023 - The Soviet Hammer Strikes Hard at Finland - WW2 - February 2 1940

[@WorldWarTwo]

Hey all! Before we start: Eastory who does our maps has a *new video* out on his own channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHKcgnV-edmZebM (Has spoilers in it ;-) And here, the Winter War continues as Germany and Britain both plan to invade Norway and Churchill has plans of his own. While all of our content is free for anyone to see, our Patreon supporters get to see our Weekly episodes three days in advance! In those days, we'll have some time to answer their comments and give our community some exclusive attention. Besides that it's nice to get your comment answered and to see our content a little earlier, what is more important is that you'll be helping us make this show. We're still miles away from a stable and organized, well-oiled production workflow. Your support truly helps us to improve and to make more video's. Take a look on our Patreon Page (www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory) or on timeghost.tv. Cheers, Joram *PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT:* *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban. Thanks for reading. Comment away!

[@kstreet7438]

World War Two the maps are always amazing

[@titogonewild1993]

I've been waiting for his new video for like 6 months, so happy with the collaboration

[@Valdagast]

Onnea indeed.

[@benjaminmunoz590]

Did you manage to remove the age restriction from that video? I can't remember which one it was.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

You so need to mention luxembourg before it's too late and Luxembourg conquers the WHOLE world

[@arachnonixon]

Dudley Pound is literally the Most British name I've ever heard

[@The_ZeroLine]

He liked to get pounded too.

[@The_ZeroLine]

And not just Dudley Pound either. Sir Dudley Pound. Imagine an American named Dudley Pound. Guy wouldn’t have survived Kindergarten.

[@kingusernamelxixthemagnificent]

Indy is screwing up Finnish logistics with his constant calls.

[@shrillbert]

Nah, Mannerheim called him this week, not the other way around.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

@@shrillbert They've been talking for weeks now. How do you think the Finns have been able to hold off the Soviets. Indy is Mannerheim's top military advisor. :)

[@themightyranger6321]

Maybe he is a soviet spy

[@petrusinvictus3603]

It was so close. I guess UK-France plans in North stopped Stalin. Forever Finland thanks and stays as The Shied of the North. We will be the shield: BE the SWORD!

[@gosforthlad]

@Jason Yes Britain especially Churchill , betrayed their own countries and their allies in order to help Stalin . The Matilda tanks and Hurricane fighters earmarked for Malaya were sent to Russia instead . The food that caused the famine that killed 3 million Bengalis was sent to Russia . The Anglo-Polish pact , Lendlease , Operation Keelhaul etc . It's almost as if Churchill and Eisenhower were agents of Globalist Communism . As many of today's leaders appear to be .

[@jamestang1227]

Jesus, being a soldier on either side of the Winter War at this time must have been a complete, unadulterated, nightmarish and terrifying hell.

[@WorldWarTwo]

and so many o them are merely boys... we should never forget that. That contributed to our choice of thumbnail this week - old men give the young the order to die.

[@Greatbasic101]

Movie "Tuntematon sotilas" is about continuous war by finnish perspective. 10/10 movie.

[@theonlylauri]

One interesting statistic: Despite Finland taking about 70,000 casualties and USSR 320,000-380,000, only thousand or so Finns were taken as POWs, and just five and half thousand Soviets. It was an utterly vicious fight in which neither side was inclined to give up or show much mercy.

[@WandererRTF]

@@theonlylauri Yeah, the extremely low numbers of POWs in the Winter War is striking.

[@vertie2090]

Aarne Juutilainen "the Terror of Morocco" was a Finnish army captain who served in the French foreign legion before the Winter War. He fought Arab rebels in the Atlas mountains. In an interview in the 1970s he said that fighting in the French foreign legion was nothing at all compared to the Winter War. He said the Winter War was totally inhuman everyday from the beginning til the end.

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

Britain is trying to break enigma French are bored Russians are on the offensive Germany is moving some crates around

[@timomastosalo]

@Fender Player Yeah, they had already played the game. Wonder why the others didn't learn from that it's not so great idea. Maybe because there the black shirts won, so they thought they can win the big one too.

[@andrewfreiji4647]

Not just any crates. Did you see the size of those compared the nation itself?

[@hafeezuddin1367]

@@andrewfreiji4647 maybe they are wunderwaffe crates?

[@andrewfreiji4647]

@@hafeezuddin1367 Maybe. I believe they were building the death star (cough) I mean the hinded star. Sorry about that.

[@plus1everyday63]

haha yup basically

[@poll-lie-ticks1776]

Fry: "Wow! You're the famous Soviet general Timoshenko who defeated the Finnish army! How did you do it?" Timosheko: "It was simply a matter of outsmarting them. You see, the Finns only had so much ammunition. So I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they ran out of bullets. Kif.....show them the medal I won".

[@59ikm]

Hahaha brilliant

[@Zamolxes77]

Thank you for employing the war winning strategy of 25 star general, winner of the war against pacifists of Hippy Nebula, Zapp Branigan !

[@Corneliu555]

This strategy is also responsible for such great population losses of the Soviet Union during this war. Russians often forget about it

[@TheBooklyBreakdown]

I was going to thumps you up but I blame Stalin for that not timoshenko

[@osaft2go830]

Corneliu5 no ist comes from nazi germanys genozide. The soviet union lost about 360.000 to the finns and 8.5 mil. soldiers To the germans however germany also lost 8mil. The reason why russion casulties were so high was because of 10mil. civilians murdered

[@patriot52realfinn22]

I am a Finn and know our history in WW2 quite well. My father and two of my uncles fought on the front line almost 5 years because they were unlucky after winter war cause they had to serve in the army one extra year and then began continuation war. My father was on the line almost 5 years, and was among those mem who stopped soviets in the great battle in Tali-Ihantala. Thanks Indy about a real and true history telling. Regards from Finnish Lapland.

[@hiivatti67]

Thank you. I am just a 51 year old finish man and i am cry in every episode. If andwhen they try again i isnt any easyer

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you very much for your appreciation!

[@tonyg-2jz82]

God bless you and your courageous countrymen standing up to the red Hordes. PERKELE!!!

[@Hyperious_in_the_air]

When the snow starts speaking Finnish.

[@theonlylauri]

By this point Russians are angry enough to just yell "idi nahui!" and shut the snow's mouth by throwing a bucket of their own blood on it.

[@KICKASSoBASSIST]

I laughed to this one.

[@rex02244]

@Nihil Patel so many commies got burned in that statement that it turned into summer.

[@efz629]

Jon Snow?

[@buster117]

Snow when Finnish starts the speaking.

[@AarenJable]

Where have all the Russians gone? Long time passing Where have all the Russians gone? Long time ag...oh *shit* there they are... *jesus* they're everywhere...

[@WorldWarTwo]

That's pretty funny... grim, but funny

[@blackcorp0001]

+World War Two War, laugh, fight or die

[@EstParum]

How is my future? I see russians. Jesus christ that is alot of russians

[@hidof9598]

@@EstParum , really works in today's context

[@rtmclean484]

soviets does not = Russian

[@TheMrMitosis]

It’s absolutely incredible how the TG team makes history come alive. Keep up the good work!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you!

[@musclesglasses5790]

Thank you for this. My great-grandfather died during the February offensive crossing the Viipuri bay, he was a Red Army private of 43rd infantry division 181st infantry regiment, Alyoshkin Khariton Alexandrovitch. We never found his grave. Sometimes I wonder how his end came to be. Was it an artillery shell? A Finnish ski-trooper raid? A sniper bullet? Did he drown in the bay or was buried by an explosion? This war shouldn't have happened, it was useless as Finns recaptured the lost territories a year later, it was unjust to the Finns and criminally poorly executed by the Soviets.

[@ryang58]

Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[@JohnSmith-nz1vj]

Soviet attack plans Before: Dumb suicidal Now: Smart suicidal

[@makynarrow1484]

this deserves more likes

[@JuanTorres-ny9ff]

The problem is if infantry can't move and do the job of actually taking the positions, one's doing nothing, somebody has to go, has to put his life on the line of fire.

[@indianajones4321]

The sickle will follow... Keep it up World War Two team!

[@WorldWarTwo]

As it often does when the hammers falls...

[@indianajones4321]

World War Two lol

[@legionofthedamned157]

I would give you a like but you have 69 so can not give you one

[@TheCatpirate]

When will Churchill learn that maybe he's not the greatest when it comes to the navy?

[@angelocortez4471]

Maybe if he become the Prime Minister (shrug)

[@ManUtdBoy13]

@@angelocortez4471 Buahaha like that will ever happen. That's a good joke my friend.

[@lukeclarke267]

Yeah could you imagine him being PM and giving speeches with his speech impediment, would be awful to listen to!

[@deanstuart8012]

In hindsight it isn't such a daft idea. In 1940 the Luftwaffe didn't have armour piercing bombs. Only 5 destroyers were sunk by the Luftwaffe at Dunkirk and those ships were static targets. British ships in the Baltic would be moving so even harder to hit with bombs that didn't work. The Baltic was "too shallow" for the British ships. This works both ways as it would reduce the U-boat threat. So without any air or torpedo threat the plan was doable. It's academic really though as the RN sank half the Kriegsmarine during the invasion of Norway, which means that Operation Sealion was a complete non-starter.

[@Alsadius]

He's not the worst either. Those battleships he wanted to modify were largely useless in modern war (they spent much of the war trying to ensure that they were as far away from enemy battleships as possible, which is the exact opposite of a battleship's proper role), so this would have given them a role. Like, seriously useless. Aside from Royal Oak, which was torpedoed in 1939, the other four were mostly used for convoy escort, were sent to the Indian Ocean to fight Japan (but withdrew when Japan sent a real force after them), and three of the four were out of service before D-Day even happened. The last, Ramillies, was taken out of service before war's end and turned into a barracks ship in 1945. These aren't the sort of ships it's desperately important to preserve, and turning them into oddballs might not have been the worst use for them.

[@TheSuperhoden]

Seriously, why do people downvote this?

[@WorldWarTwo]

The serious answer: for one of two reasons: they don't like us personally - or they are folks that we have blocked, and as most of those we have blocked are partisans to one of the extremes (Stalinists, Nazis etc.) who have lied about atrocities or insulted their perceived opponents, they probably don't like how 'their' side is coming over when you put the events out without apology or equivocation.

[@vertie2090]

Only Russians do

[@ajappat]

I mean 5 dislikes to 1,4k likes could account to misclicks alone.

[@KICKASSoBASSIST]

ajappat nah I’m pretty sure they are deliberate

[@lancetennenbaum2509]

*Stalin downvoted this*

[@paulk.dicostanzo2279]

When I think about Viipuri/Vyborg being handed over to the Soviets, I recall something George Kennan said about the city. Specifically before the war it was a vibrant, prosperous city. Afterwards, it was just rotting Soviet war booty.

[@toivoha]

It would likely be the 2nd largest city in Finland today. The location right between Helsinki and Saint Petersburg would have been ideal for economic development and the flow of people from and into both countries could have enabled the city to become truly bilingual.

[@user-ce6iy2nw5o]

@@toivoha it would Be The size of Tampere or turku

[@TheLocalLt]

Kirppu not even close Kaliningrad is doing well, Vyborg is literally falling to pieces look up pictures it’s shocking

[@paulk.dicostanzo2279]

Speaking of the Kaliningrad Oblast, does anyone else find it interesting Russia managed to keep it in their possession a midst the chaos of Soviet collapse?

[@TheLocalLt]

Paul DiCostanzo it was part of the Russian Republic during the soviet era so Yeltsin had sovereignty over it. That’s all there is to it.

[@garyc39]

you are the best ww 2 historian i have ever heard.

[@VoidRDM]

Still at early parts of the war, I’d say we are in for a ride. I joined The Great War series about halfway in, so glad I get to go along during the entirety of this one

[@teutonieth]

I still remember my history teacher talking about Risto Ryti's sacrifice: But holy hell we has a clever fox, he signed the treaty with Germany in his own name, not as president and representative of the nation, but as an individual. So, when the germans gave aid and delivered their help and the Battle of Tali-Ihantala was fought using german help, he resigned, allowing his successor C.G.E. Mannerheim to break off ties with Germany.

[@michealohaodha9351]

Quite a clever move. Not the most honourable but the right move for Finland at that moment.

[@teutonieth]

@@michealohaodha9351 Yup. Prolonged fight, in accordance with the deal, would have completely ruined Finland.

[@lesliefranklin1870]

Sadly, Finland had no choice. The USSR's intent was to gobble up the whole country, as evidenced by their pre-selected puppet government. The help promised by Britain and France never materialized.

[@homerpoikafani1336]

That was in continuation war.

[@SuperCompany007]

I like the tonnage war recaps :)

[@WorldWarTwo]

To not mention Eastory's brilliant mapping of it - he surprised us with that.

[@Yora21]

This war is so big, the number of ships becomes irrelevant. It's all about quantities of resources.

[@runevverhartvig6340]

Indy Neidell needs to roll his sleeves up all the way over the elbows. This half-way thing really grinds my gears.. 😉

[@WorldWarTwo]

Here's why: cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/51/19051-004-9926CB31.jpg our hero... good night and good luck!

[@runevverhartvig6340]

Indiana Neidell well, I can’t argue against that logic! 😇

[@iwantcrawfish6110]

@@WorldWarTwo I knew you reminded me of someone

[@kiranmollerchandiramani1050]

Finland fought well, but now the meme days of the winter war are over. Great channel btw. Hope you reach 1M subs before the Operation Barbarossa video, because this channel is totally worth subscribing to.

[@WorldWarTwo]

That you!

[@menitobussolini659]

So the hammer striked at finland but what about the sickle?

[@WorldWarTwo]

When the hammer strikes the sickle almost always follows....

[@menitobussolini659]

Btw who is the guy who keeps calling Indy when you need to start filming?

[@WorldWarTwo]

He doesn't say and we don't ask... loose lips cost lives.

[@menitobussolini659]

Maybe it's someone who traveled in the past and now is telling Indy everything he needs to know about WW2 before making the video

[@WorldWarTwo]

you mean... the timeghost?!?

[@sonnitallimynamaki1024]

" Onnea" on the phone. Thats hilarious!

[@harjacgamimg2526]

What does it mean in English?

[@jonttu617]

@@harjacgamimg2526 it means luck or joy. You can say onnea when congratulating someone or to wish luck for a given endeavor.

[@harjacgamimg2526]

@@jonttu617 OK thanks!

[@Young_Anglican]

I don't know if this is because you guys at Time Ghost have a lot on your plate (with this channel and with your interwar series) , but you haven't done any specials like you had for ww1 and those were always my favorites. Your person bios, national histories, and the like were always top notch and worth a watch even if you weren't watching the weekly episodes. Of course I appreciate the regular videos, but I miss the specials. Keep up the good work Indy and team!

[@WorldWarTwo]

We just realised our first special - about the T26 tank, we will soon release the first Bio - and the interwar series is pretty much a massive effort of specials since it explains the background to WW2 - but rest assured we will continue to make more and more specials.

[@terrystephens1102]

Another excellent presentation 😃👌👏👏👏👏

[@Ali-gk3xy]

2 February 1943. The siege of Stalingrad ended today. All the men who fell on the streets of Stalingrad, Rest in Peace.

[@SuperCompany007]

Uhh no it ends in 3 years bro

[@Ali-gk3xy]

Just mentioning the anniversary. That's all.

[@g.55centaurosimp18]

Spoiler alert ffs !!!!!!!! /s

[@christopherconard2831]

This "time traveler" is clearly a Soviet propagandist. Everyone knows that the Germans wouldn't be foolish enough to be involved in a Winter war in Russia. Besides, if they were to invade Russia, it would begin in Spring and be over before the first snow fell.

[@astrobot4017]

@@christopherconard2831 Well, obviously Indy is changing the timeline by starting a war between Germany and the USSR with the purpose to make the U.S. the dominant Superpower.

[@masonchurch680]

Soviet strategy "If we throw enough men at them they'll run out of ammo."

[@rikuvakevainen6157]

That's horribly but accurately said.

[@masonchurch680]

@Alberto Fuijimori yeah yeah

[@reactiveisland5580]

They stop doing it come 41-42.

[@talamahmoud10]

wow Churchill really didnt learn anything from gallipolli huh

[@jokuvaan5175]

0:01 I think Indy said "onnea", which is Finnish for "good luck". Though it also means "congrutulations"

[@onnikauranen7012]

Vaikea ymmärtää

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

He didn’t pronouce both “n”’s in Onnea which is why it’s a tad difficult to understand.

[@sudokusauna7298]

on-nae-uh

[@AunknownMan]

Respect to Finland

[@DarthYoshi401]

I believe I found the Great War channel while you were in mid 1918, thank god I found this channel early!

[@WorldWarTwo]

We are happy too!

[@AthelWah]

Alfred Dudley Pound was a great uncle of mine, Rest in peace. Hero.

[@vinbar35]

Just came across your channel and I subscribed right away. Such an interesting format. It reminds me of a television series here in the UK called All Our Yesterdays where the presenters, Brian Inglis, Bernard Braden and others, would cover cover the events of the war on a day by day basis. It was, if I remember correctly, a 15 minutes format and ran from the1960's onward. They would always start with "xx years ago today" and then go on to describe the events. Anyway, this is a top channel and thanks for all the effort it takes to cover this most important time of the 20th century.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Welcome!

[@agritrend4812]

This series of short films is magnificently brilliant

[@xxAnaconta]

Stay strong Suomi!

