0 vs 100 vs 250 vs 500 % Magic Find in D2R

[@cconti2600]

Lmao first drop was chance guards they were like please for the love of god get some magic find 😂

[@junqueirapedro13]

Great content as usual! I've always felt like the sweet spot is around 250-300 mf. You can easily achieve that without severely compromising your dmg output and still do runs efficiently, and get a lot of good stuff. Getting too much mf beyond that point will only make your runs slower and the reward is definitely not worth it in terms of drops per minute.

[@zarfen]

Thanks! 🙂 And I agree

[@mekkiepoo]

My planned build runs about 200% magic find... seems about perfect :D Thanks for this video!

[@Dragoon-tie]

I normally aim for around that 250-300 mark while working on my grail as I definitely noticed a significant impact on damage depending on the build I am playing glad this has been verified by you p.s love your vids man

[@zarfen]

Same here, 250-300 is where I feel like I have “enough” but it depends a bit on what character I run of course. Thank you so much!

[@pascaltomasovic3586]

same. 250-300 seems very optimal in terms of clearing speed. you might save two seconds per run with less mf, but thats not at all worth doing as a run might take a full minute with an unlucky online map layout. 105fcr should always be met

[@zarfen]

@pascaltomasovic3586 yeah I think that’s a good rule of thumb, but it also depends so much on what character you run and what gear you have available.

[@xijinpig7978]

your best odds are look at the shape of the moon the night you are grinding. Moonless / Crescent = go back to bed, dont waste time Full moon = LETS GO BABY

[@candlestyx8517]

This was a very concise and straight forward video, thank you Zarfen.

[@zarfen]

Glad you liked it!

[@freddew]

This is the most swedish english i have heard.

[@zarfen]

Då skulle du höra mig när jag pratar vardagsengelska 😉

[@freddew]

When it rains it pours, den tar jag med mig 😊

[@Dawit49]

Some swede just do this. We do not all have "knut" sounding englando

[@ID-8491]

​@@zarfenSay "Jon Bon Jovi eats a cheeseburger"? :D

[@Szgerle]

its so swedish it sounds like he could start fellating a migrant at any second

[@NonnyStrikes]

Kudos on the work put in as well. I hope you are still growing! Don't give up and they won't give up on you!

[@Whyteeford]

Great video. I think you should also add the time it took to complete the 100 runs. Considering the drop off in dps for more MF, the time taken would put this video into more perspective, and show the efficiency with each gear set used. If the 500mf build took 50% longer than the 250mf build, but only returned 10% more finds..then obviously not as efficient. But if it only took 10% more time for those 10% more finds, then its actually just as efficient, and worth it, if your JUST grinding loot. The change from 100MF to 250MF resulted in a 25% increase in finds. That's probably the sweet spot right there

[@zarfen]

Absolutely! I agree that this would have made it even more useful, and the plan was to do this in the beginning. The problem is that I couldn’t put together any decently “realistic” gear set ups with the items I had saved on my mules. With the gear I used in this video, the only decrease in speed I really noticed was with the 500% mf, because that’s when I had to start sacrificing skills and fcr for more mf. I could potentially redo this experiment sometime, and then put more time and effort into planning and acquiring more gear

[@papalamada]

This is awesome and fun to watch, thanks for the hard work! I'll probably stick to around 250% myself to not compromise my run speed.

[@zarfen]

Thanks! I’m glad you liked it. Yeah me too. Unless I become a rich guy with unlimited 7%mf scs and ists

[@stanosherkanor8416]

I wonder what is the absolute highest Magic Find. I'm seeing posts of over 1000 but would be cool to see what you come up with. Great videos! Really enjoying the effort.

[@Strokjer]

Great video, and really well edited.

[@zarfen]

Thank you!

[@Theotherlostprimarch]

This is the best science I’ve seen done since 2019…

[@gertrudeb5045]

thank you for answering my childhood question

[@k1kk0ssbm13]

Nice vid dude, very interesting to watch

[@zarfen]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@Gladiatorat]

I'm just starting my more serious search for a Stormshield with single player hardcord barbarian, so seeing 2 drop was hearthwarming :)

[@Ice0slayer]

NIce comparison! 300mf feels like the sweetspot!

