Welcome back Joe. I still watch all your old demos whenever I need to demo a speaker or a cab. Definitely missed your excellent playing.

Joe really knew how to bring out the best of these speakers + cabs, it's a delight to see him back at it! (and hopefully for a few more videos).

Both sound like garbage,imo

It definitely does sound very good, but I'm not sure whether it's the speaker or the pleasure of having Joe with his special Strat back on this channel 😁 Welcome back, Joe!

I REALLY love Alnicos but this kind of video seems not to be very new. There is no comparison on KZbin with NEO Vtype. You should be the first to show differences between them, Ceramic Vtype and Neo Creambacks. I would be very thankful.

That is a superb sounding speaker! I usually don’t care for alnico speakers but this one seems to be smooth and yet rude in all the right places! 👍🏽

Nice to see you back here Joe! Mind blowing playing as usual!

Sounds great! Welcome back Joe! It's good to see - and hear - you on here again.

JOE!! Welcome back! So are you back at Zilla full time, or just parachuting in as “video expert dude”? 😊

Every demo of this speaker reminds me of Eric Johnson. There's something about how round it sounds, so it's weird you're playing a EJ strat.

By far, one of the best KZbin channels of this subject

Looking great Joe! Good to see you back

YESSSSSS!!!! Welcome home!😊😊😊😊😊

JOE! Hell yeah welcome back

AlNiCo is an alloy - not a compound! However, love these comparisons. Thought you might have included the new Celestion 100 Alnico in the test.

Yes, Joe! Awesome playing. Cab sounds killer.

Would like to hear that speaker with vintage wound bridge humbucker

What does VSOP stand for?

So there are good things happening in this crazy world. Welcome back, Joe.

Joe and his Strat sound great ... cab and speaker too ;-) I had never heard of Amperion speakers before this video. Thank you.

So glad to see Joe back on the channel!

I have experience with the Cream and Gold. I sold the Cream and bought the Gold because I wanted more chime in the cleans. I do miss the Cream for its middy "klang" though, especially in more driven sounds. When I can afford it, I'm gonna get another Deep Small Vintage cab from Zilla and load it with a Blue and a Cream.

I always like the neo in this setting, but I ran them in a 2x12 and they always felt like they got lost in the mix live and almost felt a little loose. I swapped for Ms and I’m much happier.

Without a doubt for me the cream is the best all rounder and particularly if you like a bit of gain 🤘🏻

Both sound good clean but the V30s get really fizzy sounding when overdriven which is probably due to the roughly 7k bump there on the EQ which quite a lot of people have complained about. Apparently this is no longer an issue on V30s made after 2022.

Swamp Thang, in my experience, is fantastic. They talked about it being really dark sounding, and that's what makes it perfect for very some players. Especially if you're cranking a Plexi style or a Fender style amp through it that can get a bit piercing when really turned up. For me, I use the Swamp Thang blended with a second speaker. My favorite 2x12 combo is the Swamp Thang and Tonker. For the studio, the Swamp Thang is almost a secret weapon for me, I have a 1x12 cab with one in it, and I always have it ready to go. Inevitably a guitar player will come into my studio and have their 4x12 with Vintage 30s in it. Secretly most producers/engineers hate newer (post mid 90s era when all speakers in the world changed) vintage 30s, their low end is somehow hollow and flubby while their upper mids are incredibly harsh). But, using a Swamp Thang as the primary tone and blending in a V30 to add in some brightness is a great sound.

What do you think of the Amperian V.S.O.P.? Would you run it in your rig?

I've always considered the Creamback version of all Celestion types of speakers. To be the top of the line units. In this instance with alnico mag units, gold is the most vintage voiced "PA" sounding of the group. Then depending on what your after, blue would be my personal 3rd favorite, then red absolutely with one of the new red Epiphone 335's. But the clear winner has to be the crunch machine creamback. Its got the fattest sweet spot by a wide margin. Its gonna be the one for me everytime, if these were my only choices. Mix a red and cream together in a 212 cab to add some top end bite? Dangerous territory.

