1 Dark Truths About Why Good People Suffer More

[@CatherineBirch-m5r]

When I was growing up, I was called selfish if I didn't help others, but all I got from people was abuse and bullying. When I was 18 I woke up to reality and became a misanthrope. I looked after number one because I realised that no one cared about me unless they wanted something from me. I didn't become evil, just indifferent .

[@downtostandup]

The bad people want "good" people because they are their servants and stepping stones to rise to the top. Dog eat dog world has never changed and never will. Those who don't care about hurting others will always rise to the top

[@richardscathouse]

I chose the path of Stoicism 😊

[@domini1331]

All creatures are expected to exploit others for survival. One has to love itself first and then love others as much as it loves itself, but not more. That is the rule of Nature. Do things that make one happy. If helping others makes one happy, do it, not otherwise.

[@NexusInsight-13]

Thanks for sharing your perspective! Nietzsche did stress self-empowerment and the importance of valuing oneself before helping others. It’s fascinating how you connect that to a natural principle-finding genuine happiness in our actions rather than forcing ourselves to do good.

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

‘There is in this world a secret law - if it were not so, the world would have been lost millennia ago - a law hard and inviolable: evil always triumphs at first, and is always in the end defeated.” - Nikos Kazantzakis

[@havingagr8time]

Good video that made me think about myself and how I'm behaving in the world. I realize I've been on a journey from good and frustrated by the world around me to good and not letting it get to me.

[@richardscathouse]

Only you can decide how you react 😂😢

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

4:40 - Stupid people “EXPECT the world to reflect their values, fairness, kindness, and reciprocity”. Good people expect nothing of the sort: they know that the world is likely to repay evil for good, yet they choose goodness nonetheless.

[@richardscathouse]

I have always considered intelligence a curse. 😢

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

Evil is a luxury. Goodness is a necessity. - Aristotle (my Uncle who runs the souvlaki joint a couple of blocks down from my place).

[@patsingleton2093]

"Good and evil are two sides of the same coin. There's actually a word for it.... Human.

[@jtstar10]

Evil always triumphs over good. Just look around honestly and objectively!

[@zshah3107]

Shameful!

[@patriciahayes2664]

@zshah3107 But unfortunately true.

[@merxj]

Think about it this way, the fact you notice more evil than goodness is because the baseline is good. For a good deed to be noticed, it has to be exceptional. Evil deeds are noticed even when minor. Noticing blue dots on a blue wall is hard so it might seem red dots are prevalent.

[@richardscathouse]

Because good is stupid! #SpaceBalls the movie, 😂

[@merxj]

It's easier to notice when good people are sad and evil people are satisfied because those cases contradict our (unfounded) expectation of karmic justice. The reality is that there's a lot of good people satisfied with life and many times, evil acts are rooted on deep emotional wounds. I think satisfaction and sadness have nothing to do with being good or evil. Having a purpose, belief system, or a firm moral code and acting in accordance to it is what's actually important. Good people that suffer are generally those who would like (or would've liked) to be a bit more selfish but can't, because of complacency, lack of assertiveness, etc. Same with evil people. As the most prominent example, Mother Theresa might have suffered a lot, but I wouldn't say she was sad. She had her beliefs and acted according to them.

[@richardscathouse]

Mother Theresa also gave much pain. Especially to children, pay attention to facts, not propaganda 😢

[@merxj]

@@richardscathouse Maybe, but that wasn't the focus of my comment. Replace her with your favorite good person with a purpose or strong beleif.

[@SusannaSaunders]

Nardole : Only in darkness are we revealed. Goodness is not goodness that seeks advantage. Good is good in the final hour, in the deepest pit, without hope, without witness, without reward. Virtue is only virtue in extremis.

[@stevespeyrer1804]

The Good Suffer and The Wicked Prosper.

[@richardscathouse]

Way of the world. IME the 🇺🇸 way

[@richardscathouse]

All hail the Felon-n-Chief 😢

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

“I FEAR NOTHING. I HOPE FOR NOTHING. I AM FREE.” - Tomb Inscription, Herakleion Crete, NIKOS KAZANTZAKIS (1883-1957).

[@richardscathouse]

I guess if he could afford a fancy tomb, he was probably well insulated from much of life's horrors 😂

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

@@richardscathouse - Not true. The tomb was provided for him.

