1 Billion Lions VS 1 of Every Pokemon

[@WolfeyVGC]

I'm really proud of this wideo, so I hope you like how it turned out! This is my first time doing scripted content - let me know if you like this style, it's not something I'll use as default ever but it might be good to sprinkle in content like this here and there. Edited by Uzi: twitter.com/TheUzigunner Intro by Gio: twitter.com/the_one_gio

[@WishedWash]

And we're also very proud wolfe

[@Lyrahd]

We'll always be proud of you Mr. Glicke!

[@travishoupt3127]

Gen 5 Lando-t OU

[@Dr._is_sleepy]

This is great...

[@oatmealmix]

I like the style alot, if u sprinkle this in every week I might actually be less bored lmao

[@GermanKinsmen]

Wolfey: "We're not using the Pokedex, that'd be ridiculous". Kyogre: Fucking floods the entire universe three times over with the help of fairies and monkeys.

[@SCP_Void_7274]

Seems 'bout right.

[@Kolitj]

disclaimer: Lions can swim

[@syweb2]

@@Kolitj For how long? Assuming the sudden appearance of water doesn't crush them.

[@blankblank1661]

@@Kolitj He can just summon the water above them, water off that size and height can crush cars. Also, normal floods can tear down houses.

[@brettvandermeer5297]

@@Kolitj reclaimer: not forever

[@twitchyb9950]

So basically, Kyogre floods the planet with the help of Clefairy and the lions all drown and then Smeargle and Oranguru are like “that was sick bro! Do it again!”

[@tinkerermelon6599]

Now I'm just imagining Smeargle and Oranguru like Supa Hot Fire's hype men xD

[@scootergang8326]

Uhyeah I'll fucken do it again

[@daffycuh2931]

Bruh 1k likes and 4 replies

[@glarbo3965]

Lions will form a raft

[@minezenki1436]

@@glarbo3965 and when they do the pokemon would just do it again

[@ikarainijirai]

The Pokémon can just strike the lions at night because everyone knows that the lion sleeps tonight

[@catfroth]

underrated comment

[@cynniethia]

underrated comment

[@Luingi]

Give them a 5 hour energy

[@projectgarchomp2380]

How the tables turn

[@cristianwithnoh2951]

Lmao

[@davidanderegg1232]

The poetry of Kyogre being both the optimal choice from game mechanics side and cannonically 100% capable of drowning a billion lions at once is truely beautiful.

[@josecorzo5517]

Groudon be like: Sorry bro, but my super duper sun is active and you cannot attack Wait, they didn't have items

[@BurakkuHishou]

I mean Groudon is also a doomsday scenario for them. Making the sun hot enough to evaporate the oceans has got to be terrible for anything living on land and not having shelter. Especially beings with fur coats. If the lions survived that, they'd be lethargic as heck

[@davidanderegg1232]

@@BurakkuHishou yeah hes much more debatable though. One of the best arguments for the lions is that they kill the pokemon in 5 minutes. Kyogre's water stops that in its tracks but Groudon's heat wave hasn't really shown to be that quick. Maybe lava stops them but lion bridge over it honestly isn't unrealistic unlike the ladder.

[@BurakkuHishou]

@davidanderegg1232 I mean, assuming lions are still acting as their natural selves...anything team work based or sacrificial based is unrealistic.

[@davidanderegg1232]

@@BurakkuHishou have you heard their arguments? Realisms long out the window. But them piling on lava til one gets over isn’t that unrealistic

[@shivertooth9133]

Kyogre: _uses Water Spout_ Oranguru: *"DO IT AGAIN."* Kyogre: _uses Water Spout again_ Smeargle: *"DO IT AGAIN."* Lions: _BRUH_

[@Panda10million]

Ditto and mew: *heavy breathing*

[@gacharandom6087]

@@Panda10million RIGHT! they could transform into Oraguru and Smeargle and just make Kyogre... DO IT AGAIN

[@gg_ez69lol63]

@@gacharandom6087 or they could transform into kyogre and have 3 water spouts

[@froggers8945]

@@gg_ez69lol63 but those would only be able to do one water spout, they wouldn’t copy or anything plus no stat boosts for helping hand

[@gg_ez69lol63]

@@froggers8945 transformed pokemon have 5 pp on moves lol

[@Mudkep_]

Groudon: "Did we do it?" Rayquaza: "Yes" Groudon: "What did it cost?" Rayquaza: "Your brother probably being dead due to the sheer roids every pokemon gave him"

[@lordspagetti9261]

groudon:Yay now I can make the entire earth full of land and volcanos and there wont be any water

[@lvlHive]

Groudon: "Did we do it?" Rayquaza: "Yes" Groudon: "What did it cost?" Kyogre: "What do you mean WE"

[@AlexanderRM1000]

I was about to say "every pokemon except Kyogre and the ones with Water Absorb" but then realized Wide Guard defends them all against even allied spread moves (I assume?) so they're fine.

[@trevaacin5699]

@@AlexanderRM1000 that wasn't even a concern anyways, since unlike surf, water spout doesn't hit allies

[@yummynubs3646]

@@lordspagetti9261 Rayquaza: *slaps groudon* no bad Groudon: but why not? Rayquaza: we need to keep the 7/10 meme alive

[@TomMKW]

That one Pyroar fighting on the side of the pokemon watching his entire species being obliterated into extinction be like: :')

[@sokka780]

This comment deserves more attention

[@pcu9284]

they are not even extint, they got deleted

[@roaringthunder115]

Lol

[@Alpha-sCat]

Lol

[@b-17theflyingfortress]

@@pcu9284 When extinction isn't enough to describe such sad fate.

[@Sceptiledagoat]

The lions - ok we've defeated every single pokemon except one Kingambit- and i took that personally

[@BEEEES]

Basculegion and houndstone just running around hitting everything with 50000 power last respects.

[@Kingambit7]

​@@BEEEESBasculegion can learn last respects?

[@BEEEES]

@@Kingambit7 yup, but it's an egg move so you need to put a basculegion with a mirror herb and an open move slot in a picnic with a houndstone that knows last respects for it to actually be able to use the move.

[@Kingambit7]

@@BEEEES Awesome! I've got to do that!

[@josecorzo5517]

*uses snarl*

[@nathanielandre2568]

Kyogre: " You did well to survive that attack. *What will you do about the second one?* "

[@yingames275]

2 TSUNAMI If Survived 4 TSUNAMI if still not dead somehow 8 TSUNAMI alr this is impossible if their still not dead but 16 TSUNAMI

[@Bakadono7525]

I'm pretty sure we are talking a big enough Tsuami to more than wipe out the Earth

[@zacharyjennings8218]

Lol idk if it was your intention but, I read that clear as day in Madaras voice lol

[@Xevil1]

I guess Kyogre is Madara now

[@familydepaola3457]

Didnt know the lions were onoki

[@INTERNAL_REVENUE_SERVICE]

My favorite part about this whole argument is the claim that “pokemon wouldn’t be able to work together because they need a trainer they’d just kill each other” and then turn around and insinuate that lions are smart enough to make a giant ball/ladder

[@ianalbertobarrientosfortin6713]

wait till they learn about psychic pokemon

[@RandomPerson-gf6gd]

@@ianalbertobarrientosfortin6713 Alakazam with 5,000 IQ and ability to communicate with psychically

[@boosterboo6795]

@@RandomPerson-gf6gd Mewtwo was able to control pokemon I believe.

