Fascinating, thank you. I grew up in Evington and as kids we used to explore the fields around Thurnby. My dad's family often went by train along this line to the east coast for factory week - later known as factory fortnight but before the war they only got one week off.
@andrewb115218 күн бұрын
Brilliantly done - excellent view of the route. I see from the comments that the 'continental loading guage' myth persists (though of course it would be easier to re-engineer a closed line for this than build entirely new).
@lorisarvenduАй бұрын
Excellent!
@lorisarvendu2 ай бұрын
Best.GCR.Video.Ever. Awesome, and shows that there are a lot of old sections left. Impressed with your drone's batteries too! ;)
@loom59812 ай бұрын
Thank you for this it’s hard trying to see where the track went when most if not all of it has been torn up
@fredericksaxton39913 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that, I kept stopping to confer with Bing maps to view the surrounding area.
@brianwillson95673 ай бұрын
M&GN a useful weapon against the Great Eastern. Much less relevant after grouping GN+GE, of next to no use after nationalisation. BUT if only we had it today!
@brianwillson95673 ай бұрын
Just thinking, perhaps you should have retraced your steps and climaxed 1812 with film of norton viaduct being blown up!
@brianwillson95673 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Living in Harborough, i found it very interesting. I so wish i could have travelled the line, but, being such an early closure i would have needed a time machine. At least i have walked John o gaunt viaduct several times. A pity about east norton, the key hole arch of the viaduct nestling in the valley made it a very attractive sight.
@MyJon643 ай бұрын
The disused line was my childhood play area back in the early 70's 🙂🙂
@colinsuffolk91613 ай бұрын
I’m a big Great Central Railway fan. I am from Loughborough now. but born in Leicesterin 1953 just behind the Great Central Railway Station in Leicester watching this just told me we add HS 2 already built by Edward Watkins. The 1900s it was going go through the channel to Europe. I’ve not seen this video before fantastic really enjoyed it. What a shame this line closed by MP politicians. For transport they haven’t got a clue about the future. Many thanks, Colin.
@fredericksaxton39913 ай бұрын
The Great Central Railway was built to Continental Loading Gauge, what ever that means. Seems a great shame to have shut most of it down.
@brianwillson95673 ай бұрын
Now that sure is one EX railway!
@Mister-Pip3 ай бұрын
Great visualisation. The best part of this route is playable on train sim world. Peak forest route. It's stunning.
@michealpercy17414 ай бұрын
I remember the goods trains running along there, the level crossing in Glenfield & Ratby and also Newbridge Crossing (Ben's Hut) near to Desford Junction where they were two crossings close together and the fireman getting out & walking across the field to open them both. Happy Days.
@johnharrison34894 ай бұрын
Brilliant video and maybe someone can help with a question that my uncle and I have been trying to clarify for years. @Thebigfella53 - you are right, the tunnel went under the Uppingham Road / Colchester Road junction and was a cut and cover tunnel. It was locally known as 'Black Bridge' as it was very deep. When I was a little boy, I lived on Withcote Avenue and I remember crossing the remains of the footbridge adjacent to the tunnel from Uppingham Road to Jennett Close. The cutting was simply filled in leaving the arches of the footbridge visible. Today it is merely an alleyway but you are in fact still crossing a footbridge. I was reliably informed a child fell from the parapet of Black Bridge onto the track below around 1972/3 and survived. My uncle and I are trying to find a photo of this tunnel with zero success. It's become a bit of a mission for us now to solve but trying to trace anyone with knowledge or photographs is proving difficult. Any help would be appreciated.
@g8ymw4 ай бұрын
I used to live at the East End of Long Clawson and could see the track in the distance Saw plenty of trains just North of Clawson Tunnel (Well Hose Tunnel but that was what it was known as locally) 4:57 That diverging off the right of the track was the site of Stathern Sidings A narrow gauge line came from the top of the hills to exchange iron ore to standard gauge wagons (cable worked incline)
@brakecompo20054 ай бұрын
Thanks for producing this very interesting video.
@DrMJT4 ай бұрын
The old GCR was an extremely Bendy Wendy railway! The vast majority of bends are in open Fields where the line could have/should have been built straight. There is Absolutely NO WAY a EC Gauge train, even with tilting tech could every travel at more than a Maximum speed of 200kph and only on short sections. I remember Many NIMBY HS2 peasant folk who ALL claimed it would be better to rebuild/reopen the GCR. It could never ever have a train travel at 350 to 400+kph on Any section of the Grand Central Bendy Wendy!
