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@gabyinoz3868 Сағат бұрын
WOW! The expression "The Joy of experience" is amazing. I'd never heard it put that way before. That really blew open a portal for me. Thank You!
@rebeccadysievick3125 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this wisdom. I am very grateful
@lizeisman6001 14 сағат бұрын
Flowing- thank you, Pernille!!❤
@gabyinoz3868 22 сағат бұрын
You explain everything with such clarity and do not miss a loophole. I had so many Aha's in watching this. Thank you!
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 22 сағат бұрын
@@gabyinoz3868 I am so happy to hear that. Thank you 🙏
@gabyinoz3868 22 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 20 сағат бұрын
Uh wow thank you so much, Gaby! I truly appreciate that! Thank you!
@gabyinoz3868 20 сағат бұрын
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum Thank YOU! I'm so grateful for your generous and beautiful offerings. They are a huge gift. ❤
@andrewodonnell7126 Күн бұрын
Love it!
@Mimi-xs7gi Күн бұрын
Contractions in the body….peroid‼️ Love this❣️
@ptanji 2 күн бұрын
It’s like breathing a healthy dose of oxygen these videos are.
@christianemichelberger8245 2 күн бұрын
Having guided in the Buddhist framework of the 10 fetters for 8 years, I have to disagree on the point that reactivity can happen when somebody is successfully beyond the fetters. To me, the lady who felt that has an excellent BS meter. In the face of different interpretations, let's return to what the creator of the fetter framework, the historical Buddha said. The fetters are most clearly expressed in his definition of the different awakening stages. 1. Streamenterer = the fetters #1-3 have fallen away (personality view/self-illusion, doubt, clinging to rites and rituals). 2. Once-Returner = the fetters #4/5 are weakened (desire and ill will/aversion). 3. Non-Returner = the fetters #4/5 are fully gone. 4. Arahant/conqueror = the fetters 6-10 have fallen away. There is no source that supports that the fetters 4/5 would come back once somebody has conquered all fetters or that someone cycles through the stages forward and backwards. There is also no source in the Pali Canon that says we wouldn't experience hurt or other uncomfortable feelings. The difference after the state of a non-returner is that reactivity is gone without trying to not react. It simply doesn't arise any longer. The Buddha defined the Arahant stage as Nibbana with residues. The residues would only be left behind with the death of the body and its 5 senses. He also explicitly states that it is the extinction of attachment, hate, and delusion that is called Nibbana with residues. So clearly, there should be no reactivity any longer. "“What, bhikkhus, is the Nibbāna-element with residue left? Here a bhikkhu is an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed, the holy life fulfilled, who has done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained the goal, destroyed the fetters of being, completely released through final knowledge. However, his five sense faculties remain unimpaired, by which he still experiences what is agreeable and disagreeable and feels pleasure and pain. It is the extinction of attachment, hate, and delusion in him that is called the Nibbāna-element with residue left." (iti 44) Of course, everybody is free to use the fetter framework as they see fit, it's then just no longer the framework of the Buddha and should maybe have a different name.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 2 күн бұрын
Hello, Christiane, Thank you for watching. I think you might have misunderstood what we were saying regarding still being reactive after awakening. We have tried to make it very clear in dozens of videos that reactivity ends after 4 and 5 have been seen through and dropped. This talk was actually about how we cannot judge people, compare, or know the experience of another. But it was never intended to come across sounding as though people could actually drop all of the fetters and still be reactive or carrying attachments. That would be a complete contradiction, and simply impossible. It’s also not meant to condone behavior or unjustified statements made by teachers. This is only to point to our own tendencies to project outward. We have spoken so frequently about 4 and 5, and how there can be no reactivity after working with them, that it was not specifically addressed here. We didn’t mean for it to lead to any confusion. However, regarding the “continued hurt or uncomfortable feelings” that you mentioned, we do find that the emotional underpinnings that lead to the primary sensation (which would have once led to reactivity) can also be addressed and worked through. In our formulation of the fetters, we address it in Fetter 2, which makes it much easier to work with 4/5 when it comes time to investigate them. Complicating matters, the suttas are explicit about how the dropping of fetters will result in future