[@RandomPerson-gf6gd]

@@boosterboo6795 yeah

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodfa7538]

fair argument, but a billion is a lot.

[@Leon-pg3qt]

As a “a billion lions is a lot of lions” supporter. I could tell as soon as he said “307 pokemon learn helping hand” that I was wrong

[@highcard6296]

I was on the side of the lions until this day, when World Champ Wolfey created a turn 1 battle plan of ultimate lion destruction

[@najee_eee]

@@highcard6296 good that you now see the light

[@Kenshin73747]

@@postboy2242 ultra necrozma : slaughter who called

[@Superbug-tf8zy]

@@highcard6296 Sadly, thats impossible, allow me to explain. You can't have 307 pokemons fight at once. Only 6.

[@lemonydime4137]

@@Superbug-tf8zy 1 billion lions wouldn't cooperate either. If anything the lions would be fighting each other for territory as well as leadership. Pokemon would barely have to get involved.

[@almightycinder]

I still like the idea of magcargo just slowly crawling towards the lions and they all burst into flames when they're like 30 feet away. Just slowly gets closer and one by one, they just explode.

[@fantasticube]

How come I imagined that too lol. Probably a bit more than 30 feet away though. I would imagine Magcargo would burn them all before it even started

[@cuanchulainn]

For once, you are not the target of the death snail

[@Luke_Sah]

I like the idea of the lions bumrushing 998 Pokemon, until finally there is a single Pidgey floating high above the field, it's wings slowly giving out. Below it, a billion lions circle one very scared Gardevoir...

[@memelescream4796]

Black hole time heehoo ​@@Luke_Sah

[@josep8437]

​@@Luke_Sah Kingambit says hi

[@banjokazooie5431]

"Let's ignore the pokedex because its literally impossible and super exaggerated" *constructs a set up that has enough power to destroy all life in the universe in 1 hit*

[@lucafornataro3752]

...3 times over

[@_Megans_]

lol

[@arandominternetuser4507]

This whole argument is literally impossible and super exaggerated.

[@TMega5612]

I mean using the games' lore Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, and Arceus can all do that independently.

[@banjokazooie5431]

@@TMega5612 True, but he said he wasnt going to use the lore to avoid a situation like this. But somehow we ended up in a situation like this anyways. Its just kind of ironic

[@skycastrum5803]

First thoughts: There are pokemon that can fly and have range. What are lions gonna do? Wolfe: Proceeds to explain how Kyogre is going to 1-shot all lions in one turn.

[@jaschabull2365]

I mean, yeah, it's a point that rayquaza could probably just camp in the sky. Well, I guess it couldn't if we're talking game mechanics, but still, it's something to consider.

[@bruv7521]

According to the Lion's appreciators, lion ladders

[@jaschabull2365]

@@bruv7521 Nah, lion ladders tend to be unstable and collapse onto hornbills. Wait, that's rhino/elephant/hippo/giraffe/antelope/anteater/ostrich/lion ladders.

[@skycastrum5803]

Lion ladders is perfect for the pokemon. Bunch as many lions as possible together, probably have a good number taken out from their own weight. Meanwhile, the flyers will use the miraculous 200IQ move of not staying in one spot. On the other hand, the lions might have Scar on their side. He could use his earth bending powers to move the ground closer to the flying pokemon.

[@jaschabull2365]

@@skycastrum5803 Since when is Scar Toph Beifong?

[@gold_phantom__5402]

Wolfey with professional editors is too powerful

[@slick_rickgaming1102]

When you give an already good Pokemon a mega form

[@WishMakers]

this was a perfect idea

[@alexemp6201]

A power that goes even further than wolfey's plot armor against cybertron

[@ronnycrawf2441]

@@slick_rickgaming1102 Salamence

[@bluesandshrew1]

@@slick_rickgaming1102 didnt work too good with garchomp but still yes in this case

[@josecorzo5517]

A billion lions: somehow survive* Groudon: it's my turn to play bro *uses earthquake

[@cooIskeleton94]

lion shelter

[@Admire-the-Sire]

Groudon: runs at the lions and rips the ground open

[@mir4geisnotafurry]

@@Admire-the-Sirelion helicopter

[@Admire-the-Sire]

@@mir4geisnotafurry Literally every legendary (besides Groudon/Kyogre): And I took that personally.

[@mir4geisnotafurry]

@@Admire-the-Sire lion masterball

[@ray_0147]

Just imagine how long it would take to wait for INTIMIDATE to take effect on each of them.

[@azurezephy5819]

not to mention that it would happen multiple times, Jesus, the lions would die of old age before the slaughter would begin

[@bubbaloobub3592]

It would literally take 30 years

[@tobymacdonald5893]

assuming the animation takes 5 seconds that would take 158 years lmao

[@Lechampion3]

Dude i think the lions and some pokemon would have intimidate

[@scrhh]

intimidation takes about 2 seconds in gen 6 and after, there are 32 pokemon that can have intimidate, provided that all pokemon in one evolution line can be included at the same time. there are 1 billion lions, so intimidate will be done 32 billion times. if every pokemon that can learn intimidate actually has intimidate, it would take 64 billion seconds / 740,740.74 days / 2,028.04 years

[@queendedede2896]

This guy just taught us how important set-up moves are

[@NinjaTyler]

Fucking right?

[@thexp905]

Well... If you've ever done any form of competitive battling, you would know that Setting up is a big importance. You have trick room setups, Mimikyu sweeps, Mould Breaker counter, you have Shuckle, Entry traps, Shadow tag, trapping moves, just to name a few.

[@gabrieljohnson1118]

Real

[@phhsdj]

Yepppp

[@zama273]

Imagine if he used primal kyogre

[@ultimateabsol1268]

“What about the lion ladder?” “If the lions were on the ladder they’d be stuck in Pokéball tier” Underrated joke lmao

[@TomAmit42]

can anyone explain that particular joke to me?

[@trunks4435]

@@TomAmit42 pokeball tier is the lowest ladder tier in competitive pokemon (the game).

[@TomAmit42]

@@trunks4435 oh so it's mostly just a word-play, yes?

[@trunks4435]

@@TomAmit42 yeah I guess you can say that

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

@@trunks4435 Oh whoops, I thought the joke was that the higher up you go on the ladder the fewer there are at maximum effectiveness.