[@EricN73158]

One of my buds from mid/high school way back in the day use to run a bot online farming pindle and he always had crazy gear. No clue where he got the bot from or how it worked but more or less he told me he just runs it every night when he went to bed and school gets home from school and all he did was sort out the trash. After playing with him for a bit the game was kinda boring because there was nothing to really hunt for. But before playing with him I use to play so much, hunting gear and dueling people. it was most of what I did in grade 8, 9 and 10. When kids in class talked about d2 back then they say something like "Oh I play that game too" Id say something like "Yeah I made a new guy on Sunday and maybe after 3 hours hes level 75 and ready for dueling." and they just freak out like "WTF 75 in no time?"... Yeah you just rush with a friend and level in hell X what ever was meta at the time(it was cows back then). My other friend from high school that I played with use to help each other out. We farm, power lvl and what not, also duel. It was great. He had this barb that only had 5% small walk run speed charms in his bag... omg that guy was so fast. He could out run a sorc telein. This was a really long time ago when 5% faster walk/run use to exist but they took them out of the game because they where too strong :(

[@marcinkroszel3533]

Nice analysis! I am lvl 79 sorceress and I was wondering if it is worth to jump from 120 MF to 250 MF but losing like 60 resistance everywhere. Now I know it's not worth the effort. Thanks a lot!

[@UnwrappingByMimiKoteng]

0% = 2:13 100% = 4:18 250% = 6:41 500% = 9:21

[@choupetto85]

if your merc gets the kill , its basically +25% magic find from Insight some of tose runs are +25% with 100% is sometimes 125% etc

[@jake9705]

When are we going to see that Uber run using all the keys you collected? Also, another commenter mentioned in a previous video that the true best MF/rune spot is a room of unique skeletons on the way to Nilathak or something? Would love to see if he was right by testing 1000 runs there.

[@zarfen]

Sorry to disappoint you but I did the Uber runs with those keys already, and it was a big mess and I didn’t like the way it played out so I scrapped the recording and never made a video out of it. I want to make a “torch from scratch”-video though so hopefully in the future. The only comment that comes to mind was a guy who did pindle runs and then ran all the way to Nihlatak, killing my all monsters on the way and finding some good runes. I am not a big fan of the halls so it’s not something I’m looking to do at the moment. More 1000 run vids on the way though. Thanks for the input 🙂

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

250-350 is my usual go-to.

[@ashiagefa646]

the sorceress standing animation kind of looks like CJ, but im getting off topic

[@TheTerspet]

you said you done these tests in single player, i am a relative newb to d2r, can i still craft runewords like enigma while playing singleplayer? because i mostly only have time while at work to game (yes homer simpson job) and if i have to go afk it would be so much better to just pause

[@jeffsaffron5647]

Very nice video... it is never worth it to sacrifice kill speed for more MF. Especially because MF only affects if the given base rolls magic/rare/set/unique. It does not affect what kind of base drops or rune drops. That's why doing more kills over given time is always more beneficial.

[@zarfen]

Thank you! Yes exactly. If you want to find a Griffon’s (like I do…), you have to find a lot of diadems and that requires a lot of drops. part of why I did this test was to convince myself to not sacrifice too much speed for high mf😅

[@jeffsaffron5647]

Yea for that its probably best to just have Horker Barb and spam Pindleskin or Thresh Socket. Both being at about 1 : 25000 with ~350 MF. It can be done with budget gear with little issues.

[@TheZachatree]

When I find rare uniques that are great like shanks on sp, I compare it with the others I have and then keep the better roll. Once I have 3 perfects I pick up, Id and drop it.

[@zarfen]

That's reasonable. Even 3 is more than you should really ever need in SP. Though it is nice to not have to "look" for your shakos on you other characters when you need them :)

[@smug8461]

I've been scrolling through the comments trying to find it, but what is that blue GC in your inventory for the first few runs. Is that just a video glitch, or is that a new unique im missing out on?

