1 Corinthians

[@amnik3424]

I was talking to my husband about this and was saying that it doesn’t fit with the context, how could it be that women cannot speak at all in any way? When gifts are given to all how the Holy Spirit wants.

[@roblane5699]

@@amnik3424 so are you saying that GOD contradicts Himself??

[@Norrin777Radd]

@@roblane5699 No, she's saying what Andrew says in the video and NT scholars like Phil Payne and the late Gordon Fee have said: Those verses are most likely early scribal margin glosses that were erroneously interpolated into the text.

[@roblane5699]

@@Norrin777Radd If that’s the case, how could anyone ever trust that GOD’s Word is inerrant?? The problem is that people lack spiritual understanding. Yet they go about trying to understand the spiritual from an academic perspective. 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJVS [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

[@Norrin777Radd]

@@roblane5699 Payne firmly endorses inerrancy, and Fee did likewise while alive. But they recognize(d) that "inerrancy" applies only to the original mss., not to translation or transmission (copies, quotations, etc.), and that the originals have not existed for many centuries. In their view, textual evidence supports the position that the original, inerrant mss. did not include the disputed verses.

[@roblane5699]

@@Norrin777Radd With spiritual discernment the translations harmonize. It’s only when the texts are in the hands of those who approach scripture with man’s wisdom, that we get these “errors”. You have fallen for one of satan’s many deceptions.

[@roblane5699]

Here’s where GOD has given women place to exercise any teaching gift they may have. Titus 2:3-5 KJVS [3] The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; [4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, [5] To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. Things did not end well for Ahab. Sir, please repent before it’s too late for you.

[@Bible33AD]

Yeah. God who is spirit would deny that component of God's self that is the creation called woman who is an image bearer of God, just like man. And God would then discriminate and role restrict half His children, and church. Only a plain proof-reading of an English translation is the correct approach. Yes!

[@Bible33AD]

Who's the boss part 1 Why context matters KZbin the above for a multipart diligent study from the word of God.

[@Norrin777Radd]

Surely Prisca, who instructed Apollos in her house-church, and Phoebe, who read and explained the letter she delivered to the church at Rome, now burn in hell for their transgressions.

[@roblane5699]

@@Norrin777Radd No, they should be fine, seeing that Paul, in 1Tim 2 was writing to Timothy who had become the pastor of the church in Ephesus, to correct the practice that was started by Priscilla at Ephesus in Acts 18. As far as Phebe is concerned, reading a letter written by Paul doesn’t equate to teaching. It’s no more than relaying a message. Always remember that GOD’s Word never contradicts itself. Wherever there may appear to be a contradiction is a place where understanding is needed.

[@Norrin777Radd]

@@roblane5699 That's a rather novel approach to 1 Tim. 2. A bit curious that there is nowhere any explicit evidence that Prisca had created a problem, nor that she was ever required to step down from hosting and overseeing house-churches. As for Phoebe, in that culture delivering a letter was not a trivial matter. Burge and Green, "The New Testament in Antiquity," 2nd. Ed., p. 426 notes that couriers were expected to provide commentary and explanation of letters. Wright and Bird, "The New Testament in its World," p. 526, citing A.Katherine Grieb, note "Phoebe probably carried the letter to Rome and expounded its theology on behalf of Paul, then provided oversight in the preparation of the community for the next phase of Paul's missionary program." Bartlett (speaker in this video), in "Man and Woman in Christ," p. 298, citing 2011 essay by Witherington, gives a good detailed explanation as to why the courier would be expected to read the letter aloud, provide commentary and explanation and answer questions. IOW, Phoebe would almost certainly have been expected to "preach and teach" the epistle to the Romans.