myself I don't want a TX200. I have 4 nice underlevers now, But I've always liked those fish scales on the stock. Such a nice looking airgun. The AA Diablo's make sense, Their re-branded JSB's the same as these FX's I'm shooting. I've never tried the QYS pellets.

At times yes, the wind make kick up a bit and i have to start over. Other times I have to relax and wait on the wind to reset. If I actually tried aiming for that long my eye's would go blurry and couldn't see lol. Instead I wait until I think the wind is right, aim and shoot before it starts back. How's your groups with a magnum springer at 50 yards? There's a lot of people that will tell you the groups I just shot aren't possible with a magnum springer or a spring gun period for that matter. With a bit of practice my goal is 5 shots under a quarter at 50 years with a magnum springer.

@charlesoutdoors2424 I agree I'm not trying to be disrespectful my friend I'm just stating a point.

@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln It's all good. Just pointing out that there's a difference between sitting and waiting for the wind to be right and actually aiming at a target for too long. Normally I'm on target and shoot in under 2 seconds with a good trigger. In the video you can't really tell when I'm aiming and when I waiting. Sometimes I sit so long with the gun on the bag I have to edit out all the waiting because a 5 shout group could take 15-20 minutes with the wind we've had lately.

I haven't done anything to the stock yet. It could look darker at times due to the lighting, but I believe the video captures it pretty close to true color. That and I also made adjustments in editing to make sure it wasn't darker or lighten than it is. The Hawke medium rings had the scope scope close the A/O ring would rub so I kept them for another gun and ordered some really nice UTG PRO rings for it. Still Medium's because they are listed to work with a 40mm scope and these do. Not sure what was up with the Hawke rings. It's a SFP scope. I found them on sale again from the same place and ordered another. Then they raised the price up again lol. I'm not sure if I would like the reticle being larger when on 12 or 16 power as happens with a FFP scope so I'm not to worried about getting one.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 Rad, so the medium rings worked. I didn’t realize the Hawke is only 40mm. My Athlon is 44mm, it’s probably why I ended up with high rings. Time to do a head to head video, UK vs German springers 😬 My personal bias will be towards the PS 😁

@@AGDavid This Airmax is the one inch tube instead of the 33mm. It keeps the weight down on these heavy underlevers. I think the next one is going on my HW95 Walnut. The Walnut stocks are lighter than beech also. The Pro Sport may be my favorite. I hate to speak too soon since I've only shoot it for 2-3 hours, most that waiting on the wind to die down.

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It really didn't look good in person and I don't think adding oil to it would help. I did oil that area a little as it was dry and also looked like it still had fine saw dust on it. As seen in the video, that was the least of the problem and it went. I've had a new one that looks awesome for about a week now. What I would expect from Air Arms and a gun the cost a 1k.

I have had an HW97k with the pretty blue stock for about 8 years. I did get my 2nd Pro Sport in and it's a keeper for sure. I also have an HW95N and an HW50S 125th edition on order so I'm a big fan of Weihrauch. But the Pro Sport might be my favorite underlever now.

There's different levels of fussy. You mean like only one pellet that will shoot a one jagged hole group at say 25 yards or is it more dime to quarter size groups.

I hit groups of half inch with the air arms deabolo field.

Mine performs best with either Air Arms Diabolo Field or Cometa Exact pellets, both made by JSB.