1.2m Depron Acrobat build

[@Warmbrak]

Very nice aircraft Andrew! I especially like the all-flying horizontal stabiliser and your practical approach to the fuselage assembly.

[@NOXFPV]

2019 and the video is still great.

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

I have build same rc plane using 6mm depron and have 2m wing . I really enjoyed your videos thank you

[@easy_3d]

Great plane Andrew

[@davidr5343]

Another excellent video Andrew. Love your work.

[@AeroStuffFPV]

Hey Ed, I love this acro Photon. I have one on my channel as well, 1800mm that does flatspins!

[@bobwhite4098]

Great, excellent, simple design. I glued the rudder between the fuse pieces and drilled the horizontal to bury the rod inside

[@AndrewNewton]

Oh yes that's a good idea

[@GilesKirby]

Really enjoy your videos, get a lot of inspiration from them. Thank you Giles uk

[@AndrewNewton]

Giles Kirby Thanks Giles.

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

I have built the same but weights around 988gms , it flies well but while doing looping it stalls ,may be insufficient thrust , thanks for this video ,

[@bwxmoto]

Cool vid, and cool plane!

[@wordreet]

I have to say that I built something similar to this just over a year ago and although it flew well enough, ie, straight and quite well balanced, I just didn't enjoy it. It was then that I realized that I want to turn the power off and glide. I prefer to view my plane in the same way I view a bird. I enjoy watching what it does and how it reacts to the air around it with mere guidance from me to, hopefully, keep it up there. I'll probably get started again next year as I've done nothing since I destroyed my Phoenix 2000 on it's maiden in the spring.

[@AndrewNewton]

+wordreet Agreed. Gliding, powered flight, multi rotor - in that order. You must have been really trying to destroy the Phoenix. Actually I did significant damage on the sloping maiden too.

[@wordreet]

+Andrew Newton Heh, not trying anything much at the time, but a bad case of itchy thumbs got me out on a windy day having never flown the thing before. Unfortunately, although I launched it ok, I remained standing in a corner of the field rather than moving further out to where I SHOULD have landed it. The corner of the field on that day was full of turbulence from the industrial estate, so when I brought the PK2 down for a low pass, it suddenly performed a 3/4 backloop plus 90 degree downwards and downwind turn while upside down sort of thing, and proceeded to attempt to fly THROUGH two rows of barbed wire and a post!!! The starboard wing got it's middle bent horizontally and vertically by the post, (approx 15 degrees at the square ally tube) aileron and flap came off and ripped out the servo arm. The fuse was ok, electrics were ok, but the tail area engaged the barbed wire and ended minus 4 pieces. So I have the tail still attached with no rudder and starboard tailplane still attached with no elevator and the other tailplane ripped off and separated from it's elevator. Both of my carbon tube snakes and their carbon push rods were destroyed. That was also my first flight with my new Optic 6 computer TX. It was working fine and felt pretty much like my regular TX. But, because I hadn't flown for several months at the time, my brain must have jammed. :¬D I'll get back in sometime because I've all these planes and sheets of foam hangin about looking at me. As to when. Hmm . later. :¬)

[@grahamrdyer6322]

Nice one Andrew the only thing that puts me off is the motor on the front but the Acrobat seems to fly well and I like the way you did the elevator.

[@AndrewNewton]

Graham R Dyer Acrobatic twin boom pusher? Might have to work on that.

[@opravilmarinade]

Nice build, gotta make something similar myself!

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes it's a design that works very well

[@RCaeroDepron]

great this plane I am also building a mustang p51 plane right now on my channel

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

Can a wing be un balanced ? Today I was flying and I hence noticed a drift on roll angle on one of the side of the wing

[@AndrewNewton]

Could be weight difference, twist, aileron difference

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

What is the flight time of the rc plane ?

[@AndrewNewton]

About 10 to 15 min depending on how aggressive you fly

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

Can I apply packing tape on fuselage instead of laminating film ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes I do that more often, it's easier and better for complex shapes.