[@richardscathouse]

There's no mystery; the world is evil and selfish. Despising anything good. 😢

[@tancreddehauteville764]

There is a difference between being a good person and being a 'do gooder'. The latter strive to take every opportunity to help others, even those who clearly deserve no help. The former has a stricter sense of right and wrong and will not harm his interests simply to be kind to others, especially those who do not merit such kindness. He will discriminate, but when he gives of himself it is total and absolute. The 'do gooder', on the other hand, will willingly harm himself to simply give to others, unconditionally and without discrimination. Therefore, one is intelligent in his approach, and the other one simply lives his life to be a martyr. Extreme altruism is encouraged by certain religions and also some political ideologies, but it is socially very harmful - it can lead to criminals being rewarded and incompetents being promoted at the expense of capable people. Humans are designed to promote themselves and their own needs before those of others, this is how we are and how we have ensured our survival for thousands of years. Trying to impose an altruistic ideology on people is unnatural and senseless. There is no contradiction between leading a moderately selfish life and also exercising selective altruism to those who you care about - this is natural and normal human behaviour. However, moving to extremes of selfishness and/or altruism leads to anti-social behaviour and is in many cases a sign of a psychopathic personality.

[@NexusInsight-13]

Thanks for sharing this nuanced perspective! You’ve highlighted an interesting distinction between ‘do-gooder’ altruism and a balanced, self-respecting kindness. Nietzsche would probably agree that going to extremes-total self-sacrifice or total selfishness-can be destructive. It’s the tension between valuing yourself and helping others that keeps us grounded and fosters healthy social behavior

[@tancreddehauteville764]

@@NexusInsight-13 True, and I've known people with self-esteem issues who saw altruism as an escape valve from their misery, but it didn't work. Being a 'nice' person makes you feel good for a while, but then the misery comes back again.

[@richardscathouse]

In my experience, it costs nothing to be kind. 😊

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

*Time is the only resource.* Take action to achieve your own goals or others will stomp all over you with the recognition that no consequences will befall them... and they'd be correct. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@johnmarkey4862]

Very wise

[@christopherscotellaro]

All men end up in a lowly room dying in regret n guilt as the ceiling bleeds razor blades. A good or bad life, all men lay prone humbled by their own death existence. Its the ‘life is a zero sum game.’ Peace to hominids on this sacred mother earth. A’ho. S.w. Laro

[@Johnconno]

Because we give a shit until we can't?

[@SusannaSaunders]

There is no such thing as justice. We are all just animals who die. There is no afterlife or soul or any such shit. So those who do evil fear no retribution, no cost for their evil.

[@richardscathouse]

I hope you are right; I'm currently studying the Book of the Dead. I'm praying not to make the same mistakes that dumped my back in this wretched existence. @61

[@SusannaSaunders]

@@richardscathouse Errr... That pre-supposes a bunch of things (all of which don't exist). There is no 2nd go around, no 'soul' for a second go around, no God to oversee said go-around and no medium that said 'soul' would exist in... I think you can fairly confidently know that once you are dead that you will permanently stay that way (regardless of what you did or didn't do here)! If you want to be nice, just be nice because it's a nice thing to do. There is no reward for doing so... Nardole : Only in darkness are we revealed. Goodness is not goodness that seeks advantage. Good is good in the final hour, in the deepest pit, without hope, without witness, without reward. Virtue is only virtue in extremis. Dr Who actually made an episode or two around this: "Extremis". Something they got right! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHuti3d7gZp6iJosi=X3AhJaZCkL94ANZz

[@zshah3107]

Oh My Lord!

[@JeromeUllman]

The overman is a buddhist thinker.

[@mat7083]

The overman doesn’t seek nirvana beyond Samsara. He affirms and loves only this life.

[@NexusInsight-13]

"Interesting perspective! The Overman’s self-overcoming and Buddhism’s aim to transcend suffering share parallels, even if their approaches differ.

[@DinamoDeet101]

Sad fact is Evil people are more happy.

[@mat7083]

Good people harness the capacity to be evil.

[@mat7083]

You’re probably thinking, “It’s okay. The good people go to and enjoy heaven while the evil suffer in hell.” If so, get that off your mind right now! It’s a sign of gross weakness and powerlessness. I talked to people who openly confessed to these fantasies. They are the most life denying and vengeful of all. Don’t cheat the life you have now for the life you may never get hereafter.

[@NexusInsight-13]

Thanks for sharing that perspective! It’s a standard view that people who do wrong might seem happier because they ignore moral constraints. However, Nietzsche would likely question whether that happiness is genuine or a shallow escape from more profound self-examination.

[@zshah3107]

Shame!