GCR Chesterfield Loop fly-through
7:49
GCR Sheffield to Heath fly-through
10:59
GCR Heath to Nottingham fly-through
12:23
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@colinsuffolk9161
@colinsuffolk9161 Күн бұрын
I’m a big Great Central Railway fan. I am from Loughborough now. but born in Leicesterin 1953 just behind the Great Central Railway Station in Leicester watching this just told me we add HS 2 already built by Edward Watkins. The 1900s it was going go through the channel to Europe. I’ve not seen this video before fantastic really enjoyed it. What a shame this line closed by MP politicians. For transport they haven’t got a clue about the future. Many thanks, Colin.
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 4 күн бұрын
Now that sure is one EX railway!
@Mister-Pip
@Mister-Pip 11 күн бұрын
Great visualisation. The best part of this route is playable on train sim world. Peak forest route. It's stunning.
@michealpercy1741
@michealpercy1741 19 күн бұрын
I remember the goods trains running along there, the level crossing in Glenfield & Ratby and also Newbridge Crossing (Ben's Hut) near to Desford Junction where they were two crossings close together and the fireman getting out & walking across the field to open them both. Happy Days.
@johnharrison3489
@johnharrison3489 29 күн бұрын
Brilliant video and maybe someone can help with a question that my uncle and I have been trying to clarify for years. @Thebigfella53 - you are right, the tunnel went under the Uppingham Road / Colchester Road junction and was a cut and cover tunnel. It was locally known as 'Black Bridge' as it was very deep. When I was a little boy, I lived on Withcote Avenue and I remember crossing the remains of the footbridge adjacent to the tunnel from Uppingham Road to Jennett Close. The cutting was simply filled in leaving the arches of the footbridge visible. Today it is merely an alleyway but you are in fact still crossing a footbridge. I was reliably informed a child fell from the parapet of Black Bridge onto the track below around 1972/3 and survived. My uncle and I are trying to find a photo of this tunnel with zero success. It's become a bit of a mission for us now to solve but trying to trace anyone with knowledge or photographs is proving difficult. Any help would be appreciated.
@g8ymw
@g8ymw Ай бұрын
I used to live at the East End of Long Clawson and could see the track in the distance Saw plenty of trains just North of Clawson Tunnel (Well Hose Tunnel but that was what it was known as locally) 4:57 That diverging off the right of the track was the site of Stathern Sidings A narrow gauge line came from the top of the hills to exchange iron ore to standard gauge wagons (cable worked incline)
@brakecompo2005
@brakecompo2005 Ай бұрын
Thanks for producing this very interesting video.
@DrMJT
@DrMJT Ай бұрын
The old GCR was an extremely Bendy Wendy railway! The vast majority of bends are in open Fields where the line could have/should have been built straight. There is Absolutely NO WAY a EC Gauge train, even with tilting tech could every travel at more than a Maximum speed of 200kph and only on short sections. I remember Many NIMBY HS2 peasant folk who ALL claimed it would be better to rebuild/reopen the GCR. It could never ever have a train travel at 350 to 400+kph on Any section of the Grand Central Bendy Wendy!
@66oggy
@66oggy Ай бұрын
Thankfully this line will never open as it would be too expensive initially, and far too expensive to maintain. The Monsal Trail is arguably the most beautiful trail in the country. On a different note I would argue the section between Buxton and Bakewell was probably, for it's length, the most expensive length of line to construct in the country.
@edwardbyard6540
@edwardbyard6540 Ай бұрын
I'm afraid the chance of this line reopening is nearly zero. The Monsal Trail is a massive economic asset to the Peak District and were it under threat, railway enthusiasts have said they would want to keep it accessible as it is now. Those who aren't local wouldn't understand. It is the second most visited part of the PDNP, I believe. I'd love to see the line reopen but I'm afraid it won't happen - not when public finances are so bad, either!
@swp12
@swp12 Ай бұрын
Well put together. It would be good to see the old York-Beverley line resurrected in this way and perhaps the Beverley to Malton via Driffield??
