Every single comic review video says that everyone is ‘out of stories’ and there’s ‘no good stories’….. so why the hell doesn’t anyone just take story idea submissions??
@SHIELD-dk5od14 күн бұрын
hello, I have not watched this video, but I would like to ask, dark horse accepts proposals from an individual author (author) and this publishing house to provide the rest of the staff such as an illustrator to finish this comic
@creatorowned85112 күн бұрын
@@SHIELD-dk5od they do not accept author only submissions. They take art samples or artist/writer team submissions.
@volver98716 күн бұрын
Question about the Logline. I am making a comic that has two parts to the story. One in the past, and one in the present. Do you think it will be okay to do an A and B Logline to keep it from being confusing?
@creatorowned85115 күн бұрын
@@volver987 if those two things intersect I would include it. If it’s just two separate stories like on story and a prequel just pitch the first part maybe. I’d look at similar stories to what you’re writing (for example IT or Yellowjackets where they balance two timelines between the same characters) to see how others refer to the kind of story you are trying to tell.
@volver98715 күн бұрын
@@creatorowned851 Ok thank you! Ill have to rack my brain for a similar stories. Cant think of one off the top of my head.
@vellamattfilms20 күн бұрын
At 11:22 when you talk about costs such as printing, distribution, marketing, etc….would a publisher (like Image or Dark Horse) take on some of those costs? PS: just found your channel -!: J love the videos, I’ve binged about 5+ in a row!!
@creatorowned85119 күн бұрын
@@vellamattfilms from what I’ve heard you pay the publishing fee through Image, not sure how it works with smaller publishers
@creatorowned85119 күн бұрын
@@vellamattfilms also thank you for watching, much appreciated!
@vellamattfilms19 күн бұрын
@@creatorowned851 interesting. Thanks!
@boreddude7322 күн бұрын
I use Superscript to write. It's purpose built for comics. I used to use Final Draft but the comic templates always frustrated me and seemed to break. It hasn't been updated in while but it's a single dev and he has mentioned in an email to me it's not a dead project. I've written off Final Draft after their recent Final Draft 13 update which was a joke, asking for $100 for the ability to put emojis in text. Definitely recommend Superscript.
@federicodallocchio4924 күн бұрын
great explanation. You could do the sequel about how much to expect to recover and what is the publisher's policy regarding payment (during, after, never...) :D
@creatorowned85124 күн бұрын
@@federicodallocchio49 something I hope to know from experience eventually.
@BrianLCS24 күн бұрын
Just finished my first comic book project that i wrote. It was successfully funded on Kickstarter, but wow what a learning experience. I kept it to 16 pages of art to keep the cost down.
@creatorowned85124 күн бұрын
@@BrianLCS that’s amazing! It’s not easy even for something as modest as this 16 pages. Congratulations
@MrHazz11124 күн бұрын
Time, sweat and tears! That being said, I'm an illustrator who's been very keen on making comics but didn't have many storytelling chops, so I teamed up with an author friend of mine to get a graphic novel project done- entirely for free! Since it belongs to both of us, we are trying to publish it together. That could be another way to get around the cost thing, befriend an artist who is interested in trying their hand at comics, try to make a story with one of their characters. But it has to be a collaboration, they cannot be working for you nor you for them, you have to work together. I understand this might be rare and difficult to do something like this but those are my two cents.
@creatorowned85124 күн бұрын
@@MrHazz111 I love hearing that this was an avenue that worked for you both. It’s true this is an area I didn’t event cover. It’s just a rare one. Many go looking for a “collaborator” but I have learned in my own experience that rarely works for a number of reasons, not only that the artist may become unmotivated but because there are so many other hurdles to figure out you as a writer don’t want to leave your collaborator hanging. But super cool you guys accomplished this!
@ivanmartinez49828 күн бұрын
hi my best friend and i have been working on a comic together for close to 10 years. we are finally ready to pitch it to these bigger companies. we imagine it being done in 3 acts and there is a lot of story to it. my main question is should we pitch just the first act of the story to them or all three acts? this would be at the very least 200 pages worth of issues because we have every chapter planned out
@creatorowned85127 күн бұрын
@@ivanmartinez498 you would want to let them know what the entire length of the story will be, but it makes sense to clarify it will be in 3 parts. However a trade is typically approximately 168 pages (28 pages x 6 issues) so you might be closer having one volume in total
@ivanmartinez49827 күн бұрын
@@creatorowned851 sorry i mean to say that we have 200 chapters/issues planned and they specify that in the outline we make sure it is a page per issue. would this be too much?