[@kingofcool]

I came here to hear Indy say Karelian Isthmus, was not disappointed. 5:02

[@Satori079]

I really love this channel

[@auguststorm2037]

Winston Churchill despite of being a great leader and politician had sometimes completely insane ideas

[@benoitlabrecque4513]

*often

[@karstreitsma7316]

TomModels15 The ice carrier was not Churchills idea, but that of a man named pycrete ( i think i misspelled that name) and he gave that idea to the US.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Nathaniel Pyke - pykrete is what he wanted to make it out of... or rather made as he created a 1/4 scale functional model of it in Canada during Project Habakkuk. Pykrete is ice mixed with sawdust BTW - but that's all in the future.

[@karstreitsma7316]

World War Two Thanks, I allways mixed the two up for some reason.

[@seneca983]

What you need is good institutions where several people are involved in decision making. That way one man's crazy ideas are less likely to be put into action.

[@adambomb5381]

Sucks to be Denmark just there. Also never realized how close northern UK Scotland was to Norway.

[@tasosfran2791]

Is it just me or all these episodes just don’t seem enough? I want MORE!!!

[@davidbellamy9717]

Well done. This is a fantastic series.

[@tlazur]

The Finns are absolutely badasses! The first players of horde mode.

[@indianajones4321]

10:39 who are you referring to... can’t possibly be Germany

[@gordusmaximus4990]

@@neues3691 it kinda happened, until the Soviets had "learned" and were fully equiped with the entire country turned to that war. And yes, the soviet did great operations and tactics also. But lets not pretend the numbers didnt matter, if we look at the kill ratio.

[@nathanbrown8680]

Well it's not Manchukuo. There is one rail line connecting the East to the West. It's only a single track for a substantial length. Because of the logistics bottleneck of the Trans-Siberian Railway, Russia had to rely on quality not quantity in Siberia.

[@WorldWarTwo]

It was actually competing doctrines - one part of the Red army believed in the deep war as formulated by Tukhachevsky with main focus on technology, movement through the enemy line, and tactical manoeuvres into the rear of the enemy, Another group believed that this would never work and instead embraced a war of attrition based on massive attack and human walls of defence - in the end they combined the two.

[@panduwidagdo7051]

@@vacatiolibertas he did. Through diplomacy.

[@JohnJohn-pe5kr]

I think it's Germany Hitler wants Living Space for his people and that space is in Russia he also hates Communists.

[@rainmanslim4611]

About to go to sleep at 3am. See indy uploaded. Sleep can wait

[@ProWhitaker]

Thanks for the video

[@cobbler9113]

So long Finland. Thanks for giving us belief that David can actually take on Goliath.

[@Yeeren]

To be fair to Finland - they have managed to prevent the USSR from turning them into a communist satellite state. No meager feat for such a small country.

[@victorbruant389]

Quite impressive for farmers with pitchforks, wouldn't you say?

[@tissot233]

Well this isn't the end of the fighting for Finns. For Finns these events were indeed crucial in that they were never taken behind the iron curtain. Something they no doubt can be extremely thankful considering that alongside Japan and Norway they were the fastest growing economy of the 20th century.

[@rikuvakevainen6157]

You think this is bad time for Finland? The firestorm has only began.

[@rikuvakevainen6157]

@Lassi Kinnunen sorry I don't get your comment. Are you refering to Winter War or Continuation War?

[@joyceblackmon1745]

I just dont understand y this channel isnt growing on a rapid pace. I thought everyone from the Great War would come over to this channel its the same content just a different war and its gonna be freaking Awesome. Hopefully the Subs will come around

[@WorldWarTwo]

We were not allowed by the owners of The Great War to advertise the channel while TGW was still uploading regularly. Thus, many subscribers over there still don't know that this is going on - as long as videos with Indy were going up on TGW, as the KZbin recommendation engine helped us, but the day uploads stopped on TGW in December our growth rate halved - that being said, we're very pleased with our growth despite all that.

[@StefanTranemann]

Someone should make “who is Indy talking to on the phone” and take a clip from a new movie every week. ( like Downfall, Saving Private Ryan or any other big movie) 🤔🧐

[@grwth4722]

Simo Häya has enterd the chat.

[@MrMiibez]

Häyhä*

[@MrMiibez]

@Prussian Eagle Perkele?

[@Alienasa1]

Easily the most bad ass Finnish man to ever exist.

[@MrMiibez]

@@Alienasa1 Check out Lauri Törni also.

[@stevebarrett9357]

Indy's remarks about the continuous Soviet attacks to wear down the Finns reminds me that I read where the Mongols would also do that, i.e., continuous assault on a city until it fell and using whistling arrows to disrupt and unnerve the defenders day and night. Another aspect of the Mongol Horde was their 'doctrine' of attacking during the winter. At one point in history, the Mongols controlled the area in European Russia for about 100 years. It is an interesting conjecture that the lessons of how the Mongols fought were learned by the military ancestors of the Soviet state and are reflected in the tactics employed by the Soviets against the Finns, and the Germans and their allies.

[@thefishoftruth235]

Go Timeghost!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Aye Aye!

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

Seems like Indy is really enjoying the WW2 Hotline

[@WorldWarTwo]

I know when that hotline bling That can only mean one thing

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

@@WorldWarTwo, WW2, round 2

[@davidadams3352]

Great video!

[@queerruska]

It's nice to see Finnish words and city names in a video, that was made by people, who are not Finns.

[@AdamMGTF]

Telegram to the fleet: "Winston's back" Signed. Admiralty, Royal Navy. No messing when it came to that cable! This week Winston seems to be channeling Jackie Fishers long dead ideas!

[@JustSolkim]

0:00-0:03" yeah.....oh yeah" puts phone down

[@DaDunge]

1:40 Isn't that Churchill's original idea for Gallipolli? A sort of naval blitz.

[@edwartvonfectonia4362]

The greatest failure of Stalin's political decisions. The most memed failure of Soviets.

[@amerigo88]

It wasn't the "Sovereign," it was the seventh ship to bear the name HMS Royal Sovereign. The five "Royal Sovereign" type battleships were known as the "R-class" because ALL of them had names beginning with the letter R. The British were originally going to build EIGHT of these ships. The original five were Royal Sovereign, Revenge, Ramillies, Royal Oak, and Resolution. The next two were modified into battlecruisers named Renown and Repulse. The eighth ship was cancelled. Please keep the "Royal", especially since HMS Royal Sovereign ships were commissioned by the Royal Navy in the following years: 1637, 1701, 1786, 1804, 1857, 1891, and 1915. Thank you for all the great work.

[@michealohaodha9351]

Nearly 200,000 followers in 5 months...says it all about this shows quality.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Michéal Ó hAodha and about the Internet! A lot of bright people out there contrary to what some believe. We’re humbled again and again by the thought that so many people want to listen to our rather intricate stories.

[@pnutz_2]

with regards to german restructuring, it may be worth getting MHV or one of the other military-based channels to talk about restructuring of the armed forces with lessons learned post-poland, compared to what the british and french were doing at the time

[@WorldWarTwo]

That's a nice idea - we reached out to him over a year ago, but back then he was in the middle restructuring his creative work into MHnV and had no time... maybe we will get do something with him in the future.

[@evanmadurai966]

Loving the series Indy, really good quality stuff FYI: The German battleship is prounced "Tear-Pitz" not "Ter-Pitz" which would make more sense to a native English reader.

[@seneca983]

That kind of respelling is ambiguous because "tear" can have two different pronunciations depending on the meaning.

[@marcusclaudius266]

It's cool to see the war unfold week by week like this. It gives us a chance to look at stuff like British plans to aid Finland, which never went anywhere in real life and so get ignored by most histories of WW2.

[@WorldWarTwo]

And it gives us a better feeling of causality

[@yungsapper12b94]

hey Indy, been a fan of you for about two years. I’ve been a combat engineer in the Army for two years now. I think it would be awesome if you went into the role of combat engineers throughout the war. Anyways, love your passion for history and always appreciate the videos 🤙🏻

[@WorldWarTwo]

We will definitely cover combat engineers at some point! Thanks for the support!

[@yungsapper12b94]

World War Two bless

[@georgimechev4832]

Really like your work! Wil there be series like out of the trenches, where Indy will awnser our questions? Thanks.

[@WorldWarTwo]

there will be! It's called Out of the Foxholes. You can already submit questions on community.timeghost.tv (in the OOTF category). The first episode will air in the next few weeks!

[@indy_go_blue6048]

On Sunday, February 4, 1940, my mother and father were wed. Their marriage would produce a daughter in October, a son in January 1947 and another son, me, in July 1950. Dad died in May 1963 at 51. Mom never remarried. She passed away in July 2005 at 84. The three of us and a passel of children and grandchildren are still here. Love you Dad and Mom.

[@Alsadius]

At about 1:50, the first of the battleships you name is properly HMS Royal Sovereign, not HMS Sovereign. Not sure if it's possible to edit videos to fix things like that any more, but if it is, you may wish to.

[@carlmanson6634]

Just horrific, this episode. And now we come to 2022…

[@bolloggfisch1100]

QUICK SUMMARY (video and Instagram posts) 27.1. Hitler outlines the plans for Operation Weserübung to invade Denmark and Norway. 28.1. Finnish troops eliminate the encircled Soviet troops in the Pieni-Kelivaara motti. 29.1. The Soviet Union indicates the possibility of peace talks with the legitimate Finnish government without the introduction of communism. 30.1. The seventh anniversary of the Nazis taking power, Hitler holds a commemorative speech, two German u-boats (U-15 and U-55) are sunk. 31.1. Former Vice Chancellor of Austria, Prince Starhemberg, joins the French army. 1.2. The second Battle of Summa begins with an assault on the Karelian Isthmus. 2.2. The members of the Balkan Pact (Yugoslavia, Romania, Greece, Turkey) meet for the last time in Belgrade to discuss a mutual defence agreement. QUICK RECAP (video and Instagram posts) 20.1. The First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, held his famous "House of Many Mansions" speech, urging neutral countries to join the Allied side. 21.1. British destroyer HMS Exmouth was sunk by the German U-22 (190 died). 22.1. Pope Pius XII. publicly condemned German actions in Poland, Soviet troops launched several offensives on the Mannerheim line. 24.1. The German government ordered all Jewish-Polish property to be registered or else be subject to confiscation, the Director of the Reich Main Security Office, Reinhard Heydrich, was tasked with finding a solution to the "Jewish question". 25.1. The German General Government announced the reshaping of the Polish economy to aid the war economy. 26.1. Birthday of Indy's mom.

[@mikiroony]

Well, it is not so far fetched: Russia had done exactly that for years during WW1. And congrats to Fernando!!

[@andrzejskuridin7119]

Well, during WW1 massive infantry assault was, in fact, the primary tactics used by everyone. Unfortunately, our generals were stupid/relentless enough to keep doing the same in WW2. RA was lacking competent officers after the purges.

[@henrihamalainen300]

I think you should take a look at Brusilov offensive. It was way more sophisticated than what they were doing during winter war...

[@madogthefirst]

@@andrzejskuridin7119 If it is stupid but it works is it really stupid?

[@VRichardsn]

@@madogthefirst The good old dilemma of efficient vs effective.

[@lovablesnowman]

@@andrzejskuridin7119 massive infantry attacks were not in fact the norm in ww1. That would be stupid. Massive infantry attacks backed up by massive amounts of artillery with aerial sporting is how the British won the first world war. In other words combined arms warfare which(spoiler alert) is also how ww2 would be won

[@jackbharucha1475]

The "Sovereign" was actually called HMS Royal Sovereign

[@Dev_Six]

"onnea" means good luck!

[@mikeltelleria1831]

Soviets seems to miss the Great War channel. First they tried the Cadorna approach and failed. Now they are trying the Douglas Haig plan.

[@TheCatpirate]

Ooooo.... I like the new maps

[@kstreet7438]

Once again I’m here early. Greetings from Atlanta.

[@GroupCaptSlow]

Speaking of Tirpitz, and chance of a St Nazaire special when the time comes? I’d love to see you guys go in depth on the raid!

[@WorldWarTwo]

I don't think we'll make it a special, but we'll definitely cover it in the weekly specials. Additional aspects could be covered in Out of the Foxholes.

[@bensagal-morris8072]

“If they can do it against the Finns, I bet they can do it against another enemy,” is Indy foreshadowing here?

[@remko1238]

Amazing artwork intro’s on this series,, would be great posters or T’s 🎖

[@alexandrejosedacostaneto381]

Honestly, it's a good thing Churchill's plan was abandoned. It had all the makings of a potential disaster. Losing 3 Battleships, several Destroyers and a Aircraft Carrier would significantly weaken the Royal Navy. Add to that the sinking of the Glorious during the evacuation of Norway and suddenly the Royal Navy is left in a very precarious position in 1940

[@brunoclement123]

I love this series

[@amardave84]

What kind of general sends his troops wave after wave for slaughter? And the soldiers, what must be their mental state knowing that they are going into certain death. I can't even imagine.

[@loke72]

The Russian Generals didn't have any problems with that. sending 10.000 thousand of soldiers to their deaths wasn't a problem

[@MachineGunJelly584]

Someone who knows that if he doesn't follow orders, he and his family are going to be shot... The soldiers were sometimes given vodka to make them fear less. But that must have been horrifying...

[@AnimeOtaku2]

So that’s where the term Quisling comes from!

[@Yora21]

He will appear a couple more times this year.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I've discussed this before, but the Soviet Union has almost no naval invasion capabilities to take the Japanese Home Islands. So while the Red Army can drive the Japanese off of the continent, they would be stuck with a knife in their back, much like how the British Empire remained a knife in Germany's back for much of the World War. So if the Soviet Union ended up in a full scale war with Japan at this point in time, it would be a disaster in the long term when combined with Barbarossa.