@KEVIN-x2t7y
@KEVIN-x2t7y Ай бұрын
Would have a good route for HS2
@edwardbyard6540
@edwardbyard6540 Ай бұрын
Far too winding and narrow, and through a national park. Really bad route!
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 2 ай бұрын
Well that was certainly easier than last month's walk up the snowdon ranger path.
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
We're preparing a series on the Welsh narrow gauge railways. Coming soon: Ffestiniog Railway
@RichardFraser-y9t
@RichardFraser-y9t 2 ай бұрын
Cool video but an incorrect title, Brackley not Bracknell.
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, correcting now!
@johnspurgeon9083
@johnspurgeon9083 2 ай бұрын
Even where HS2 and the GC take the same alignment north of Calvert, HS2 keeps one or two hundred yards away from it. I wonder if this is due to the fact that virtually the whole of the GC formation there is under wood or scrubland. I imagine that naturalists would descry such habitat destruction.
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 2 ай бұрын
Gone Completely.....or is it?
@a.jamesstretton3813
@a.jamesstretton3813 2 ай бұрын
We've just spent two days on the Ashby Canal. Magical. Pity about the absence of decent (by which I mean good food and real ale) along the route. As temperatures rise. Who on earth wants to 50 degree Spain & Greece where you can't even go outside safely Spend your holiday dollars in UK, and purchase a cagoule I'd love to see this canal extension built. How many billions are being spent (wasted?!) On HS2? Today it's all about the profit. People don't come into it
@roverchap
@roverchap 2 ай бұрын
To reopen this would no doubt be feasible. It would be one of the most picturesque railway journeys and provide a useful direct connection between the North West and the East Midlands, relieving the Hope Valley line and connecting many towns and villages with Manchester and Derby, and beyond.
@thenottinghamnutter
@thenottinghamnutter 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE your "Ghost Train" videos... Can you do one of this route?
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, but they're not mine. The creator is www.youtube.com/@ghosttrainlostrailways
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
... but I agree, their videos are something special!
@lordgemini2376
@lordgemini2376 2 ай бұрын
So much of the route/tracks still exist. Currently, the only bit without tracks is between the 3:50 and 5:30 mark in this video. This could be reopened and reconnect the North West and the East Midlands by rail, easing congestion/capacity issues elsewhere on the rail network!
@nigelsutton8957
@nigelsutton8957 2 ай бұрын
Considering how much of the GCR London Extension remains, built to the continenal loading gauge, was it not considered for use as HS2? Surely would have been cheaper than building on new land?
@roberthoward3723
@roberthoward3723 2 ай бұрын
Incredible thanks for the ride
@batman51
@batman51 2 ай бұрын
Whilst I have always regretted the closure of this route it was clearly expensive to maintain with so many tunnels and viaducts.
@michaelstewart3532
@michaelstewart3532 2 ай бұрын
Yep. It's blown my mind that. I moved up to Carlisle from Derby 17 years ago and engineering wise it gave the Settle Line a run for it's money
@darleytransportandtravel6353
@darleytransportandtravel6353 2 ай бұрын
It's absolutely brilliant, but just imagine someone having the time and patience to make this on train simulator.
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't know where to start, but I imagine it's hellishly difficult. Judging from your channel, you have the skill set. Do you fancy having a go at any part of this line?
@darleytransportandtravel6353
@darleytransportandtravel6353 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. When I started with route building on Train Simulator, I had intended just to rebuild the Leeds New Line. One thing led to another, and I started to add more and more of the closed West Riding railways. I haven't put most of these onto KZbin as yet because I need a new computer with a faster processor. If I were to live to be about 200, I would love to attempt more closed lines further from home.
@johnspurgeon9083
@johnspurgeon9083 2 ай бұрын
​Although it is far from your part of the woods (it seems), one line worth considering is Exeter to Padstow (ACE).
@tridentmusic5570
@tridentmusic5570 2 ай бұрын
GET IT RE-OPENED !!! So little missing. How can they moan about HS2 and leave THIS route un-used ??? All the WCML bottle-necks neatly avoided.