@66oggy5 ай бұрын
Thankfully this line will never open as it would be too expensive initially, and far too expensive to maintain. The Monsal Trail is arguably the most beautiful trail in the country. On a different note I would argue the section between Buxton and Bakewell was probably, for it's length, the most expensive length of line to construct in the country.
@edwardbyard65405 ай бұрын
I'm afraid the chance of this line reopening is nearly zero. The Monsal Trail is a massive economic asset to the Peak District and were it under threat, railway enthusiasts have said they would want to keep it accessible as it is now. Those who aren't local wouldn't understand. It is the second most visited part of the PDNP, I believe. I'd love to see the line reopen but I'm afraid it won't happen - not when public finances are so bad, either!
@swp125 ай бұрын
Well put together. It would be good to see the old York-Beverley line resurrected in this way and perhaps the Beverley to Malton via Driffield??
@KEVIN-x2t7y5 ай бұрын
Would have a good route for HS2
@edwardbyard65405 ай бұрын
Far too winding and narrow, and through a national park. Really bad route!
@brianwillson95675 ай бұрын
Well that was certainly easier than last month's walk up the snowdon ranger path.
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
We're preparing a series on the Welsh narrow gauge railways. Coming soon: Ffestiniog Railway
@RichardFraser-y9t5 ай бұрын
Cool video but an incorrect title, Brackley not Bracknell.
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
Thanks, correcting now!
@johnspurgeon90835 ай бұрын
Even where HS2 and the GC take the same alignment north of Calvert, HS2 keeps one or two hundred yards away from it. I wonder if this is due to the fact that virtually the whole of the GC formation there is under wood or scrubland. I imagine that naturalists would descry such habitat destruction.
@brianwillson95675 ай бұрын
Gone Completely.....or is it?
@a.jamesstretton38135 ай бұрын
We've just spent two days on the Ashby Canal. Magical. Pity about the absence of decent (by which I mean good food and real ale) along the route. As temperatures rise. Who on earth wants to 50 degree Spain & Greece where you can't even go outside safely Spend your holiday dollars in UK, and purchase a cagoule I'd love to see this canal extension built. How many billions are being spent (wasted?!) On HS2? Today it's all about the profit. People don't come into it
@roverchap5 ай бұрын
To reopen this would no doubt be feasible. It would be one of the most picturesque railway journeys and provide a useful direct connection between the North West and the East Midlands, relieving the Hope Valley line and connecting many towns and villages with Manchester and Derby, and beyond.
@thenottinghamnutter5 ай бұрын
I LOVE your "Ghost Train" videos... Can you do one of this route?
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
Thanks, but they're not mine. The creator is www.youtube.com/@ghosttrainlostrailways
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
... but I agree, their videos are something special!
@lordgemini23765 ай бұрын
So much of the route/tracks still exist. Currently, the only bit without tracks is between the 3:50 and 5:30 mark in this video. This could be reopened and reconnect the North West and the East Midlands by rail, easing congestion/capacity issues elsewhere on the rail network!
@nigelsutton89575 ай бұрын
Considering how much of the GCR London Extension remains, built to the continenal loading gauge, was it not considered for use as HS2? Surely would have been cheaper than building on new land?
@brandonprince329728 күн бұрын
Imagine if the channel tunnel and a line connecting it to the north had been built to continental loading gauge, and used for international freight. You might have seen that mythical economic growth they now dream about.
@roberthoward37235 ай бұрын
Incredible thanks for the ride
@batman515 ай бұрын
Whilst I have always regretted the closure of this route it was clearly expensive to maintain with so many tunnels and viaducts.
@michaelstewart35325 ай бұрын
Yep. It's blown my mind that. I moved up to Carlisle from Derby 17 years ago and engineering wise it gave the Settle Line a run for it's money
@darleytransportandtravel63535 ай бұрын
It's absolutely brilliant, but just imagine someone having the time and patience to make this on train simulator.
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
I wouldn't know where to start, but I imagine it's hellishly difficult. Judging from your channel, you have the skill set. Do you fancy having a go at any part of this line?
@darleytransportandtravel63535 ай бұрын
Thank you. When I started with route building on Train Simulator, I had intended just to rebuild the Leeds New Line. One thing led to another, and I started to add more and more of the closed West Riding railways. I haven't put most of these onto KZbin as yet because I need a new computer with a faster processor. If I were to live to be about 200, I would love to attempt more closed lines further from home.
@johnspurgeon90835 ай бұрын
Although it is far from your part of the woods (it seems), one line worth considering is Exeter to Padstow (ACE).
@tridentmusic55705 ай бұрын
GET IT RE-OPENED !!! So little missing. How can they moan about HS2 and leave THIS route un-used ??? All the WCML bottle-necks neatly avoided.
