Roman History 10 - Octavian 44 - 23 BC

This is from the podcast series The History Of Rome by Mike Duncan.
He currently does The Revolutions podcast
www.revolutions...

[@jamiebusch9406]

"Sensing disaster, his troops deserted - getting out of the mountains any way they could. Brutus himself, fell into the hands of a Gaelic tribe looking to 'make nice' with Antony, who received a head in a box a few days later." Amazing! Sir you have a subtle command of our language.... Your podcast is a joy.

[@dayzeyrules]

I'm confused about this. Was there two Brutus?

[@TheJbirddude867]

@@dayzeyrules Yes, Decimus Junius Brutus Albinus was the senator and govenor cisapline gaul. Marcus Brutus partnered with Loginus in macedon

[@dayzeyrules]

@@TheJbirddude867 thank you so much 👍 very helpful

[@Argos-xb8ek]

That's a reoccurring theme in the downfall of Empires and Republics isn't it. The aristocracy becoming so detached from the other socioeconomic classes that it gives rise to chaos

[@geordiejones5618]

And they never learn...

[@peterhamlinhamlin8908]

The ruling classes becoming so detached from the people that it gives rise to chaos???? May I suggest that the ruling classes become so corrupt and detached that power and riches staying in their own class rather than the Continuity of the Empire itself. Nero fiddled ,the empire 🔥 burned.

[@chairborneranger1]

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[@kartikjana7551]

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[@bloodofthefayth]

"that can't happen to us"

[@deoglemnaco7025]

What makes this podcast so good, is a little known fact: The guitar you hear in the beginning is an actual recording of Constantine playing his guitar.

[@HJJP]

lol

[@CE-vd2px]

100% true

[@mjonhouston]

wow, that's old! ,...the only earlier recording I've ever heard of is ..."In Bedrock...twitch twitch" by ..."Dash Rip-Rock",...if it wasn't Dash, it MAY have been another Stone-Age Super-star..."Rock Roll", (real name ..."Roger Rollingstone").,...back then, as far as recording equipment, the Bird was the last word, once they started using diamond-tipped beaks, the recordings were as good as the best analog recordings of today.

[@deoglemnaco7025]

@@mjonhouston that’s just fucking stupid.

[@michaelsmyth3935]

You should check out Constantine: Live at the Byzantium Hippodrome with his backing band The Pretorian Six.

[@censorduck]

"okay, I thought you were a little extreme when you started murdering anyone who looked slightly traitorous, but levying taxes? That's the act of a madman.

[@Utahwizzard]

Taxation is theft

[@sachsman4462]

@@Utahwizzard Only if you believe it is

[@MogofWar]

@@sachsman4462 If believing something to be theft makes it theft, then it is theft.

[@azlanadil3646]

@@Utahwizzard Taxation by definition can’t be theft. Theft is a legal term which is broadly defined as “taking something someone else owns without permission illegally”. Since taxation is legal it by definition cannot be theft.

[@davidpeltier9148]

​@@azlanadil3646 Do you think that imminent domain is theft? Who gives permission in these circumstances?

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

"how I wish you could look into my heart and see how much I fear him"...! Brutus to Cicero on Octavian.

[@felipewerner6670]

he fears his own guilty, and octavian is the nemesis.

[@tntramzy12]

Let him burn in dantes hell the dog

[@eavaharris3519]

BEAUTIFUL comment.

[@Infernal460]

This sounds like propergander. Winners write history.

[@Catonius]

@@Infernal460 proper

[@patrickwingard1927]

Mike Duncan is my favorite scholar of Rome

[@dangamman669]

Unbelievable series. This is my 3rd time through and I feel like I'm just scratching the surface. The depth of detail is remarkable. If you enjoy the history of Rome, you must watch this series.

[@djblame8954]

You are the best audio book narrator I have ever heard....Your delivery is so easy, while perfectly inspirationally descriptive.

[@johnabel5943]

This is a podcast, not an audio book, dude.

[@DogeickBateman]

@@johnabel5943 Does it matter?

[@johnabel5943]

@@DogeickBateman He's commenting directly to the creator, who doesn't own this channel. Does it matter? By your logic, Joe Rogan should call his broadcast the "Joe Rogan Audiobook Experience"....does that make sense? Language matters unless you're a ghetto black. Are you a ghetto black?

[@DogeickBateman]

@@johnabel5943 Are you a crybaby?

[@theConquerersMama]

Well, Mike is reading from his own written script as opposed to speaking extemporaneously or conducting interviews. Reading with a conversational tone instead of flatly is a skill.

[@davidsan9654]

From now on I will refer to throwing a party as "hosting out-of-town dignitaries"

[@theConquerersMama]

All the best people do.

[@Vercingetorix.Fantasia]

Plebeian

[@davidsan9654]

@@Vercingetorix.Fantasia don't take that tone with me, peasant

[@LorolinAstori]

I will put this as mildly as possible. It's a very interesting opinion on this period of Roman history

[@PoochieCollins]

Elaborate?

[@timothystormann4901]

This is absolutely sensational work. Keep it up!