@creatorowned85124 күн бұрын
@@ivanmartinez498 that’s an ambitious run, though I’ve estimated my own comic could go on about 150 issues if it makes it that far. Even the walking dead only made it 193 issues. I would pitch the idea broadly, and what aspects of the narrative the first volume (6 issues) achieves and just say it will be an “on-going book.” ANYTHING can happen between issues 1 and 200. The book might simply not sell well and get canceled. You want to make sure the publisher knows you have a strategy to hit milestones that are achievable and won’t leave you or the reader in a bad place if things suddenly stop on the project.
@creatorowned85124 күн бұрын
For context Robert Kirkman famously claimed regularly TWD would go “at least 300 issues” he claimed he would do the project forever and easily could have. 1 issue is 1 month of your life. 200 issues is something 16 years
@michaelmunster9074Ай бұрын
I'm making a comic and also post it to webtoons. Ive been thinking about going to image once im done, but i dont know if my comic looks professional enough for that. Im learning and growing though with is encouraging. Any thoughts?
@creatorowned851Ай бұрын
Doing your work in smaller increments like this while you can still gain experience and build a following is definitely the right approach. Image might not accept the book but there’s plenty of smaller publishers out there as well. Having something complete is the easiest way to get it collected and published in a traditional format however. Basically if you have the time to keep doing it on your own, just do it at your pace. There’s a great page called C Cassandra, she does short 4 panel comics on social media but I believe she worked out a book deal with Scholastic, so it’s very much possible that shorts and stories will get noticed if you’re doing good work and being consistent
@michaelmunster9074Ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 Thanks, I appreciate the help. I've been doing it on my own time after work. I have 118 pages done and I'm thinking it will probably be about 220 pages. It's a dinosaur, fantasy, horror comic so definitely have to be a publisher that's okay with some gore.
@creatorowned851Ай бұрын
@@michaelmunster9074 I love the fact that dinosaur is part of it, sounds like my kind of comic! The important thing to remember is not every creative project has to exceed our greatest expectations. Let it be part of the journey
@AiRbaL2000Ай бұрын
I've drawn and rendered 18 pages of my pitch. Do you recommend I submit all pages or just the best 5 or 6?
@creatorowned851Ай бұрын
Send the exact amount of pages they request
@AiRbaL2000Ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 so just 5 for Image? Got it.
@ShamanTiersАй бұрын
Darkhorse is barely an indie publisher 90 percent of their annual sales is manga, they're predominantly known for selling license comics like aliens, buffy and previously star wars. The indie stuff makes up a small small small fraction of what they really put out and what really sells, Unless your stuff is just ground breaking or a movie script turnt into a comic you problem won't hear back from them.
@creatorowned851Ай бұрын
This is true, “Indie” being used as a broad term to basically refer to anything outside of the big two, it’s about as indie as sub pop records lol. I’d like to do a follow up video covering smaller publications like Vault and Mad Cave
@ShamanTiersАй бұрын
Image is not indie anymore they mainly only accept dc and marvel alumni their like a retirement home for already established artist to make indie works. submitting to them cold turkey is pointless they most likely won't respond. Also you have to pay upfront for printing cost out of your own pocket no other company is like that.
@MeekandMeАй бұрын
Where would you recommend?
@ShamanTiers28 күн бұрын
@@MeekandMeTry titancomics or dark horse through dark horse is pretty bad right now. I would say idw but they’re on their last leg only being held up by their tmnt license and they don’t pay there creators on time. Another is antarctic press.
@ivanmartinez49828 күн бұрын
that is wild i was not aware of that fact. so they use your idea and make you pay the printing cost and then also pocket some of the money what’s the point of going with them ?
@MeekandMe28 күн бұрын
@@ShamanTiers you sound like you’re either in the industry or adjacent. Thank you for the advice, I’ll probably apply to them all cause once the demo is finished why not? All the work was in making it so sending it out too as many as possible makes the most sense to me. What do you think?
@ShamanTiers26 күн бұрын
@@ivanmartinez498 Submitting to image is more of a brand thing, if people see your comic with the image logo in the corner it may potentially boost sales since image is a popular recognizable company that's the only difference but it's not a guarantee it'll actually make a difference in sells if you submit it to them compared to a different company.
@jennysoapdish4502Ай бұрын
Do you recommend Kickstarter or Indiegogo for comics with ADULT CONTENT?
@creatorowned851Ай бұрын
I don’t have much context for indiegogos platform or its user base, Kickstarter seems to have its fair share of adult comics being created on the platform however
@lowlowseesee2 ай бұрын
Solid advice 🥇🥇🥇🥇
@Rtombooksart2 ай бұрын
Ive been planning to pitch and this has veen helpful, but i had a doubt, just last day i read that you have to pay for the costs like printing and stuff huge amounts like 5-10 grand IF image decides to publish and what you're essentially getting is the brand on your book and ... Niw i understand that they don't pay page rates..and a lot of the profit depends on your book success Is this trye or is there like different contracta for each..?
@Ratchetcomand2 ай бұрын
This video needs more likes.
@creatorowned8512 ай бұрын
That’s very nice of you, and I agree wholeheartedly!
@Balisticcomicsllc2 ай бұрын
Great content!
@derrickthomas47672 ай бұрын
I am in the process of doing a submission to Image Comics and this video helped to alleviate a lot of my worries. Thank you so much!
@creatorowned8512 ай бұрын
Good luck and just remember that even if you don’t hear back you should try and make it happen anyway, perseverance is key
@Plebeian3982 ай бұрын
I'd love to speak to you about a comic series of my own.
@LearnComicsWithPancake2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your analysis on this, I enjoyed you pointing out certain things from a writer point of view. :)
@creatorowned8512 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I hope it was helpful, I have another one planned for a different book where I think I get a little more granular which I am looking forward to.
@LearnComicsWithPancake2 ай бұрын
@creatorowned851 I'd love that! As someone who has never wrote anything but wants to create comics I've always wanted deep dive into the writing of comics. So I'll be on the look out! 😊
@nrgentertainmentartist86682 ай бұрын
Hey you're doing a great job with these videos, they are very informative and motivational! Keep'em coming! :)
@creatorowned8512 ай бұрын
Thanks, new vid just dropped this morning!
@BonniePelton2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you mentions BxW .. and IC being cream of the crop .. will defiantly start smaller
@creatorowned8512 ай бұрын
Good luck! 🤘
@RisenPhoenix683 ай бұрын
Don't get into comic books.
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
No one said it would be a LOT of money 😂
@madbug19653 ай бұрын
Does Image still require you to pay for the printing costs and Image will handle the distribution? Back in the 90's a friend of mine did a creator owned book but he had to pay for all the printing costs...
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
My impression is that they print and distribute and take a cut of the profits but honestly it wouldn’t be too surprising at least if that’s how it was, that is not totally unlike the way the record industry works, which is basically a label fronts you a loan and you have to earn it back
@MannySimoneCards3 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on other successful indie comic cretors other than Kirkman? Or is he just an outlier? I need more hope!!😅
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Haha I could there are PLENTY of successful indie creators, Kirkman is just perhaps the more notable “modern” success.
@MannySimoneCards3 ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 Ok thnak you!
@MannySimoneCards3 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@vermontmike98003 ай бұрын
Can someone use kickstarter to fund a project in an already established franchise, but not be affiliated with that franchise? Example- if a writer wants to create a pitch packet which would include the synopsis, manuscript and sample art work. But what if the writer isn’t an artist himself and needs the funds to hire an artist to create 6 pages of finished work.
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
I would be surprised if no one has at least attempted to fund something like a “Spider-Man fan film” on Kickstarter. To be blunt: NO ONE accepts unsolicited pitches like this (whether comic publishers, film studios, etc) for them it is a legal liability and kind of a taboo, they’ve heard it all before anyway. If you’re going to embark on something I would advise doing your own original work so you have full creative ownership of it and aren’t in a legal grey area of what you can or cannot do with it. For example: Watchmen by Alan Moore could have easily been a property he owned all the rights to, he suggested it to DC using characters like Vision and Blue Beetle, he just “re-skinned” them to be Rorschach and Nite Owl. Similarly tv shows like Critical Role are creating their proprietary Dagger Heart module so they are not under any legal obligation to Dungeons and Dragons which they base all of their characters on.
