01' CR500 vs. 24' CRF450r - Who is King?

[@-CHeWy-]

Old guy at work had an 85 CR500, he still talks about it today. Says the thing was just stupid. Almost killed him a few times. If you don't want a CR500, you are not a man.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

pretty sad a electric varg stomps its ass for 15 minutes lol

[@houstonhowell3618]

@@kevinragsdale6256yea I mean 14,000$ for 15 minutes of maybe stomping a cr500 totally makes it sound worth it 😂 also the rider would have to be damn good for that to actually happen.

[@BabyYoda-kr6rr]

My dad has an 87 CR500- it kinda blew up so we r rebuilding dat bitch

[@kevinragsdale6256]

@@houstonhowell3618 rider would have to be damn good to run a 500 all out too, so thats irrelevant.

[@Dirt-Tomfoolery]

85 was the most routy year too.

[@jamesobrien6855]

Yes drag race them switch the line ups and person a bit

[@billyfpv2777]

The 500 will kill a 450 in a drag race guarenteed

[@ronaldbabbitt6318]

I have the same CR500 and I had to totally change to a FMF Power core and the steel bars didn't last long either! 😅 Got an 09 KX450F Track Bike and CR500 woods weapon 🏁☠️👊

[@davidkanalos6710]

Thats a beautiful 2001 500 cr clean !!

[@Duppavich]

Excellent video mate, I really enjoyed it 👍 I have an 84 CR500 and its an animal! I'd love to see it up against the 2001

[@kabishop95]

Beautiful cr500. It'd be nice to actually see you ride it though

[@bobcheesemin]

I don't think he can drive in a straight line

[@BabyYoda-kr6rr]

The 500 chooses where it goes

[@bennetdh9566]

Less music more sound please

[@ASSETRXYZ]

Shut up stop complaining you 6 year old

[@GermyBallswell]

Exactly wtf was he thinking putting such fruity moaning music in this video. This style of video editing is absolutely crap and needs to be left in the past

[@mikeddoyle5726]

Yes both awesome bikes! But I'm old school I love the cr500. I still have my '89 cr 250 recently restored

[@bts_rcsandstuff5973]

With the right rider and setup the cr500 is definitely a winner but keyword right setup the cr500 Also needs an incredible rider that’s not afraid to ring it out and keep it on the top end the entire time like you said there both stock but if you put the crf450r suspension on with that frame and motor you’d have a beast of a bike Edit: idk what Hondas doing with their bikes but a modern 450 with a single overhead cam is ridiculous compared to the kx450 I remember riding a 2006 honda 250r with a single cam and rode a 2005 Suzuki 250 with dohc and the Suzuki was way faster and had a way better power band it’s crazy they can call that a race bike LOL also I believe it gives it low end torque but it ruined how the bike felt it just lugged the motor in the high rpm compared to the Suzuki Another edit: I know I’m just rambling but I would get a newer exhaust for that cr500 and keep the stock one safe also I couldn’t see if you had a skid plate on it but definitely don’t want a hole in that motor even if it’s super unlikely

[@foggymcfly3636]

The Honda 450 is more powerful than all or almost all other 450s lol

[@thatmodshop7160]

​@@foggymcfly3636still cannot take that 500 on its been proven multiple times already stock vs stock, 450 lazy person bike, 500 real riders man bike.

[@bts_rcsandstuff5973]

@@foggymcfly3636 actually I believe Kawasaki makes 4 more hp than the crf450r maybe fact check before commenting Edit so does the Suzuki but the Suzuki is insanely fast revving and gets peak hp at about 8800 rpm(56hp) but fall off to the Hondas hp(52) at 11000 rpm

[@HunterPetrella]

That crf 450 looks like a 2022

[@Canadian_Crf_kid]

They haven’t changed

[@ChristopherKirk-b6s]

@@Canadian_Crf_kidlol yes they have they changed the graphics in 23-24 and made it blue behind the HRC sticker

[@Idiotstryingtobeprofessionals]

Plus its more powerful

[@ParkerK127]

It’s just the the 2024 Crf450R-S bike, they put the newer HRC logos on only the newer 23-24 R models

[@HunterPetrella]

So it is a 24?