[@Alex-fm3og]

Historia Civilis says Decimus was turned over by a Roman checkpoint in Eastern Cisalpine Gaul while fleeing to Illyricum. Timaeus says he was captured by Gallic tribesmen in the Alps who decapitated him and sent the head to Antony. The sources must be bad for this particular event but reminds you that as immensely valuable these channels are for waypeople like me to get a reasonable overview of a topic, never be so complacent as to trust all the details. Things aren't clear even when its not expressly stated as such. Also: "We'll burn that bridge when we get to it." Amazing.

[@CE-vd2px]

Idk what you mean but i want point out this is Mike Duncan and not Timeus.

[@Alex-fm3og]

@@CE-vd2px Don't know what you're saying so I'll repeat with different words. I was referring to the event of Decimus' death. I mentioned two Roman history KZbinrs that have described it: one of which being the channel we are commenting on, Timaeus, the other being Historia Civilis. Their descriptions are pretty different for the level of detail the describe them in. My comment was about not taking everything for granted as unequivocal fact. Don't understand who the Mike guy you're referring to is but hopefully that clears it up for you.

[@cuddlesandkafka]

@@Alex-fm3og "Timaeus" has done us the great favor of collecting Duncan's podcasts into chapters on YT

[@polkka7797]

@@cuddlesandkafka makes listening to mikes work a lot easier

[@theConquerersMama]

Perhaps you missed the detail that Timaeus is not the author. He did not get something right or wrong. He uploaded Mike Duncan's History of Rome podcasts into wonderful, workable long you tube videos. You are years too late to add constructive feedback as Mike, the author and speaker, will not hear them. Thanks, Timaeus, again for the upload.

[@DistantLights]

41:58, that whole exchange of ideas between Brutus and his officers reminds me of Pompey at Pharsalus, where Pompey has Caesar in a worse position but his officers press him to attack. I guess they never learned from Pharsalus.

[@theConquerersMama]

I have never understood the tearing down of people who obviously learn their pronunciation from books or regional accents. Give me a person who is diving in and trying over a naysayer anyday. The time for constructive criticism on this work is a few years past. Not to mention, this is not even Mike Duncan's channel. Many thanks, Timaeus, for all the uploads.

[@CE-vd2px]

Who is tearing him down for pronunciation? I thought I noticed a few strange words I hadn't heard before. I think he meant censorship.

[@theConquerersMama]

@@CE-vd2px if you read any of the comments on this whole series, people love to chime in with correcting Mike Duncan's pronunciation or accent.

[@fartakiss9595]

​@@theConquerersMama I find it super annoying when, someone like Mike Duncan or Dan Carlin do a massive 3 hour video of fascinating content, just to see someone leave a comment about some smartass micro correction on Grammer, pronunciation or a slip of the tongue, instead of being thankful for the content and knowledge they just received.

[@GameMakerRob]

The only word that grates on me is the pronunciation of "Equites". I went to one of those schools that taught Latin and I would pronounce it as "e" (lower case e) "qui" (like quick) "tays" (like that dance song, Tay Tay Tay Tay, t t t t t Tay Tay) lol I never saw anyone mention it though so neither did I.

[@theConquerersMama]

@@GameMakerRob that's how I remember it being pronounced at school. Good on you for letting it pass. I used to be very rigid about such things. Mostly likely because I was raised with exacting standards academically speaking. Then I lived abroad and had to get by with my very poor language skills and heavy accent. I also had quite a few life experiences that taught me at the end of the day to not sweat the small stuff. Fretting about how someone pronounces something in a podcast that wrapped in 2012 on a channel that is not even Duncan's strikes me as very small stuff indeed.

[@gutsymonkey2179]

I don't know why you do it, or why you did it, but this is the best and most detailed history of Rome I've ever encountered. It deserves many, many move views. So far you are the best chronicler of this subject I've found online. Just curious, why do you do it, and how did you learn all this stuff? I'm very impressed as should anyone who is interested in this subject should be.........

[@ericwang9348]

Gutsy Monkey oh the uploader is not the one making these videos. He is simply spreading the podcasts across the Internet. Mike Duncan made this podcast ask him.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

The Walrus Cuber there's another comment where Timaeus tells them himself he's only the uploader and they still ask him about his pronunciation.

[@alexanderwedberg9491]

In last podcast, Duncan said that a major reason why he did this podcast, is to shed light on the many forgotten stories of Rome (although these particular episodes are dealing with the well familiar ones). As for learning, it's probably reading lots of classic authors and modern historians on antiquity and checking out archaeological finds in Italy. All of the classics are available legally for free online, ready to read. Many of them also exist as audiobooks IIRC. Check out this as an example: www.sacred-texts.com/cla/index.htm Tacitus Twelve Caesars and Ceasar's war commentaries are great starts. You can find some of the classics as audios on KZbin.

[@LetsGoGetThem]

I dont know how you do it, it might be reading out of a book or research on the internet. But I don't know man, I can't comprehend this my brain is about to explode!!

[@icemule]

@@alexanderwedberg9491 Thx for that awesome link.

[@user-cx5su9dc9p]

I want to thank you for this superlative program. Not only is it extremely detailed and informative, but also done in a very "down to earth" and thoroughly enjoyable manner. I am really enjoying it, and finding out so much about this seminal period of history, and especially the unchanging nature of human behavior. thank you so very much. Peter A.

[@joelkavanagh1464]

,,, podcast gold,, pure and simple ...