[@christophersurles9980]

I love how orangutu and smeargle basically just said "DO IT AGAIN"

[@sleepycady]

OMG THE FUNNY MEME DO IT AGAIN

[@Moss_Dude]

Kyogre: Have you ever been hit by the end of the universe twice in a row? Lions: No Oranguru: *W* *O* *U* *L* *D* *Y* *O* *U* *L* *I* *K* *E* *T* *O* *?* Smeargle: Laughs in the background

[@randomname9291]

What can kyogre do? I’ve heard people mentioning him multiple times but I don’t understand it

[@damianwilson8974]

@@randomname9291 use water spout

[@randomname9291]

@@damianwilson8974 yeah I’m just stupid, I read the comments before watching the video

[@DaichiMatsu]

Astalos.... Love the pfp, my favorite of the four

[@jeeneeuz]

@@randomname9291 Watch pokemon generations episode 8 and you'll see that Kyogre can solo the puny lions lmao

[@thesharkcatbros5325]

That one Pokémon with storm drain: *”I’m helping”*

[@rhymeswithmoose228]

I know this is probably ironic, but just in case, other pokemon could use entrainment, nullifying bad abilities.

[@grunkleg.2934]

No Pokémon in the game can only have Storm Drain as their Ability. Even then, you could always use something like Boomburst or Eruption instead

[@laserbeacon6715]

Gastrodon cries in the corner. Can't run away from lion

[@raulnb]

Weezing: let me introduce myself

[@raulnb]

(With neutralizing gas)

[@EverestBlizzard]

"1 Billion is a lot of lions bro!" Wolfey: "Yeah, 1.96*10^64 is a lot of damage"

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

Clear

[@RandomMf_2]

True

[@Spookbrawlstars]

Yeah

[@Warden_Ingo]

Yes

[@theanti-baloon716]

bro what are lions supposo to do if LITTERLY Any flying legendary shows up or ANY GHOST TYPE becuase the lions are normal type

[@imthepigeonguy]

I love the idea of all these Pokemon getting together and scheming on how to f*ck up some lions

[@swordsmancs]

The best part is there are more than a few Pokémon fully capable of coming up with a plan like this. Like even if the actual IQ of your average Alakazam is vastly overestimated, it’d still be smart enough to figure a strategy like this out, especially if it had help from other hyper-intelligent Pokémon like Slowking or Metagross

[@rishiy6183]

​@@swordsmancsget any 2 decently strong pokemon together and make them both use spread moves. Skips the whole setup

[@pokemonfanmario7694]

Lion Tower of Babel

[@kevinfloresjaramillo7009]

Buffing the attack with a nasty plot

[@toffeentea6064]

It’s good to know that we haven’t lost the intro. If we did, he’d no longer be a real youtubist.

[@HazeEmry]

Real youtubist always has intros, every intro is a work of art

[@GLiTX2527]

YouTubist?

[@axlr8deathpls294]

@@GLiTX2527 uncultured swine (don't get offended it's a joke of wolfey intentionally having bad pronunciations of certain words, this is why he pronounces youtubers as youtubists and video as wideo also having horrendous pokemon pronunciations like arca-ni-ne unlike arca-nine)

[@June26A7]

To bad he doesn't do this anymore

[@Aidenkun64]

The real question is if 1 billion lions could even scratch a single Shedinja

[@raulthetorchic7324]

ASKING THE TRUE QUESTIONS HERE

[@GreatDG]

They definitely have crunch/bite

[@sumansaxena2277]

@@GreatDG follow me walls : *exist*

[@darkwisp7434]

@@GreatDG F

[@pikasoury]

No because scratch is a normal type move

[@STB4G]

Solgaleo: *slowly switches sides while arceus deletes the lions*

[@KitsawZwastik]

I'm sad over the fact that this comment has less than 2k likes

[@iliketosaytruecomments3326]

Noice likes

[@xarci7367]

Cement

[@AusterLiteax]

Pyroar:Oh shit

[@pidgey3734]

litleo: eh... eheh... *runs away*

[@jorgemartinezsc1956]

Kyogre: does more dmg than atoms of hydrogen in the sun. Shedinja: Pathetic.

[@iambabyyoda5522]

Wolfey: Does it cause a 75% reduction? Me: It’s 75% of the original, meaning it’s a 25% reduction.

[@ThorsShadow]

I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this comment. Same with the damage roll. The lowest possible damage roll is x0.85 or 85% or a reduction of 15%. Yet, Wolfey said it's a reduction of 85% in this video. Thank god, calculators still calculate numbers correctly regardless of human error. Still love you Wolfey, keep rocking, stay safe.

[@johanrojassoderman5590]

Yes. I tried to overlook it the first time, but he kept smacking me in the face with it. Especially the 100%-75%-75% made me shiver.

[@Wolf-mj1zh]

Ah good eye on that. That means the Lions are even more dead

[@Magis_Ghast]

It's a "right answer, wrong formula... somehow..." situation... kinda.

[@servantrider7044]

He spoke incorrectly but was doing the math correctly. Don't worry about his terminology too hard. xD

[@Patterrz]

Ok now do every Pokemon VS 1 billion Wolfey Glicks

[@thegrimminal9461]

He knows the damage calcs, Wolfe wins easy.

[@WishedWash]

Well Wolfe is the old world champ of pokemon, so they'd just bow down in cowering fear like the peasants they are

[@TheoJay615]

We only need one Wolfey. He's a pokemon master.

[@fortniteprofessional4727]

Mr. Wolfey could just get one pokeball the size of the sun and win

[@AshenDust_]

That’s 6 billion Pokémon vs one of each Pokémon, that’s pretty easy

[@tear959]

Summarizing: Kyogre floods everything 2 Pokemon incentivate two extra floods 308 Pokemon help him 3 Pokemon defend 3 Pokemon break possible defenses The others cheer from the sidelines

[@SukunaJJKaisen]

And now because of scarlet and violet the Pokémon increase my odds attack and special attack from.cheers

[@CM_M_M_YT]

i mean 307

[@zhdaiisd871]

Flood everything except teammates as water Spout doesn't hit teamates

[@alimirza4608]

But a billion lions is alot of lions

[@swasome5821]

@@SukunaJJKaisen Max special from the flatters, already.

[@CHOPPERIS_GOATED]

*the 4 billion unique spinda in my garage* :Am I a joke to you?

[@generalfrag9816]

Lol omg this is hilarious. Although he did say excluding different forms.

[@foxeler3262]

imagine just trowing all of those spindas them role play kingambit por the ability that makes u do 1.1x damage per fianted pokemon and the role play again on for example groudon

[@haribansgill3103]

another argument I just came up with as a counter to my own argument: "how could the pokemon devise such a plan without a trainer?" "mewtwo"

[@velvetbutterfly]

Alakazam is said to be smarter and that one orangutan from Alola is said to use Pokeballs and command others.

[@picklenik9658]

Or Deoxys too, heck, even Kadabra or Gardevoir and said to be smart enough to probably devise a helping hand nuclear bomb.

[@the_apotecary_from_tf2]

Or other 20061005 Pokémon smarter than a supercomputer

[@ndf0715]

@@the_apotecary_from_tf2 like metagross

[@the_apotecary_from_tf2]

Man did you readed my mind?

[@makhseed]

As a long time member of the “a billion lions is a lot of lions” Camp, I must admit this video if pretty conclusive. I think he cracked it

[@harpot678]

But he's wrong. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Water_Spout_(move) If you see the target area on the right side, you see how it doesn't affect the 3rd foe to the right, meaning that water spout's range is limited to a maximum of 3 foes.

