1.7 MW megawatt (~ 2280 hp) - big electric motor start

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MENZEL MOTORS

MENZEL MOTORS

Күн бұрын

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@donsurlylyte
@donsurlylyte Жыл бұрын
once in a while i see something like this that makes me aware the scale of industry is much greater than what i think.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Sometimes we feel this way when we see things that are not part of our daily routine. Particularly noteworthy are industrial facilities.
@tylerfini8791
@tylerfini8791 4 жыл бұрын
The utility must have a dedicated capacitor bank for your building lol
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Fortunately the frequency converter of our test machine is regenerative and absorbs the energy for reusing it. So the bill is manageable.
@alexandrumarzenco6998
@alexandrumarzenco6998 3 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors I'm really curious how much your monthly electrical bill is
@G_Silent
@G_Silent 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrumarzenco6998 probably in the thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. But big powerful motors like this are always in demand and sell for 5 to 6 figures easy, so the electric bill is relatively as costly to them as your electric bill is.
@bfengineer
@bfengineer 2 жыл бұрын
Haha good one! Love it
@happymeal..5648
@happymeal..5648 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrumarzenco6998 one who can afford these don't think about electricity bills...
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
2:27 Technical data of the 1.7 megawatt motor • Menzel Motor type: MEBKSHN710-04 • Explosion-proof non-sparking II3G Ex nA IIC T3 Gc for use in gas Ex zone 2 • Standard: IEC / EN 60034-1 • Nominal power output: 1.7 MW megawatt (1700 kW) • Nominal voltage: 6 kv (6000 V) • Nominal speed: 1486 min-1 • Size: 710 • Mounting: IM B3 • Protection: IP54 • Cooling: IC511 • Weight: 7300kg Would you like more information about this electric motor and its applications in industry? Look at the video description or leave a comment.
@minercraftal
@minercraftal 4 жыл бұрын
The efficiency information is the most important information. Don’t know how it’s been used, but hydraulic motors seems going to take instead of the electronic motors nowadays.
@matthewszalkowski4719
@matthewszalkowski4719 Жыл бұрын
What uses a motor this massive
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Shall we upload another video with an electric motor start?
@JesseCombsTwiZtedCheese
@JesseCombsTwiZtedCheese 4 жыл бұрын
Please. I love these
@MrKillerpics
@MrKillerpics 4 жыл бұрын
Sure! Maybe some load tests?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
we have a real special for you ... in a few days we'll be releasing it ...
@elena6516
@elena6516 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@berthold64
@berthold64 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@williamgibb5557
@williamgibb5557 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a soft start on such a large motor! Nice paint job, also.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I am happy to pass your nice comment on to my colleagues who worked on this 1.7 MW motor
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 epic intro 0:23 cables are being connected 0:46 big electric motor start 2:05 our engineers check the details 2:27 technical data of the 1.7 megawatt motor 2:34 end card Leave a comment what you would like to see next! Thanks to our community for the information about our first "big electric motor" video.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 4 жыл бұрын
Show balancing the rotor of a large motor like this, or larger!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest in our work and the good idea. Since we do the balancing of the rotor in our workshop we are happy to show that part of the motor production in a video. Stay tuned.
@lauradorca
@lauradorca 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@ervivekchoubey
@ervivekchoubey 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Loved this giant 3-ø motor❤️
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for your comment.
@casualtake1497
@casualtake1497 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus the power needed to spin this thing is insane
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
The power at no load (like we do here) is very low, only a few KW’s.
@kose10
@kose10 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors how many kw exactly??
@timothyhackett7372
@timothyhackett7372 3 жыл бұрын
@@kose10 a few
@Vik_ru
@Vik_ru 4 жыл бұрын
Хороший должно быть моторчик! Молодцы, что сделали!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Большое спасибо за хороший комментарий. Я отправлю это своим коллегам, которые работали над этим двигателем.
@igxniisan6996
@igxniisan6996 6 ай бұрын
What is the output coefficient of that synchronous motor??
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions Жыл бұрын
Huh, that was a really smooth and quiet start given the size and power rating of the motor. Definitely sounds well balanced, and given the industry those go into, the finest long life bearings available. You must also have a very fancy VFD hooked up to handle the huge amount of power and soft start. As I see mentioned in a few other comments, it has a regenerative breaking ability of sorts, and that's quite interesting. Definitely doesn't hurt to have that when you're running something at that level of power input.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your professional comment! Glad you like our work.
