the Navi is what the Cub used to be. A cheap entry motorcycle for everyone. If you want people to keep buying motorcycles, you need to get them to START buying motorcycles
@lasskinn4742 жыл бұрын
It's incredibly cheap. Its basically cheaper than honda wave in asia. How they can make it under grom price
@Blox1172 жыл бұрын
this would be so much better with a hub motor and electric conversion
@Blox1172 жыл бұрын
although really, why waste money on this when you could save this towards a unicycle
@shuntzilla15962 жыл бұрын
With gas the way it is I'm looking into one
@echomike1charlie3872 жыл бұрын
@@lasskinn474 they should bring those model here in america. Esp Kawasaki fury 125
@manishkumarsharma45982 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of Honda Navi , 5 yrs + and still running just fine. Not a single day with issue. easily touches 80km/hr on the highway. Really smooth on the lower speeds, gets through traffic easily.
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s awesome
@sargera12 жыл бұрын
Yeaj but u can tune the belt /cvt roller to more low end torque and dump thst crappy brake (we call it combi brake but actually its like a shotty single channnel ebd)
@danielleaxsom1613 Жыл бұрын
can you shift with this or nah??
@timvancourt7213 Жыл бұрын
@@danielleaxsom1613 naw, fully automatic
@Aditya_PS Жыл бұрын
@@danielleaxsom1613 nah It's a scooter to be honest
@appalachianenthusiast94992 жыл бұрын
The Navi seems like the perfect vehicle for myself. I'm currently in High School, and my commute to work is about 8 minutes for a job that pays $8.50 an hour. With the Navi, I would put $3.79 in once a week and have a pretty low overhead for getting there when accounting for maintenance. The roads on my commute never get above 45, so I'd have no trouble maintaining speed.
@grenzviel44802 жыл бұрын
you better get it then
@appalachianenthusiast94992 жыл бұрын
@@grenzviel4480 I have every intention to, I just can't afford it until February/March.
@grenzviel44802 жыл бұрын
@@appalachianenthusiast9499 Nice. Just remember you need extra for a helmet, and possibly a decent chain/lock. Because it's light, it would be pretty easy to pick up and steal. It's nice that it comes with a compartment so you can carry a chain all the time. The problem tho is that it exceeds the 50cc limit, which means you need both a car and motorcycle license. From where I live, a car license takes around 100 USD (assuming you don't fail either written or actual driving test) and if you decide to take the MSF, it's another 150 (again, if you don't fail). It's really tough getting into it. You got quite a bit of saving up to do. Good luck, bud. IMHO, it's worth it so far.
@appalachianenthusiast94992 жыл бұрын
@@grenzviel4480 I already have my DL (just got it two months ago), and apparently doing the motorcycle license in PA is $30 and that includes the class (required for those under 18)
@icestationzebraassociates24602 жыл бұрын
@@grenzviel4480 Where I live you can take a course offered by the sheriffs dept and automatically get the motorcycle endorsement added to your DL without having to take a written or driving test. Regular DL is ~30 bucks.
@NerdyMeathead2 жыл бұрын
This is still smart as hell from Honda. It will get people that would never have bought a bike into the hobby and most likely buying a better bike down the road
@rubytheelite2 жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be a new cheap (meaning not good quality)bike to get into the hobby? Your much better off learning on a nice used bike with better features for the same cost.
@jigrodrigues2 жыл бұрын
@@rubytheelite it's not only cheap, it's a new Honda so you know it's reliable plus with a warranty. And the size and weight of the thing wont scare new riders
@Voltomess2 жыл бұрын
@@jigrodrigues Well this carburated honda is not reliable people having issues with this bike he shuts off on red lights etc something wrong with carburetors.
@moneymaking112 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about getting this Navi as my first vehicle. Been looking at used cars for around $10k but everything I’ve went and looked at has been a real bust…
@loganmyers33942 жыл бұрын
I originally bought a 07 125cc Honda cbr (glorified moped) for 500$ then bought a used 600cc cbr for 800, and put 500 tires on it ,1300$ total I haven't watched the video yet but used is the way to get into bikes.. I haven't dropped one yet but better taking the chances learning on used ones your not scared to drop lol
@meetyouinhell2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Honda stopped selling this in India way back in 2019 when they figured it would get more expensive to make it meet the new BS6 emission requirements. In fact dealers were giving the Navi for free if you purchased one their more expensive motorbikes.
@axeami13542 жыл бұрын
I doubt they'd ever sell it in Europe since the regulations are plain crazy, even the hayabusa is nurfed compared the the last gen because of it. several countries are even attempting take peoples right to repair away.
@dawsonmondell12522 жыл бұрын
Those would be great for in town riding
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
What’s interesting is that these are not made in india
@TennRides2 жыл бұрын
@@BikesandBeards Dat vas a wery interesting thing to note. I vant to tank you for dat wery funny comment, Sean. Hahahaha
@andrewcorral33982 жыл бұрын
@@BikesandBeards made in Mexico 🇲🇽
@ashwanthsrinivasan43422 жыл бұрын
I drove the navi from Delhi to Leh in 2017. Installed a K&N Air filter with Akrapovic exhaust to keep up with the altitude + Auxiliary lamps bolted to the indicators for night riding in the hills. The bike lived up way more than my expectations.
@Shixamisded Жыл бұрын
Damn good brother 👍
@pareshnayak2988 Жыл бұрын
You, my friend, are a madman.😂
@frotobaggins71692 жыл бұрын
an interesting fact about Centralia is that the fire was originally started by the local town government. The state had outlawed the burning of garbage and the town disagreed and burned the garbage anyways, starting the fire that would eventually wipe the town off the map completely. The snow plowing budget did fall to zero though.
@Carado51502 жыл бұрын
Still a few houses left.
@jeffrykopis54682 жыл бұрын
I once knew a girl from Centralia. Who caught The Clap in Australia. She got it in Sydney. It damaged a kidney. Now she drips from her genitalia. I've been waiting to use that. 😆
@davepelfrey39582 жыл бұрын
@@jeffrykopis5468 , kinda wishing you hadn't. 🤣🤣
@jeffrykopis54682 жыл бұрын
@@davepelfrey3958 I kinda expected that 😆
@chrishalling85182 жыл бұрын
@@Carado5150 Yeah the mayor's house, a few up on the hill with the orthodox church and then the fire station is still standing as well.
@Pragy2 жыл бұрын
Navi was discontinued here in India in 2020. It was like $800 brand new! Sadly it didn’t sell as much. Still a fun little bike with Honda’s reliability
@kshitiznavediya25592 жыл бұрын
Its boring and slow compared honda Activa
@vincedibona46872 жыл бұрын
So’s yer face.
@md_randoms24292 жыл бұрын
I would feel like it would be a perfect bike for indias roads
@SwagaliciousPimp2 жыл бұрын
Rip
@kloppskalli2 жыл бұрын
@@md_randoms2429 you need 21 inch wheels
@thndr_5468 Жыл бұрын
For someone with a passing interest in motorcycles, this seems like a fun weekend toy. I'm glad Honda is still making cheap bikes
@bryanrb212 жыл бұрын
The Navi is perfect for someone who doesn't have much money and just needs a way to get to work and back home. I think its a bargain for under 2k and the mpg. 💯
@Ladosligese2 жыл бұрын
well my moped .. yes moped wich i use to get to work does 112 mpg but sadly only does 40mph haha but hey its cheap and so on, with these gasprices .. yach
@grooviefan2 жыл бұрын
You won’t find one of these for under 2K
@joelm66312 жыл бұрын
@@schrodingersmechanic7622 the conversation ended at twice the price 🤣...
@Daniel-dj7fh2 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, a half decent bicycle would have made more sense imo. Or something like the Kymco k125
@fedicamptv2 жыл бұрын
It’s so small tho you could get a bigger and cooler one for maybe 1,000 more
@PrithuDeb2 жыл бұрын
This thing is based on the Honda Activa scooter available in India. In 2016-17, I can't exactly remember, when were shifting from bs3 to bs4 pollution norms, dealers with huge stocks had very little time to sell them off within the stipulated time. So these Honda Navi were given free on the purchase of every Honda CBR 250 back then!
@CoreyReacts Жыл бұрын
A couple days ago my wife and I both bought bikes I got the 2023 Grom she got the Navi she grew up riding bigger bikes and I grew up to NEVER ride lol we have been riding none stop on 45mph roads and she LOVES her Navi. Only big difference is she doesn’t have to shift and anytime I need to store something she has that storage compartment lol. She doesn’t care to shift or worry about gears. I drive a manual car and NEED to shift. I’m not sure why but I just love manuals. Anyways this Navi is a killer bike for a beginner or someone just over the cool factor of shifting lol. Wouldn’t recommend for anything 55MPh and up
@briancooper53082 жыл бұрын
Been riding for 46 years and will be buying 2. Just bought a house in the Ozarks and the Navi will be perfect for the 40mph curvy roads used to get to the stores. Will keep a regular MC for the serious rides.
@technocatdance2 жыл бұрын
For this bike I actually like that you don't have to switch gears, been riding bikes long enough that I don't need the novelty of it anymore ...just like automatic cars I don't care if I can shift myself unless I was driving a sports car, and the price is amazing honda knows how to make what people want when it comes to these bikes
@Mr.Beastforpresident2 жыл бұрын
What is this Channel turning into???? Review the got damn motorcycle and cut the BULLSHIT
@Grandpaneedsblood2 жыл бұрын
It's like a moped
@ServeraServera02 жыл бұрын
@@Grandpaneedsblood It's because it is in disguise
@grinsler2jz2 жыл бұрын
I bought one at the start of the summer, just about 1,000 miles on it now and loved every second. The compartment up front is amazing, this is our small grocery getter in many situations. Do not regret it one bit, amazing little bike.