[@Texas2Step79]

Sweet bikes !! The 500 definitely the cool 😎 factor .. as an MX racer from the 90's it really brings me back to the hay days of the 2 stroke .. but at my age now I'd take the 450 just for being a bit easier to ride... but you can't lose with either ..great video bro..

[@MidwestGuy1]

you should definitely do a drag race with them to finally prove which one would be faster cause there is a lot of debate online

[@kruzharvey_]

Where do you find parts for old bikes?

[@billyfpv2777]

Two strokes are a different beast i use to race motocross on them. They will also make you a better rider where their lighter and more nimble bounce around alot and less traction to. Given the choice id take a 2 stroke every time over a 4 stroke. But thats just my opinion i grew up on them. Good looking bikes buddy.

[@Kenton-rr5vz]

Yes drag race!

[@MikeAsbury-ti2yx]

The way you ride there the same for you? I ride my 83, CR250 like a 04, CR250 because of how the i ride so compare doesn't matter to me

[@PETERNESS]

theres a reason why Honda stopped making the 500s ,they didnt sell thats it ,i worked the floor selling bikes for over 30 years and in the end we were nearly giving em away ,in the end we made the last 500s we had in the shop road legal to try and create some interest and lost money on each and every one of them ,THEN from nowhere a rumour started that they were the greatest the fastest widowmakers the holy grail etc etc etc ,truth is they were desert racers ,a 125 with a decent rider would smash a 500 on a track a 250 would eat them on enduros ,90 percent of the survivors are sittin in barns or mancaves or online for sale for ridiculous money

[@blackchameleon1760]

Can’t beat an old school buzz, 2stoke all day long

[@blanchard899]

Put a Keihin 38mm pwk airstriker in the cr500 you’ll see a difference in throttle response. It’s worth it

[@blanchard899]

I have the perfect jetting for this and the stock carb if you need it. Just need the elevation and temp you usually ride in

[@jpesicka492]

@@blanchard899i have one in my 01 CR125R and it’s the biggest upgrade. Got it from jd jetting and my mechanic used their specs

[@dune7824]

If you want to do a fair comparison, you'll have to bridge that 20 year technological gap. Get that 500 engine worked and you should have around 65-70 rwhp. The cool thing is that since these bikes are in such an anemic state of tune stock you'll still have a reliable machine with that kind of power on tap. Only thing is there won't be much point in a drag race as it'll smoke the 450 like it's standing still.

[@wyattcitizenzap4539]

hey man i hate EV but those electric dirtbikes are fast as fuck and you cant argue with that.

[@MotoXplorer159]

But boring as fuck Since there is just no sound, no vibration Just feels soul less

[@houstonhowell3618]

And they only last 15 minutes at full power

[@wyattcitizenzap4539]

@@MotoXplorer159 no it most definitely is personally id never invest in one. you cant leave one of those sitting in a field for 20 years and fix it with some cheap parts later in life. once they are dead they are probably garbage.

[@fate9735]

the 500 is king for me no matter what, you need to try and 500 in a new crf frame its crazy good, i have a 98 cr500 steel frame and also a 2021 crf450 with a 2000 cr500 engine in it and that is a whole other beast

[@STT363]

That YZ 125 is a 2001. White airbox, and especially if it has six gears

[@SPCRacing1]

Comparing bikes with over 20 years difference in age? 🤔 I think the best comparison would be between a 2024 KTM 300 2 stroke and a 1988 Honda XR250.

[@robertsewell3538]

hell yea!!nice vid.

[@robrobert2141]

Cr 500 all day

[@NiktWażnyDlaCiebie]

Ima 2 Stroke guy cuz of the sound it makes(also bc of the power)

[@ASSETRXYZ]

you… you know 4 strokes have more power right

[@NiktWażnyDlaCiebie]

@@ASSETRXYZ Depends. 125cc? 2 Stroke 250cc? 4Stroke

[@thatmodshop7160]

​@@ASSETRXYZHow long did it take 4 stroke to compete with the 500? 500 still takes on 450 without a thought track, bush, dunes there are many open events allover the world and KZbin alone proves that it's all in the rider. 4 strokes are lazy person bike, only skilled men can take on 500 but nobody can or will ever tame a 500.