[@randombencounter263]

"By diplomacy if necessary, but hopefully by force." Marcus Antonius in a nutshell.

[@-timaeus-9781]

:)

[@irishcream9004]

Lepidus' role in the peace talks with the Liberators and the break down of civility was understated in this episode

[@skywise001]

I ran into this video searching for roman history documentaries and its rare Im so pleased with a channel on the you of tube. I'll have to head back to the start and watch them all :)

[@dannygrinuk6420]

Originally one of the earliest podcasts produced . Around a decade old now. You don't need to keep KZbin open. Search your favorite podcast player and run in the background.

[@joetheperformer]

Thank you for this. I have long dreamt of this kind of detailed overview of the history of Rome. Your work deserves much praise!

[@SavoPaddy]

Thank you so much. Excellent job. Spent my Sunday in and out of this whilst re-organising my life :) such a fascinating period, looking forward to the rest of your posts!

[@-timaeus-9781]

A little history always adds perspective when re-organizing ones life. :)

[@SavoPaddy]

It sure does! thanks

[@CE-vd2px]

Hows it goin now?

[@dannygrinuk6420]

One of the first podcasts ever made. Never originally intended for KZbin. Moved on to the History of Byzantium if you're interested in more. Same structure.

[@dominicp9296]

@@dannygrinuk6420 where is that or the uploader I would love to listen to that also

[@Darthaurelius]

I don't know who this Timaeus is, but his knowledge of Rome and his great storytelling skills are wonderful. I have been a Roman history lover ever since I was a little boy and love this work. Only critique I have and it is minor, is his pronouncation of Latin names and places, other than this bravo my friend. Bravo. A great series of books could be made from this work.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

Rob Gibson Timaeus is only the uploader man,this is a podcast series he uploaded to KZbin... the original creator and narrator of this series is Mike Duncan from his original podcast.

[@conlawmeateater8792]

Yeah it's in the description Mike Duncan lol. He's a great narrator though.

[@joshuaball2276]

How can anyone thumbs down this series!

[@jtgd]

The channel owner supports the far-right

[@coreyjsilva3534]

I had no idea he supported the right and that has nothing to do with me giving it a thumbs down. The guy is simply ignorant and or biased and says a bunch of bullshit about Caesar that is flat out not true. My post in the main comments gets into it in a little more detail. I LOVE Roman History and was excited to see this series. However I was disappointed once I listened. Besides the lying he also does not have a good "Radio Voice" to use a slightly anachronistic term.

[@castellamedia]

@@coreyjsilva3534 What is he lying about?

[@coreyjsilva3534]

@@horst5511 the best place to start for an objective and comprehensive primer on Augustus Caesar I recommend reading the biography of him by Anthony Everett. Or I may have spelled his name wrong but it is something like that. He actually has done excellent bios of a lot of the major players of the era including Julius, Cicero, Mark Antony and more and they are all excellent resources of information free of the obviously biased and completely disengenous narration of this episode. I can not speak for other episodes as soon as I heard the repeated and obvious parroting of 2000 year old Roman Republican propaganda over and over in this guys smarmy voice that it was not something I wanted to continue watching in the future.

[@coreyjsilva3534]

@@castellamedia I posted a summary of some of the more obvious dishonest portrayals in either this or the main thread. I refer you to it. But to name just one obvious point he totaly distorts Octavian/Augustus personality, reputation, accomplishments and legacy by various means. Omitting important details that counter his narrative and exaggerating others that do. Repeating tales that are well known to be Antony faction propaganda against him making all sorts of assumptions and extrapolations from what facts he does present; rarely in their correct context. Simply put the whole description through both show and tell of the most important protagonist in this entire sprawling story of Roman history is purposefully misrepresented, and not for the better. Why, I have no idea.

[@martentrudeau6948]

Who ever said history is boring doesn't know Roman history!

[@stephenwill4852]

Excellent made my day finding this Roman history series, well read too thank you.!

[@FGRNiko]

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[@FGRNiko]

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[@valentinionita4798]

Conspirators can not propose a replacement for Caeaar. Proposing a replacement will bring division amongst themselves and this will compromise the plot. They just go ahed thinking, things will figure out for themselves flowing the old rules.

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

Much better than Historia Civilis! Less biased. Amazing videos. I know you're not the author but thanks so much for uploading them! A great format to listen to while relaxing in the woods. Jupiters hand extends toward you.

[@AndreLuis-gw5ox]

Why Historia Civilis is biased?

[@danieleriksson5587]

@@AndreLuis-gw5ox I mean he seems kinda biased for Caesar and other notable historical figures. But it might also be his storytelling that is focused on the person

[@polkka7797]

@@danieleriksson5587 he also hates Octavian

[@danieleriksson5587]

@@polkka7797 That is true.

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

Are you for real? Octavian was born during the year of Cicero's first Consul ship? The Gods play cruel jokes

[@dominicp9296]

Agrippa if that's how you spell his name was truly a great friend for Octavian if it wasn't for him I don't know if octavian would of came out on top

[@lichcoin6144]

Indeed. Most Emperors would have outright killed if it meant getting a friend as kickass, loyal and capable as Agrippa.