[@joesos5773]

@@harpot678 You're right. All lions would have to be adjacent for them to all be hit, which isn't possible. In a 3D scenario, each water spout could kill up to 8 lions.

[@piemaster831]

@@joesos5773 that water spout could extinguish the sun, I don't think range is its issue

[@Sandromatic]

Yeah, it doesn't hit all targets, it hits all adjacent targets.

[@andyhawrylak9396]

Could just have Groudon use Earthquake instead. Wide Guard still prevents all of the Pokemon from being knocked out by it too.

[@lordofants7283]

this response was one of the most generous responses in the lions favor i've seen and it still ended in an overwelming victory for the pokemon, i don't see how anyone can think the lions have a chance

[@colmlooney5843]

Sorry johnny, but the reason you broke yah legs is because you couldn't clearly see how the lions would win, its quite obvious. Goddamit the first joestar to let me down...

[@Namato360]

@@colmlooney5843 How

[@hiddendraco2607]

@@colmlooney5843 how do they win? Lion stack? Lions can only hold up to 2000LB and the average lion is 400LB meaning the first Lion would be crushed and throw the stack off balance once more than 5 lions get on the stack, also how would they stack? Would the lions climb up each other? Lion shield? Them forming a massive shield would just make them a bigger target and they wouldn't increase in density, how would they survive the planet being flooded by Kyogre or being torn to shreds by a thousand earthquakes? Hell, how would they survive being just fucking deleted from existence by God?

[@Cube-xm6vt]

@@hiddendraco2607 what if the lions all use transform to turn into arceus. 1 billion arceus>one of every pokemon

[@hiddendraco2607]

@@Cube-xm6vt Lions can't use Pokemon moves of any sort, just like Pokemon can't use lion moves which take no PP and are infinitely reusable

[@txty510]

"Kingambit has gained strength from the fallen"

[@ethanwallis5678]

lmao

[@Admire-the-Sire]

Kinggambit fainted! *Houndstone used Last Respects!*

[@dansattah]

Any Pokémon that benefits from KOs would reach the level of legendaries at this point.

[@cormacmccarthy1889]

@@dansattah No, WAYYYYYYYY higher. Assuming Kingambit is the last Pokemon alive (somehow) he will be at +1,024 physical attack

[@yeon_ster]

Magearna with soul heart:

[@jvacar]

"307 Pokemon learn helping hand" is the only statement needed. It does Adventure Capitalist Money Damage.

[@thewordsmith7364]

Adventure Capitalist Money is a phrase i need to use

[@C4lmaria]

If you consider a regular pokemon needs a 75 base power to kill one single lion, since it's super effective, raising it's power to 150, that means the same regular pokemon would need 150000000000 power to kill 1 billion of them off of any spread move. To achieve that result, we would only need to gather 36/38 pokémon intelligent enough to cast helping hand on the same pokémon

[@GoldLND]

LMAO!!! I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO!!!

[@syweb2]

@@C4lmaria Assuming the damage is divided by the amount of lions, which it most likely isn't.

[@comitSMG]

That's funny because I literally just got done watching a video on that game and playing it.

[@ThatPyukumuku]

Any pokemon with Snow warning would drop the temperature of the battle field to below freezing, causing the lions to die of hypothermia A single snover could kill a billion lions

[@blizzard2508-k7n]

If the lions had the same moves as fire lion, they'd probably have sunny day.

[@astaut2659]

@@blizzard2508-k7n no they would only have normal moves, as he only took stats of pyroar, not moves

[@intoxiouss]

@@blizzard2508-k7n But even still, Kyogre could flood the entire universe 3x over, and even if the lions didn't die instantly from the water pressure that could crush an entire semi truck, and they could somehow swim, Lions like any other animal cannot swim forever and compared to the entire Universe they can swim a very very very small amount before their legs give out and they proceed to drown.

[@davidvanboven2576]

@@astaut2659 lions would have no moves cuz they aren't pokemons

[@astaut2659]

@@davidvanboven2576 they will struggle then

[@pythoniclogic7329]

Yveltal: Flaps its wings once Arceus: Is just God Kyogre: *THE F L O O D* Ghost types: Lion 63: Why did we all agree to this again?

[@Othermage]

Lion 9723: Because Wynaut.

[@iwillhelpiwilldefeatjustin4310]

Lion 1563788: you all agreed to this?

[@oberon1449]

Lion 153686425: I was abducted from my family and forced to fight for their amusement. Release me from my torment!

[@oberon1449]

Lion 666: In Doom-God we trust

[@TheBlueKio]

Lion 1: hey guys, welcome to my new youtube video, and today im going to do an epic gamer prank on these other 999,999,999 lions i abducted

[@Timme]

I think the funniest thing about this discussion is imagining what atrocities the pokemon could do to the lions if we go by lore/pokedex entries

[@Ayush-kc2vx]

Rayquzay be like guys can just get off the plant and let me mega evo and destroy this plant?

[@Ayush-kc2vx]

Meanwhile necrozoma be like:- let's cook them. Uses Z-move light that burns the sky

[@diogoalves9284]

If you go by pokedex any pokemon that is besides victini can never lose a battle, so somehow a magikarp with a victini can defeat a billion lions

[@Ayush-kc2vx]

@@diogoalves9284 even without using pokedex there is no way real life animals can stand up to Pokemons. What are you gonna do if dragon types started raining meteors? Or fire type start using eruption?

[@devindrent8505]

In certain cases they don’t even have to win the battle, some Pokemon, arguably just can’t lose. What are the lions really going to do against a metacross, the line that can fly through a moving plane without getting as much as a scratch.

[@FalseSwipeGaming]

Editing :O Sick vid!

[@Berttheturt314]

Hi

[@reid1283]

How good was 1 billion lions ACTUALLY? Edit: 4 people have made the same unoriginal joke at the same time humanity shares 3 briancells

[@Dr._is_sleepy]

How good was Wolfe Glick actually?

[@diamondstrife5449]

'How good where Lions actually?' video when?

[@_jy1754]

@@reid1283 UNFORTUNATELY

[@KoenvMeijel]

lion stans please note, this wasn't even kyogre's primal form

[@austinwilding1602]

@@grunkleg.2934 Magic Room was used in this scenario though, so Primal Kyogre does do more damage

[@goggles8691]

@@austinwilding1602 does primal kyogre activate if items don't?

[@echo-rose]

@@goggles8691 It does indeed. There are restrictions to what Magic Room is able to turn off, and among the items it cannot disable are the Primal Reversion orbs, Mega Stones, and Z Crystals.

[@austinwilding1602]

@@echo-rose Additionally, Primal Kyogre would go through its primal reversion before magic room ever went up, because it activates as kyogre hits the battlefield, so even if magic room stopped blue orb from activating, it wouldn't apply in this scenario.