@billyjones1873 Жыл бұрын
Never been on a bike, is this highway legal?
@grinsler2jz Жыл бұрын
@@billyjones1873 I take mine on the highway all the time. Has plates amd is registered. Never the interstate as she tops out at 48! Highways around me are 45-55 mpg so works fine enough for my smaller town
@paulmcneill26662 жыл бұрын
I rode one of these in Kerala, India . Through flood damaged banana plantations . I have no off-road Experience and if I was on a bigger bike I think I would have been stuck. This little bike got me through the terrible conditions. I also enjoyed riding it on the beach roads. I think they are absolutely brilliant little bikes. Great video guys really enjoyed it had a little chuckle as well.
@Cheenu462 жыл бұрын
It is not sold in India anymore
@BlackMamba-lt8oe2 жыл бұрын
garbage
@GiancarloFloyd2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for something for my parents to tote around in their RV and I almost bought them a grom but I was worried about my mom riding it with the gears on it I ended up getting a Navi and they love it the little compartment on the bottom is always filled with fishing gear and sunscreen and stuff like that and it fits perfectly on the back of their RV. In a couple months I’d like to get them another one.
@SilverScarletSpider2 жыл бұрын
thank you for being humble and giving honda’s are fair shake down unlike some other motorcycle youtubers
@silkmonkey2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thing I kind of want to have in my garage for the local 50mph and under roads...as a non-rider. Feels like something to help introduce a friend to riding without the...not sure what....of a full size bike even a small one. And the price is awesome.
@RockandrollNegro2 жыл бұрын
"Intimidation and learning factor" of becoming a bike rider. Non-bikers probably don't know how to shift gears or brake with the hand. The average bike now is too heavy to be picked up by one person if it goes down. The Honda C90 had a semiautomatic transmission and weighed less than 200lbs, and it was the best selling vehicle of all time because anyone with four limbs could get on it and safely operate it within seconds, and we need more bikes like this. Conventional wisdom in America since 1975 is that bikes that can't do 70mph on the interstate have no market, because people that want something for cities and towns will just get a moped. Yet we see with the Grom and the flood of 125cc Chinese bikes that there is a huge untapped market in the US that doesn't want a 450-1400cc twin.
@kurtmakeemhurt66572 жыл бұрын
Just bought one. Having a blast. I weigh 180. Definitely difficult to hit 50 mph. I’d say 45 is average. If wind is heavy than 40
@t3kado6342 жыл бұрын
Hope you understand how valuable Craig is. He is literally only reason we watch.
@fermiparadox67872 жыл бұрын
Only?
@Meekerextreme2 жыл бұрын
@@fermiparadox6787 Yup
@eduardpocnet12742 жыл бұрын
The storage compartment part was actually hilarious. Well done!!!
@neiljoseph13232 жыл бұрын
I remember in 2018 in India when the emission norms were made stricter....all the dealerships had like a week to get rid of old inventory....the local Honda dealer was giving one of these away for free with every purchase of the CBR 250.... Was a crazy good deal..
@beefnacos62582 жыл бұрын
makes sense why it hit the states.
@BlackMamba-lt8oe2 жыл бұрын
not free 😂😂😂😂, this was garbage product in india
@BlackMamba-lt8oe2 жыл бұрын
@@beefnacos6258 bcoz its garbage its sales was pathetic in india thats y
@JustMamba2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe I mean it's good as a commuter bike. Gas is expensive af right now. It has a moped engine in it. It's a moped dressed up as a bike. Cheap and good to save some gas.
@ineedmorecarrots60632 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe its a bike if youre just going around the corner to go to your nearest grocery store
@TheMrSupermoto2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a motorcycle and a scooter I totally get the appeal of these. To me they both have different uses but I hate how people don’t take you serious on a scooter. I think one of these would be a perfect replacement while maintaining all the qualities I value in a scooter.
@ironwolfF12 жыл бұрын
Given that it's basically a scooter disguised as motorcycle, I can see that.
@DatPeteBoi2 жыл бұрын
I understand that when people don’t really take you serious on a scooter at all. But scooters are cool anyway!
@fools_opinions2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand those type of bikers, I always nod to scooter riders, it's not like a different seating position means you don't have exactly the same challenges on the road as any other biker. Only rode a scooter once for training but it was brilliant fun and I am kinda jealous that you get an auto gearbox it makes things so easy.
@nikkirenee94282 жыл бұрын
While me and my guy were on his Harley we were behind a guy on a scooter and the back of his helmet said “it’s not a competition, loser.” We loved it lol
@kingbaboon1145 Жыл бұрын
This still isnt a motorcycle.
@imagitrax83922 жыл бұрын
I have one, and I love the thing. When my car broke, I used it as my daily driver. I use the thing to run around and to save gas ever since gas prices went up, and I love riding it as an (almost) daily driver whenever weather is decent. It’s not the greatest for 55 mph roads, but it’s amazing for in-town use.
@glenklimek16622 жыл бұрын
Love to see you guys try to some performance upgrades to these. Bigger carb, get rid of that stupid exhaust, better brakes, etc. See how much more horsepower you can get out of them on the Dyno. That would make some awesome content for the channel.
@Sweethustles2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! That way I can get ideas on how to make mine faster lol
@niclaskarlin2 жыл бұрын
Mount some disc brakes. Maybe weld on a bar from the seat to the steering column (?) to make it stiffer.
@bAc0nBoY7552 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@kevincornell14392 жыл бұрын
its a scooter so just get a bigger scooter engine.
@cujoedaman2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincornell1439 More like "it's a scooter, just get a bigger motorcycle". This is like trying to put a turbo on a 2000 Saturn which is literally geared for gas mileage, not speed (I should know, I own one).
@Supercell7252 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you guys are more entertaining that most of the stuff on tv. Lots of smiles and spontaneous laughter here with the guys watching your Navi test drive.
@FrotLopOfficial2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is TV? Is that the ancient technology that uses VHS tapes?
@MisfitoX2 жыл бұрын
What weird comment. Only old people watches tv nowadays.
@Supercell7252 жыл бұрын
@@MisfitoX I’m old and bold, word MFX
@dreamonline19965 ай бұрын
I bought one of these after this video, I had it about 4 months and laid it down after a rain. Waited about a year and got into a Rebel. Honda did exactly what they were hoping with this bike. An introduction to motorcycles and I’ll forever love that lil thing, although never owning one again.
@dakarpsi2 жыл бұрын
A fun challenge would be to have you and Greg separately try to get the most power out of them. Can you install a turbo, a bigger carb, high flow exhaust. How far can you take it?
@Captain_Yodelstein2 жыл бұрын
I just can not believe how much stuff Craig was able to get into that storage compartment. Very impressive.
@andrewcarter2152 жыл бұрын
lol
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
Craig is talented
@Poorgeniu52 жыл бұрын
Didn't knew Craig has an degree in Quantum Physics!
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
@@Poorgeniu5 he’s a wizard
@Captain_Yodelstein2 жыл бұрын
@@BikesandBeards, makes sense...he does have a beard!
@jamesallenmainieri2 жыл бұрын
I love these classic top gear style competitions you two do. Also keep putting that ethanol free gas in those, (as well as anything carbed that the fuel can sit in for a few weeks at a time) those ancient dinosaurs that are carburetors will thank you
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@markallen87572 жыл бұрын
Luckily I've got ethanol free at the gas hole right by my house, I've been treating apart and rebuilding a kawasaki vulcan 800 I got from a woman who had recently lost her husband, and it will never have ethanol gas in it again because that gum was so gnarly. It's almost back in shape.
@lazydaisy73362 жыл бұрын
This was the most entertaining video I’ve watched in a while. Thanks for the laughs. I knew I liked it for a reason, I’m a 63yr young grandma. My kind of bike or scooter. I love it!
@manaaalsuwaidi36432 жыл бұрын
God bless you 👍🏻
@steezy20342 жыл бұрын
I hope your grandkids know how cool you are
@manayunkman832 жыл бұрын
Centralia is the most interesting after a lot of snow is on the ground. You can see Centralia then from pretty far away because there is no snow where the fire is. When you go there with snow, you know right where things are still burning, and where it is mostly safe.
@JustMamba2 жыл бұрын
Motorcycles are getting so damn popular now cuz of gas prices.. last year I checked the msf safety course and they had open slots every week. My local msf is booked 4 months in advance now.
@TheSocketshock2 жыл бұрын
The thing that scares the shit out of me is the fact that a soccer mom whos yelling at her kids in the back can accelerate faster than you. seems dangerously underpowered. you can't escape getting run down from behind by someone not paying attention
@whistlinlipo2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting Craig to be pulling the buggy😂😂
@colmaw29032 жыл бұрын
I want to know who they stole the buggy from lol
@JoJoHits193 ай бұрын
You should totally just pass that Navi my way I need it
@kokobeatz72222 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these and thought perfect for my dad to get into riding. He’s old and has never ridden but wants to get good gas mileage. And with it being an automatic, it’s literally perfect and cheap!
@ranajaydeb29062 жыл бұрын
We in India never considered it as a motorcycle. We knew it as a scooter with the tried and tested 110cc Honda Activa engine(I have an Activa at home XD). It was discontinued when the BSVI norms kicked in and if it were to be made BSVI compliant it would be obnoxiously overpriced. It is still produced in HMSI plant and goes there via CKD route. The engine is dead reliable and can withstand more than 100k Kms. I rode it once and it feels faster than it goes actually. Hope USA enjoys what India did.
@brucegraner5901 Жыл бұрын
Even though I don't own a bike I've always been intrigued by the Honda From and now the Navi. Probably too small for me but I've also been looking at E-bikes. I wonder how these would compare to the Talaria Sting R or the Sauron? I'd be much more interested in seeing how these stack up against each other in real world use against each other than against a mini van. However, I'm very glad to see you producing videos again.
@BraydonIsGodlyAtRust Жыл бұрын
I think the surron would be more fun depending on what you want. I have a grom and I love it.
@JoelCreates2 жыл бұрын
I like what you guys are doing, great narrative to get to know the Navi, I want to come next time
@times10132 жыл бұрын
Saw this on my recommended after I got one myself back in February. I’m a new rider and it’s pretty easy to ride and the MPG is amazing. My mom who used to ride when she was younger loves it because it’s a cheap bike and can go pretty much anywhere where we live. Great for getting some food too with the storage compartment.
@qwaszxpolkmncvb Жыл бұрын
Being a huge fan of the Metro I'm interested in seeing how well the Navi retains it's resale value. It'd also be interesting to see the Navi with EFI.
@stephaniewells86712 жыл бұрын
I have a bike similar to the Navi, and it was definitely a great bike to start riding. Needless to say, I'm in love and already looking for a more powerful bike to upgrade my current one. The Navi is a smart move by Honda and that price is unbeatable
@kathrynmallary54692 жыл бұрын
Love this! I’ve always wanted to go to Centralia. I rode a Honda Ruckus around Philly for years. The Ruckus is comically mean looking and doesn’t hide the fact that it’s a scooter. The Navi reminds me of the Tomos Targa moped. At the end of the day, anything cheap with 2 wheels is a good time.
@TEEDUBS Жыл бұрын
Great throwback to the old Top Gear Chernobyl episode!
@donalddevall71842 жыл бұрын
"The cbr changed the way we get hurt" Lmao. The Centralia intro definitely had some Fortnine vibes to it. Really like how this video was done. Good job guys!
@SlimTony2 жыл бұрын
Man, the Navi really is what the Super Cub should be. Cheap, easy to ride, accessible, practical. Instead, we got a cub with a wireless key fob and unneccessary electronics for twice the price of the Navi
@keinkein5102 жыл бұрын
the navi wont last a long time and when i take a look at the brakes, maybe the driver wont, too. the Cub is a modern bike with ABS und will last for a lifetime. in the end, its the cheaper motorbike. the navi is a bike foor poor people only.
@Phonehomefool2 жыл бұрын
@@keinkein510 Ok hater
@keinkein5102 жыл бұрын
@@Phonehomefool haha!
@srikarunvinith4073 Жыл бұрын
I saw this in 2017, in India, most of the parts of this bike are from a Honda scooter called Activa.
@derek170052 жыл бұрын
I see several buyers for this: The first time riders, those of us that have big, heavy bikes and just want to get out quickly and ride a handful of miles, and those who need the gas mileage. Heck, at $1,800, it's cheaper than most scooters nowadays too.
@Voltomess2 жыл бұрын
prices are ridiculous up to $4k OTD
@Edward-Not-Elric2 жыл бұрын
@@Voltomess Yeah, OTD for these things is insane. Nobody is going to be satisfied with such an insane upcharge. Doubt we'll get many new riders from the Navi with dealers pricing it like they are.
@SuperiorNo12 жыл бұрын
@@Voltomess Meanwhile in Rip off UK 🇬🇧 £5k for a Brand New Top End Yamaha Honda Kawasaki 125 😂😭😈
@shaneintegra2 жыл бұрын
These things are actually pretty amazing for a cheap commuter vehicle with plenty of storage that gets awesome gas mileage. Can't wait for people to start modifying them
@ChatGPT11112 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Storage? He could only get one pitch fork in there!
@tadeuszkolak49372 жыл бұрын
Thinking of getting one to get around my little college town.
@michaeldubovsky87742 жыл бұрын
This top gear UK format is great keep this up
@Cheenu462 жыл бұрын
We used to have honda Navi here in India in 2016 it is literally the same (well I won't call it a motorcycle) it flopped and during emission norms upgrade they gave a Navi free with every cbr250r purchased and the Navi costed around 650usd here (in direct conversion) new.
@bigrob75312 жыл бұрын
India is a wild Market for bikes it seems, scooter and small cc everywhere and anything high cc is massive cost
@Cheenu462 жыл бұрын
@@bigrob7531 big dogs are taxed at 150% import duty here that is the issue and Indian government won't allow imports of anything less than 700cc in 2 wheels as it will affect the domestic manufacturers if our domestic manufacturers come along with something big people will be like "why should I shel out this much for a brand like this" same applies to the cars but in cars we cant go below 2lit for imports 😭
@omdeshkar42902 жыл бұрын
@@bigrob7531 one of reson of small cc is ..petrol(gas) is hell a costly here like we get 1 gallon for 500INR i.e. 6.5 us dollar per gallon
@bigrob75312 жыл бұрын
@@omdeshkar4290 haha over here in the US at the moment we are not far behind I'm at 5.25
@Random-ed2xf2 жыл бұрын
Driving in India looks insane from what I have seen.
@honkerman742 жыл бұрын
Essence of motorcycle. I’m guessing these are the two first Navi’s that came in at Lancaster Honda. I sat on one and observed that yeah, they’re cheap, but they are the perfect tool for basic commuting. Sure, it’s an underbone design with a CVT, but if you take it for what it is: a tool rather than a toy, it works. It won’t win any races or beauty pageants, but at the 1800 price point, it may just get more people on two wheels, which is a good thing. So yeah, btw, if one of the seats smelled slightly of old farts, that would have been me. Not sorry.
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
more gas to cause cancer, death, pollution, climate change, line the corporations pockets! amazing
@honkerman74 Жыл бұрын
@@superstar5123 oh shut up. Go spout your propaganda someplace else.
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
@@honkerman74 Not propaganda, science. But you wouldn't be able to distinctly define either of those words, would you?
@honkerman74 Жыл бұрын
@@superstar5123 I'm not going to argue with a random anonymous account on KZbin. Feel free to revel in your false feelings of superiority. This conversation isn't worth my time.
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
@@honkerman74 Your statement is an oxymoron. You claim I am not worth your time, yet you took the time to respond. You claim you don't want to argue, yet you proceed to attack my character. Who is really the fool with a superiority complex?
@ruthroseverhaegh66772 жыл бұрын
I went to my local motorsports shop, and three Navi’s sold in a week in my area. They’re adorable, and my friend liked them and might start motorcycling on one
@powdertrax97422 жыл бұрын
With gas approaching $5 a gallon here in Washington State, me wanting a Ruckus is becoming more and more a reality. I can’t believe how cheap these things run, I paid $5500 for one of my mtn bikes and $2700 for the other which is what a new Ruckus goes for
@kitsachie.2 жыл бұрын
The price of bicycles is extremely inflated, it's almost criminal. Pretty much every bicycle in the world is made by the same factory in Taiwan, the rest is just branding and marketing.
@luis_mx55842 жыл бұрын
Makes me happy I just picked up a 09 Ruckus for a $1,200 quite a steal
@randomDaved2 жыл бұрын
I love the inexpensive bike idea, like this and the Grom and similar small bikes. Especially with our current oil and gas prices. I just wish more of the platforms supported tall riders. I'm 6'7" and I almost bought a Grom, and still want a small displacement bike, but these little guys just don't have the size and power for someone my size to get around town while still keeping 40-50mph speed limits. :( Normal height people get all the fun.
@anesthetized70532 жыл бұрын
get a tw200, they are a little more expensive but work well for taller riders especially with a seat riser. great little dualsport bike that will go 70 easy if you go for a bigger rear gear. i loved mine but sadly it got stolen
@dylanlockler10392 жыл бұрын
trail 125
@randomDaved2 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying the suggestions. The one I've recently been looking at for a small commuter is the KTM Duke 200. But I'm going to check out some of these other ones.
@siraff44612 жыл бұрын
I'm only 5'9 but 21 stone and my Grom (MSX) does just fine. Try one out if you haven't already. Its not much good once you need to go fast but upto about 40 its decent enough and 50 is fine in all but the steepest of hills. After that you're going to need some luck and usually a tail wind but its also one of the most fun bikes you can ride around town. My 'busa never comes out for short or low speed rides anymore.
@randomDaved2 жыл бұрын
@@siraff4461 many of the speed limits near me are 45 - 55 on back roads and that's a good variety of hills. I'm worried a Grom will struggle to get my 220lb tall frame up quick enough to not get run over by a minivan, or a pissed off teen in a jacked up diesel pickup. I love the look and idea of the Grom though. That's what renewed my riding interest.
@TheDaReel9 ай бұрын
My wife and I spend the winters in the Dominican Republic, and to get around we bought a couple Indian-made Navis. We love them !!! Easy to fix and fun to zip around on.
@joshdudash14182 жыл бұрын
With that spacious storage compartment, and no expectation of highway speeds for this bike, I believe Honda will release an electric version if this version sells well.
@roynelson76132 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty big upgrade from a moped at least it looks like more of a motorcycle and the way gas prices people probably going to start buying these if they can find them hope you guys are having a great one thanks for another cool video you guys 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😎👊🏽👊🏽
@nybergsgarage2 жыл бұрын
without pedals, though, they'll never truly be a replacement for the moped.
@oldninjarider2 жыл бұрын
Buy a Monkey, it gets better mileage.
