1 Big Problem...Asus ROG Harpe Ace x AIMLAB Edition

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Do you think the software stuff is a dealbreaker?

[@lunayconsuela]

Yep, I have a ROG Spathe X and only have the software installed on an old laptop, I don't let it anywhere near my main PC since it has an Asus mainboard and graphics card and messes with everything. The Aimlab integration is unusable for me as well as it resets my onboard memory. see my post below.

[@karl.Kolerika]

Armoury Crate - it can even get worse when you try to remove it completly. This Software is the perfect example why you should use an extra PC / Laptop just for setting up your mouse / keyboard. It can really kill your operating system, f*cking up registry and more. Companies should accept that we want small standallone software for our mice.

[@m4gg0t18]

The software is terrible

[@UpgradeLemonade]

​​@@lllhunterlll9644 I have about 10-15 different mouse software installed on my computer..... Literally none, not one was a mess to install and then function like armory crate. I didn't do anything special beyond a typical installation. A general user shouldn't have to tinker with basic peripheral software. that's the point I was making. NOW if you have it running well that's fine but it's a review of my experience...also I would argue you didn't clearly watch my review, I never said this was a bad mouse. Like at all .... I literally said the software and Aimlabs Collab hold it back w bit ..... but as a mouse for $150 it's definitely deserving of being in the conversation with elites like the viper V2 pro or Vaxee XE... and that its phenomenally built. I even state if anyone has interest, to buy the mouse for the hardware cause it's great! But not for the Aimlabs settings optimizer alone

[@lunayconsuela]

@@lllhunterlll9644 I'm not going to bother explaining all that as I'm pretty sure you won't be able to solve it as neither me nor Aimlab nor Asus support could solve it.

[@comgeturs]

I've been using this mouse for a few weeks now. I love everything about it.

[@Tuegay123]

Everything? Are there any inconveniences or atleast minor ones? I was seriously considering this one or the pulsar x2. Please help!

[@Carandtechtalks]

Can you tell me is buying mousepad worth it?

[@dusheyo6769]

@@Tuegay123 Only thing I hate actually about this mouse is software. Otherwise.. It is awesome. Good thing about SW is that you can just install it and don't care about it for the rest of the time and it will be saying the battery percentage. I am also using it for the few weeks and as an upgrade from g703 - perfect. (Logitechs software ain't much better tbf)

[@Vibrant__]

I have a glorious model o2 rn, and i need a new mousepad and mouse soon because they are both kinda worn down. Should i go for the harpe ace and a artisen zero? I play valorant

[@pyle_vi]

every time i watch one of your videos, i',m always amazed how you don't have at least 100k subscribers. love your channel man!

[@UpgradeLemonade]

appreciate the kind words and glad you vibe with the channel homie :)

[@SRG_T3MP4]

Been using the harpe ace for a week now only problem I’m having is getting the settings optimizer to work the start button is blank

[@gamist8166]

At this point in my life, I realize asus and aimlab branding on a mouse will literally double its worth from normal if say, a startup made the thing. Now I watch out of curiosity to see if I'm right

[@hondacar]

I enjoy using this mouse and at present, it has been one of my favourites, however, after a month of usage the left button's clicking sound is not as crisp and I've experienced the button on occasion becoming stuck.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Oh damn, someone to look out for :/

[@Tuegay123]

@@lllhunterlll9644 oh it's a standard mech switch isn't it? Then it should be able to be desoldered and changed with another switch

[@murraymcm1]

It's a great mouse. Armory Crate sucks but can be removed after setting up the mouse and updating firmware. Use ASUS' Armory crate removal tool to remove it.

[@Crarshall]

just got the mouse and my only complaint coming from the Deathadder v3 Pro is that the mouse doesn't go to sleep properly it seems. Everything else seems to be an improvement

[@phucnguyen0110]

Quick update on my end: Ran into a slight issue when I remove the bundled grip tape from the mouse click - one of them actually got popped out from the chassis. I had to unscrew the mouse (located in the 2 bottom small feet of the mouse), and was able to pop back the click to the correct position. That was a scary one!

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Woah that's some strong grip tape damn

[@phucnguyen0110]

@@UpgradeLemonade yup - I have to be very careful with removing the other one, and luckily I got that lol. Just a slight warning for those who use the default grip tape.

[@RonSwanson1]

I would have had the same experience but I was holding down the mouse button as hard as I could while pulling that shittape off. Looks cool, functions like crap. Pulsar supergrip tape is hands down the best thing on the market right now.

[@phucnguyen0110]

@@RonSwanson1 oh really, can you tell me a bit more? Thinking of grabbing a set as soon as my salary arrives.

[@RonSwanson1]

@@phucnguyen0110 sure thing, it's extremely grippy and you can buy the universal sheet and cut your own pieces. I rotate mice a lot and I get about 3 mice per sheet depending on where you want the tape. My hands get sweaty and I don't have any issues with the tape slipping, also you can just clean off any dirt buildup and they always keep about 80-90% of the original grip. Corepads grips are my next choice but these took the number one spot.

[@Aeorthian]

DPI multiplied by sensitivity is equal to your mouse's CM/360 (how many centimeters you need to move the mouse to do a 360 in a game). DPI is not a set category value like 400 or 800 1600 dpi as you were saying. It is very similar to sensitivity, except it is the hardware version of sensitivity. Therefore, when it was recommending 1050 DPI it was equivalent to it recommending you a change in your sensitivity. As for why it does both sensitivity and dpi, I am not sure.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

I'm well aware of that but recommending such an uncommon dpi such as 1050 is very odd. Vast majority of gamers use 400,800,1600,3200 and a lot of mice manufacturers use those defaults. There really isn't any benefit either way but it complicates the conversion for no reason to use 1050.

[@Aeorthian]

True. Although, most gaming mice now have finely adjustable dpi capability. On another note, it is weird that their sensitivity finder is free but their DPI finder is not. It looks to me like there is no point to the DPI finder as you can just use the sensitivity finder instead for free. In my opinion, it seems that there is no point in buying the mouse for mouse cm/360 optimization.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@Aeorthian ya that was my point overall in the video , the whole Aimlabs integration feels half baked and an afterthought

[@flamechicken415]

is the armory crate thing still bad?

[@phucnguyen0110]

Got it on sale through a local area event near my place, roughly 100+ USD converted. Probably the best p/p gaming mouse I've ever bought (the 2 most recent purchases I got, are a fully boxed Pulsar X2 Medium for like ~90 USD, and a non-boxed DeathAdder v3 Pro for like 110 USD). My initial impression is that the mouse's coating is insanely grippy, which makes my DeathAdder v3 Pro feel so smooth, to the level that I feel almost scared holding the DA v3 Pro after using the Harpe Ace for a while. Clicks are a bit more stiff compared to the Gen 3 optical switches from Razer for sure and I need a bit of time to adjust, but indeed it's very good quality-wise, one thing I do notice is that there is a slight amount of pre-travel for M1+M2 - however it's not a big deal for me personally. The body is extremely solid, which is very impressive considering the 54g weight. With my 19x10 hand, I can aggressively claw the mouse with my fingers in the middle of the mouse click and I can click both buttons at a reasonably fast speed (slightly slower than my DeathAdder v3 Pro since it's a lighter actuation switch). I had to fully reinstall Windows to get Armoury Crate working (I was using different customized ISOs for performance anyway) - which is a bummer, and then once I got the new Windows installation done, the install speed was alright (unlike what's being shown here on the video). Nonetheless, the software side sucks indeed - which I fully agree with everybody. I do have a positive experience with G-Hub/Synapse, so Armoury Crate is a letdown for sure. Haven't tested the Aimlab integration yet (and I don't need to anyway since I use 800dpi all of the time and I don't think that those Aimlab configurations/testings are necessary) - I just configured the DPI level to 800 and 1600 and rocked on. And to you, Lemonade - great video as always!

[@UpgradeLemonade]

glad you are enjoying it :) appreciate the extra insight and sorry you had issues with it too, hopefully Asus can fix this stuff

[@phucnguyen0110]

@@UpgradeLemonade yeah it was better than what you showed in the video, which I find a bit of a relief. Nonetheless Asus need to get their work done with the software side. I don't mind reinstalling Windows anyway - since I am familiar with it and having the right USB drives too, which don't take too much time away for me.

[@Kage0No0Tenshi]

have used it for 3 weeks now and main cs2 and moved from corsair harpoon rgb wireless, I love everything about this new rog harpe ace x aimlab but its too long vs my old mice, I do claw holding and old one was heavy but perfect for claw grip. I wish they made 2 of those and one for claw grip like 0.6cm shorter its almost big as my mmo mice from corsair

[@noisenoys]

Hi Lemonade! After monthsssss how's the software now? still bad? just ordered the mouse now. thanks

[@KhalDrogo493]

If it has the same switches with the Chakram X/Spatha X, I am gonna pass. Stiffness is not ok for fps mice imho. Big ups for the review.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Not sure tbh, first Asus mouse I tested. And thank you!🤘

[@3lementa1]

If I don't install it, how I'm supposed to set up the DPI settings?

[@skychaos87]

The switches sucks, it gives me double clicking problem within 1st month of purchase. Tried to change it myself cause its ROG switch, thinking its swappable. Turns out its not, its soldered onto the PCB. Went down to the service center, they told me that they don't change the parts but replace the whole mouse. You better pray you have warranty, if not you basically have to buy a new one.

[@ApparentlyPeter]

Mouse looks cool but, it's a shame the software is that bad. My favorite part was the custom yellow xtnen, any idea if they will sell the pad in yellow and not the custom version? The Moondrop Lans arrived a few days ago and I'm relly enjoying them but, I wish the sound stage was a bit wider.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

haha glad you like the mousepad :) They will be offering some new colors of the Xten Control later this year it seems. they did a poll and a Red and Blue were most popular options. Though a green and this yellow could come as limited run options. So keep an eye out ;)

[@ApparentlyPeter]

@@UpgradeLemonade alright will wait for them to release more colors, thanks

[@spades._.]

Holy that custom xten is so nice, lucky lemonade

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Love it and thanks brotha 😊

[@Piercingthesky1]

had no issues with the software.

[@jasonpascual7508]

Just picked this up on sale from Amazon for $120 plus it had a $21 coupon that I could apply. $99 for this mouse is a great deal!

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Insane deal! Honestly enjoy it ❤️😎

[@skullscard]

Mouse is really good But Armory Crate Omg bad! Anyone know why I cant access settings while wireless ? Only with cable I can axcess settings.

[@sharkylal]

The tape actually makes the mouse 10x more responsive imo

[@severouspearous2757]

hi sorry, which arm sleeve do you always use in your videos?

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Here's a link to it. It's a no name brand from Amazon but it's nice compression style , looks good and you get 2 of them for the price amzn.to/42pKa6h

[@severouspearous2757]

@@UpgradeLemonade ty bro :)

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@severouspearous2757 appreciate you watching!

[@noisenoys]

Hi! What is the default polling rate,DPI, and lift-off distance of the mouse?

[@UpgradeLemonade]

1000hz and 1mm lod but can't remember the dpi TBH

[@noisenoys]

@@UpgradeLemonade thanks hehe! Want to know coz im ordering this mice and i read somewhere "dont install the software" 😂

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@noisenoys LOL yup avoid it. But enjoy the mouse it's great. The manual will tell you how to change dpi , polling rate, etc so it's easy to figure out

[@noisenoys]

@@UpgradeLemonade Hi Lemonade! After monthsssss how's the software now? still bad? just ordered the mouse now. thanks

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@noisenoys I sold the mouse , haven't used it in a while to be honest

[@m4gg0t18]

Does your scroll wheel move side to side? My copy does.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

naw not anymore than all my other mice, seems fine on my copy

[@enwz96]

i got hyped, then when they announce the price i was shocked. I guess aimlab logo was quite expensive.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Ya I can understand that Toony, but Asus stuff goes on sale regularly. Someone overseas got it on sale for $99 recently

[@enwz96]

@@UpgradeLemonade they hardly goes on sale here (sad). I was a very big fan of the first gladius.

[@lexavaritia7596]

I wish asus make seperate software for their mouse. You wouldnt wanna know how difficult it is to setup the same i had from my logitech mouses

[@armani970]

Have you tried the aimlab mouse pad? It is worth it?

[@UpgradeLemonade]

naw I havent and probably not. it seems fine just nothing particularly special.

[@kevinliem6284]

This mouse VS Pulsar X2 Bruce lee edition? Who do u got? Or recommended?

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Two different sizes and shapes but pulsar X2 all day for me. I use the mini for fingertip it's great. The medium is better for claw Software is very light weight too

[@EnzAlbo11]

If you see the stats on rtings ace aim lab beats even the logitech gpxs2

[@lukenycz7967]

my mouse has developed a right click ads bug with it glitchy in and out when trying to use it at times

[@UpgradeLemonade]

damn :/ is their warranty process easy?

[@lukenycz7967]

@@UpgradeLemonade haven’t tried that route yet, my old mice seem to not have issues so who knows

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@lukenycz7967 best of luck hopefully it's not a widespread issue with it. My copy has held up nice

[@lukenycz7967]

@@UpgradeLemonade I will probably go back to my trusty zowie za13

[@Wilex_bs]

What should I chose between the logitech superlight 2 the Ryzer V2 pro or this one?

[@EnzAlbo11]

This is what i was thinking too

[@itsTernal]

If weight is not a problem for you, consider Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed. You are saving some real money and you still get top sensor and amazing switches (granted, they are not 3rd gen but still...) From all of those, I own both the superlight and the asus, I would go for the Razer. They just feel better overall.

[@GanDtech]

Love this mouse except the software which I can’t even install most the time and if I do it doesn’t recognize anything lol

[@berzurg3715]

why do u have a yellow xten😤

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Good eyes 😉 was a gift

[@lunayconsuela]

I had this mouse. I configured the onboard memory to only 400 DPI and it worked fine on every computer I connected it to. However, as soon as I started up Aimlab my onboard memory got reset by Aimlab. Had to reconfigure the onboard memory each time I used Aimlab. Returned it and got a new one, same story. Support was no help as they claimed "it was physically impossible for Aimlab to change settings on the mouse", a joke since that is what this collab is actually doing. So totally unusable for me.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

appreciate the deeper insight with this comment and your previous 👍 And yes good point that I forgot to mention how it would change my mouse settings automatically with Aimlabs! thats a damn shame how poorly they executed the software experience on both programs...

[@lunayconsuela]

@@UpgradeLemonade It may well be because I don't have the Asus software installed on the PC I use Aimlab on. But glad there is finally a reviewer who dares to confirm the Armory Crate horror stories. 👍 Same with Corsair ICUE by the way, have it on an old laptop to configure my M65 Wireless. That thing adds a bunch of audio services that are a memory hog even if you don't have their headphones. A pain to uninstall completely just like Armory Crate. I hear people complain about G-Hub and Synapse but these are nothing like that Asus and Corsair software. Takes a bit to get to know how they work but I find them quite useable. And I just configure my devices onboard memory with them and turn them off. Anyway, keep up those reviews, we need objective reviewers like you! 👍

[@UpgradeLemonade]

@@lunayconsuela I didnt run into any issues with iCue on my old computer, but then again I never uninstalled it to see how that process goes haha. And yes agreed G-Hub and Synapse, and even Steel Series have been flawless for me. Cheers and thanks for the kind words as well :)

[@BLAKGRIP]

Nice Mousepad, my guy

[@UpgradeLemonade]

Haha good eye 🙂 thank you

[@otto5423]

Bought new one for 30€(like 31usd) shipped. Thanks to Asus cashback and sale. What a deal, but the damn software is pure sh*t. Nice review btw!

[@codexnecrogeddon]

That software looks downright oppressive.

[@UpgradeLemonade]

I know 😓 it's sad

[@ІлляЧерняк-ъ4я]

This mouse has a crapp scroll, after my model o w and Roccat it is like a crapp

[@IamPhishizzle2]

Harpe has it's own software with less bloatware on the Asus Product support page. Armoury crate is AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS! I love Asus products but it's a deal breaker if I ever have to install armoury crate. Fix your shit ASUS

[@XxDragonWarrior77xX]

mine started double clicking in 1 day,

[@rafaeladamovic330]

it hase 1 BIG BIG problem for me it costs 150$ i got the same mose on one website for only 35$ and ath first i thought yes it is 100% fake so i was sceptcal whit buying it but i bought it and when packet arived i culdn belive it vas actuly real

[@TheBorkka]

i hate gameing software that is just bloated and for good looks, it lags like hell and hard to navigate through. I just want something simple and fast.

[@therealslimjaymo5489]

the software is dogshit but the mouse is phenomenal. greatest purchase ever

[@ddertien]

This mouse sucks I returned it

[@amirhitman5745]

What was the problem?

[@ddertien]

@@amirhitman5745 Not worth the money it felt cheap and the shape sucks

[@amirhitman5745]

@@ddertien my hands are small, do yo recommend it?

[@ddertien]

@@amirhitman5745 I personally don't recommend it at all just get a lamzu mouse or something instead

[@BohmanderTCG]

its a good mouse just not right for you you should get an ergonomic mouse. I didnt like the deathadder v3 pro the best mouse in the market atm... cuz its weird shapedont like ergo mouse@@ddertien

[@leonidaas2000]

i have it and i love it. ive sent back my logi pro 2

[@redshiftit8303]

Asus armory crate software is straight up malware.

[@leonidaas2000]

software has been fixed yo

[@UpgradeLemonade]

actually? great to hear!