[@ricchatrc]

That iron-on laminate film has got me thinking....can you still use packing tape for colour and then use the iron-on laminate to seal, or would you say that's a bit overkill.

[@AndrewNewton]

As long as the tape can handle the heat it would work OK

[@planesstevee]

hi great build!! just one thing, how do you find the cg of a scratch built plane when using no plans?? thanks

[@AndrewNewton]

Online CG calculators for wings and canard planes. For a more conventional plane I start 25% back from the leading edge (of a straight wing) then fly and adjust

[@planesstevee]

@@AndrewNewton Hi thanks for the quick reply!!

[@GamerBizzare]

Loved vieving it! keep it going man ... Thanks for such a great video

[@AndrewNewton]

***** Thanks for that. It is the best flying powered plane I have built.

[@GamerBizzare]

Andrew Newton Thank you for vieving my comment and replying i like your plane but i had i question will it work with 1000kv motor with 10x9.5 inch1045 propeller please, in resum will it fly with less power and work more or less as a glider thanks

[@AndrewNewton]

***** Depends how much thrust the motor produces. Anything over 300g thrust will be good. This plane is not really suited as a glider. For a better glider using these building materials I would go for at least a 1.5m wing and slimmer fuselage.

[@hansleatherby1032]

following all your videos keenly I think depron provides the weight factor answer in the uk but having some trouble sourcing the correct laminating film keep it coming Hans

[@AndrewNewton]

Hans Leatherby Hello Hans. Packing tape works just as well and you have colour choices.

[@FPV420.]

Awesome build :) Plane..... and simple! I repeat...."plane"

[@AndrewNewton]

Oh stop! Too funny!

[@joseantoniosantosdom]

Indeed! Thanks!

[@charliemccollough4745]

Thats is so cool!!!!

[@28th_St_Air]

really nice! the elevator is beautiful and I like the taper in the tail. did you make a symmetrical wing? I'm guessing that's where the underside wing curvature is coming from.???

[@Boekan_Arsheetec]

28th St. Air Land & Sea I guest it's semi symmetrical like he said in 3:05, "A little bottom curve".

[@AndrewNewton]

28th St. Air Land & Sea Bit of a story behind the wing. I originally made it symmetrical and tapered, but it was a tip stalling disaster. Don't know why. So I ripped it open, recut it to be straight and tried to make it flat bottomed but it ended up with a slight bottom curve. Works beautifully now.

[@jimbo57109]

coffee stirrrer wooden or popsicle sticks for strength they are great and cheap or free with your coffee at any major outlet

[@AndrewNewton]

jimbo57109 Actually they are just for the rubber bands to pass over without denting the foam.

[@jimbo57109]

yes but i use them for strengthening the fuselarge internal very good

[@AndrewNewton]

jimbo57109 Oh yes, bamboo skewers work well for that too.

[@jimbo57109]

yes i use them as well

[@joseantoniosantosdom]

Well done Andrew! Nice for a change! What sre the battery specs and what is the flying weight? Keep it Up!

[@AndrewNewton]

joseantoniosantosdom All in the video description.

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

Can a pixhawk Gyro be great for flying this built ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes but using a gyro on an acrobatic plane doesn't make sense to me

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

@@AndrewNewton Thanks For reply I really enjoy your videos , yeh you are right , but I have built same plane thought I don't do aerobatic stunts with it

[@davbell6573]

Hey thanks for the video ! Is the motor in a angle to the body? And do you have plans for download ? Thanks

[@AndrewNewton]

Dav Bell The motor originally had a little down thrust but it wasn't needed so I shimmed the mount to be straight. No angle now. Plans coming soon on my blog. See link in the description.

[@ismailbayfen]

thanks

[@dougkuechenmeister8733]

Thanks!

[@richhandler2621]

Awesome build! I use that same motor with an 8x6 prop (much faster). It's on a scratch built 540 style plane- 30" long body with full symmetrical airfoil wing that is 36" long with a tapered chord of 8" down to 6" 2" control surfaces all around. The plane weighs 550g fully loaded. I don't know where I was going with this comment, but I thought you might like to change the prop out for some more speed.

[@AndrewNewton]

***** Great info thanks Chris. I will try an 8x6. Your wing must have been better shaped than my attempt at symmetrical and tapered.

[@richhandler2621]

Awesome! I built a CNC hot wire foam cutter to cut out custom airfoil wings. I had some extra parts laying around- so I went for it. It's great to be able to have a machine cut a wing out for me ( :

[@maleeboue7505]

accumulator or battery for this plane?

[@AndrewNewton]

Rechargeable LiPO 3S battery

[@maleeboue7505]

Ok thanks

[@MrEndoftheRoadRC]

Slick build

[@asangagunatilake8054]

hi mate , does the EZload laminate film stretch as you heat up like the covering film you get from hobby shops ? Also does it stick better and add strength to foam compared to packing tape ? cheers

[@AndrewNewton]

Howdy, this laminate does not stretch like the covering film so you have to cut tabs and overlap narrower pieces for complex curves. It's stronger than tape but does unstick with a lot of flexing. I actually prefer tape for curvy applications

[@asangagunatilake8054]

cheers mate ! also does it shrink like the covering film ? (eg: covering balsa frames)

[@AndrewNewton]

No it doesn't shrink at all.

[@emiliendreyfus268]

Hello, I dont find any plan for the 1m20 wing, everything is 1m50! Do you have any plan to know where to cut? Thanks.

[@AndrewNewton]

I just build exactly the same as the 1.5m in the Depron Wing build video but make 2 x 60cm halves kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC1q4uFatpmg5I

[@SnapPunchRobert]

what is the measurement of the rudder wing top and bottom and then the actual rudder itself?

[@AndrewNewton]

Robert, the plan can be found on my blog. Linked in the video description.

[@SnapPunchRobert]

Andrew Newton Thank you Andrew. I'm almost positive I didn't see it there, I must of clicked something else. Thanks for the plans. Really like the idea of your tail piece.

[@bessybessy]

Nice ;) You use metric measures, I appreciate it.

[@AndrewNewton]

We use metric and Imperial in Aus

[@razzelldazzellrc2729]

Lets call it the meperial system. The rc world is constantly swashbuckling between the two.

[@lurkingcorsa10]

_@Andrew Newton_ -- could I build this with the alternative electronics? could I make smaller this wing 'n... could I fold the fuselage to be shorter before it's flight..? thnks bro..:)

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes that would be no problem, just keep it light and it will fly

[@lurkingcorsa10]

*@Andrew Newton --* butt.. wht size less than 1.2m I could make smaller? and then.. is it good idea and not some mistakes to use DIY 3S 18650 as this rc aircraft power..? thnks for fast responding..bro(Y)

[@lurkingcorsa10]

responding plz..!

[@AndrewNewton]

800mm or 1m would be good. Don't know those batteries. I would use lipo

[@lurkingcorsa10]

*@Andrew Newton --* 3S 18650 from notebook power..!

[@elijahf111]

how do you choose an esc that isn't too low or overkill for a motor?

[@AndrewNewton]

I usually measure the maximum current at full revs with a Watt meter then add at least 20% for safety. But the spec sheet that comes with the motor will have a recommended ESC or max current with specific prop size and battery voltage.

[@elijahf111]

Andrew Newton cool thanks

nice work. :)

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks

[@PapyCool24]

Hello you have a dimensioned drawing of the wing thank you translator translation

[@AndrewNewton]

No I dont but here is a bit more information - newtonairlines.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Acrobat and the wing is built like this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC1q4uFatpmg5I

[@smokster0604]

Very cool !!!

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

What is the weight of the rc plane including battery ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Pretty sure I put that in the description, did you read?

[@rcbuildmaster6192]

@@AndrewNewton oops I missed it . Thank you