[@zarfen]

In resurrected there are new unique grand charms called “sunder” charms. Basically they break monster immunities but give your character a massive -% resistance to the same element. I’m wearing the cold sunder charm in the video which is of course unnecessary since mephisto is not immune

[@jcleduc3009]

am curious what is the return in item quality vs magic find from these runs. quantity is nice but quality is better !

[@zarfen]

Magic find does not influence what kind of items that drop, only makes them more likely to be magic, rare, set, and unique.

[@arthuralfaro9886]

Does this apply to online game as well? sisnce you mentioned that it was SP what you were doing... let me know plz :)

[@zarfen]

Yes! I did not change the player setting or anything, so it’s the same as if you would do solo games online

[@WooliteMammoth]

Would be cool to see how long the runs took (on average) as a result of decreasing kill power too.

[@zarfen]

That was the plan at first, but I didn’t have the gear to make it “realistic”. For example, 0%mf setup had lower damage than the 100%mf setup because I don’t have a good sorc weapon without mf like deaths fathom or Hoto. But I agree it would have added good info to the tests!

[@WooliteMammoth]

@@zarfen fair, but even a spirit and FCR rings would've been better than suicide branch lol

[@zarfen]

@WooliteMammoth haha yeah, I could have done much better with some more planning. I wasn’t even wearing any rings for the first 100 runs 😁

[@ivanpetrov-bg1zl]

great video. i love this game. if they accept and make it like pd2 with corruptions definitely it will be best game.coruptions are so great. gives totally new to the game

[@zarfen]

Thanks! 🙂 I have played pd2 for a season some years ago and I agree that the corruption mechanic adds a lot to the magic find end game.

[@ivanpetrov-bg1zl]

@@zarfen also more variations on builds,more socets,splash dmg .

[@rodrigofreitas1316]

Speed runs with high damage and 0% mf is the best thing, but you need to be on high density areas

[@alexdenton9176]

The drop rate is one of the things I hate most about D2R. I almost *never* find anything good, or if it's ok then it's not for my character's class. I've literally NEVER found a rune above Ko, and only saw that drop ONCE. I reached Travincal on Hell difficulty with my Fury druid but had to give up playing legit as the council were just unbeatable. They'd kill my merc, heal them themselves constantly and were so fast I couldn't kite them away from one another... absolutely impossible without the god gear I cheated to build using hacked save files. I now use Breath of the Dying and Chains of Honour, with a number of L20 paladin aura charms. The fact that the Worldstone Keep and Baal's minions were STILL a challenge for my hacked build proved to me that I never could have beaten the game legitimately, the amount of enemies and damage dealt was just insane. It took me, my merc and all my summons TEN MINUTES to hack through a physically immune Lister the Tormentor, and of course, I got diddly squat in loot from killing Baal. D2R's difficulty curve is analogous to the dating market as you age... it starts out easy and fun, you hold out for something good, then by the time you've been playing the game for hundreds of hours you realise it's fundamentally unwinnable and you either have to quit it or cheat, then quit anyway.

[@nickm3861]

I like to find rares and magic items and avoid unique/set. Wondering how many rare/magic you found but you probably didn't record those results?

[@zarfen]

I didin’t, but when I put together the data sheet at the end I knew I should have done it!

[@nickm3861]

@@zarfen haha, next time you'll remember. There is always some nerd wants more stats.

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

Can you make a video with 1005% blizzard mf with level 99 skullders and see what drops (only 40%fcr)

[@dario9962]

Thank you. This helped me a lot.

[@miothan]

250% mf does seem to be a sweet-spot

[@Sauspreme]

Does MF affect the quality of drops? Not the rng rolls, but like are unique drops more likely to be rarer uniques with more MF? Or does it just affect amount of drops being uniques

[@zarfen]

No, just increases the chance that the items that drop are unique

[@Sauspreme]

@@zarfen interesting! good to know! Great channel/videos BTW

[@noahblaine1901]

I did two mephisto runs just now on POD cuz was testing ice blast/freezing pulse ttk. I got 3 sets (tal rashas crest, angelic mantle, sazabi's mental sheath), and 1 viperfork. 284% mf btw

[@insane671]

I've never found a Stormshield 😢

[@shawmeck9323]

Never compromise your speed and killing ability for MF. It's more fun to move around quickly and kill stuff fast than to dedicate time to killing one monster over and over. Also, you get more chances are Runes popping from more kills.