[@dannygreen1907]

This was 🔥. Good job man. If u do one Alexander shiiiiii I'll be locked into it👍

[@nickstallard8604]

this is superb. I've really enjoyed listening to these. pls do another subject, If it's possible that is. 5 stars.

[@cuddlesandkafka]

Mike Duncan does in fact have material on other subjects. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revolutions/id703889772

[@garysmith5592]

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[@natsones1374]

Found the podcast on Stitcher as well. This is superb.

[@RoboBoddicker]

“By all means must we fly; not with our feet, however, but with our hands.”

[@jaylene1701]

In spite of my other comment, I do enjoy this series.

[@Catonius]

what did your other comment say?

[@jaylene1701]

@@Catonius I don't really remember exactly, but probably I was complaining about the portrayal of Octavian in the Rome series. According to Suetonias, and Dio and some other ancient historians, Octavian was slender but not frail. He did consider himself short at least compared to Caesar and wore elevated shoes until he was well established. But mainly nothing is ever said about his "adventures." It is assumed by modern day historians that Agrippa was always with him in battle. For example, nothing is said about Agrippa being with him at Philippi. There were two battles. The first was when Octavian's camp was unexpectedly overrun by eager troops without being given command to fight. That was when Octavian was sick and was not in camp which gave rise to Antony's charge of cowardice. In the second battle when everyone was lined up etc. waiting for the command to engage; it is said that Octavian rode his horse back and forth across the front line encouraging his troops the same as Antony. Octavian also fought in that battle. If Agrippa was there, then where was he during the first battle when Octavian's camp was over-run and how come Agrippa didn't lead in the second battle? After becoming emperor, Octavian also had to fight several battles until those who were trying to over run the borders were convinced that it looked as if this Caesar was going to be around for awhile. There was something about Octavian that caused legionnaires to follow him. I can not believe that just having the name Caesar would cause legions to follow him when he was just 19 years old. Caesar saw or was aware of something that caused him to adopt Octavian. Octavian fought two battles against Antony and won both of them, although Agrippa was the leader at Actium. To be fair, history is not perfect. Even some of our ancient historians used the works of historians even older than they. So I am sure events got distorted, left out or even created over the years.

[@Catonius]

@@jaylene1701 My pal saw the older Octavian shopping at Waitrose once, & I met Ciaran Hinds by chance in Dublin. I enjoyed the show despite its shortcomings & abbreviations, still managed to give a real 'flavour' of antiquity compared to virtually everything else that (mis)represents the period & culture. The points you make are valid and founded in the source material so I empathize with your position quite readily. Cheerio! ;-)

[@lawrencebloom2454]

Maps are great.

[@LORDNAG1]

Ceaser choosed very well. Dam even he death he conquered his enemies.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

Nestor Gonzalez *chose

[@rulerofnewmexico]

I love this series! However sometimes when he says Anthony I hear Andy lol

[@kylemendoza8860]

I'm pretty sure Octavian was married to Marc Anthony's stepdaughter ( Fulvia's daughter) I think he divorced her right before or maybe during the Rebellion with Lucius Anthony.

[@greyinglis7570]

What the hell did Octavian do or say to Caesar to get that level of admiration and confidence? I feel bad for poor Mark Antony. Friendship obviously does sink. August should be Marcus.

[@fartakiss9595]

I feel for Lepidus... After he captured Sicily, in his successful attempt to aid Octavian and Agrippa from their disastrous campaigns at sea, he saw Octavian was going to take sole credit for the triumph over Sextus Pompaus and didn't want to disband his part of the army without some reassurance. However Leopardis shot himself in the foot by attempting to have Octavian escorted out of his base, leaving no room for compromises to be made, once his army had mutinied.

[@gjones7547]

Brilliant Oratory... It's like taking a time machine back to Rome.. Just think with our 21st century knowledge, how we could change history. Undoubtedly for the worse. 🧐

[@Administrator-ed3nl]

1:39:00

[@memeb7325]

How is this not a movie

[@chaz1357]

meme b If it were a movie I'm sure they'd ruin it like every other

[@JamesDeBall]

check out the hbo show

[@lemonvariable72]

Just a? You could 3-4 out of caesar easy

[@Outlaw8908]

HBO’s Rome... though it is a rush job when it gets to that point.

[@myemailaccount3046]

meme b i take it that none of you dumb fucks ever saw the Cleopatra movie. You are all so fucking intelligent and informed and what's the other i word? oh yes intellectual... assholes

[@arvindominguez5743]

Hello !!!! Greetings from America!

[@jynexe3056]

Its strange really, that for thousands of years, everyone would want to be like Caesar. They would constantly impersonate him or take his name and use it for themselves. It speaks to the true magnitude of his character and impact on the entire history of the world. Hell, today, his name is unambiguous, despite the fact he lived over 2,000 years ago. Despite his flaws, Caesar, unequivocally, is the most influential man in all of European history.

[@-timaeus-9781]

The term Caesar became a title for the emperors to hold. The same is also true of Augustus. They weren't simply trying to emulate him. The names of Roman emperors are sometimes ludicrously long.

[@kanyekubrick5391]

Mark Antny

[@LoneKharnivore]

"Irretrievably bollocksed" fucking lol.

[@volbound1700]

Why is Pontus not under Roman Rule? The city of Trapezus and Zela and area around them should be Roman. They were just previously in Julius Caesar map?