@kotstalker9658
@kotstalker9658 4 жыл бұрын
Хороший мотор собрали молодцы я вами горжусь.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Мы рады это слышать. Большое спасибо.
@kotstalker9658
@kotstalker9658 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors мне не зашто
@сашагемберг
@сашагемберг 4 жыл бұрын
*_Всех, с наступающим Новым Годом!!! Привет из Донецка!!!_* 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Замечательный. Большое спасибо. Привет в ответ.
@kotstalker9658
@kotstalker9658 4 жыл бұрын
Привет
@tanveerkhan9221
@tanveerkhan9221 4 жыл бұрын
How are these motors cooled I can see venting front and back are these air suction and air exhaust system
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
This 1,7 Megawatt motor features a IC511 cooling - a rather old-fashioned cooling type. It has gradually been replaced by more modern cooling types such as IC 411 and IC 611. But we still build these motors as these are still the first choice for some industrial applications, due to their various advantages. The tube cooling principle ensures particularly efficient, uniform cooling, because the cooling pipes are wound symmetrically around the laminated core. The primary and secondary coolants are moved by fans on the motor shaft. Read more: www.menzel-motors.com/squirrel-cage-motor/ic511/
@Walker7745
@Walker7745 4 жыл бұрын
Well, where was the grounding? I only saw three phases. Is the safety precaution unnecessary?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Safety regulations are very high.
@elverteinstein3134
@elverteinstein3134 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. I love this.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
And we like it when you like it.
@anything.with.motors
@anything.with.motors 6 ай бұрын
Whats the amp draw over the run?
@Nelson_Yip_US
@Nelson_Yip_US 3 жыл бұрын
Can you upload video about big electric motor overhauling? Thank you very much.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion. We try to keep this in mind for our next videos.
@Xx1FIRAS1xX
@Xx1FIRAS1xX 21 күн бұрын
هل يعمل على محول خاص لانه المحول الموجود 400V
@Сергей-г7ы4е
@Сергей-г7ы4е 4 жыл бұрын
Ein solcher Motor , die ganze Fabrik, kann sich drehen .
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Ja, diese Motoren haben ordentlich Power. Aber wir fertigen sogar noch größere und stärkere Motoren.
@scudsturm1
@scudsturm1 3 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors auch kleinere?
@samuellourenco9526
@samuellourenco9526 3 жыл бұрын
Next question: how to measure these coils for shorts, if they basically read as shorts with a multimeter? ;)
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 3 жыл бұрын
Use low voltage AC, and an ammeter. Look for differences in current at a given voltage, testing one phase at a time. It's very hard to detect inter coil shorts using DC, due to the low resistance, and, the normal tolerances of the windings. Short circuits really reduce the AC inductance of the windings, and makes it much easier to detect, by noting differences in current. (Note: there will normally be slight differences in inductance between phases in a good motor) You will actually see slight fluctuations in inductance, (current) by slowly hand-turning the rotor of the motor.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
It is a very precise measurement required to properly measure, due to very low resistance values. Most important is a proper connection between measurement device and coil / phase.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good procedure. The coils are all measured during production - and compared. if there is a difference between single coils they should not be used. Connections between coils is done by brazing - there a proper connection needs to be ensured.
@pinopadolecchia2895
@pinopadolecchia2895 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastico la partenza. Come sono alimentati con inveter?. E soprattutto a che tensione
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Grazie per la tua domanda. Iniziamo da un VFD, quindi frequenza e tensione da zero in poi.
@pinopadolecchia2895
@pinopadolecchia2895 3 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors ok quindi sono collegati a y.avendo una partenza lenta e soprattutto o.di assorbimento. Giusto?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
@maherhasna4979
@maherhasna4979 4 жыл бұрын
How much does it weigh? At what price such a huge motor is usually sold? Thank you so much.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your questions. The motor has a total weight of 7300 kg. The final price depends on the configuration, just like when you buy a new car or a house. We are specilized in the manufacturing of customized industrial motors. So there are no standard price lists.
@poiuytrewq8ff
@poiuytrewq8ff 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors I'm guessing the EX rating would add considerably to the price
@pratoarancione7646
@pratoarancione7646 2 жыл бұрын
Which is the name of this magnific music, please Menzel?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
Dance of the Mammoths, The whole other
@pratoarancione7646
@pratoarancione7646 2 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors Thank you very much!!