I prefer the sound of the alnico and the M. That's reassuring because I have an M arriving tomorrow...

Rubby is best

Which ceramic speaker do you prefer to go with the Ruby?

the cream is just so well balanced. just nothing out of place. if i could have only one cab for absolutely everything, it'd be the cream for sure.

A Blue and a Cream in my Twin Reverb would sound awesome.

I am still on vacation so I am listening to it over JBL Extreme II. Not ideal setup. Never the less I know the speakers pretty good. For me personally, clean, the most balanced speaker between them is still the blue. Closest to it is the cream but you can notice that it is bit lazier than blue. Still an awesome speaker and great when you need the power handling as well. Blue has nice breakup bur power handling is just not enough. Blue, clean sounds very good with most of the amplifiers, though 15 Ohm version can be a bit top heavy with P2P boutique amplifiers. Cream does that better. Last 3 amplifiers I have made with Cream. Even two 18 Watt amplifiers were cream equipped. I have to admit that I have avoided ruby from the launch. I have heard 8 Ohm version, if I recall good, and it was extremely dark. All the top end was gone. This one sounds brighter but still worst in both clean and dirty for me. Gold clean has very specific middle to high range and feels more alive. Sometimes driven it reminds me of blue. Cream can get a bit dark when driven. Ruby doesn’t get much darker with dirt. Fascinating actually. I believe gold and ruby might work good in the combination. I know that for me Creamback H or similar ceramic heavy magnet speaker goes well with the Alnico Cream. It works for both clean and dirty. I loved gold with some amplifier because it has that Celestion middle gritty tone. But it is a bit too much with some amplifiers that are aggressive themselves. When I come home I might edit all my comments once I listen to all of this with my studio monitors setup. Though I might have heard it good enough.

I've always loved the idea of a BlueBell 4 x 12" cab. But that would have to be paired with a 50 watt head not a 100W.... I seem to prefer the Cream speaker here, though a little more top would be preferable. IMO

I can‘t tell the difference between the blue and the cream. Thanks for the video Paul!

RUBY IS MY FAV

Wonder how the ruby would mix with a Greenback H

Any speaker can rock

you're switching between the speakers too quickly.

I´m sorry with that much distorition I can´t get my head arround the difference in sound, I bet you like heavy distoriton nothibg wrong with that, but even the clean tones sounds slighly distorted in the bass. oh well It´s your channel and you can put whateer cotent you like, just i think it´s no usefull for subtle speaker difference, here the G12H30 50hz sound much like the V30, I tested myself and there is a world of difference betwenn the vintage 30 and the G12h30 50hz, a superb speaker and 30w one. Please don´t get me wrong, great playing but doesn´t do justice yo neither the v30 nor the veerable g12H30 real speaker (no china 70´s aniverssry here, I happen to have one g12h30 50hz that came stock with a Laney Lt5 made in england 5 watt class A amp, A single ended 5bq5 amp , with e beautifull marine plywood cabinete and a 12 inch g12H30 50hz, a miracle. I spent 500 bucks in that laney 2nd hand.

They need to make a green back with more wattage 25 ain’t enough for them. Suckers is only 100 W and I got 125 W amp can’t use them.

How does this only get 459 thumbs up over 3 years? Great vid.

That last one really popped for me. The warehouse speaker.

EVH and Classic are good. Heritage is pure garbage.

Sounds real good for Kemper being turned off😅😅😅😅

T75 sounds like its totally missing a bunch frequencies in the upper mids.

I go alnico with a H in my personal cabs every time

I’ve got some 16ohm G12M’s that Im absolutely loving in a 2x12. Seems to solve a lot of the fizz issues with v30 while preserving the low thump that I want. Im wondering if you have any thoughts on them? If I’d known better at the time, I probably would have ordered 8 ohms, but then I’d have more 500hz quack and less high end that I enjoy with these particular 16 ohm speakers