rebirths, but do not discuss how to go about weakening or breaking the fetters, or what a life without fetters even looks like. (Aside from saying things like that there is no desire…) We have never found any references that specifically state that the fetters need to be worked through linearly. (Other more modern teachings we’ve come across have also pointed to the necessity of becoming aware of all of them from the beginning, as they are all hindrances to our practice.) It’s only that the stages of Once-Returner, etc. only occur when the relevant fetters have been seen through. Which doesn’t indicate that they cannot all be addressed at the same time, or that insights can’t weaken or break multiple of them at once. The other thing which we find a relevant distinction, is that the fetters as we are all interpreting them, tend to describe experiences that many people have on their Awakening journey, regardless of which path they are following. Of course it’s not universal to everyone, but there are striking similarities, especially around Fetters 1, 4-6, and 8. Consequently, the Buddhist formulation of rebirth might not be relevant to them, but the road map of possible experiences that they might discover for themselves, is extremely helpful. We are cognizant to not lock anyone in to using this framework in a specific way. In our experience of working with people, their paths tend not to be completely linear, which you have also referenced in the past. Instead of using the terms “leading edge” and “trailing edge”, we just discuss it as a wheel that reflects that you can have insights in some fetters, but still be stuck in others. And until those related issues stop arising, there is something more to be investigated. I hope that helps to clarify. Again, we’re sorry for any misunderstandings or confusion. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@selyoks 2 күн бұрын
This is wonderful stuff. No starting point.
@cheriemiller669 2 күн бұрын
Thank you❤
@ved7490 2 күн бұрын
I am somewhat surprised to find how many "invisible" crutches I have been leaning upon without the slightest realisation/insight. It is easier to work with an emotion or some physical sensation as I am finding these subtle beliefs come with nothing one can sense - like a thought about an "invisible thought" ❤
@gabyinoz3868 3 күн бұрын
Wow. This is so clear and direct. The humor and lightness is a breath of fresh air. Add me to the other comments which consider you and your work a big blessing.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 3 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! <3
@sonofnature610 3 күн бұрын
I NEED a mug like that! 🤭❤
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 3 күн бұрын
Hahaha yeah, we got so many ideas for merchandise. If we at any point suddenly get into consumerism we will start a line.
@gabyinoz3868 4 күн бұрын
This is amazing. The clarity and loving directness is palpable. At first, I accidentally wrote "palatable". I MEANT palpable but it is tasty, too!😀 Looking forward to delving into all you are sharing. Thank You!
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 4 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you so much Gaby. Happy to have you here. Do you know about our Discord community? We have a Hive-Mind in there where people like you are doing the curriculum so you can seek support and help if you would need it. Let me know if you want to join and I will post you the link. It expires so I will wait until I hear back from you. Much love
@gabyinoz3868 4 күн бұрын
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum And thank YOU! I'm binging on all your youtubes even as I write.😃 I just joined the "members" group. Is that the same thing? Much love back at you. In deep appreciation for what you are radiating out!
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 4 күн бұрын
@@gabyinoz3868 Hahaha I love your enthusiasm! Thank you for becoming a member as well. What I meant was the Discord group. You will find it here: discord.gg/JpNpSkWH (remember the link expires) Take a look around in there and reach out to the others if you need any help with anything. Let me know how you get on.
@gabyinoz3868 4 күн бұрын
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum I'm "in"! Thank you!💜
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 3 күн бұрын
@@gabyinoz3868 So happy to hear that <3
@lizeisman6001 5 күн бұрын
I love hearing this again! I always get more and more. ❤
@oolala53 5 күн бұрын
Sounds like a fairytale.
@kimberlytrent5245 5 күн бұрын
What is the word fetter mean in this context?
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 5 күн бұрын
The 10 fetters is a Buddhist conceptual framework where we look into the 10 different ways we identify with topics that makes our life immensely difficult. You can read about them here theawakeningcurriculum.com/firststeps and then do the curriculum that dissolves all 10 and leads to awakening. Let me know how you get on.