[@zarfen]

I think it’s fun to find and identify items, so I would say it depends on how you like to play the game 🙂

[@chacky4krsma]

If my calculations are right, there are a few mf points you may safe for other stats, but in general it doesn´t make much sense to max out magic find or waste to much time into calculations, if you just want to have fun. If you would like to go all in - it would be important to find the best mathematician around who would just write down your findings and starting to do crazy calculations on runspeed & turnover. Every time you basically change one single item of your equipment your performance is influenced. So, if you want to MF start with the angelic set, Tal Rashas, but try never lose too much damage output.

[@sethciu]

what /Player did you made that video ?

[@zarfen]

default / players 1

[@sebastianandra7458]

What players number was this? Or was it online?

[@zarfen]

It was offline but all done on players 1

[@ManchmalGaming]

From my experience without counting anything above 200% MF does very little so I try to keep it around there.

[@Krezo200]

I never found a shako in my life

[@zarfen]

:( Hope one drops soon!

[@Krezo200]

thanks mate! im playing solo selffound since october looking to find shako, dracs, occu and some hrs :)@@zarfen

[@yanliechocki]

I have more shakos them chars. Yeah, I don't pick them anymore. Actually, I don't even use this item lol (barb is Arreats, paly is dream, Zon is griffon, druid is+5nado and necro is a rare circlet)

[@zarfen]

Yeah I guess a lot of characters eventually graduate from their shako a to better items, too! Don’t you even pick them up just to check the defense?

[@HYEOL]

Thanks

[@Forsparda]

I'm surprised you didn't just hack in 3 charms to give you the magic find you need err assuming your in single player

[@leleyum]

was this done on p1?

[@zarfen]

Yes, all runs were p1

[@dhong168]

I actually would like to know your rune drops in these runes. I want to know for sure that MF does not affect rune drops.

[@zarfen]

Hehe I didn’t take note of that but it was very few.

[@WooliteMammoth]

We already know for sure it doesn't.

[@shakeweller]

Sounds weird but running meph in single player means you can use a frenzy barb to run it and switch to double Gull dagger at 1% hp which is free 200% mf. Its probably the easiest and cheapest way to mf farm because a budget sorc kills meph slower and since you can reset maps teleport is less op in general

[@zarfen]

I can totally see that and I’ve been wanting to do “gearing up a melee barb” video running mephisto only.

[@shakeweller]

will be a pain without lawbringer, but good luck friend :)@@zarfen

[@zarfen]

@shakeweller I’ll do some testing beforehand but I would be starting the project with some low-mid runewords and other easy-to-get gear. I’ll keep it as budget as possible, but if it’s too painful without a lawbringer I’ll use a lawbringer 🙂

[@Konrad111111]

I think it’s not really necessary to make MF any priority in your build. If I have 0 I’m ok with that. I rather have my character be stronger.

[@zarfen]

I agree it’s not necessary, but it depends on how you like to play the game. I like finding rare and unique items 🙂

[@Konrad111111]

@@zarfen exactly :-)

[@DNGR369]

Zarfen you ignore what's right in front of you. The QUALITY of drops went through the roof in the higher MF % and the worst drop there were the best achievable drops in your low MF runs. I hate when the internet just copies what each other says

[@zarfen]

You’re seeing things that aren’t there in the randomness of drops. More uniques also means more good uniques on average. What if I found 3 blue spiderweb sashes with 0%mf, but they just didn’t roll to upgrade to unique because of the low MF?

[@pauljohnson1382]

20 years 150-400 mf and had to trade for 99% of anything useful. Two days at 30mf and the chest is full plus for some reason got 4 hrs which is more than i got in the last 3 years (yes i know mf doesnt affect rune drops). Mf is bullshit, all im saying.