[@echo-rose]

@@austinwilding1602 very true :3

[@itsdomtoo]

arceus: deletes lions dialga: goes back in time to kill baby lions wailord: *munch*

[@wholesomevibes3789]

No, Wailord fucks

[@sodaleopard]

@@lovelyluna773 tHe lIons woUld stAck!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!11!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!11!1!!1

[@sodaleopard]

@@lovelyluna773 yep, precisely why that argument makes no sense. saying that they could jump wouldn’t make sense as lions wouldn’t be able to cooperate and there’s too much weight

[@notauri1693]

@@sodaleopard yeah, not to mention that many pokemon can easily move/fly WAAAY more fast than a lion, I don't understand why people doesn't realize this thing that can easily would give the lion the L

[@Heaven0854]

@@notauri1693 even if we dont use the pokedex there are pokemon that display universal ingame feats such as dialga or palkia. theres also the fact roar of times descrption states: a roar of time that distorts time itself. POKEMON STOMP

[@Bird-up]

Alright, with all of this said and done; I really want to see an animation of all of this setup used to take down these lions. It'd be so much work, but be honest it'd be cool as hell seeing every trainer order their one pokémon and having Kyogre deliver the finishing blow

[@erikonthefloor]

Epic Battle Simulator?

[@forthememes2487]

wolfey: im going to get a noble peace prize! also wolfey: theoretically kills 1 billion lions 3 times over

[@Hamuel]

Well, Alfred Nobel invented dynamite so does it really matter?

[@hanmoamo]

This is the same of asking who would win between a city and a single nuke. Shure, the city has many people, but a nuke is till a nuke.

[@deezknuts3058]

one billion people or 1 of every nuke

[@maxdrags3115]

@@deezknuts3058 Not even close, the nuke annihilates the 1 billion people like 1000 times over.

[@dradel2050]

@@maxdrags3115 it's a trap, the nuke need at least one people to activate it. Though in one billion people there _will_ be at least one dumbass activating the nuke.

[@maxdrags3115]

@@dradel2050 Yea, probably.

[@anafu-sankanashi8933]

@@dradel2050 depends on how closely packed the people are. A single nuke can't kill 1 billion people but multiple definitely will.

[@PokemonArchives]

"Thel lions would be stuck in Pokeball tier." LMAO what an underrated line

[@DylanC333]

Thats the only line in this video i didn't get, can someone explain please?

[@shiinozaki]

@@DylanC333 He was talking about the tiering system for online battles in SwSh. There's the Unranked, Poke ball, Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and Master Ball tier.

[@DylanC333]

@@shiinozaki I assumed it was a sort of ranking system but is he just saying that stacking up the lions would barely make then any stronger or is there some other joke here?

[@shiinozaki]

@@DylanC333 Yeah, that's the joke.

[@MedicJigglypuff]

One Billion Lions: *proceed to attack.* It doesn't affect Misdreavus...

[@alexander1274]

Until they use bite

[@shellder_gaming]

@@alexander1274 yeah

[@JustRaii.]

@@alexander1274Because lions biting won’t be a dark type move, it wouldn’t even affect ghost types. Or will it *vsauce music plays* Because lions aren’t Pokemon, they won’t be normal types. That means they’re typeless. Typeless moves hit ghost types.

[@Taijirai]

​@JustRaii. I agree with you, but if it is typless damage it can't harm Shedinja, and if it is typed then it follows standard type restricitions. Either way there is a way out for one Pokemon or another

[@JustRaii.]

@@Taijirai dont worry. every mon uses helping hand on a torkoal and it’ll erupt all the lions i’m not saying i’m on the lions side, it’s just that your arguments on why the pokemon win are wrong

[@loresdallagamer]

Someone please show this to Ludwig

[@FellOff]

Ludwig: Do yOu kNoW HoW mUcH a BilLiOn iS??

[@dodgyjimbo4120]

@@FellOff arceus gpt beaten by cement he aint gonna do shit

[@sayuwuifyoudonttalktowomen4891]

@@dodgyjimbo4120 yeah so would lions

[@nuszulfikar]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpato4pnjK-mp5o

[@robertsiereveld1683]

and also Connor

[@sebasg4mer575]

For the people who think " what about water spout hitting allies since it hits everything around? " Or whatever, there is an ability that a few pokemon have that prevents damaging allies

[@dovahllin798]

Water spout only hits the opponents in front of you anyways, whoever asks that hasn’t played pokemon

[@RuffleShnorf]

Even if it did, Kyogre wouldn't hit itself

[@sebasg4mer575]

@@RuffleShnorf who said that

[@RuffleShnorf]

@@sebasg4mer575 no one, just proving your point further

[@begining9807]

and wonder gaurd

[@TheLadKC]

I like how he calculates rain dance when kyogre has drizzle

[@JointFury]

Water bubble tho

[@guywholikespvp5627]

Drizzle happens instantly entrainment with water bubble takes 1 turn

[@sayethvexus8332]

If there's one of every Pokémon on the field then that means that potentially there are other Pokémon on the field with weather altering abilities. As such, it's entirely possible for it not to be raining despite Kyogre being on the field. If nothing else, Groudon alone has Drought as its only ability, to say nothing of stuff like Hippowdon, Tyranitar and Ninetales. Though all of those are rendered moot by either giving Kyogre the Blue Orb, turning it into Primal Kyogre and activating Primordial Sea, which cannot be overridden by standard weathers - only by Primal Groudon's Desolate Land or Mega Rayquaza's Delta Stream. These too are easily sorted - we just don't give Groudon the Red Orb and don't Mega Evolve Rayquaza. Alternatively, if the Blue Orb isn't an option for whatever reason, we just have one of the other Pokémon that's not doing anything use Rain Dance after Groudon's Drought and any other weather altering abilities have come into play. Going back to Rayquaza, however, he is still technically an issue due to his Air Lock ability, but he's also easily worked around by a Pokémon with Entrainment, Gastro Acid, Simple Beam or Worry Seed. There are various other ways the actual abilities of the other Pokémon in the battle can potentially be a problem (after all, you're using one of EVERY Pokémon), but they're all also easily worked around since you have so many that are just doing nothing.

[@sketch3744]

@@sayethvexus8332 Anything with Storm drain literally fucks the entire thing :(

[@sayethvexus8332]

@@sketch3744 Storm Drain doesn't redirect spread moves.

[@pinkiepie5911]

Miraidon: … GIMMIE A SANDWICH Koraidon : bru, just GIMME A SANDWICH.

[@midnightmoonlit3741]

He forgot to mention that imposter ditto can just transform into oranguru or smeargle , adding one more instruct. Mew could also transform, but there’s a likelihood that battle already ended.

[@I_Guess_Smoky]

Man the battle had started and was already over

[@Sarah_Bragg]

Oh my, let’s go even more overkill!

[@yasd8493]

It does less damage that way, 1-2 instructs are optimal for damage

[@arisutk3666]

We can add zoroark to

[@pepperisused4776]

It's a one turn scenario, so transform isnt an option. Also, iirc impostor only transforms into opponents, aka the lions, not something like Oranguru

[@FrosteryGaming]

1 billion Lions is now such an iconic character, he even fought the sun once

[@anitaanita7854]

Yeah the ancient warrior

[@HeadCannon19]

That was actually a trillion lions, it’s a common mistake to mix up these two epic warriors, but there’s a key difference: 1 billion lions is a lot of lions but 1 trillion lions is A LOT of lions

[@anitaanita7854]

@@HeadCannon19 a billion is a lot and a trillion is a lot of lots ?