[@sneepsnoop3149]

Wym by the yz is a 01 or 02

[@michaelmays9292]

The 1985 cr500 and 1986 was the bike to have

[@farmerdann]

Drag race!!!!!!!!

[@trip6071]

Do a drag race I want to see that big

[@kolegibson1723]

You should get a Cr 500 AF conversion bike then compare it to the Crf 450r

[@kevinragsdale6256]

so compare a build 500 to a stock 450?

[@kolegibson1723]

@@kevinragsdale6256 I’m talking about a modern Crf 450 but with a CR 500 engine in it , (AF stands for aluminum frame ) and comparing it to a Crf 450 so that everything is the same except for the engine

[@patrickrobinson1595]

Bro! I was thinking u was going to race them🤷... Make it happen 😉....

[@wexcrjake2955]

Dang I'm jealous of your toys. Although, i gotta say, the '05 Kaw is my favorite.

[@propacollector3499]

cr500 hate 4 strokes hate eltric bikes as well

[@mjrybread]

Did you ever give away a free bike?

[@Atomized.]

Should get a fmf for that 500

[@davidkanalos6710]

Kc outdoors! Love to bow hunting big bucks !

[@ShauneTorres-xi3fv]

You have to compete the 2024 Cr500 and you’re 2001 Cr500

[@Canadian_Crf_kid]

Your kidding right

[@thatmodshop7160]

It's been done allover the world and the 500 still takes the winning title. You get a good rider on one and there's no comparison. It's allover the world and KZbin alone proves it.

[@santaprimereal]

this man with the 500 goes slower than my 10yo lil brother with an 85cc

[@billallen4793]

I grew up trying to kill myself on those Honda 500's, I still miss them! 2nd and 3rd gear starts, were the standard, 4th gear starts were for being pissed off on thick dirt starts! Not recommended, i still feel these things on cold mornings!..lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 👋🤠

[@charlesphilips2920]

reasons wgy ign is old not 00cr ign for higher rev also the 500 still walks most everything in a af like mine

[@dennismillus4581]

Have you ever research exactly what your doing. Before you did this video? Cuz if you did you wouldn't waist your time. The CR500 is 🤴 for a reason

[@BubbaX]

I was thinking the same thing it’s no qeustion

[@BubbaX]

The only oil better than amsoil dominater is the klots r34

[@SBudde]

Nothing is better than the cr500 period....... I won more hill climbs than anyone riding one. Braap 👍👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸

[@danmandorca8390]

I don’t have a CR 500 only rode one of them in my life and it was scary as shit I do have a YZ 252 stroke and it’s a beast but I also have rode the 450s hola Miller M easy ride faster but I still love the two strokes better the fun factor

[@charlesphilips2920]

but that stock pipe is worth alot never get rid

[@BradyCarver-g7m]

steel frames arent heavier than aluminum frames.

[@PurpleMonkeyWaffle]

Klots R50 is same quality as Amsoil dominator maybe even better.

[@lucas-gm9eg]

Jet fuel in the CR500??

[@Kenton-rr5vz]

Hell no, those are way to rare to do that and to find someone to rebuild those is impossible

[@mbvjg4217]

@@Kenton-rr5vz to find someone to rebuild them? bruh its just a normal engine like any other

[@peacefulwarrior4078]

CR-500 has approximately 25% MORE TORQUE then a CRF-450 CR-500 BEST MOTOCROSS ENGINE EVER MADE 😎💪👍

[@TheKxcr500]

Cr500 all day long. 🏁💯💪😎

[@tf841]

Lucas oil works great!

[@duskycotw8404]

motul > lucas/amsoil

[@Altie8]

noice

[@Hazzy162]

Drag race😊

[@mikeslife5941]

Both are king I need both 😂😂😂 Honda is king.

[@matisvanasse5905]

2 Stroke all the way

[@2wheelfox]

Put the Cr500 motor in the 450 frame and have the perfect bike

[@thatmodshop7160]

Honda purposely did not do this for many reasons. The only person that has successfully done this and that should ever be able to do this is the professional king and legend himself AJ Wagoneer. His frame world is the only one I've seen it crack or break/death rattle apart. That man has perfected on how to do this. Still however the 500 was built and meant for a steel frame, ergonomics and strength. You're idea and comment is definitely great but to many people hack bikes up and do it wrong and hurt not only themselves but others doing this improperly lol

[@jared8324]

Put 2024 technology into the cr500 and see what happens…

[@JoeBordok]

can't compare dumb EV bikes to these 2 legends right here !!!