@shahedmc9656
@shahedmc9656 2 ай бұрын
Great work!
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the accolade!
@andrewtaylor5984
@andrewtaylor5984 2 ай бұрын
The line was not even listed in the Beeching Report. Of course, it was carrying practically all the London to Manchester traffic at the time. Apparently, the cost of keeping Dove Holes Tunnel free of water was one factor leading to the line's closure. (But did the longer tunnels at Disley, Cowburn, and Totley not have similar problems?) Absolutely staggering to see a once busy Heaton Mersey reduced to nothing.(I gather that a motorway now covers most of the shed site.) Cheadle Heath station seems to have gone completely; it was once served by Pullmans.
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
I stayed at Crowden Youth Hostel in 1980. The valley echoed to the rattle of frequent electric-hauled freight trains. It seemed like there were 3 to 5 trains an hour in each direction, coal, tanker and container trains. Yet the line closed completely the following year. I can't help wondering what happened to all that freight... M62? Surely not.
@kevinfowkes2327
@kevinfowkes2327 2 ай бұрын
The majority of the traffic was coal, and for a couple of years it was diverted, mostly northwards via Healey Mills then down to Manchester via Stalybridge. But within a few years a great deal of this traffic had disappeared due to the miners strike, pit closures, steelworks closures, and British Coal localising supply of coal to power stations reducing the need for it to cross the Pennines. I'd guess that today, the vast majority of the freight traffic that went via Woodhead just doesn't exist any more, either on rail or road.
@rwm2986
@rwm2986 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, another excellent video. I do like the way that at least the clock tower was preserved at Nottingham Victoria.
@shaunearley6088
@shaunearley6088 2 ай бұрын
Too fast
@jordanlinton480
@jordanlinton480 2 ай бұрын
gorgeous couple days out on a bike!
@steelheadplayer
@steelheadplayer 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, couple of place names spelled incorrectly though.
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
Oh no, really? Wardsley Bridge and ....?
@steelheadplayer
@steelheadplayer 2 ай бұрын
@@flymuzza9205 Oughtibridge
@davem7293
@davem7293 2 ай бұрын
Again, absolutely brilliant.
@owenpavey
@owenpavey 2 ай бұрын
5 mins 30 seconds.Exact moment the flight goes over my permanent camping tent where the GCR crosses over the former LD & ECR at Arkwright Town.The removal of the overbridge span in 1973,and the burying of the short Springwood Tunnel beneath farmers fields is the reason why the Transpennine Trail does not link up with the Five Pits trail at the former Heath Railway Station. Music was okay,nice pace to it matching the speed of the flight though i would have prefered something classical 😊
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating background info, many thanks
@shahedmc9656
@shahedmc9656 2 ай бұрын
Great piece of work. It appears most of the trackbed is still there.
@nickbergquist6222
@nickbergquist6222 2 ай бұрын
I think you will find that most of the trackbed of the GCR mainline has been removed beyond recognition, as though it never existed, from Nottingham to Sheffield. The formation has been lost.
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 2 ай бұрын
Why the GC was closed is beggars belief. The line went through several major cities and would have been very useful now.
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 2 ай бұрын
With hindsight being a wonderful thing... probably a lack of foresight! I maybe wrong but I think there was a boundary change in 1958 and the GC went from the Eastern Region to the Midland Region... and, correct me if I am wrong, the Midland Region wanted rid of it!
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewholloway231Yes and the Beeching report was ripe on route duplication too.
@BlackAndDeckerBoy
@BlackAndDeckerBoy 2 ай бұрын
Falling freight traffic and passengers were not what they are today with long distance commuting. Parallel alternatives routes existed and are still open. M1 & M6 taking traffic away from the railways. No crystal ball available on globalisation, climate emergencies and mass migration
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 2 ай бұрын
What do you think of the soundtrack? If too many people find it irritating, it can easily be removed!
@evanhenton3381
@evanhenton3381 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s fine
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 2 ай бұрын
It’s fine
@ogo2l
@ogo2l 2 ай бұрын
I could do without it. Still a very interesting Video, many thanks. Maybe a bit slower next time.
