True. I love Fates, it has my favourite gameplay in the series, especially in Conquest. But the story, man... it's so disappointing especially when you think about what could've been had IntSys actually taken it more seriously or had more time. Or better yet both. I mean, you can tell how much more it could've been because the story can actually make you feel things, such as with Elise and Xander's deaths in Birthright or Ryoma's death in Conquest, and the scene near the ending of Revelation with both kingdoms' royals together. I wish we could've had more of that; more emotion throughout the rest of the game, because they were absolutely capable of doing that.

Party Crashers

Corrin received _way_ more hate than they deserved IMO. Yes, they're not perfect, and there are a few too many characters dedicated solely to them. But when people say that they're a Mary Sue or a flawless and annoying character, I disagree. Their vice is naïveté; they're completely ignorant in the ways of the world. They look for the best in everything, even if it's not there. While this innately isn't a bad thing, the game makes it clear on multiple points how foolish their original outlook on life is, and by the end of the game, they're more realistic and jaded, but without losing their innate hopefulness and positivity. I think that's a pretty decent character arc TBH.

just say you're miserable

This song is what I think of when the little dragon gets killed in either game. I know it's tied to Elise story wise, but it's clearly a symbol of death and the following grief. If you read the early game dialogue with Lilith you'll know why I find her death particularly tragic.

The stories are all over the place and conquest butchers Xanders character. They never went into detail about the concubine wars which is integral to camillas character. Hoshino was completely in the right, there was no real morally gray thing

@@theed805 Like I said, there was limited time. People were expecting 3 fully-fleshed out storylines with no loose-ends. Unrealistic expectations when the game boasts 3 different paths to choose from. If it had the time and capability to elaborate on every character's backstory and every important history in time, it probably would. "Hoshido was completely in the right, there was no real morally gray thing" For us, obviously. Any normal person with a brain would be able to deduct that Nohr is the aggressor in the story- but from the POVs of the characters, Nohrians believe they are justified in their invasion until they begin to question King Garon's actions. Nobody really lists this as a valid criticism of the game, because it's very clearly implied through-and-through lol.

@jadduck you make a point. I guess I'm just coping because I really really think this game could of been better then 3 houses, if it swapped places. I just really love this game man and it really really could of been something 10 times better

They advertise it like you're fixing the evil inside nohr, instead it feels like you're helping hitler until the second to last chapter