@kimberlytrent5245 14 сағат бұрын
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum thank you
@perhagman6112 5 күн бұрын
Mind fart 🙂
@ptanji 6 күн бұрын
Wow! This is very thorough and nuanced. The part about how experience is influenced by how much s person is acquainted with these ideas (the soil has been prepared).... or something like that. Always something new here. Thank you
@undercoverinnormal 7 күн бұрын
You're so right. I'm a jerk 🤣
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 6 күн бұрын
Hahahaha
@johnpienta4200 7 күн бұрын
This is beautiful. It's like grasping at straws to find something I want in the moment. They arise sometimes, but it's apparent they are just mental talk. There really doesn't seem to be any kind of bodily sensation or yearning associated with them.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 6 күн бұрын
Love it!
@catherinehealy8410 8 күн бұрын
Years ago early 2000's approximately I read Eckhart's book the Power of Now but was totally unaware of Awakening. I did some meditation and mindfulness on and off due to health problems. Then between 2010 and 2013 I had an experience where everything I mean everything disappeared all there was was light and my awareness my body was gone. I was so so afraid I thought I had gone mad, lost my mind. I never told anyone for years as I could not explain it but looking back WOW I kept quite about it and continued with family life.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 4 күн бұрын
I am so sorry you had to go through that alone. How has it settled itself in you now? Are you more comfortable with it? And how is it experienced today? Do you know about our Discord channel? I think it might be good for you to connect with others and see that you are not alone.
@catherinehealy8410 4 күн бұрын
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum thank you I am good now. I experience an awakening February 2023 which was lovely, calm beautiful exciting this time I knew I had a shift which was confirmed by Chris and Angelo. I have done your fetter model, which is fabulous and incredible work, up to the eight and now I have started them all again. Thank you so much for all the work from you and Todd.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 3 күн бұрын
@@catherinehealy8410 Oh I am happy to hear that <3 Well, if you at any point want to join the community just let me or Todd know and we can forward you the link. I am happy you are here.
@leskenaz 8 күн бұрын
Of all the courageous, challenging and potentially controversial episodes in the awakening curriculum this is the best IMO. This topic is not for the faint of heart; to question our most precious and deeply held notions and call out belief for what is, belief. In our society there are no-touch topics and belief in God, Source, Awareness and Consciousness is one of them. Once it was pointed out to me there was panic and a sense of free fall which accompanied the release of all the landing places and certainty which belief in oneness and a higher power contain. It is impossible to describe what lays ‘on the other side.’
@ptanji 6 күн бұрын
Yes. Such a surprise, both grand and subtle.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 3 күн бұрын
Love that comment so much! Thank you Leela!
@j.r.operhall6473 8 күн бұрын
WoW!! This video holds great significance. Great job.
@Mimi-xs7gi 8 күн бұрын
Good one👌
@monikakrall3922 9 күн бұрын
The only sure thing in life is change, which is constant😊🌈
@demogadget 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the series.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 9 күн бұрын
Glad you like them! ❤
@tyvrymch 9 күн бұрын
57:09 ❤
@tyvrymch 9 күн бұрын
56:01 ❤
@tyvrymch 9 күн бұрын
53:01 ❤
@tyvrymch 9 күн бұрын
This is sooo helpful to me. Tysvm.
@ChenathWanniarachchi 9 күн бұрын
Maybe this is for later.