@derek170052 жыл бұрын
@@oldninjarider Agreed, but it's also at least $1,500 more or, almost 2 for 1 more expensive.
@leepicgamer33202 жыл бұрын
@@derek17005 Yeah but monkey is just better in every way
@Ladosligese2 жыл бұрын
My moped does 112 mpg :-p 40 mph on a good day ofc :D
@larrymurphy37326 ай бұрын
Love it. You should do a giveaway with those little guys.
@EricDeKirkwood992 жыл бұрын
I have one of these reserved for me and my gf when my dealership gets them in. Super excited for that 110mpg with current gas prices.
@MrDesk452 жыл бұрын
Mine gets 60mpg redlining at 45mph
@suvankarsengupta74812 жыл бұрын
I had owned one of these in india( 2016) Well i live in darjeeling, it used to go smoothly ,no hurry,topspeed of 81kmph. And around 8bhp in papers . It was fun filtering through traffic and corners due to a bit stiff rear suspension compared to others scooters,it didn't had a footbrake(it had a left brake lever) and even didnt had a fuel gauge either,still a fun bike/scooter
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
km just gives you a bigger number
@Walker_Mcloud Жыл бұрын
I would love too see you two making more trips! It would be the perfect thing I've been missing. Like the old top gear UK specials.
@prettybluesilverado85982 жыл бұрын
Who else 100 percent knows sean is gonna find a way to make the navi faster and more dangerous/fun
@lucasrustt2 жыл бұрын
I hope so
@niclaskarlin2 жыл бұрын
Make it a challenge with Greg!
@TroyC682 жыл бұрын
For sure a good size Harbor Freight engine will fit them nicely :D
@ryanjhardy2 жыл бұрын
I wanna know a way to make it slower so it can be classified as a class B vehicle according to NYS DMV
@davidjoeseph26462 жыл бұрын
If only dealers werent marking these up by 1000 plus dollars
@thatguyjd2812 жыл бұрын
Had my Navi for 4 months now got a little under 2,000 miles no problems no complaints
@xpndblhero51702 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this, I can see this being a Fantastic starter bike but people are buying 2 and 3 or more at a time then selling them for more so they're hard to get... I'd like a Grom but they're way too expensive for what you get, then you have to do a bunch of mods to make it worth it but these Navis are kind of cool. I'm a huge fan of electric bikes for beginners and I feel like they should make a small cheap bike like a Grom but w/ a high powered electric motor that can be upgraded whenever the rider wants more power... Some of the electric hub motors can be upgraded in multiple ways so I could see an electric Grom/Navi being a great starter bike but also after a few upgrades it could be SUPER fast and awesome for a small stunt bike. Also if you don't want one of those Navis, I'd be willing to buy it off you.... I don't live too far from Silent Hill, I mean Centralia. 😁😂
@AppleUploader2 жыл бұрын
Electric is wack
@Edit_the_edit2 жыл бұрын
I actually would like to have one, teach my kids how to ride and have fun on a bike. Great video guys. I love seeing so many familiar places (I live in 717) just wish I could have bought a bike from you when the shop was open!
@snailevangelist8 ай бұрын
the honda navi is genius as an urban transportation scooter. approachable, cheap, reliable, yet blends in with all of the groms and other minibikes out there.
@andreperry79952 жыл бұрын
I like the bike and bought me one. This bike got great reviews with other KZbinrs that rides motorcycles. 👌
@HannibalXoner2 жыл бұрын
these guys are literally the (old) top gear of motorcycles
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
what are you trying to say
@abelfonseca2 жыл бұрын
One of the best youtube videos ever.
@iBraap2 жыл бұрын
Sold about 12 of these in the last week at my dealership, good timing for fuel being $4/gallon.
@BikesandBeards2 жыл бұрын
Great timing
@sahilmalla65792 жыл бұрын
These bikes exist in America ???
@iBraap2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, we’re in the Midwest and have received a bunch of them already.
@sahilmalla65792 жыл бұрын
@@iBraap Oh , I thought you guys were into big stuff and Honda wouldn't even dare to sell Navi there .
@locodiablo8130 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a cheap get around town scooter for use at my summer place on Cape Cod.... This looks Great for the price, AND there are actually a few locally available, compared to the Cub (none to be found near me) $2k cheaper than a Cub.. I currently have 2 Harley's in my garage... This would be strictly for beach area use.
@paulinoo2 Жыл бұрын
Get a grom 125 MSX from honda, it's perfect for you describe
@wild_goose_02852 жыл бұрын
I think the best part about bikes and beards is the fact their dad humour is always on point.
@mayankverma6772 жыл бұрын
This bike cost 800 dollars in india
@maynellrodrigues98622 жыл бұрын
Had those in India since 2017 🙂🙂. 108cc 8.4bhp 10nm. The ones in American version seems restricted
@andrewtucker79902 жыл бұрын
That beat that played, as y’all were going down graffiti road, was actually pretty dope.
@codycampbell1147 Жыл бұрын
but legitimatly what do you think of the grom or kawasiki z125? max speed like 60mph (maybe 70 down hill) and like above 100miles per gallon small enough to bring right in the front door when you get home lol in my own opinion this would be a nice cheap get around my smallish town (7000people) type of bike that gets good MPG
@domenik8339 Жыл бұрын
I would look into the Honda trail as well if you ever plan on going offroad or are rural, or even the adv 150.
@lucasarbuckle7205 Жыл бұрын
@@domenik8339 honda trail with no low gear and no clutch is under powered for off road. unless you mean a flat dirt fire road
@dangerdylan50052 жыл бұрын
i like the navi. i like all bikes. i wrecked my xr600 yesterday
@bingusclub69funni2 жыл бұрын
I like how ur cheapest bikes are like 1800 dollars and the average bike here in Bangladesh costs around 1300
@nigelpereira292 жыл бұрын
The honda Navi was launched in India in 2016 for approximately $1000
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again2 жыл бұрын
😮
@Voltomess2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile US stealers charge up to $4k OTD
@omdeshkar42902 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@randomworld46622 жыл бұрын
This bike is really cute and nice for young people's and BTW I enjoy your video I never know about centralia thanks for the information!😆
@gerboblitz8 ай бұрын
who needs the Grand tour when you have this channel now! Great stuff. keep it up!
@mjbb72 жыл бұрын
5000 years from now whoever finds graffiti highway is going to say "these primitive people made a huge flat concrete row with mounds. They must have been burial sights."
@dulanpramuditha24872 жыл бұрын
Nice review , Feels like a story ⭐💕🤙
@sergeiyakubov6191 Жыл бұрын
Feels like an advertising :)
@danielbraganza6375 Жыл бұрын
Check out Honda's series of scooters called Activa. Navi uses the same engine and wheels with a different body structure. They are brilliant scooters and easily beat any moped available in the US.
@helloitsdawn2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the used market so I can actually purchase it for $1807 rather than the exorbitant mark up. Interesting ride, though.
@Voltomess2 жыл бұрын
yep prices are ridiculous up to $4k OTD
@rednwhitecooper2 жыл бұрын
Paid $1807 for mine. Every dealer charges destination and setup. Stop whining.
@Voltomess2 жыл бұрын
@@rednwhitecooper YEP $1807 OTD SURE YOU DID 🤣🤣🤣
@rednwhitecooper2 жыл бұрын
@@Voltomess preordered it and picked it up about two weeks ago. Not my fault you have a shitty dealership.
@exposingthetruth38212 жыл бұрын
Credit. I get 0 APR and travel to a MSRP dealer, reside in a no sales tax state. I'll go try to find one, if it's under 2k I will get one for my kid to ride to kindergarten :) 😀 😃 🙂
@Lux_Solari5 ай бұрын
As a PA man myself you just picked out a 2 1/2 hour ride for me and the boys i always forget about central
@senpai162 жыл бұрын
Its sad how long it took me to realise you guys were taking a piss with the "what did you bring" bit lmaooo hilarious!
@mattwoodall2325 Жыл бұрын
I live in Ecuador and bought a Honda CG 110 for $1,750. The honda dealer had a Navi sitting next to it for about $2,400. These little bikes are great fun and perfect for Local transportation
@shoup28822 жыл бұрын
I now live 5 miles from what is left of Centralia, I remember as a child riding through Centralia with my parents on the way to visit my grandparents in nearby Ringtown. Remember when Centralia was a vibrant town with a motorcycle shop in the middle of town.
@ironreed26542 жыл бұрын
I like the proportions better then the Grom.
@SRMS266 ай бұрын
The navi was given for free in India in last month of BS 4 emission standard when you bought a CBR .
@Averageguyfitness2 жыл бұрын
Who is sitting at home watching this right now on June 22nd 2022 when gas prices are at $5+ A gallon. And wondering how good it used to be to just fill your bike up willy-nilly without spending $60+ on every fill up
@salemcripple Жыл бұрын
The fires have actually burnt past Centralia last i heard. They're encroaching on neighboring towns though. The biggest problem with the area is mine collapse.
@ballzdiggity Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Cameraman Dan in his awesome LWC’s Officer David Dorn memorial shirt. Love the support of such a great man’s family.
@dpurulez2 жыл бұрын
$1800 is too much considering it was available under $700 here in India and still didn't sell much. Ngl it had multiple issues for long time usage. Not suited for tough indian conditions.
@frankierusso1252 Жыл бұрын
You guys are literally filming your own TV show great job
@DutchedShedBuilds Жыл бұрын
Mate… get a woodburning stove in there mate. Keeps your coffee warm also😉. Just use your “call of the spanner wand” to get one!