[@onefeather2]

Wish you would do some animation with the maps showing where they went and were going.

[@gabo1841997]

This podcast has given me a new perspective on Octavian. He now sounds like a mischievous and cynical sociopath with no shame or values of any kind.

[@indieWellie]

that's because he was.

[@polkka7797]

He was, but he was effective and didn’t become a maniac in power so better him then any other I guess

[@Bill23799]

Hey Timaeus, where did you grow up? I grew up in New Rochelle, Ny and my best friend as a boy was named Antknee Nesci. Haha you pronounce Anthony the same way we used to.

[@-timaeus-9781]

This is a series done by Mike Duncan several years ago. I have just uploaded them to youtube. Lol, Antnee :) His name was actually Marcus Antonius. If we didn't Anglicize it then everyone would pronounce it properly.

[@severinks8887]

I don't understand something,If Anthony's current wife was Fulvia where the hell did Octavia(August's only sister)come in?She was married to him long enough to have a couple of kids(including Antonia the older,and Antonia the younger who was Claudius' mother and Caligula's paternal grandmother)and she was with and married to him when he left her for Cleopatra and even took Anthony and Cleopatra's kids when they were dead.Edit,I guess I just found out but it still makes no sense because Anthony was with Cleopatra already but found time to be with Octavia long enough to have kids then he went back to Cleopatra like they had never been apart?

[@Byronic19134]

Yes remember that Antony had to always go back to Rome for political reasons and the Antony vs Octavium saga played out over the course of like 12 years in real life.

[@TheHomelessDreamer]

This "Andy" guy Mike Duncan keeps talking about, he sounds a lot like Mark Anthony (Marcus Antonius)

[@markokassenaar4387]

I love this series!! If I am allowed one bad joke…when I heard the guitar motive, my first reaction was “I need more cow bell!”

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Bookmark: 1:28:36

[@dameinoferrall2400]

Ant-knee? who is this Ant-knee that is continuously mentioned?

[@saitdizdarevic3538]

This guy acts like he was around and knows what they actualy called him

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

Tom Sawyer pretty sure he was talking about the op spaz

[@JG_Enigma]

I find the connections between Alexander and Augustus interesting. Both were the successors of some of the greatest people at the time; both Philip and Caesar died when the two were around the same age; Alexander died in his 30s, around the same age Octavian became Augustus; and both founded an empire. The only real difference is that one failed and the other succeeded. Just me?

[@Azarkhan890]

Octavian lived to be 77, Alexander died when he was only 33 years old, so I can't say Alexander failed. He just died too young.

[@JG_Enigma]

@@Azarkhan890 Good point. It is ironic that Alexander managed to survive death for so long only to die of a fever not long after he finished conquering Persia and Octavian was the one who barely had a working immune system. It does make me think of what kind of an empire Alexander would have been able to build if he lived long enough to die to old age and how long it would have lasted.

[@Azarkhan890]

@@JG_Enigma Alexander was severely wounded in some of his battles (e.g. at Multan) which I think contributed to his early death. If Alexander had lived I wonder how that would have impacted Rome since Alexander might have claimed hegemony over the Greek states in southern Italy and Sicily.

[@JG_Enigma]

@@Azarkhan890 True, Alexander was a bit of a battle addict. Although, I was thinking more of a conquest of India since Alex wanted to reach the end of the world. But yeah, a conflict with Rome by the Macedonian Empire would be incredibly interesting to read about.

[@incompetentobjectivist3850]

Just you.

[@gingerbill128]

thanks .

[@jamesesslinger1976]

These are awesome history videos of Rome! Can I request you doing a series on the Summarians? Thanks for these videos!

[@dannygrinuk6420]

This is actually one of the earliest podcasts ever made. Never intended as a KZbin video. It has to be nearly 10 years old now. I believe he moved on to the history of the late Roman (Byzantine) Empire, if you're interested in more.

[@jamesesslinger1976]

@@dannygrinuk6420 Thanks! Yes I am interested in the late Roman empire as well. Where can I find his newer stuff?

[@C0NSTANTINUS]

@@jamesesslinger1976look up mike Duncan KZbin

[@jamesesslinger1976]

@@C0NSTANTINUS thanks!

[@C0NSTANTINUS]

@@jamesesslinger1976 yw

[@jannarkiewicz633]

Sage advice

[@WilliamLawrence7]

OCTAVIUS, how have you learned all these details and muck up the main charecters name every single time???

[@420judaspriest]

how do i get ahold of this guy..heard he wrote a book

[@lesbooth9454]

Always taken shows off a just joking buddy great job thanks a lot

[@MarcusAgrippa390]

6:49 Testify my brother

[@casperscott1201]

Excellent podcast very rarely wrong. This point is a bit perdantic but mark anothony was named as a secondary heir if octavian was unable or unwilling to inherit and in case caesar had a legitimate male biological child he was named guardian.

[@incompetentobjectivist3850]

Mentioned.

[@miguelgomezdonoso5671]

It was mentioned

[@slim420MM]

Antonius betrayed Caesar and took his woman. Augustus revenged him.