@festivelad5079
@festivelad5079 3 жыл бұрын
Was trying to get an idea of what an RBMK reactor feedwater pump sounded like (~3Mw), this is close enough, thanks!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
we are happy to hear that, thank you
@Boltvin
@Boltvin 4 жыл бұрын
I want install this the Motor to my Tesla car. Call me, maybe? Ok? Thanks.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Tesla Hummer XXL version with a permissible extremely heavy weight? Maybe then. You can only drive a few laps around the power station because of the cable. ;-)
@scudsturm1
@scudsturm1 4 жыл бұрын
if u can develop a micro nuclear reactor for power generation, sure
@LeonardoLeo-jw2dx
@LeonardoLeo-jw2dx 4 жыл бұрын
@@scudsturm1 Just imagine that moment when a car accident occurs with that micro nuclear reactor.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
@@scudsturm1 With a flux capacitor you could then travel back to the future.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors One slight problem: It needs to be easier to fit the motor in the car, than to park the car inside the motor!😁🤣😂
@IncreasingVoltage
@IncreasingVoltage 4 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity: How much power does the motor draw at no load? Thank you for that interesting insight!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
The active power is very low, only for friction of bearings and losses of the fan, the rest is reactive power for magnetization, which we compensate.
@minercraftal
@minercraftal 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors is it a certain number, what voltage and amp is normal for no load start, what voltage and amp can keep some kind of speed like 1krpm, 3krpm.
@talutali7379
@talutali7379 4 жыл бұрын
@menzelmotors Sir the electric motors used for submarine propulsion are of same kind? They also range in 2KW+ rating
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. To our knowledge submarine propulsion are completely differently built. But we lack the details, as this is military secret.
@bobl78
@bobl78 2 жыл бұрын
keine Erdung anschließen ?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
Die Erdung erfolgt über geschirmte Kabel im Prüffeld, die als Erdung dienen.
@MdsujonIslam-ge9mp
@MdsujonIslam-ge9mp 6 ай бұрын
What's the RPM of it?
@maerklin29800
@maerklin29800 4 жыл бұрын
Wird der von nem Inverter angesteuert oder werden die 3 Phasen direkt zugeschaltet?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Im Prüffeld wird der Motor von einem Umrichter angetrieben - um einen langsamen Hochlauf zu realisieren. Beim Kunden später wird der Motor direkt zugeschaltet.
@YouareB
@YouareB 4 жыл бұрын
Сколько там меди?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Обмотка статора содержит около 400 кг меди, кожух ротора с короткозамыкающими кольцами прибл. 450 кг
@Stresss70
@Stresss70 4 жыл бұрын
Какой ток и напряжение? Which current and voltage??
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
6 кВ. При 6000 Вольт номинальный ток близок к 200А.
@TheMotorman1981
@TheMotorman1981 3 жыл бұрын
Induction motor or slip ring?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. It's a three-phase squirrel cage induction motor.
@Stevooo1985
@Stevooo1985 4 жыл бұрын
Zeer mooie video's !! Heerlijk om te zien en te kunnen laten zien. Dit is mijn job, maar ik mag dit niet filmen. Dus zeker blijven doen! Top! Klein puntje van kritiek: Het doet pijn aan men ogen (als tester van elektromotoren) om te zien hoe de kabel aan de bornen wordt vast gemaakt. Daar nemen jullie een groot risico. De regel van de kunst is met een momentsleutel. Toch niet met een elektrische slagboormachine. Koperen of messingen bornen zijn zacht, het zijn geen 8.8 draadstangen. Ik heb al heel vaak dergelijke bornen moeten vervangen vanwege het te zwaar aanzetten van de moeren.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Heel erg bedankt voor de leuke reactie. We zijn erg blij dat je onze video's en wat we doen leuk vindt. Ja, u heeft volkomen gelijk, de verbindingen moeten tijdens de installatie beslist worden vastgedraaid met een momentsleutel. Voor korte testritten in het testveld gebruiken we traploos verstelbare slagmoersleutels, die op een minimaal koppel zijn ingesteld om deze verbindingen niet te beschadigen. Bedankt dat je hierop hebt gewezen. We wilden geen verwarring zaaien.
@janibekajimamatov3694
@janibekajimamatov3694 2 жыл бұрын
Можно его использовать в микро ГЭС?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
Я не уверен, что понимаю, что вы имеете в виду под микро-ГЭС? Среди наших клиентов много гидроэлектростанций.
@janibekajimamatov3694
@janibekajimamatov3694 2 жыл бұрын
Дайте ваше контакты
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
You can contact my colleague Victoria: vm@menzel-motors.com
@sasho54
@sasho54 3 жыл бұрын
What are the numbers of stator and rotor slots? Just curious. Amazing starting sound.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment! I am afraid thought that my engineering colleagues don't share their special design-criteria with me. But that does not wary much between small and large motors.
@gshaw1090
@gshaw1090 3 жыл бұрын
No half keys?? What’s the RPM?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Nominal speed: 1486 min-1. This was a noise level test which was carried out without half key.
@Grimaldus7
@Grimaldus7 Жыл бұрын
If I tried to stop it by gripping the shaft, could I do it? I'm very strong.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Are you Hulk? Hulk might be able to do it. ;-)
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 4 жыл бұрын
4-pole motor, 1,486 RPM @ 50 Hz. so, I would need to run it at 7,200 volts @ 60 Hz, to operate at 1,786 RPM and still get full rated torque?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
yes, absolutely correct
@sleepless3y3s
@sleepless3y3s 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors That means 2280hp @ 1486rpm translates to 8061 ft lb of torque . Amazing
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Robinette Your comments are gold and I just have to say that, thank you, I'm glad to have you here.
@fir3zzz580
@fir3zzz580 4 жыл бұрын
What about using a Top fuel engine with 1,700kgfm
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 4 жыл бұрын
@@fir3zzz580 Too expensive. Fuel costs ~$70.00 US per gallon, $18.47 US per liter. The engine, running at a reduced speed, (it will indeed produce the torque) will consume approximately 1/2 liter per second, that's $9.12 US per second. Another problem, is that the engine can only sustain that power for 30 seconds at that reduced RPM, then, it will need to be rebuilt. Keep in mind, these engines typically don't have any cooling system. They rely on thermal mass, to allow for a ~5 second run down the track. They use the "burn out" as a means of warming the engine up to a minimum operating temperature, the thermal mass helps keep it from over-heating in the 5-second race. it is then disassembled, gets new rings and bearings, and it's allowed to cool, reassembled in less than an hour, and is ready for the next race. At $.12 per kWh, the electric motor can run for 22-1/2 hours on the same money, that it takes to fuel the dragster engine for one second. While the engine would need a rebuild every 30 seconds, the motor can run continuous for >3,000 Hours at full rated power, without any maintenance! The only advantage the top fuel engine has, is horsepower to weight ratio. The electric motor weighs as much as the dragster, and the truck to haul the dragster in combined! Not a problem, in a stationary application. These large electric motors don't have to accelerate themselves.
@MrHowzaa
@MrHowzaa 3 жыл бұрын
Can I come over and try to stop the shaft with my bare hands?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Any time. But I have to tell you beforehand that many have tried and not a single one has succeeded ;-)
@MrHowzaa
@MrHowzaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors if i can stop the motor will you upload video of the shaft becoming red hot and your ceo crying over losing a 500k euro motor?
@YolandaPlayne
@YolandaPlayne 11 ай бұрын
It would turn you into hamburger
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 4 жыл бұрын
What voltage was used to start it?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. We start over a VFD, so frequency and voltage from zero on.
@After_Tech_Industries
@After_Tech_Industries 4 жыл бұрын
What is the testing rig for this beast
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
take a look at our playlist for our electric motor test field ... kzbin.info/aero/PLyNAwc95KEK2jHjYajwDs9Z3NX6LCMlXV
@elverteinstein3134
@elverteinstein3134 2 жыл бұрын
This 3 phrase motor has any capacitor? 😅
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. No, these large 3phase motors have no capacitor
@CarGuy-uz7gz
@CarGuy-uz7gz Жыл бұрын
How much does a motor like this cost
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
more than a Tesla and less than the downtime of an industrial plant ;)
@David-yy7lb
@David-yy7lb 4 жыл бұрын
what's the start up amperage to get the motor spinning
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
The Motor is suitable only for DOL duty, so it is started over the VSD starting ramp. So the current will never exceed rated current.
@WasherMotors1400
@WasherMotors1400 3 жыл бұрын
Does it heat up? I mean what's the temperature of the motor?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. Safe winding operation temperature is usually around 110 - 130°C
@guillermovalecillo4330
@guillermovalecillo4330 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente video. Saludos desde Venezuela.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por su comentario. Nos complace que le guste tanto nuestro vídeo.
@SanyaTsvay
@SanyaTsvay 4 жыл бұрын
домашнее точило, могло бы получиться
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Что вы имеете в виду под домашней точилкой?
@SanyaTsvay
@SanyaTsvay 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors sharpening machine for home
@Povelitelburi888
@Povelitelburi888 2 жыл бұрын
Интересно что если подключить без плавного пуска? какой там будет пусковой ток?)
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
The motor is operated via a generator set. This is controlled by a frequency converter. The frequency and voltage are controlled via this, which enables start-up without high inrush currents. If the motor were switched on directly, the starting current would be 4.5 times higher than the rated current for a short moment. In this case 192 A x 4.5 = 864 A.
@Povelitelburi888
@Povelitelburi888 2 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors Thank you!
@megacup3977
@megacup3977 Жыл бұрын
whats the price i need to know very quickly please
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
The price depends on many configuration factors and varies. It is best to send us a specific request and our engineers will provide you with a concrete offer. info(at)menzel-motors.com
@megacup3977
@megacup3977 Жыл бұрын
What is the price of the Squirrel cage motors
@megacup3977
@megacup3977 Жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors I don't really want to buy the product, I only want to know the price of the squirrel cage motors, for I am doing research about some electrical motors, don't worry I am citing sources.
@scudsturm1
@scudsturm1 4 жыл бұрын
wo braucht man so ein teil?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Die Bestellung kam für diesen 1,7 MW Motor kam von einem europäischen Ölkonzern, bei dem ein Pumpenantrieb ausgefallen war.
@scudsturm1
@scudsturm1 4 жыл бұрын
das ist ja krass
@scudsturm1
@scudsturm1 4 жыл бұрын
der hat bestimmt auch eine menge drehmoment
@ktmf2
@ktmf2 4 жыл бұрын
While this is an Ex-rated motor running on 6kV, made for running 24/7 and probably much more heavy duty, I still don't understand why these motors are so much heavier and bulkier than the electric motors used in electric cars For example, the Lotus Evija, Pinifarina Battista and Rimac C_Two will have 1.4MW (probably peak power though), new Tesla Roadster is expected to have 1MW (also peak), the Porsche Taycan can do 0.44MW continously... but these motors probably weigh around 100kg, not 7300kg. The difference won't be just active cooling, right?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting questions. Actually, there are many huge differences. For example: Industry electric motors have a calucalted life time of approx. 40 years continous duty, means roughly 320.000 duty hours. How many hours a car is designed for? If you calculate 40 km/h as average speed with 5000 hours you are at 200.000 km This motor has the 1.7 MW at 1500 rpm, the electric car motors at much higher speed. If they have their power at 6000rpm it is only 1/4th of the torque, at higher speeds even less. We have to compare torque, not power. Our industial motors MUST have extreme overload requirements (by IEC Standard 160% torque for 2 minutes, 190% current for 2 minutes). The given data of the electric cars are just very short peak data, which they can supply for a few seconds. These are just some of the most obvious differences. Apart from the name "electric motor" and physical principle, electric motors in cars do not share anything with electric motors for industrial applications.
@samuellourenco9526
@samuellourenco9526 3 жыл бұрын
Electric motors in cars are not made for continuous, non-stop use at the full-rated torque and speed. You can also say the same about vacuum cleaner motors, that are much smaller and lighter than their industrial counterparts that have the same power.
@curtchase3730
@curtchase3730 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I bet the motor was happy to be revved up with a VFD instead of just slamming it with 6Kv mains! LOL. I like the humor these guys have when answering nutty questions, like: Will if fit my Honda? LOL. Good job! No need to answer my silly question. I did the maths and came to the conclusion that most of the energy from the motor would be used in dragging around a power generating station in the trailer behind the car anyway! Won't work.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@pkart8451
@pkart8451 3 жыл бұрын
Torque?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Rated torque Nm 10925
@alexis80330
@alexis80330 4 жыл бұрын
What’s that engine for?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
This electric motor project was about a particularly fast delivery from stock. The order came from a European oil company where a pump motor had failed.