@shahedmc96565 ай бұрын
Great work!
@flymuzza92055 ай бұрын
Thanks for the accolade!
@andrewtaylor59845 ай бұрын
The line was not even listed in the Beeching Report. Of course, it was carrying practically all the London to Manchester traffic at the time. Apparently, the cost of keeping Dove Holes Tunnel free of water was one factor leading to the line's closure. (But did the longer tunnels at Disley, Cowburn, and Totley not have similar problems?) Absolutely staggering to see a once busy Heaton Mersey reduced to nothing.(I gather that a motorway now covers most of the shed site.) Cheadle Heath station seems to have gone completely; it was once served by Pullmans.
@flymuzza92056 ай бұрын
I stayed at Crowden Youth Hostel in 1980. The valley echoed to the rattle of frequent electric-hauled freight trains. It seemed like there were 3 to 5 trains an hour in each direction, coal, tanker and container trains. Yet the line closed completely the following year. I can't help wondering what happened to all that freight... M62? Surely not.
@kevinfowkes23275 ай бұрын
The majority of the traffic was coal, and for a couple of years it was diverted, mostly northwards via Healey Mills then down to Manchester via Stalybridge. But within a few years a great deal of this traffic had disappeared due to the miners strike, pit closures, steelworks closures, and British Coal localising supply of coal to power stations reducing the need for it to cross the Pennines. I'd guess that today, the vast majority of the freight traffic that went via Woodhead just doesn't exist any more, either on rail or road.
@rwm29866 ай бұрын
Thanks, another excellent video. I do like the way that at least the clock tower was preserved at Nottingham Victoria.
@shaunearley60886 ай бұрын
Too fast
@jordanlinton4806 ай бұрын
gorgeous couple days out on a bike!
@steelheadplayer6 ай бұрын
Interesting, couple of place names spelled incorrectly though.
@flymuzza92056 ай бұрын
Oh no, really? Wardsley Bridge and ....?
@steelheadplayer6 ай бұрын
@@flymuzza9205 Oughtibridge
@davem72936 ай бұрын
Again, absolutely brilliant.
@owenpavey6 ай бұрын
5 mins 30 seconds.Exact moment the flight goes over my permanent camping tent where the GCR crosses over the former LD & ECR at Arkwright Town.The removal of the overbridge span in 1973,and the burying of the short Springwood Tunnel beneath farmers fields is the reason why the Transpennine Trail does not link up with the Five Pits trail at the former Heath Railway Station. Music was okay,nice pace to it matching the speed of the flight though i would have prefered something classical 😊
@flymuzza92056 ай бұрын
Fascinating background info, many thanks
@shahedmc96566 ай бұрын
Great piece of work. It appears most of the trackbed is still there.
@nickbergquist62226 ай бұрын
I think you will find that most of the trackbed of the GCR mainline has been removed beyond recognition, as though it never existed, from Nottingham to Sheffield. The formation has been lost.
@EM-yk1dw6 ай бұрын
Why the GC was closed is beggars belief. The line went through several major cities and would have been very useful now.
@andrewholloway2316 ай бұрын
With hindsight being a wonderful thing... probably a lack of foresight! I maybe wrong but I think there was a boundary change in 1958 and the GC went from the Eastern Region to the Midland Region... and, correct me if I am wrong, the Midland Region wanted rid of it!
@EM-yk1dw6 ай бұрын
@@andrewholloway231Yes and the Beeching report was ripe on route duplication too.
@BlackAndDeckerBoy5 ай бұрын
Falling freight traffic and passengers were not what they are today with long distance commuting. Parallel alternatives routes existed and are still open. M1 & M6 taking traffic away from the railways. No crystal ball available on globalisation, climate emergencies and mass migration
@flymuzza92056 ай бұрын
What do you think of the soundtrack? If too many people find it irritating, it can easily be removed!
@evanhenton33816 ай бұрын
I think it’s fine
@EM-yk1dw6 ай бұрын
It’s fine
@ogo2l6 ай бұрын
I could do without it. Still a very interesting Video, many thanks. Maybe a bit slower next time.
@owencarlstrand19456 ай бұрын
I could do without the music but a brilliant video.
@rwm29866 ай бұрын
OK for me!
@davepoole95206 ай бұрын
Wow. Amazing. Was all of this once railway track? Amazing to see how far apart the stations on the Metropolitan line are in the suburbs and even more amazing to see the distance between Quainton and Amersham which the Metropolitan once did cover.
@jhuc28696 ай бұрын
These disused railway lines wouldn’t have been wasted if they’d been kept intact as cycle routes.