[@stephendean2896]

Listen to every word

[@daveycrocket4873]

Anthony is pronounced Ann-Tho-knee not Ant-knee

[@effexon]

aint his period with many big empires.... roman, chinese, some in south american continent... something in this era supports bigger empires, while 500AD to ~1500AD towards 20th century smaller kingdoms and republics and even city states prosper... then slowly 20th century bigger superpowers like US and soviet union rise again. then there are big regional powers eg UK 1800s but some of them like tsarist russia afaik didnt do so much international influence. Roughly 500AD to 1500AD was sleeping time for big empires. at least in western world. Pope in europe was influenctial but roman numbers of throwing 100,000 soldiers here and there repeatedly is just staggering in that era.

[@nacholibre4516]

Instead of Anthony i keep hearing Annie?! 😅

[@dramlamb5196]

It's Antony not Anthony. His actual name was Marcus Antonius. But yea Mike says it very quickly sometimes. I have always thought it was strange how we choose to give certain Romans english versions of their names, but not others. Marcus Antonius is actually a much more natual sounding name that Marcus Aurelius, but we don't call him something silly like Mark Aureli.

[@trentreffner5699]

Gentlemen of the RP community who are here just perusing Roman history; why the hell do we (as a society) point to Beyonce and Jay-z and Cardi B as examples of relationships when we can just point to Mark Antony, Cleopatra, and Octavian :D It is so beautiful seeing this play out in antiquity amongst the powerful of the known world lols.

[@Cheka__]

Antney

[@bdleo300]

Mark Antony was actually jealous of Publius Ventidius

[@Byronic19134]

It was not Antony who was jealous because he knew the value of a great military man, it was Octavium who could not afford to have another superstar general on Antony side, or even the senators who decided to give him a triump to make them feel better about themselves for having to kill him. I would imagine that Ventidius dying along with Octavium not sending the rest of the troops put the final divide in they're relationship.

[@ditto1958]

Why do you say ANT-nee instead of AN-tuh-nee?

[@williambryan1394]

If you I’ll

[@charlesandrews2360]

And Alexander's always going to have a better-looking wife drive a nicer car and have smarter kids and a better dancer

[@scr3aming3agle83]

Woe Unto Rufus Tranquillus

[@mathtonight1084]

Wikipedia tells us that it was Decimus Brutus, and not Marcus Junius Brutus, who was indicated in Caesar's will (some argue that Decimus was the illegitimate son of Caesar.)

[@coreyjsilva3534]

No. Decimus was the general who faced off against julius after he marched on Rome. Marcus Junius was one of the assassins, his mother was Julius favorite lover and HE was thought to be Jesus bastard.

[@1teneris]

The Romans of the Republic actually didn't care to much about the blood, they cared more about the name. And if Caesar would adopt any of his legats into his family it would have been Decimus Brutus who was far less of a wild card than Marcus Antonius. Marcus Iunius Brutus on the other hand was not only the son of one of Ceasar's lovers but also (persumably, did I mentiothe the Roman custom of adopion?) a descendant of the Lucius Iunius Brutus who threw out the last king of Rome and who had two of his sons executed when they tried to reinstate the king. Which was the main reason why the conspirators desperatly needed Marcus Brutus, to be legit.

[@toddster2721]

@@coreyjsilva3534 decimus was always on Caesar’s side. He never fought against Caesar

[@coreyjsilva3534]

@@toddster2721 I do not believe you are correct on that point sir. But it has been a while since I studied this period. Theoretically it is possible I am mistaken and it was only Antony and Augustus that he oppossed but I don't think so. But FOR SURE Decimus was never rumored to be Caesar's bastard as HIS MOTHER NEVER HAD A LONG STANDING AFFAIR WITH HIM. That was the other more famous Brutus. The original poster who I was replying to should perhaps READ HISTORY, as he seems completely confused about the details of this period. Salut.

[@coreyjsilva3534]

If you consider WIKIPEDIA a trustworthy source I have SEVERAL bridges to sell you... Do you believe the Pyramids were built just 5k years ago too? Do you belive in Santa Clause and Virgin births? This is all quite humorous. People who clearly have never even read historical texts and get their facts off KZbin and Wikipedia WITHOUT cross referencing and doing further research... AND not being embarrassed by that but actually COMMENTING and POSTING on matters they are clearly ignorant of. Such is life in the 21st century...

[@jimt6498]

It's An-to-ny ... not Andy!

[@freyasslain2203]

If you like Mike Duncan , you'll adore Dame Mary Beard .

[@historycenter4011]

I though it was Philli-pie not Philli-pee

[@chaz1357]

Count Lovula That's because it's Mark Antony not Anthony lol.

[@TheHiyy]

You're pretty fucking dumb.

[@chaz1357]

TheHiyy Who?

[@RoboBoddicker]

well, it should still be "an-tony" not "ant-nee." It is a bit irritating

[@incompetentobjectivist3850]

Phillip pees on phillips pie. It is pee pie!

[@rickvassell8349]

Anteny

[@dothrakidani358]

Octavius.octavian.augustus Gaius..jc to friends.