@ipadize
@ipadize 4 жыл бұрын
how many Newtonmeters does it produce?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
10925 Nm
@ipadize
@ipadize 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors crazy
@ianhosier4042
@ianhosier4042 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you phoned national grid well in advance of startup so they could put another power station online
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately the frequency converter of our load machine is regenerative and absorbs the energy for reusing it. ;-)
@henryhildebrand4236
@henryhildebrand4236 4 жыл бұрын
will this fit in my honda
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Your Honda would fit in there. ;-)
@amayasaghiles6544
@amayasaghiles6544 4 жыл бұрын
Nous savons rien sur les détails de ce moteur ni sur leurs usage merci
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Le moteur a été configuré pour la mesure du niveau sonore dans notre champ d'essai de Berlin. Dans ce cas, le démarrage du moteur a été effectué découplé et sans demi-clé. Les valeurs de vibration et les niveaux de bruit se situent dans la plage de tolérance spécifiée. Ce projet de moteur électrique concernait une livraison particulièrement rapide du stock. La commande venait d'une compagnie pétrolière européenne où un moteur de pompe était tombé en panne. Le moteur à cage d'écureuil montré ici dans la conception de pied IM 1001 (IM B3) a une construction en acier soudé avec des boîtes à bornes latérales, un bout d'arbre et des roulements à rouleaux lubrifiés à la graisse. Il est conçu pour les zones antidéflagrantes de la zone 2 et dispose d'un échangeur de chaleur tube-enveloppe-air-air. Son circuit de refroidissement par air interne est entraîné par des ventilateurs internes montés sur l'arbre. La chaleur externe est dissipée dans l'air ambiant via l'échangeur de chaleur tubulaire dans le boîtier et le ventilateur externe installé sur le NDE (type de refroidissement IC 511). Données techniques du moteur 1,7 mégawatt • Type de moteur Menzel: MEBKSHN710-04 • Antidéflagrant antidéflagrant II3G Ex nA IIC T3 Gc pour utilisation en zone Ex gaz 2 • Norme: CEI / EN 60034-1 • Puissance de sortie nominale: 1,7 MW mégawatt (1700 kW) • Tension nominale: 6 kv (6000 V) • Vitesse nominale: 1486 min-1 • Taille: 710 • Montage: IM B3 • Protection: IP54 • Refroidissement: IC511 • Poids: 7300 kg
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to our community. Leave a comment what you would like to see next!
@imeprezime1285
@imeprezime1285 4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to see a video on measuring torque vs slip characteristic in the test field facility of some large squirrel cage motor
@elena6516
@elena6516 4 жыл бұрын
capacitor connections and purposes
@russellking9762
@russellking9762 5 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to connect this motor to say a Pelton or Francis turbine to produce electricity? I suppose my question should have been ...Is this the type of motor that is or could be used in a micro hydro setup?
@RogerManrique
@RogerManrique 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The megawatt motor or the video itself? ;-)
@Василий-ж3п5ф
@Василий-ж3п5ф 4 жыл бұрын
Для чего такой моторчик применяется?
@АнатолийОпацкий
@АнатолийОпацкий 4 жыл бұрын
Прокатный стан, В Мариуполе видел 45 лет назад на слябинге 1150 , так он в раза два больше.(запомнил было написано высоковольтный, но данные уже не помню.)
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Это взрывозащищенный двигатель, который будет приводить в действие насос на заводе по производству масла. Menzel производит большие промышленные двигатели для различных применений в нефтехимической промышленности: приводы насосов, компрессоры или двигатели вентиляторов. Но также и моторы мельниц.
@simont3686
@simont3686 4 жыл бұрын
Ich würde gerne mal sehen wie es aussieht wenn man so einen Motor gleich mit voller Leistung startet. Direkt an die Phasen ohne Softstarter oder Stern-Dreieck-Schaltung. Würde mich nicht wundern wenn das nicht möglich ist.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Dies ist technisch möglich - und wird in den meisten industriellen Anwendungen weltweit realisiert. Sieht nicht anders aus - nur die Startzeit ist deutlich kürzer - normalerweise zwischen 3 und 30 Sekunden. Aber es tut mir leid, wir können dies in unserem Testfeld nicht realisieren - das Netz ist nicht stark genug, um diesen Kurzschlussstrom zuzulassen.
@geoffgeoff143
@geoffgeoff143 Жыл бұрын
They didnt appear to check the bearings.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Why do you think that?
@dodznb238
@dodznb238 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you a nice video, Menzel motor...salamat po.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
4 жыл бұрын
I like the music 🎼
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
We also.
@alanblyde8502
@alanblyde8502 7 ай бұрын
We used to run an electric motor at 3.6megawatts, was used in an MDF process, scary shit when the power shutoff under full load it was driving a defibrator
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 7 ай бұрын
Yes, you can see the size and power especially when you experience these motors live.