[@eserxxx3211]

300-350% magick find is optimal for good drop , 500% its to much and dont worth it , beter make more runs with good dmg than use 500mf and low dmg

[@zarfen]

I agree but it depends a lot on how good your gear is, and to some extent what character you’re playing

[@eserxxx3211]

@@zarfen any character having 500mf is less stronger than 300mf ,beter make 5 runs with 300mf than 2 run with 500mf in same time periud

[@zarfen]

@@eserxxx3211 That wasn't my point. I meant that some characters have easier access to MF than others. Sorcs for example - a lot of really good sorceress gear comes with built-in MF. Saying you can do 5 runs with 300%mf compared to only 2 runs with 500%mf in the same time period is a huge over-exaggeration.

[@johanw6137]

I had 21 mf on my necro found wt 50 in cowlvl LUL

[@zarfen]

D2 rng man! 😆 I’ve never had a pair of 50% WTs ever in d2/d2r, nice find!

[@pozytywniezakrecony151]

Waiting for D2R promo zzzz

[@Namo-xx1sz]

100? that's not even close from enough to start removing "rng" haha and mf curb is known for 20+years

[@Orion-rl7js]

Are you adding 7 players to these runs? I feel that youtube content with people doing magic find really don't show the slog in looking for loot. Most just play single player and up the players to max artificially. It's not an accurate representation of playing online single player.

[@zarfen]

No, all runs were on players 1…

[@jebadaiah1228]

I run 600+ mf its nice

[@zarfen]

I mean if you have the gear, go for it! 😁

[@asdfasdfasdf4746]

the most repititious game in history lol. Beating it once was enough for me. I dont know how you people do thousands of runs lol

[@noteveryday]

I dont why this format of video is so damn entertaining...I watch every one of them. I barley even play D2. I guess I played it enough to understand how good some drops are.

[@sabin97]

because of the maths.

[@LeeCoins]

Im a hoarder, so finding even trash uniques is fun in single player. I end up with so many copies of runewords in weird worthless bases, because its what i needed at the time. I should also mention i play hardcore, so saving everything is also inherent in the playstyle, you never know when youre going to lose everything, so saving stuff that got you through the early game can really speed up releveling. The hardest part is managing all of the inventory, if diablo released a paid stash option like path of exile they would have trouble with all the money id be throwing at them. I have so many mules full of what would absolutely be considered garbage, but to me its the whole game. Kill stuff, stash loot. 😅

[@zarfen]

I think that definitely has merit in HC! I'm also hopeless in hoarding, especially low-mid level items that I will never use... I was so hyped for the shared stash system when Resurrected was revealed, but that quickly became way too little so now I have 10 level 1 barbarians filled with items too 😅 I agree 100% though, the loot is why I still play this game.

[@LeeCoins]

@zarfen I would recommend HC. While dying is a huge blow and definitely can hurt, it makes every encounter more meaningful and every decision more impactful. You even look at some of the items differently because it changes the dynamic and focus from power, to a blend of power and defense. Nothing quite like the feeling of finding an item that helps you improve your build, only to die a few runs later.

[@zarfen]

@@LeeCoins I'll probably dabble in HC at some point. Right now while I've been focusing on the loot videos, it doesn't make much sense to me, but if I do more of a playthrough or challenge video, I would probably do HC. Or just for "fun" while not recording. I see the appeal for sure :)

[@LeeCoins]

@@zarfen just make sure you compile all of your death reactions into a video. Those are great. Maybe do a dank loot death video. Give em some highs and then give em some lows. Comedy gold mine somewhere in there.

[@zarfen]

@@LeeCoins haha I’ll definitely do that!

[@BTHDreamer]

Great video man! I love how you put this together. Nice to see real world of these stats put into work.

[@zarfen]

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

[@Potent_Techmology]

@@zarfen please add the amount of real time it takes to complete each set of runs + average time per run if you can!

[@HomemadePyroQuebec]

Farming Inside Mephisto's $49 Million Mansion

[@bobby4500]

so 200-250 is enough mf

[@giovannicatamo6348]

Ive been playing single player for over a year. Ive found just about everything including Stone of Jordan, Tyreals might, Griffons and a Zod rune. Ive found numerous spiderwebs. I havent however found a Shako (that wasnt etheral), a Hoz, maras or highlords.