[@jaylene1701]

It is true that Octavian was left behind because of his sickness. This history does not mention that on his way to Spain he and his companions were shipwrecked. Cassias Dio does not mention who his companions were. They then traveled by land to Caesar's camp through enemy territory. This is one of the reasons that Caesar was impressed by Octavian. As far as everyone thinking he was a coward? I can't remember if it was Suetonius or Cassias Dio, who said that only Mark Antony spread rumors that he was a coward when he was hidden by his physician during the FIRST battle at Philippi. He led his legion during the second battle. Unfortunately, movies and such give the impression that there was only one battle at Philippi. Also, even though Octavian was going to school, he was stationed with the Macedonia legion when Caesar was killed. I do not remember which battle but Octavian on seeing that his legionaries were faltering on an attack, picked up a shield and led his men across a bridge. Do you really think a teenager who would risk his life to get to Spain in spite of the fact that he had not fully recovered and travel through enemy territory to get to his uncle's camp was a coward? Do you really think that a teenager who would take on the task of forming legions to avenge his uncle's death was a coward? Do you really think that legions would follow a teenager regardless of his last name if they knew nothing about his abilities? One has to be able to lead. I also could not find any evidence that Agrippa led his legions as Agrippa was his naval general. Also, what is the blanket statement that everyone began to think that he was a coward when nothing mentions that in history except the movies? Both historians say that though he had a slender built, he was handsome and "well-formed" in built. It is too bad I think that Octavian is pictured as being weak with Mark Antony pictured as a hero when ANCIENT historians do not give that picture at all.

[@BlacksmithBets]

He mentioned the bride story and that it was likely propoghanda but also said it may be true and through the when series defends Octavian saying that the rumours of cowardice were likely just that.

[@Hugh_Morris]

I think Augustus was just frail and of poor health. Even outside of commanding troops he was gravely ill a few times, and even nearly died on one occasion during his reign. I agree that the idea of him being a coward is propaganda, even when Aggripa was commanding the armies it's not like Augustus wasn't there beside him on the battlefield.

[@jaylene1701]

​@@Hugh_Morris He was sick a lot when younger but seemed to have "grown out" of it as he got older. There seems to have been some kind of illness prevalent in the Julii as Julius Caesar had the "falling sickness" (epilepsy?) It is thought that Octavian had asthma which I think was brought on by allergies. That is only my opinion since my oldest daughter suffered from allergies to the point where she could barely breath. Suetonius and others say he was not frail but "slight of built but well-formed." I think of frail as being weak but according to ancient historians he was anything but that. Octavian knew Agrippa was a much better commander and he used him extensively. I don't remember Agrippa being mentioned in history before the battle of Actium. Agrippa commanded the fleet of warships for the most part. Agrippa apparently was not there for the Battle at Philippi. If he had been, he would have taken over while Octavian was sick when Octavian's camp was unexpectedly attacked. I have to go back and look up as to when Agrippa first appeared in history now that I think of it.

[@BenGurskyMusic]

Octavian is that Iago type character that with a whole ton of luck and enough time eventually figured it all out and whooped dat ass

[@coreyjsilva3534]

If you think you can conquer all of the great opponents of his Era militarily, end over a century of near constant civil war and one warlord after the next trying to dominate Rome for nothing but their own selfish benefit, and then pivot to being one of the most dynamic and impressive conciliatory political figures in known history ~ massaging the Senate's egos into accepting the death of the Republic and all their long traditions of aristocratic dominance...without the death of it's institutions... ushering in a period of relative peace and stability of such historical magnitide it has to be given a God damn name... (those are given to WARS not PEACE traditionally)... To start off with nearly a decade and a half of being the bloody butcher that historical leaders of the Era had to be in order to EXIST never mind SUCEED... And after accumulating more power than any man in the known history of the word to Romans at the time (Alexander's Empire was a Paper Tiger that Collapsed upon his death and in fact the power struggle for it is what caused his death by poison the power he held was not even i. The same ballpark) he did not (as almost any such an would including Julius Caesar) allow the power to blind him to the weakness and danger inherent in his position despite the power nor did he rule with his own selfish interest in mind. Every Roman strongman who defied the republic used the wealth of the state to enrich themselves. When Rome's coffers fell low on grain or coin Augustus PAID THE STATE'S BILLS. He correctly identified the most pressing external threats to Rome were due to men just like Julius putting their own glory above the strategic interests of Rome and reorganized the entire empire and military to make such acts much harder. Further disastrous expansions were at the hands primarily of his successors as emperor not from Rouge generals. All great men have luck. Many failures have just as much luck or more. The difference is HOW THEY PARLAY THAT LUCK. Augustus was no luckier than any other successful man of history, yet he turned his fortunes into a legacy that laid the foundations for modern Western Civilization. And despite having all that blood on his hands by the age of 33 died peacefully in his bed at 73(ish) years old. Which nowadays would be more like 90 or 100. To rule that long and successfully is almost without precedent in those historical times. In short IF YOU THINK THAT I have a bridge to sell you. Your analysis is completely wrong, and shows your ignorance on the topic. For the life of me.I do not understand why people who have never researched a topic seriously think it is clever to make remarks on matters of import even when massively uninformed. With a completely juvenile and superficial understanding of the topic in question. It does NOT make you look clever. It makes you look like a common fool.

[@yasmimminsay9279]

subscribed-august 14,2016- fantastic channel-please, speak slowlier- consider you´re speaking for foreign listeners all over the world which native language is not English - l can understand Bruce Gore but, am not able to understan your speech, l´m sorry for that, because your videos are fantastic, anyway l subscribed.