[@Tidnro]

They lost tho..

[@williamnewman8293]

@@Tidnro thats sorta just the fate of a billion and a trillion lions. they get destroyed each season to show how strong the new kid on the block is.

[@crppledizzle9374]

Kyogre with 300+ helping hands at once: A firebender can only experience this power once every one hundred years... * water spouts *

[@ThatPillow]

Ah yes, fire bending, if only there was a water version to fit more thenatically

[@Kasierofhate-ga5]

And fuck it let's tera water Kyogre

[@somerandomguywholikesULTRAKILL]

⁠@@Kasierofhate-ga5 fuck it lets primal, dynamax AND tera water kyogre

[@Kasierofhate-ga5]

@@somerandomguywholikesULTRAKILL in rain

[@mikegfff5236]

Then we give oranguru and Kroger Z bands and let the chaos unfold

[@Baconator9k]

“Lion uses bite!” “Kyogre uses *worldwide flood* ”

[@lilymuu]

This is honestly super-high-quality content. It's very well produced, but it flows so naturally. I love the way you took such a serious approach and went really in-depth to make a question that's so silly-sounding at first become genuinely enthralling. You're like the teacher everyone wishes they had in middle school: A teacher that makes class enjoyable by using fun subjects to disguise the fact that we're learning. And of course DaWoblefet is the teaching assistant who helps make it all possible. Thank you, Mr. Youtubist

[@DamnStraightGaming]

I totally agree! It's very different from the usual content, but it's incredibly well put together

[@TheUziGunner]

Thank you for the praise on it being well produced! Worked really hard in making it so 😁

[@lilymuu]

@@TheUziGunner thank you for doing it!! Your hard work definitely shows

[@mattfenner7824]

Me seeing the video title: "Oh, what a funny meme topic." Wolfe: "First, we need to establish our methodology." Me: "Oh, he's taking this seriously... This just got better."

[@Tman_Hall]

I almost choked on "if the lions were in a ladder they'd be stuck in pokeball tier"

[@pt3391]

I don't get it

[@driftwisp2797]

@@pt3391 "Ladder" is a term used for the ranked system in a lot of games. In pokemon, the ranked system is organized into tiers based on different pokeballs, with masterball being the highest and pokeball being the lowest.

[@pt3391]

@@driftwisp2797 make sense now. Thank you

[@theanti-baloon716]

bro what are lions supposo to do if LITTERLY Any flying legendary shows up or ANY GHOST TYPE becuase the lions are normal type

[@ArsMageis]

@@theanti-baloon716 I'm not sure about flying types but I have heard the argument of when the lion dies it turns into a ghost thus be able to fight ghost types

[@s.e.n3264]

This can be answered in two minutes. Lions are normal animals. So mono normal type. Basically just Pyroar without fire, and only normal moves. Bring out Marshadow and it's over. Stab fighting against normal lions, and immune to all normal moves. Marshadow can easily solo 1 billion lions.

[@soumyadityaagarwalla1517]

Marshadow does not have infinite pp, or is that move spread move ? Don't know

[@MarcoCarlini-yi4yb]

​@@soumyadityaagarwalla1517 pps is a fucking game mechanic and everyone who brings it up its a joke who cant accept lions get annhilated.

[@kingston3616]

"Or a little over a vigintillion base power, and no I didn't make this word up" Adventure Capitalist players: *We know.*

[@elfmonster1476]

May I recommend Antimatter Dimensions? In my opinion, best idle game out there. Currently has 1-2 months worth of content (and it only really gets boring at some of the endgame stretches). And if you're playing purely for the big numbers, my endgame save is at 10^287,000,000, compared to Adventure Capitalist capping at 1.8x10^308

[@kiantoohey5236]

This was my first thought when he said that lmao

[@pooperdooper3576]

The moon theme was unnecessarily good

[@maloryna]

“What about the lion ladder?” “If the lions were in the ladder, they’d be stuck in Pokeball tier” LMAOOOO I love this man

[@Hyunsuheo]

Also it could than be argued it could than be a single target decimating the lions even more

[@versal6545]

what are the lions gonna do telepathically tell the other lions and somehow talk to each other with an IQ of 20 as an animal even if they could a gust of wind would blow them away/a pidgey or a flying pokemon would just knock them over and the one at the bottom would have so much weight on top of him he'd just fall with the rest.

[@gargoylelamp39]

Didn’t get it

[@cheeze588]

Wouldn't they suffocate trying to get to the space pokemon?

[@apolloniakageaki1711]

Could someone explain what that means? xD

[@schaffs2]

Imagine all the lions watching a man strategize the best way to utterly decimate all of the lions millions of times over

[@dashieprodx]

idk man that's a lot of lions though

[@MM126.90]

sadly a million is not even close to how many times over they would be killed

[@beenieweenie1986]

Yeah but the lions can use snatch and steal all the effects he wants to use then obliterate the pokemon

[@Tt-The-Creative]

@@beenieweenie1986 does pyroar learn snatch? The lions are basically normal type pyroar.

[@creppersaurusrex2300]

@@Tt-The-Creative Just checked, they don't

[@JamesMumford-yi6dt]

Bro 1 billion lions couldn’t even do a dent in stakataka

[@onionhombre]

Game theory has never tackled the real issues like Wolfe has

[@majintv24]

Mattpat aint got shit on the world champ

[@Ryan50Ryan]

What if the lions have the power of friendship? They just had a dramatic flashback to all the good times they spent together. Literally unbeatable.

[@benjaminwahl8059]

more

[@ozzy6458]

Thats alot of friendship power

[@sevirakalau2171]

when that happens, the second water spout hits, then when they get their next boost THE NEXT instruct hits. Then when they attack they can't do anything and the pain begins again

[@Yamanj23]

The lions are from Akame ga kill so the power of friendship doesn't works.

[@Jason_Altea]

Idk man, have you SEEN Lucario's friendship powers?

[@smjaiteh]

Sinners: Allows 1 billion lions to exist. Kyogre: *Takes one of every Pokemon and floods the earth to restart.*

[@eggzed5499]

LMAO

[@thespookypissman1749]

But a billion is a lot of lions

[@Waftey]

@@thespookypissman1749 Yeah, and the Pokemon have multiple Gods on their side that could blow up Earth if they wanted to. Even 7 Billion humans that are smarter and armed with nukes can't beat Gods, how tf will 1 Billion lions who have no intelligence win if the smart ass apes called humans can't?

[@NearEDGE]

Man, that is going to be one busy Ditto

[@ducks4932]

@@Waftey it's alot of lions though

[@SubZero1w]

Kyogre: man fuck this place 🌊 🌊 🌊

[@Mswordx23]

As soon as I learned how OP spread damage is in ratio of how many targets it has: "Well, the lions are fucked."