[@zarfen]

Not finding shako or highlords but all that other stuff is CRAZY 🤯 D2 rng is truly rng

[@Purriah]

Aim for lower level areas if you want HoZ. Hell Mephisto is the guy for the level 42 class uniques

[@giovannicatamo6348]

@Purriah I farmed hell meph for months when I first started. I got everything else she can drop , ain't worth it for 1 item when there are alternatives.

[@NeoN-PeoN]

On Ribcracker, does the 100% enhanced defense mean it doubles the Ribcracker's defense to 200? Or does it double your entire character's defense?

[@Dunkelelf3]

it doubles the characters defense but it's a pretty worthless item unless you find it ethereal. and then it's only really useful on shifter druids cause they can zod it and up it to a stalagmite which will reduce the weapon speed but increase damage. this drawback is somewhat compensated by the form. in this rare build and case it's a bloody good item really but as said it needs to be ethereal.

[@LuketheGamerDuke]

Great video! I’m mostly impressed with the fact you were able to hit 500% EXACTLY lol. Something I think I’ve noticed during my limited MF experiments is: the higher MF seems to have more of an affect on the higher tier (Exquisite/Elite) equipment.

[@zarfen]

Glad you liked it! Getting even MF numbers took some planning, but with a variety of small charms of with different Mf it was not too hard. MF only affects rarity (magic, rare, set, unique) but I’m aware it looks like it gives better items based on my finds in the video.

[@dave-kt7sj]

@@zarfen I would venture to say that the base item would be similar across all 4 sets of data in terms of base/excep/elite item quantities.

[@zarfen]

If you were tuning in to the live premiere, the live chat ended before I could respond to the last few live chat messages... Thanks for tuning in, it was fun chatting with you, and I hope to do this "premiere" thing again 😄

[@Ohmjones]

Do you mind doing a video on these MF numbers doing full clears of durance/mephisto? Chests, Breakables, Council, etc?

[@reidgk]

Did you say cellphone players? How are you playing d2 on cellphone please tell me!!!!

[@PSXMicha]

You found more with 0 MF in 100 runs then I find with 300 MF in 300 runs 😂

[@bertramgaming5671]

A wise man once said (Regular Schmuck) You can never have enough GREEN HATS.

[@NonnyStrikes]

I had someone get angry and start yelling at me when we had a discussion about this, I resolved it fairly quickly though. Challenged him to a 2 hour session. He could wear anything he wanted as long as it was parallel to his claims; which were... More mf = more items. (he doesn't know about the actual code/mechanics.) He took the challenge and we were off. He had 430 mf on his barb, which was a horker to boot. I had 123? I think. Might have been less. Each one of his pit runs took roughly (4:30) to complete. My runs took (1:22) almost every time, depending on location/density. In the end, I had 4 high runes. Vex, lo, sur, cham. Along with SKullders, vamp gaze, arac mesh, and maras. (best of the finds, pretty damn good) He had 1 mid rune (pul) arach mesh, and a eth ribcracker that rolled lowest % ha. You make the final verdict. My mindset has always been speed > MF. If you can't fly through the content, you might as well be in a game soaking exp at the same time via p3+

[@razetw]

It's hard to put away your mf gear for faster clear speed. But faster clear speed leads to more find numbers faster in the long run. I think ~ %200 is easy to wear for a casual player and good enough unless you're trying to minmax your gear.

[@zarfen]

Part of why I wanted to make this vid/test was just to convince myself to not chase higher and higher mf% too hard at the cost of speed

[@Mord314]

I swear I've done 2k runs on my solo sorc and I've yet to find; shako, (non-eth) viper :(, arachnid, occy, travs. I did find my first ever self found soj and I lucked out and was actually able to defeat Diablo with my somewhat budget smiter (he's got a perfect HoZ, but rolling with an atlantean and treachery) I did manage to find a near perfect eschutas, which will be cool when I'm able to take full advantage of it (res pretty bad & don't have infinity)

[@69runner_j]

I preffer faster clear speed at 8p mf Split games. The only mf gear i use is enigma and it works good enough for me because the games Most expensive items arent uniqus anyway. Hr Drops dont need mf aswell and i get a lot of them.

[@gerrylee8304]

Great Job. Surprisingly the quality of the unique items has been sooo good at 500 mf 😮 Cool video and very helpful. Thx

[@zarfen]

Thanks! Glad you liked it. Yeah the distribution of good items was pretty random!

[@mauriciomove]

Appreciate the dedication on this

[@kosterix123]

i'd like to see the pseudo code for this MF and whoever came up with this misnomer, it should be called Loot quality or something.

[@jacechan5499]

so for ladder starter. just hit 100 MF by any mean nesscrary , then you can slowly improve to 200-250% MF and chill at that? 250 MF doesn't seem like a big improvement to 100 MF tho like less than 30% for that many extra item slots used for more MF instead of kill speed?

[@eol5417]

Thanks for the work man!

[@hristogeorgiev3453]

91 sorc 360mf still haven't found shako. I also have 75 summon Necro 120mf. No shako. 84 lvl smiter 20mf no shako too. Farming mephisto and occasionally terror zones with the sorc.

[@plummet3860]

meanwhile i get blues and normal set items with 450% mf i did 250 meph runs yesterday and got nothing

[@dave-kt7sj]

Interesting how little magic find actually helps set items due to the number of failed set items.

[@reggenerator8]

what would you do with that ribcracker?

[@user-xy6rn1eb1f]

Wow I can't even defeat nightmare andariel with barb

[@Merkthesherksensei]

shako and a few others are satisfying to find for me even when i play solo

[@64jcl]

What is striking is that it seems to improve the Unique find more than the sets after 100% - but this could be just a consequence of a smaller sample of 100 runs?

[@zarfen]

Not sure! But one thing that struck me is how many more uniques than sets there are, so even if sets are a “more common” roll, a lot of items simply can’t roll as sets so I ended up finding fewer than I thought I would before doing the runs.

[@heikowassermabn9735]

Macht kein sinn weil Ringe amus und runen nicht von mf gezählt werden. Ist auch Normal bei mepf das auch Uniques droppen macht kein unterschied

[@user-bh9yk2wv4w]

You are so lucky I literally find nothing

[@Mp57navy]

Afaik, the magic find only influences the items rarity, not the amount of items. Let's assume a mob will always drop 5 items. Your MF only determines what rarity those 5 will drop.

[@zarfen]

Yes, that is correct!

[@kristopherleslie8343]

You know you love paladins 😂❤

[@mdakop4940]

Dont forget that is all about the speed kill ! Not mf !

[@PainfullySubjective]

very helpful & informative video

[@Mechtroop]

Nice data! Another data point I think would be useful is average clear speed for each of the three %. I know higher MF = slower clears, but I think putting numbers to it would be cool. BTW, RNGesus has been good to you my friend. Lotta good drops. My many Meph runs haven’t produced what you have.

[@zarfen]

Thanks! Yeah that would have been great info, but I didn’t have the gear to make good setups for each mf%. If I redo this experiment I’ll definitely plan the gear better to include that data.

[@xijinpig7978]

higher MF only hurts you if you are doing greater than P1. For P1, just go what ever amount of MF you can stack, stuff will still die.. if you cant kill because you are missing some +1 to skill, you suck balls Its P1 for crying out loud.

[@zmdeadelius]

Excellent video. Very interesting to see the diminishing returns of MF put into a real world example.

[@Zaphitos]

A little OT, but watching this video and feeling like "wow, that's interesting loot" or "uh, that MF-stuff is something I could optimize" is a feeling that I never had in D4. Lack of interesting items/systems....

[@zarfen]

This is EXACTLY my problem with itemization/gear in Diablo 3/4. There's just 1 thing to optimize for (character power/clear speed) which makes gearing much less interesting. Balancing MF vs clear speed adds "difficult" decisions to make, and people still discuss MF vs clear speed after all these years.