@garrysteptoe2279
@garrysteptoe2279 4 жыл бұрын
Tightening electrical connections with a rotary tool like that! not in my day.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience. What type of electric motors did you build or test?
@Phantomthecat
@Phantomthecat 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the 21st century.
@hollander133
@hollander133 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phantomthecat Still on those contact, I would definitly still grab the torque wrench. They damage really fast.
@yme6958
@yme6958 4 жыл бұрын
How much it costs?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that you are interested in our products. For your enquiry please feel free to use the enquiry form on our website: www.menzel-motors.com/enquiry/
@megacup3977
@megacup3977 Жыл бұрын
I know you told me to go to the site but could you just give me any value of a squirrel cage motor cost, I need it for simple research, not university research just a simple one, no specific price just the price of a default one or the price you belive it to be please answer this question and thank you for the fast response you had on my other comment, very effective.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Dear megacup3977, thank you for your question. Since we are specialized in the production and delivery of large customized, individual electric motors, there is nothing like a general price list for our motors.
@AKABILASETOFICIAL
@AKABILASETOFICIAL 4 жыл бұрын
Are you from Norway?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thanks for your question. We have our headquarters in Berlin and several european offices, one in Sweden, for example.
@ct6502c
@ct6502c 2 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel. Beautiful motor! But being around 6,000 volts at high current seems pretty scary!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your nice comment. We are glad you like our channel. Don't worry, as a company we are committed to the utmost caution and safety of our employees.
@papapaniop
@papapaniop 4 жыл бұрын
to jest tak piękne zę aż mój dzięcioł wyleciał z gniazda
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Dziękuję Ci. Szczęśliwy, że ci się podoba.
@joshanderson1019
@joshanderson1019 4 жыл бұрын
If you touch the wires does your hair stand up?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
:-) That's why our colleague is using a hair tie
@sashapet5214
@sashapet5214 4 жыл бұрын
А как такой на велосипед поставить?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Боюсь, ваш велосипед наверняка поместится в мотор.
@mohahamo965
@mohahamo965 3 жыл бұрын
Damn a few gears and he can move the hoole city
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
maybe
@austinsatoskar8151
@austinsatoskar8151 3 жыл бұрын
Must be ridiculously high voltage considering the power lines compared to the motor are the size of sewing thread.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The cables in the test field are suitable up to 20 kV insulation. The thread on most HV motors is M16.
@Сергей-г7ы4е
@Сергей-г7ы4е 4 жыл бұрын
Такой двигатель , весь завод , вращать сможет .
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Это правильно. Но есть еще более крупные и мощные двигатели, которые мы производим.
@EifelBlaulichtTV
@EifelBlaulichtTV 4 жыл бұрын
Direktanlauf wohl eher ausgeschlossen. Mächtiges Gerät. Schönes Video 💪
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Herzlichen Dank! Es freut uns, dass unsere Arbeit gefällt. In unserem Prüffeld starten wir diese Motoren über die Frequenz. Aber in industriellen Anwendungen werden 95% dieser Motoren tatsächlich mit DOL gestartet.
@homaism
@homaism 4 жыл бұрын
Я видел такой как запускали, при сдаче объекта насосной станции.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Интересно. Расскажите, пожалуйста, подробнее.
@technik7766
@technik7766 4 жыл бұрын
N/m?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
10925 Nm
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 2 жыл бұрын
96.8% efficiency...NOT BAD!!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
not bad means very good?
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 Жыл бұрын
yes, that's incredibly good, especially for a motor designed to run on 50 Hz line frequency! Is this, by chance, a wound rotor motor? I couldn't help but notice another larger terminal box on the opposite side of the motor. Is that where the soft start resistors and bypass contactor are for the rotor? @@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
That is the star-point terminal box for the external star-point
@mikvolg423
@mikvolg423 4 жыл бұрын
Велика доблесть, на холостом ходу моторчик крутнуть. Вы под нагрузкой покажите, вот где красота....
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Вы правы, но, к сожалению, большинство клиентов не разрешают нам снимать на своих заводах, чтобы показать, как двигатель работает под нагрузкой. На нашем испытательном полигоне двигателей в Берлине, Германия, мы можем проводить испытания мощностью до 1800 кВт под нагрузкой и до 10000 кВт без нагрузки.