[@ewan1118]

only 5 at a time

[@davidvanboven2576]

@@ewan1118 exactly, kyogre cant hit all 1 billion lions

[@durianodialos9387]

@@davidvanboven2576 You didn't watch the entire video, as he specifically mentions that the prompt is not all pokemon vs 1 billion lions 5 at a time, adding in new rules, etc etc. Therefore, anything you say doesn't count because you didn't actually pay attention.

[@aetimes2]

​@@ewan1118 in the game, 5 pokemon is the limit only because hordes spawn with up to 5 pokemon. since we're fighting 1 billion pokemon, it can hit all of the pokemon. we're not fighting them one/five at a time.

[@thespookypissman1749]

but a billion is a lot of lions

[@JZblue9]

this is like if kyogre used spirit bomb and all the pokemon fueled it

[@nulliversal925]

spirit bomb 3 times

[@blackattack1840]

out here causing Noah's Ark 2 on the battlefield

[@izahabrunner7753]

Wailord in the back crying

[@tashunagray7720]

@@blackattack1840 you wanna see me do it again-smeargel

[@Orio435]

but lions could stack

[@AshenDust_]

Of any of y’all are wondering about evasion boosts, Swift is a spread move that never misses

[@TornadoZX825]

Also No Guard exists

[@apileofbacon]

Yeah but what if the lions became ghost type when they died

[@HazeEmry]

@@apileofbacon scrappy

[@AshenDust_]

@@apileofbacon ghosts aren’t real in our world, so they wouldn’t. Even if they did, though, No Guard exists

[@brandonharrison60162]

@@AshenDust_ but ghosts do exist

[@evandercaldwell9993]

We need to start measuring Pokemon in Lionpower, like Cars in Horsepower!!

[@spiciestbirb]

We need a dex entry that alludes to this, example "This Pokemon has the power to take down 1 billion Pyroar".

[@pedrocto9474]

Or even better, some Elite-Four type of challenge where you fight a comically large amount of Pyroars and it ends up being easy as fuck

[@josecorzo5517]

@@pedrocto9474 earthquake and surf So easy for a swamper

[@bonkmaykr]

I feel like I just watched a dude spend 20 minutes ranting about how noah's ark happened.

[@banzaihennessey8838]

Lmao true

[@thegoodfather1177]

It did happen

[@Pam234]

@@thegoodfather1177 true

[@stupidshiba]

Yoooo!

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

The Nephilim were Holy Lions all along!

[@orangegamingsystem2682]

That one lion that was scared and used protect: Am I a joke to you. Pokemon Trainer: Do it again.

[@generalzeta7000]

The real question is "How many lions can each pokemon solo?"

[@Ice_type]

@PAPITO ryan yes lets see caterpie murder 6 lions

[@zeth1784]

@@Ice_type yea and let's see arceus erase every lion from existence.but it would be funny to see caterpie try to run away from 6 lions

[@speedyboi1471]

@@Ice_type all pokemon can learn toxic, so any pokemon should be able to at least take some lions down with them, even caterpie

[@generalzeta7000]

@Nameless *Thanos snap*

[@chiedoziemuoma6419]

@@generalzeta7000 Chronomon Then BURNS THE POKEMON ALIVE WITH HOLY FLARE AND CORONA!

[@aceofspades145]

13:53 “Of course, that is easily enough to kill the lions so many times over that it’s not even funny.” That is actually quite funny.

[@tyronecrossman5014]

121 like’s that’s as many likes as Pokémon in gen 1

[@sparklymop]

I literally said that put loud. Lol

[@THEHOOMANISDED]

yeah

[@Idkbro300]

@@tyronecrossman5014 wut

[@Klonion.CoCreator2]

It's even more funny because ditto can transform into oranguru who uses instruct and ditto can use it too

[@jeremysaklad6703]

13:52 I disagree: the amount of times over you could KO these lions is *very* funny.

[@alexbaribeault]

Said the same thing

[@elwe281]

it will only get tiresome in the 19234488484829 time they kill the lions

[@galobaiano1739]

Kyogre creates a tsunami* Lions:🫡

[@maxtonlevine7111]

Lions: p-please, no! Kyogre: What's the matter? Afraid to get wet?

[@emmalion1976]

to make this fair let's make the lion's don't need to sleep and pokemon that are lion join the lion side like solgaleo and then not include mega evo,legendaries, dynamax, z moves, flying pokemon, pokedex entries, surf earthquake magnitude and more not allowed. And then make it 10 billion lions.

[@smartart6841]

@@emmalion1976 and thats what you call fair?negating all the most powerful featufes,a large portion of pokemon(flying pokemon) and legendaries and a move just because it can beat you so you make up the rule that it cant be used?

[@cloudy6256]

@@emmalion1976 then it’s not the same debate

[@cloudy6256]

@@emmalion1976 also even then they would still die to T H E F L O O D

[@cloudy6256]

@@emmalion1976 also ditto can turn into the strongest Pokémon on the battlefield so...

[@MissTwistedRose]

*all the lions are KOed* *Kyogre sinks the Planet* 🐳 Team Aqua: Finally.

[@pledgenexus]

Lmfaooo! Best Comment Ever xD

[@Estra_Estra]

all it took was LIONS

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Correction: destroys the Galaxy x3 and creates a new universe (I can provide the math if you want) Cyrus: I didn’t need Palkia and Dialga after all?

[@spiciestbirb]

'1 billion lions is a lot of lions' The thing is, 6.88x10^64 damage is a lot of damage.

[@waitingfortheequinnox]

True. A billion only equates to 10^9; the lions were damned from the start

[@fizor1855]

dont be shy, just say 68800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 damage

[@TheUnderwearSauce]

But Pokemon is turn based

[@fizor1855]

@@TheUnderwearSauce if you watched the video they can kill all the lions in 1 turn, and if the lions move first than presumably they also only get 1 move

[@mrdanthepan828]

​​@@TheUnderwearSauceThe lions don't have priority. Meaning the pokemon go first.

[@glitterishhh]

>"make sure it's raining" >forgets kyogre invented drizzle

[@ajduong]

Poachers: you ever wonder if maybe we're going too far with these lions? 1 of each Pokemon: well...

[@grain_o_salt]

gold

[@Ayush_Kumar22]

@@grain_o_salt agreed

[@idkidc7513]

Logic of Lion appreciators: That's a lot of lions Logic of Pokemon fans:

[@URBOIPHONE]

Yes

[@orangeman3505]

Magcargo Just Marcargo

[@Deadass271]

@@orangeman3505 magcarago?

[@akielsteewart8577]

@@Deadass271 macgarago

[@toastour]

@@orangeman3505 also camerupt being 10000°C and everyone is ignoring him :(

[@DrVella]

a few hundred lions: live from friendship Oranguru & Smeargal: Do it again

[@catherineling5437]

Lives from protect

[@thegunfireguy7447]

@@catherineling5437 kyogre ready to do it again for turn 2 :

[@2EntireLegs]

@@catherineling5437 feint lifted protect already

[@zohaibhossain821]

@@thegunfireguy7447 wait i remember you from pokemon showdown lobby chat

[@SeeMyEvil]

i can see it evil face injoying it.