@vermontmike98003 ай бұрын
Are you saying that a page should be limited to 35 words or do you mean 35 words per panel?
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
35 words per panel is the max that is recommended
@vermontmike98003 ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 awesome, thanks for the clarification.
@vermontmike98003 ай бұрын
Who’s the artist of your example at 18:31?
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
@bugracomic on Instagram
@steviemckinney71453 ай бұрын
😅 'Promosm'
@vermontmike98003 ай бұрын
So basically Dark Horse will not accept manuscripts that include illustrator directions, is that correct? That eliminates many writers unfortunately. Do any comic book publishers accepted writer-only manuscript submissions.
@Turn-the-Page3 ай бұрын
Good tips, man! Thank you for the video!
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Always! Let me know if there are any topics you’d like to see addressed soon
@Turn-the-Page3 ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 glad you asked! I have been searching for the best ways to advertise my comics. How to do it through social media without being slaved by the algorithm? What about printing on-demand options? I could go with the questions forever, man, but I believe that is a good start.
@CRUCIFi7773 ай бұрын
Don’t forget street/carnival/amusement park portrait busking 😆
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
“Caricatures in the New York City subway should be your PRIMARY means of income!”
@juanclunac3 ай бұрын
Love this video topic! Thanks :3
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, hope it was helpful!
@coinopanimator3 ай бұрын
Wow! I'm first. Last time I was first my girlfriend slapped me.
@NBSS28093 ай бұрын
I have a story but I don't have an artist, can I still pitch the idea
@WarLore3 ай бұрын
Look at that shit, the algorithm found this one. Fuck yeah
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Hahahaha yes this one has performed particularly well 😅
@Turn-the-Page3 ай бұрын
Please, keep doing this!
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Hey thank you, I appreciate it!
@Turn-the-Page3 ай бұрын
Hi, Robbie. Thank you for this video! My question is about Marketing de comics. In case Image or Dark Horse accept my submission, would they help with promoting the book in any way?
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
My assumption is yes, I was just reading an image comic that had a bunch of quotes from press so they must have a PR person. This is something I will have to research!
@Turn-the-Page3 ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 thank you for the answer! Maybe a video about the comparison between self-publishing and submission to a publisher would be interesting for the channel. Keep up the good work, man! Cheers!
@cosmiccry66753 ай бұрын
Image Central will NEVER even get back about your pitch if you are a no name writer / artist! They only work with high profile names in the biz. So Image this days is only for DC and MARVEL creatives to do side projects. Sucks, but this is the truth! Just look at the names who publish at images for the last 20 years and you can see image is NOT for YOU! It for the Snyders nd Hickmans and Capullos out there. For YOU it is better to do crowdfunding with one completed book!
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
That’s more or less my advice: plan on doing your book with or without Image. If you have a completed book it is POSSIBLE they will pick it up, but if you’re not willing to go the distance then yes your chances are likely near zero. Image and Dark Horse fortunately still maintain an open door policy. BOOM! And DSTLRY are creator owned publishers but you’d had to have some kind of agent or following to be considered by those other outlets.
@landofthesilverpath58233 ай бұрын
Nice video! You're working on a project currently, correct? Can you tell us a little about it?
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
I definitely plan to share more about my project in the future, but once it’s closer to that phase. I have been leaving Easter eggs in some of my recent videos however ;)
@jackmcentee3 ай бұрын
You're great at breaking this information down. I'm subscribing to follow your journey! I've had writing a comic in the back of my head for years and the information feels very scattered. If you have the time/experience/knowledge I'd love to know about finding an artist as a writer. Where to go to see examples of work, how to approach payment, etc. From what I've read paying upfront per page is a necessity (which is totally valid, I live with a digital artist and know how much artists get screwed over) but then how do you negotiate revenue share and such? If I got paid $1500 for an issue that holds millions of copies I'd be pretty upset. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Keep it up!
@creatorowned8513 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! These are all things I am looking to address. In an upcoming video I mention how most of this is “work for hire / gig economy stuff.” IMO you should pay 50% upfront 50% upon completion so no one gets burned. Even then it can be tough. Some artists are not super concerned with the “what happens next” phase (because it rarely does generate profit) but yeah as a writer you are often the one putting all the investment in which to me means you should get the lions share of the revenue. I’ll do a little more research on this.
@jackmcentee3 ай бұрын
@@creatorowned851 No problem! Looking forward to what you find