@owencarlstrand1945
@owencarlstrand1945 2 ай бұрын
I could do without the music but a brilliant video.
@rwm2986
@rwm2986 2 ай бұрын
OK for me!
@davepoole9520
@davepoole9520 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Amazing. Was all of this once railway track? Amazing to see how far apart the stations on the Metropolitan line are in the suburbs and even more amazing to see the distance between Quainton and Amersham which the Metropolitan once did cover.
@jhuc2869
@jhuc2869 3 ай бұрын
These disused railway lines wouldn’t have been wasted if they’d been kept intact as cycle routes.
@catomacro8325
@catomacro8325 3 ай бұрын
No I get this is just a simulation but the route simply is not accurate. You can't get a train from Nottingham to London and travel to Marylebone via Aylesbury, Amersham etc There is no train that takes this route
@alric8
@alric8 3 ай бұрын
No need to rub it in Dr Beeching 😢😢😢
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 3 ай бұрын
Are you serious? The GCR was a historical route to London which closed in the 1960's.
@catomacro8325
@catomacro8325 2 ай бұрын
@@flymuzza9205 100 per cent I'm serious. I can tell you with absolute certainty you cannot get a train from Nottingham to London that goes via the Aylesbury to Marylebone Chiltern/ Metropolitan line If you don't believe me take a look at trains from Marylebone to Aylesbury and see where the train terminates I know this because I' travel part of this route all the time
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 29 күн бұрын
@@alric8 what's beeching got to do with it
@GrrMeister
@GrrMeister 3 ай бұрын
*This was really a HST Route many miles at 150 MPH Plus and 90 mph on the Curves - and don't forget Continental Loading Gauge so would have allowed Double Carriages' !*
@radders261
@radders261 3 ай бұрын
Bloody brilliant!
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 3 ай бұрын
thank you for this...great to finally see this route
@MattF340
@MattF340 3 ай бұрын
Seems madness that so much engineering and human labour was wasted building this line, or more accurately the act of closing it wholesale.
@shahedmc9656
@shahedmc9656 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic work, thanks!
@markblackford7271
@markblackford7271 3 ай бұрын
I guess it is via Peterborough now?
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 3 ай бұрын
The current route is via Leicester and Kettering - the former Midland main line, operated by East Midlands Railways
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 3 ай бұрын
I was trying to see Broughton Astley on here but either I missed it or it didn't show up...Might it be at 2:24?
@flymuzza9205
@flymuzza9205 3 ай бұрын
The nearest point to Broughton Astley on the GCR would have been 2 miles away at Ashby Magna. Broughton Astley had a station on the Midland Counties line, 1840-1962, an entirely separate disused railway which also linked Leicester and Rugby, so your confusion is quite understandable! I've traced that line in kzbin.info/www/bejne/joDFgaKKbraSpqM
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 3 ай бұрын
@@flymuzza9205 Many thanks for that and for taking the time to find the line🙂
@johnspurgeon9083
@johnspurgeon9083 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant! The next best thing to a cabride. And taken before too much evidence of HS2. In places it is clear to see the huge land take, in order to provide gentle earthwork gradients, which are now swathes of woodland.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't an express train from Nottingham have gone via Grendon Underwood and Ashendon Junctions and then via High Wycombe to Marylebone rather than via Aylesbury?
@JM-kr1tj
@JM-kr1tj 3 ай бұрын
If you look at working timetables (the GCR Society has some, and so does the National Archive), you'll find that almost all GCR line expresses went via Aylesbury. In 1928 (the only one I can remember right off the top of my head) the only "express" that went via Wycombe was the Marylebone-Mansfield service, which was the least prestigious express you could imagine.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 3 ай бұрын
@@JM-kr1tj That's interesting. What was the point of the GCR investing in the joint line with the GWR then? Wasn't it to avoid having to share with the Metropolitan north of Amersham? The Met still served Verney Junction until 1936 and Aylesbury until 1961. Please show some respect for Mansfield (Central), please - I grew up in the town!
@mollydog5226
@mollydog5226 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant work