Log Hammers Recovered! 120 Year Old Logging Camp Lost Relics

Log Hammers Recovered! 120 Year Old Logging Camp Lost Relics | Metal Detecting Sudbury - Ontario

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@fasteddy917 Жыл бұрын

Just came across your channel. First rate video as well. I can clear up some of your finds uses. My Dad was born in Kenora, Ontario in 1906 to a logging industry family. My maternal great grandfather was the secretary treasurer of the Rat Portage Lumber Co. and my paternal grandfather owned a wholesale lumber business. My dad and uncles were wholesale lumber dealers and owned a saw mill/planing mill during WW2 to supply lumber to their business. They left the business in the mid 50's as plywood was used more and more. The branding hammer was used to mark logs before they were send down the river in the spring thaw. The logs were struck on the ends with the hammer and the brand would follow up the log so no one could cut a bit off the end if they were found after the run and be rebranded. The brand would run for a few feet so cutting the end off didn't help. You would be left with fire wood lengths by the time the brand ran out. Many logging companies ran their logs together so they were branded so the saw mill could credit the proper companies when the log scalers measured the logs in the yard or when they came out of the log retention pond. After the logs were sawn the brand wasn't visible. The axes were always called single or double bitted by my family as has been mentioned. I'm 80 years old and my some of my earliest memories include watching the men go up the dirt road past my grandmothers cottage to go into the camp standing on a stone boat drawn by a single or double team of horses with cases of old whiskey bottle full of kerosene with a hook on the top so they could hook the bottles on their belts. They used the kerosene to lubricate their cross cut saws when they were cutting down pine or other coniferous trees. The pitch would gum up the blades as they heated up from being drawn through the tree as they were cut. Many of the companies had a shed where saw filers would sharpen and set the teeth on the previous days saws. They had two sets of saws so they could be rotated when used. A lot of the time it may have been in the blacksmiths shop and the black smith could repair them if needed. In the spring we'd watch the fellas ride the logs as they cleared out the log jams when they formed. My dad said he saw his first chain saw in 1948 when he visited the property where they cut the logs from and he heard a strange noise. Ontario Hydro was cutting a path for their towers and dad was told tough luck when he asked who gave them permission to destroy so much of the forest and toss the logs aside. They didn't need anyone's permission because they were Ontario Hydro. The chain saws were imported from Germany after the war. Sorry to eat so much of your channel space but as I get older I realize that what I saw will be lost if I don't tell people who never had a chance to see it themselves.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Man, that's an awesome story and some great info! Thank you very much for sharing that with us! Also really glad you enjoyed the video too! We have quite a few more of these sites to visit, hope to see you back on new uploads!

@fasteddy917 Жыл бұрын

@@Adventurous4Life Thank you for giving me the chance to tell you what I've seen. Not to be repeated like that again with different and more modern methods. There was a question about the glass you found turning purple. Manganese was used to clarify the glass up until 1914/1915. Germany's colony in Africa was the source for the manganese and when WW1 started the ability to obtain the manganese ended and they went to other methods to do the clarifying. You can be fairly certain if glass is turning colour it's before this time. I'll be looking forward to new videos and to seeing what you already have on KZbin. Thank you for the videos.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

@@fasteddy917 yep! Finding manganese glass is a great way to easily identify an age of a site! We do it all the time. This site had manganese glass and tooled bottle shards, so we placed the site around 1910! 😄

@jamesmarshalla8565 Жыл бұрын

Those hammers were a great score for the both of you guys! Thanks Adam and Jay, appreciate the adventure in the snow and rain finding all those ax heads!

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!! 😄😄 We were both absolutely soaked by the end of the day lol! We had extra cloths in the car we had to change into! The rain all day also turned the back road into an ice rink too. Was an interesting drive out as well 😄😄

@billstolz9587 Жыл бұрын

Crosscut saws look cool painted with country scenery

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Ive seen different ones painted up like that! They do look pretty sweet. My art skills definitely arent up to that challenge lol!! 😄

@christopher3963 Жыл бұрын

12:53 looks like a grease gun 14:16 is a forged hinge that would have been driven into a door frame, probably from the stables. That monkey wrench hammer is epic!

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info! 😄😄 Always nice when somone can identify somthing! Still learning the items at these camps! And definitely agree, that hammer is sweet!!

@SaltwaterSean 11 ай бұрын

Great work!

@Adventurous4Life 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Was a fun adventure! Lets hope for an early spring to be able to get out sooner 😄😄

@jerrysadventures8952 Жыл бұрын

awesome adventure today thanks guys

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the adventure! Was quite wet but really fun 😄😄

@cynthiaswearingen1037 Жыл бұрын

Those log hammers are very cool! And I love the old hook-thingamabobbers. Sweet old iron finds!❤

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

They are super cool!! We got a bunch of spots mapped out to go this spring and fall, lets hope we can find some more awesome relics! Should be a fun time! 😄😄

@kepvalley Жыл бұрын

Great stuff left behind at those old lumber camp sites! Super sweet stamp hammers and quite a rare and unique find! Some pretty wild saws! I’ll bet they’d still cut pretty well. The colder north seems to preserve stuff fairly well. Some awesome older bottle finds and very neat pre-Eclectric Oil med bottle! Lots of nice iron finds, especially the axe heads! Jay is just like my son in hauling out all his body can handle to carry!🤣

@Jim-z8j Жыл бұрын

It's interesting seeing you dig old logging camps. And uncovering the log hammers. Around here the hammers didn't have the company name. Each lumberman had his own brand number or letter. It is known that at times another lumberman would cut off the end of the log and restamp it with his brand. I have been digging logging camp since 1972 and have found 40 log hammers. The most common find here are axe heads, log chains, and stove parts. Great video you guys have. A lot more interesting then digging for coins.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

I dont think there's much of logging camp exploring on youtube, seems to be a popular topic though 😄😄 We are learning a new hobby now lol, i feel outa my element a bit. At least till bottles show up lol! As for Jay... ya... he trys to carry out literally hundreds of pounds of stuff.... No thanks lol. He ends up dying half way out 😄😄 But if it's to far of a walk he takes more moderate amount lol! These places are quite fun to go to though. Actually bought myself a better entry level detector a Garrett 250? I think lol. Not that it needs to be good, just looking for iron lol. 0 discrimination. I think logging camps are the only places you wanna find iron 😄😄

@Jim-z8j Жыл бұрын

@@Adventurous4Life My type of guy, that Jay is, hauling out all that iron. I;ve been there and done that, getting too old now. Less weight and shorter hiking distances for me now. Garret Ace 250 is perfect for finding iron. I've been using one for 20 years now.

@Travelling..Bottle..Digger Жыл бұрын

Some decent finds in this one

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Yes sir 😄😄 Even some bottles as well lol. There's gonna be quite a few of these adventures coming this spring lol. Still hoping we find bottles everytime we go to one lol

@barnboyjay6237 Жыл бұрын

Such a great adventure

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

It's almost like you were there!

@johnmallette3143 Жыл бұрын

Tkzz for sharing.,.,.,build an old school camp,.,.restore everything every tool wood stove ,etc,.,.relive the old days,.,.peace

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching 😄😄 we love finding anything old, clean them uo and bring them back to life!

@jsteelsadventureandvariety Жыл бұрын

pure awesomeness guys :) congrats on the very sought-after hammers! enjoyed

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Lol thanks Janson. 😄 Willy is in a popular video, we gotta get u in a semi viral video now lol! Wild stuff

@jsteelsadventureandvariety Жыл бұрын

I know! it's huge man!!!! congratulations

@stephen_north Жыл бұрын

Great finds. I love restoring old axes and saws. Keep up the great content! Love from Peterborough

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching! Great to here from people in Ontario as well! Got a lot more adventures like this planned for this year! 😄

@chrismel3789 Жыл бұрын

I’ve found several of these sites, picked up some bottles, never thought of metal detecting them.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Bottles are normally harder to find at these sites, so you're already doing good lol! Metal is the easy stuff to find 😄 Id definitely bring a metal detector with next time!

@calvindillard9819 Жыл бұрын

Ok I am a retired logger it’s called a log branding hammer or just branding hammer! And axes are double bitted or single bit axes,!

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Might be differnt terms for different areas 😄 there's guys that have wrote books on old camps of the area and refer to them different. Personally ive never hurd anyone call them double or single bit in my area. Books from here refer to hammers as log or stamp hammers. Never hurd the term branding hammer before. Different areas I guess have different terms 😄 We are also new to logging camp exploring so we are learning differnt lingo for everything as we go.

@olddave4833 Жыл бұрын

@@Adventurous4Life I spent a lot of time cutting wood 70 yrs ago and in this area they were always called single or double bitted axes, central NY

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Might be a American term then by the sounds of it 😄

@depthspader8820 Жыл бұрын

Okay, looks like this detecting is becoming a habit with you guys. Lol. I see Jay went for the Vanquish. Might have to maybe do some old mining town foundation detecting next summer. ATB 👍👍

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Hey Brad! If you're in Sudbury and im off we can try going to a more easly accessible site and do a video together. When i say easier to get to its still gonna be a bish walk. But a shorter walk... kind 😄😄 These camps have metal and bottles if u can find them lol. All we look for is iron, 0 discrimination 😄😄

@pathoodjoy Жыл бұрын

That "thing" you thought might be for putting air on a fire is a grease gun.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the ID! Somone wlse had said the same thing, so believe you're correct 😄

@christopher3963 Жыл бұрын

Is there a way to tell which Crown jars will turn purple? Im assuming the older ones with no dates

@Jim-z8j Жыл бұрын

Clear glass will not turn purple. Any bottle or jar that has a gray tint to it will turn purple. These bottles have manganese in them. You can color bottles over night with an ultraviolet light. But be carefull, you could damage your eyes with the light.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

Without seeing the difference its hard to explain. You do need an eye for it. Lots of manganese glass can have a smoky look to it. Also a light yellow tone. Oddly enough ive actually had glass with a very slight aqua green hue be manganese and turn purple! Without seeing the differnt types of glass it can be difficult to tell if it will turn!

@toddcharland2477 11 ай бұрын

The metal you found in the pan was called babbitt for pouring bearings, ,the hook with the eye in it is for driving into a log to connect to another log together to make a floating boom (pen) to hold the log s for the float, also the new guy, or boy would go with the cutters caring a small ( pint size) bottle of oil this would be poured on to the saw as the men cut the bottle some times has a S hook on the neck with one end sharpped up to push in to the tree to hold it, cutting was done in the fall and winter , then the brake up started the river pig walk

@Adventurous4Life 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for that info! We've only been exploring old camps for 1 season. So learning as we go! Appreciate it 😄

@rh5466 Жыл бұрын

Those ink bottles at the very end of the video... I wish you had have given them some attention and talked about them.

@Adventurous4Life Жыл бұрын

If you're referring to the ones in the background above the logging tools, non of thoughs bottles were found at the lumber camp we visted 😄 The clip was to just show a few of the tools found, showing thoughs inks in detail wouldn't have pertained to this video. I do have a collection video up that does show them in a bit more detail though.