[@-timaeus-9781]

Hey, thanks for watching :) I upload various audio books and things that are generally of a historical nature and put them into playlists on my channel. This is from the podcast series The History Of Rome by Mike Duncan. I enjoy making these videos and am glad that other like them as well.

[@yasmimminsay9279]

- Timaeus - what region of England are you from-

[@-timaeus-9781]

yasmim minsay I'm not from England, I'm from Nashville Tn. :) I'm not sure where Mike is from, if that's what you meant.

[@frozenglaicericet-pose6104]

hey Timaeus can't wait for more vids so you're from Nashville huh? you're not to far from me I hail from springfield,TN

[@gutsymonkey2179]

If you don't like an American accent, listen to your own native language. Simple.

[@bobdoom3423]

The thumb downers couldn't even write a paragraph let alone register an IQ.

[@DonRoyalX]

Hahaha man. I’m baffled by those who hate this history, especially narrated by this man so well

[@dougmorris6208]

Ant’ oh Nee.

[@joelkavanagh1464]

,,, meye boy octius s' the only one getting it owl riot,, imho ...

[@donaldhall8785]

46:31

[@WOTHAN66666]

Slavic STATES???? Tribes im fine with but STATES HAHAHA NO NO NO

[@lukacvitkovic8550]

Right? xD We barely have a few functioning states in current year haha

[@violetrose415]

31:00

[@forhonor3754]

Why does it say Istanbul there?

[@Valk.Rebels]

Emperor Constantine had not yet captured Istanbul and renamed it Constantinople.

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

steven weeks um no it shows the modern name of the city in brackets. The real name of the city you can see above it, Byzantium. Constantine established Constantinople in the spot 300 years after the events of this video and then 1100 years later the Turks conquered it and renamed it Istanbul

[@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking]

That's nobody's business - but the Turks.

[@benquinney2]

Constitutional crisis

[@PapiJack]

Am I the only one who keeps hearing “Andy” instead of “Anthony”?

[@kanyekubrick5391]

Carlos Antny or Entny is what i hear kek

[@theartofwarapplied1738]

That's the way to pronounce it in English; my great granny said Ant'ny too. It's same as saying Jim for James, Plimuth for Plymouth, and so on.

[@theartofwarapplied1738]

Same rule applies of not saying the "th" with original Matthew. Not correct to say Math-yew. The name is intended to sound like Mateo or Mario. I like that Mike says it this way.

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

The Art of War Applied it’s Marc Antony. An-to-ny. It’s just the anglicization of Marcus Antonius, it’s not quite like saying Jim for James (Jim is a nickname, its not pronounced like James at all) and Plimouth is just how you pronounce Plymouth. it’s really probably just a dialect thing where he says it too fast to enunciate properly. All you do is take Marcus Antonius and take the -us suffix off, Marc Antoni (otherwise spelled as Antony).

[@johnduchesneau8685]

I hear "Ant-nee"

[@derekk.2263]

Great content but I cringe every time he says "quaestor". It's pronounced like "kwestor".

[@frankieshankly5368]

I cringe everytime someone complaints about the pronouncements...:)

[@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh]

I hear 'Andy' rather than 'Anthony'. How about a 't' ?

[@incompetentobjectivist3850]

@@frankieshankly5368 pronouncements? Do you intend to say pronunciations?

[@romegavadquez6310]

Dude, the way you pronounce Anthony’s name makes me want to rip my ears off

[@incompetentobjectivist3850]

Have fun at that!

[@jerrycoomberry2541]

Does anyone else cringe every time he says Antnee?

[@john_smith_john]

no, shut up

[@danieleriksson5587]

no Shut up

[@lucifereden9142]

gengish khan better than alexander.mongols the exception

[@-timaeus-9781]

Genghis Khan killed more people, something like 10% of the worlds population at the time, but I don't know if was a better general. The mongols were like the Persians, which Alexander defeated, and would just swarm their enemies. Personally I consider Hannibal to be the best general even though he wasn't able to take Rome, which was mostly due to lack of support from Carthage. There is an argument over whether Hannibal or Alexander was the best though. Alexander was the most successful against the worst odds, but Hannibal had much fewer men. I suppose if Alexander had fought Rome in 200 B.C. then we would know.

[@lucifereden9142]

- Timaeus - the mongols were not like Persians.Mongols had one kf the best generals in history and the only reason Mongols stopped in Hungary was that their general death from to much alchool. In my oppinion the best generals in the world are:Gengish Khan,Alexander,Caeser

[@-timaeus-9781]

Lucifer Eden I never said the Persians were Mongols. I was comparing the fact that they were just a rabble that used numbers as the means of their advantage against the much smaller force that Alexander had. Basically I was saying that Alexander would have defeated the Mongols under the same conditions. But to each his own.

[@lucifereden9142]

- Timaeus -​ you cannot compare it.The Mongols won at that time,because of their advange technology.Surely Alexander would lose.

[@enternamehere2222]

I think the major part of Alexander's career being unsurmountable is the length of it. He lived maybe a half of what genghis did yet had comparable end results. In such a short amount of time he did more than the vast majority of great men did in a full lifetime.