@ved7490 9 күн бұрын
All the guidance you give us is filled with such humility & wisdom in this mysterious soup as human BEING! So appreciated ❤
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 9 күн бұрын
Thank you so much <3
@sonofnature610 10 күн бұрын
I can clearly see a natural movement between starting from the aggressive bully in my teens/early twenties, when I also was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and then after having the realization that I am not my thoughts and the following self-awarness of what was going on in my thoughts, there seems to have been a natural shift to a passive-aggressive bully. Is that a thing? 😅 I also see that a lot of the issues you are pointing to with the passive-aggressive has naturally fallen away with being aware of these tendencies over many years, though I'm not completely there with some. Its nice to have this framework to understand myself better. It makes it easier to have "self"-compassion. I appreciate you ❤
@georgesonm1774 11 күн бұрын
Just relating to your initial statement about thoughts - how do I approach or treat a type of thought which does, in fact, label a certain emotion correctly; or when there's an 'insight', or something (speech) which sounds like truth (about a person, yes, but perhaps true in the relative sense, in the sense of deep honesty - as deep as one can go and as honest as one can be) - the reason I'm asking is that ultimately these kinds of insight also show up as thoughts. BTW I'm asking from a perspective of someone who has years of therapy behind me, so I'm aware that there might be both benefits of that (as in: ease in pointing out inaccuracies in thinking/assuming; in dismantling certain defense mechanisms and articulating / expressing certain internal states, emotions, phenomena relating to the supposed personal 'I' but quite often useful when dealing with life of relationships, goals etc.) but also, I presume, a reinforced belief in the "I" who is the subject and the container of all these. Perhaps a deeper question is - in your experience, is it even possible for such a person to ultimately see through this belief in the self, is fetter work something that does work for such ppl, and is the notion that the thought might be a medium for something valuable, such as a 'deeper insight' entirely incorrect (or is it perhaps only the perspective of lower fetters where the focus is specifically on detaching the sense of self from thoughts?) thank you in advance for an answer
@georgesonm1774 10 күн бұрын
Ok, after watching the podcast I'll just say - it partly answered some of the questions, I tend to let the mind get before me a lot :) as a newcomer to this I can only say that I'm loving this Fetters model, as even the general overview has already shown me more less where I'm at and where most of the work needs to be put. I've been lacking this kind of guidance for years now. Thank you for all your work 🙏
@n-xsta 11 күн бұрын
20:13 thank you! Life is really validating as I’ve recently witnessed a rage incident which became physically violent in an instant over nothing! It has been challenging dealing with the sense of vulnerability, thoughts etc however there is a powerful sense of being held or supported p.s also autistic 🥰
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 11 күн бұрын
I am happy you are here.
@Sashas-mom 11 күн бұрын
You two are amazing. I have to listen over and over so it’s a good thing you are kind and gentle. This is heavy stuff. Also ♥️ Pernilla you are stunning in this particular sitting. Anyway, thank you both for all you do.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. Yeah it is so helpful when we sit together and guide. It goes so much deeper. Thank you for your kind words <3
@michaelhodgeofficial 12 күн бұрын
I deeply appreciate that you organized this call, Pernille. It’s awesome to hear about the first fetter dropping in various ways.
@monikakrall3922 12 күн бұрын
Well, you two, are very economically sitting on that big sofa😅👩❤️👨
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 11 күн бұрын
Hahahaha yeah, I know! Super cosy, though...
@monikakrall3922 12 күн бұрын
For the unconscious people which is still the majority, anything out of the usual programming is strange.....I am neurodiverse and I talk honestly, not emotionally ...I am not social, so I am emotional and loving with my cats, with animals....with humans be my dad or a stranger I talk equally logically....so ppl sometimes think I hate my dad and prefer them, then later get upset because it turned out I am not really interested in them either....I am interested in the information, the learning.....also I feel and act like an androgene person, so yes, as mentioned in the q and a, women expected to be feminine, emotional, and stupid😅...some men instantly talking a bit down with a woman or like it was a flirt situation...well, plenty of occasion to practice awareness, centering😊
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 11 күн бұрын
I know. There are simply different rules that apply when neurodiversity is in the mix. We do experience and express differently. I have found that being open about my Aspergers has created a community of so many neurodiverse people. I am happy you are here.
@HP-is-here 13 күн бұрын
Watched this so many times before but this morning, got hit with a yucky-feeling (but totally obvious) realization about my mother, me, and my daughter… really it’s all about me, but now the pieces are clearer 🙈🤣🙏🏼
@TheAwakeningCurriculum 12 күн бұрын
Oh wow! That is such amazing insight! Love it! Thank you so much for stopping by and commenting. LOVE IT!
@michaelhodgeofficial 13 күн бұрын
“See you in 10 years.” 😂 so direct, I love it