[@Full_time_issue]

With the power of rocks a car battery and a large monke we have a large whale that shatters earth

[@greetings1823]

Wolfey's description of why he is the best is that he is literally built different.

[@greg5805]

anime- lions are dead pokedex lore- lions are dead gameplay- lions are dead im starting to notice a pattern

[@wadespencer3623]

By the Pokedex, the lions never existed at all cause Jirachi wishes them out of existence. The Pokedex is fucking busted

[@josecorzo5517]

Like, yeah Peepee exist also for the lions

[@fluidsxul]

Notably, someone has proven that to allow for the lions to have pretty much 100% chance of victory (unless Tropius proves to be a real issue) is: - Game Rules - 1000+ battles of each pokemon going against some large amount of lions (~ nL/nP per line) - Powerpoints are on - Pokemon are given average moveset (even with the most optimal it wouldn't change it there) - Pokemon battle RNG was applied.

[@tristanross7673]

"That literally wouldn't do anything to help, because a billion is only 10^12" best line in the video.

[@neBen_]

ONLY 10^12 LMAO

[@nutsuloid1887]

hang on a moment

[@garethbaus5471]

Many pokemon are basically invulnerable from a lions perspective, so it would basically be an extremely slow massacre where like a dozen pokemon kill everything else even if spread moves don't scale beyond 5 targets.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Or an instant one in the case of Kyogre committing triple water hypernova.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Or a really fast one in the case of Kyogre committing triple Water Hypernova

[@galaxypedestalfan]

I was going to say that this couldn’t be possible because there would be no trainer, but then I remembered that Alakazam is smart.

[@The_Mister_E]

And that the previously mentioned Oranguru has been seen participating in battles as the part of a trainer, sending out Pokémon and giving out move commands.

[@mightguy3578]

And oranguru can give commands to Pokémon and is smart

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@mightguy3578 so now they're OP, thay have 2 trainers.

[@High2Lows]

also metagross and mewtwo. pokemon in general are also pretty smart.

[@PrismaAce]

@@marcazm1349 i agree, look at chess for an example, computers are better than people at chess. pokemon and chess are so similar

[@godhand416]

Every time someone says "a billion lions is a lot of lions" I say " yeah that's a lot of fucking dead lions "

[@miserable_weeb9219]

Lol

[@DJG44]

Im gonna start using this

[@robertlupa8273]

@@DJG44 Same.

[@beanman9294]

but why do the pokemon moves get to work? why cant we assume the pokemon get put in real life instead of the lions just being other pokemon? its a dumb debate anyways.

[@godhand416]

@@beanman9294 because then it wouldn't be lions vs pokemon, it would be lion vs other animals and we already have that lmao

[@willow7466]

Pyroar: "Why did you make me do this! Your fighting, so you can watch everyone around you die! Think Lion!" Lion:

[@OriOriOhG]

WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 999 MILLION DEAD LIONS? Lion: Y-you Pyroar. I'd still have you."

[@astolfofansunny4047]

@@OriOriOhG Pyroar then leaves the planet as the world was flooded 3 times over leaving the last lion for dead.

[@guts60]

I always found this debate dumb, until it became a joke. Then I loved it. Because there are a few people who take this seriously and believe that the lions can win, let alone live. There is a magma snail hotter than the sun; literal gods of time, space, dimension, and also _the_ God; a waifumon that can summon black holes at will; and an undead bug that the lions wouldn’t even be able to damage

[@sinteleon]

not really true on the last part, struggle would still hit through wonder guard.

[@guts60]

@@sinteleon I am assuming that lions do not have magical powers, thus anything they do is considered “normal”. Even an action like biting, which is a dark type move that would work against Shedinja, is “normal” because there is no magic behind it. And “normal”, be it the type or just existing as a regular state, cannot damage Shedinja. It is both the action and the fact that Pokémon are magical creatures that give moves their types. For example, what makes bite different from bug bite, thus permitting different typings? It’s used by a bug type Pokémon, of course! So then why doesn’t “bite” become bug bite when used by a bug type Pokémon? Because although some qualifications were fulfilled, you still need the magic aspect. A regular lion, backed into a corner, desperately struggling does not mean he is suddenly using a bug type move. He is a lion, lacking entirely in magic. There his struggling is a regular state of struggling, “normal”, and not the magic “normal” energy nor the magic “bug” energy. I probably could have said this in a way simpler way, but basically the TL;DR is that regular Earth lions from our universe possess zero magical abilities and thus cannot apply Pokémon types to their actions such as “biting” or “struggling”

[@sinteleon]

@@guts60 struggle isn't bug type, it's typeless, and bypasses most typing checks, including wonder guard. It's literally used when there is no other moves available to be used (aka no more of this magic thing you count as moves), which in this case, counts. If anything, if we go by your logic, regular normal type moves are still magic, and anything the lion does would fall into the same category as struggle, because it by definition is used when there is no more magic left. (and yes, normal type moves should be considered magic, like hyper beam and leer whatnot)

[@guts60]

@@sinteleon YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Oh my god, I was thinking of “struggle bug”. All these years of pokemon, I feel like a moron. I am sorry

[@retinazer7652]

lions would win because… a billion lions is a lotta lions

[@guzvar]

"Yveltal absorbs all life when it dies" *kalm* "Magikarp is a fish" *panik*

[@axlr8deathpls294]

You spelled phish wrong

[@BeeMusic2024]

Don't talk about Kaido that way

[@risse8873]

In magikarps pokedex entry it says it can jump over mountains I think the stupid fish wins if we use pokedex

[@doggamer3649]

@@risse8873 the speed at which it would be going would easily be enough to kill a lion

[@aetimes2]

@@risse8873 how big are the mountains?

[@FlamingZelda3]

The argument literally stops at "Pokemon get helping hand and surf"

[@colmlooney5843]

No, because again... that's *alot* of lions

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

@@colmlooney5843 The counter-argument to "that's a lotta lions" is the Phil Swift classic: *THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE*

[@colmlooney5843]

@@Nat_the_Chicken The counter-argument to "that's a lotta damage" is the average lion enjoyer classic: *THAT'S A LOTTA LIONS*

[@hiddendraco2607]

@@colmlooney5843 Arceus is literally shown to be god in the anime games and Pokedex and has infinite power, Arceus can literally just delete the lions from existence

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

@@hiddendraco2607 This was the one reply thread where we weren't madly throwing cobbled-together bits of logic at each other and I found it quite refreshing, so please don't take it seriously, thank you

[@yoaiou]

You just made the pokedex entries look a lot less exaggerated next to the actual game mechanics

[@karajohn5504]

legendary pokemon are only this powerful because the people praying to them are using helping hand

[@EnriqueLaberintico]

@@karajohn5504 well, now we now another move that Human's moveset has.

[@FlyleafOwO]

the pokedex seems more like a collection of pokemon myths, legends, and superstitions tbh

[@Willdroyd]

@@karajohn5504 Laughs in Wailord

[@official4theDrawer]

nah cuz bro had to massively nerf Pokemons and massively buff Lions for them to still lose horribly, and some ppl try to get 1B lions against pokedex