[@VRichardsn]

_much like how the British Empire remained a knife in Germany's back for much of the World War_ An important addendum: the Royal Navy could blockade Germany. The Imperial Navy could not blockade the USSR.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@VRichardsn Why not? The Imperial Japanese Navy built submarines capable of cirumnativating the Earth. So long as the IJN weren't tangling with the Allies, the VMF would be seriously outmatched against the IJN. The only difference being that Japan couldn't bring the heavier ships into the Atlantic, but then again they wouldn't really need to given how weak the VMF was. Not only that, but the main IJN fleets could blockade the Pacific, depriving Russia of any warm water ports.

[@VRichardsn]

@@Edax_Royeaux What I am trying to push forward is that the USSR was more self sufficient than Germany, so even with all the ports blockaded, it could still continue merrily without worries. A blockaded could starve, like in World War I. A blockaded USSR was more self sufficient. Also, _So long as the IJN weren't tangling with the Allies_ this is a very unlikely scenario, seeing that that Japan was pretty much on a set collision course with them.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@VRichardsn If Japan was at war with Russia, they would be following Hokushin-ron, not Nanshin-ron. The IJN would not have much political power, nor much ability to offend the Allies by waring with the Communists. Was Russia self sufficient? This is hard to say given Stalin ended up starving so many of his citizens. But I agree, a blockade would not destroyed Russia. But neither was I under the impression that Germany wanted for food in WWII since they plundered from their own occupied territories and starved their own minorities. Germany could also get international resources from neutral Spain so long as they occupied France.

[@VRichardsn]

@@Edax_Royeaux Oh, no. Germany didn't starve during World War 2, nor was even close, just like you said. I was referring to the infamous "turnip winter" to show how vulnerable Germany was. Of course, the VMF has nothing on the Imperial Navy. If anything, it would be worse than 1905.

[@Wegetsu]

Thanks for wishing luck!

[@Jake-rm4be]

Hi world war 2 I’m enjoying your channel but nice 👍 animated maps

[@liquid6901]

Dammit Indy, you've either gotta go whole hog ("Yes Comrade Stalin!") or just ditch the phone thing.

[@hahtos]

And yet they could not take tiny Finland. Sisu prevailed.

[@recklessted]

I like that Churchill's naval plan for WWII was basically just reusing Admiral Fisher's Baltic plan from WWI, which was never implemented because the assets were repurposed for Churchill's own disastrous Gallipoli campaign.

[@davethompson3326]

I suspect I am finding these far more interesting than the later war ones will be So much background that I didnt know ,even as a fairly well read WW2 wargamer

[@shawngilliland243]

Regarding Operation Catherine, in hindsight, given later events with more modern Royal Navy battleships in the Far East, the First Lord of the Admiralty Pound seems to have been right about Churchill's plan underestimating the effects of air power.

[@bkjeong4302]

Shawn Gilliland Exactly. This war proved that battleships were obsolete.

[@freetolook3727]

Caller: "You be home for dinner." Indy: "Ok dear."

[@lucianosilvestri4289]

Nazis committing massacres, murders and invading neutral countries; Allies: We will fight to the end! Soviets committing massacres, murders and invading neutral countries. Allies: Oh, that's cute

[@angelocortez4471]

1:52 *The 3 Battleships' names sounds like GUNDAM mobile armor names* :))

[@iwantcrawfish6110]

That's because the British got there inspiration from Gundam

[@VanaeCavae]

@@iwantcrawfish6110 lol

[@Kanjilearner]

Since 1940 and 1944 were both leap years, I wonder if the weekly recaps for that week will still be the same day when they are uploaded.

[@WorldWarTwo]

:-)

[@carbonara2144]

Russian ww2 propagandist shouting thru a loudspeaker in the frontline: "finnish soldiers, come here to have bread!" Finnish guy shouts back:" you come here to have butter for your bread! "

[@demondwilson706]

10:24, oh Indy

[@Philip271828]

Interesting. I didn't know that Fisher's Baltic Plan was that long lived.

[@vacatiolibertas]

I want to see a movie about the life of a soldier in the Winter War. It's blockbuster material!

[@WorldWarTwo]

I'd love Hollywood to dive into this..

[@cwovictor3281]

As for myself, I'd love a All Quiet On The Western Front-esque take on the Winter War.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Vacatio Libertas Well, there is the movie Winter war, Talvisota (1989). It is uploaded from time to time in KZbin, but it is also taken down fast. There is two versions, official movie and mini serie.