[@AlexGood-h1x]

That’s a 2023 crf450 I think not 24

[@derrickbasenberg811]

500 all day

[@jfish6925]

I grew up in the 2S era and 500s are so overrated. They suck at Moto and the manufacturers only kept them around for desert racing. Even In the late 80s the 250s were way faster on a track. For the record I rode a 125.

[@thatmodshop7160]

Good channel, but its been proven on many KZbin channels and open events to this day 500 still takes on 450 without a problem. 450 had to come a very long way to even keep up with 500 should tell you everything. I'm leaving my personal hatred towards 4 jokes out of this, yes they are heavier, more to go wrong and sound like a wet fart but they have come a very long way to compete with the 500 but still with efi they do not take on a 500. A 450 is lazy programmed that lits of intermediate riders can just get on and go. A 500 is all skilled rider, you have to know and be able to do so much more on a 500. I respect 500 and no one person can or will tame that beast.

[@trip6071]

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[@Backwoods145]

Not a fan of the 4 strokes at all unless its in the XR line of bikes.. wont get a better built, longer lasting bike than a honda XR.. now on to the main event.. 4 strokes cost more, weigh more, cost even more to rebuild an lacks the torque of the 2stroke.. however will last longer than a 2stroke if just trail riding an occasional racing.. average 450 power is around 45hp an takes a lot of work and money to get one to 50 without blowing it up but will be less dependable an wont last as long... Now on to the 2 strokes.. They weigh less, have more power, cost less to fix.. but require actual skill to ride at speed for racing.. the big bore bikes last longer because you cannot ride them at there potential! Unless your Ricky Johnson or Jeff Ward or Jean Michelle Bale you will never rag a big bore out! Vs the 4 strokes! You will stay in the power all the time to get the same torque an power as the 2stroke.. an you can go fast on a 500, but you will respect her or she will bury you! Even with the new technology of the 4's they still fail in comparison to the 2stroke bikes.. yamaha and ktm 2 stroke 250's will still hang with a 450 if not still out run em.. so that should tell you all you need to know.. but ask all the new kids on the block about takin a ride on a 2 stroke! Whether a 250 or 500 an im talking professional riders, like jett an several others that nearly pissed their pants, after they got off of em with legs trembling! In other words ya gotta be a man to ride 2 strokes.. an a lazy rider to ride the fours! Look at carson brown, an some of the fastest riders out today! They all love an ride 2 strokes! Ricky Carmichael, Jeremy McGrath, Jeff Stanton, Jeff Ward, Guy Cooper, an many more! those are the men who made racing what it is today, all rode 2 strokes.. there's a reason they were kings of super an outdoor motocross.. an its all because of the strokes! An the biggest an longest record jumps to date were done with a 2stroke.. Long live the 2 stroke!!!❤❤❤❤😊

[@blaze-979]

U should have went to rush and made a video

[@tommypetrie21]

Simply put... the man would have to ride the 500 and you would have to let your woman ride the 450. Who could argue with that?

[@lawrencemacdonald-yz4vn]

Amsoil the classic pyramid scam

[@NoahKnel-Sharp]

cr 500

[@thelastrebelshow1627]

Everything was better 20 to thirty years ago.

[@Fiat20vt]

I thot all bike are fast until I got Ktm 450sf 4 speed thn I was fying 😂am ktm till I sit on something faster yet to happen

[@juliancaruso4528]

Hey!😀

[@19Jharris]

I was hoping there was a track involved 500 all day long - imagine if they kept making them ? #fuckcalifornia #fuckama #fuckyamaha #

[@GreyCat-qd6yi]

a steel frame is 7 lbs more, eat less carbs

[@lawrencemacdonald-yz4vn]

Electric is coming

[@six4standingtall]

I wore my volume up button out only for tecno to get louder

[@davecorning4321]

4 strokes suck .

[@JefUitdebroek-m6o]

not even a question a 85 is even better on a track than a 450