@waynefloyd2680
@waynefloyd2680 5 ай бұрын
American made for the dodge ghoul srt 426 hybrid gas and electric 😮
@YevgenyMorozov
@YevgenyMorozov 10 ай бұрын
Some kind of soft start
@Osmone_Everony
@Osmone_Everony 10 ай бұрын
Sorry for the dumb question but I'm a bit confused right now. Back in school we learned that P = U * I. So 6000V x 192A = 1.152 MW. How come this motor has even 1.7 MW?
@theArk6969
@theArk6969 4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Not everyone can calculate, with slip, apparent power, efficiency, cos pi 🤣
@Osmone_Everony
@Osmone_Everony 4 күн бұрын
@@theArk6969 I'm not an engineer in this field. So how about a reasonable explanation instead of just stupid laugh emojis? 🙄
@tyzik_skyfik
@tyzik_skyfik 4 жыл бұрын
мне в машинку на радиоуправление такой нужен )
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Вопрос в том, насколько велика машина. :-)
@sumilidero
@sumilidero 4 жыл бұрын
Brass electrical fittings with impact socket? noice
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. No, copper, not brass.
@EighthHouseTarot
@EighthHouseTarot 3 жыл бұрын
WHEN YOUR MOTOR NEEDS TO BE JEWISH: MENZEL
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Menzel is you choice when your motor needs to be reliable and individualy constructed. We offer industrial motors for the most demanding quality requirements.
@Udmudmudm
@Udmudmudm Жыл бұрын
I know, I know, water and electricity don't go together....But do water-cooled engines of this size exist? We all know that heat increases the resistance of the windings and therefore decreases efficiency, air cooling is not as effective as liquid cooling, thanks
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. We just recently delivered an IC81W motor to a steel plant in Argentina. This was frame size 900 and the motor weight was 27,500 kg. So, yes, they can be big.
@ravembersnow5364
@ravembersnow5364 4 жыл бұрын
Почему моща не 10^6 л.с?
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за вопрос. Боюсь, я не совсем понимаю.
@MadFat20022002
@MadFat20022002 4 жыл бұрын
Красавцы!
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за хороший комментарий.
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 3 жыл бұрын
es klingt jedenfalls wirklich abgefahren, wenn so ein großer Motor einfach stumpf per Stern-Dreieck hochgefahren wird
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
Magst du den Sound?
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 2 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors ja sehr. Da gibt es ein Video aus einer polnischen Mine wo der Lüfter mit 1100kw so angefahren wird oder ein Kartoffelgrinder mit 130kw. Sehr geil. Der Netzbetreiber wird einen dafür jedoch maximal hassen
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 2 жыл бұрын
@@no-damn-alias :)
@leonid3312
@leonid3312 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that starting this motor is the only 30% of problem. The other 70% - how to stop it securely :)
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
if it has to be done quickly, then with a round house kick
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
the other possibility would be a maximum thrust reversal according to Captain Picard
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
the time traveler would probably go back to the beginning of the video and not let the ramp-up happen in the first place
@kofiasante6292
@kofiasante6292 Жыл бұрын
Great💪🏾🇬🇭🔥
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very interesting videos coming soon.
@vertoisful
@vertoisful 4 жыл бұрын
Need that in my car
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Are you the owner of the largest car in the world ever built?
@vertoisful
@vertoisful 4 жыл бұрын
@@MenzelMotors no but I got plenty of ratchet straps haha
@stasnet163
@stasnet163 4 жыл бұрын
О ! "Borzig" копия чешского мотора,образца1960-70г.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
Он является заменой старого двигателя Siemens 1960-х годов.
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"One day people will think that oversized electric motors are always yellow."
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"Eines Tages werden die Leute glauben, dass übergroße Elektromotoren immer gelb sind."
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"Algún día la gente pensará que los motores eléctricos de gran tamaño siempre son amarillos".
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"Un jour, les gens penseront que les moteurs électriques surdimensionnés sont toujours jaunes."
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"En dag kommer människor att tro att överdimensionerade elmotorer alltid är gula."
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 4 жыл бұрын
"Un giorno la gente penserà che i motori elettrici sovradimensionati siano sempre gialli".
@rx-8134
@rx-8134 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the motor used to rotate the earth ? 😂😂😂
@WasherMotors1400
@WasherMotors1400 3 жыл бұрын
Engines are stronger than motors
@MenzelMotors
@MenzelMotors 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that would give us a lot of power :-) The order actually came from a European oil company where a pump motor had failed.
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