1 ENGINEER vs NORMAL MODE!! (can it win?) | Tower Defense Simulator

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[@SauliusB]

All this time I taught that normal mode is the easiest one so I was confused why when I solo molten mode I almost beat molten boss but when in normal mode I like get to wave 15

[@kawahenry8716]

Less income but same enemies off molten, thats why

[@catflsh21]

Normal mode sends stronger enemies early

[@Crabz49]

@BeansAreGood lol

[@brianwilliams3169]

@@catflsh21 because it’s shorter than other modes

[@jws300]

@@brianwilliams3169 Yes, but it is meant to be the easier one, but it just.. isn't.

[@peppathechad3791]

Imagine being one of the smartest people in existance your able to create sentries that need 3 seconeds of deploy time and die to a fucking hidden boss

[@dronereviewsandgaming8490]

Lol

[@okgoose3305]

it makes sense tho my guy

[@arcticflames6932]

Well ngl thats why normal mode is call the hardest mode

[@Risk_223]

Too bad they didn't have red wristbands

[@peppathechad3791]

@@Risk_223 🐒>👨‍🏭

[@Xavierr.]

The reason why normal mode is 'harder' is because it's meant for beginners. No beginner will have farm or any strong towers. They arent supposed to win, besides they can get carried by better players on harder difficulties so they can get better faster and begin to play on their own and advance from there.

[@karelsimek5871]

No, its about the less amount of waves, therefore less cash

[@josardoleon6894]

Normal mode is the hardest mode, you cant compare a wave 30 speedy boss or a tank, with a 40k hp boss that spawns on wave 30 normal, the only reason fallen is harder is because of last 3 waves requiring high tier towers, but if you have them, by that time you have more than enough money to beat anything

[@crimsonify4418]

Fallen wave 30, a 6k hp boss spawns Normal mode wave 30, a 40k hp boss spawns

[@StarWithAPencil]

@@karelsimek5871 and therefore less time to prepare

[@karelsimek5871]

@@StarWithAPencil yeah but more importantly less money

[@liamcherry3618]

The true reason (without me complaining) that normal is "harder" then molten is that it has less special Troops like fallens and moltens, so instead of nothing they send harder zombies earlier. And the normal boss is easier then molten boss. There you go

[@rayankhan4327]

Also, normal has less waves, so you have less time to prepare.

[@copkillcop12]

Honestly they should move normal mode to where moten is or fallen because it's just not fair for newer players to pick that and think it's the easiest

[@yogitrapagainstthelgbt5391]

in that case they need to redesign the grave digger it looks weaker than molten boss so they should do that and make it look dangerous

[@yogitrapagainstthelgbt5391]

and besides new players can do well more than pro players on normal mode here what i mean pro players see that normal is hard because they dont have time to grind or to put strong towers because all the good towers they have are expensive but new players all they have is cheap priced troops so its easier to spam them or upgrade them to max

[@Yosuke.e]

@@yogitrapagainstthelgbt5391 less waves, starter towers aren't a match for the slow boss, speedy boss, hidden boss.

[@silentpulse3536]

I just discovered that 0.5% of players have beaten normal mode and 0.8% of players have beaten fallen mode. So this means easy mode is the hardest mode, harder than fallen

[@ilcolione8607]

Nah it just means there are more players that try to win in fallen instead of normal mode

[@RayHope_D]

its because fallen is more fun and common and more worht it

[@ilcolione8607]

@@RayHope_D ye agree im lv 250+ and j only play fallen mode

[@RayHope_D]

@@ilcolione8607 normal is just not worth it

[@memehivefive9852]

That's probably because... who the hell would bother with Normal? It is only 10 waves less than molten, but it gives 200 coins. It's useless.

[@Vuxzkra_12]

That’s insane good job trying and seeing if you could win. I’m also a big fan love you have a good day💜

[@d8wn_323]

i like these types of videos. like doing a test without doing a test of a tower

[@M1stic_Stand]

When you are doing the outro your loadout changes from engineer to accel

[@Survwithagun]

well shotgunner can do fallen but you need like 10 and some minis sometimes

[@Spaaagg]

nice video keep on the good work

[@zambie1797]

Epicness

[@normal4713]

zambie

[@ceciliaatengco4391]

Yez

[@kaheilui9785]

Hi zambie

[@fallenking_animations]

ENGI is better for modes with less stunts(that can kill sentries) even with the sheild buff but accel is ok with a lot of stun modes and just is RAW DPS

[@catGAMERYT94]

Def accel better on many situations

[@josardoleon6894]

Its the complete opposite, sentry shield make sentries almost invulnerable to everything on normal, molten and fallen mode, on hardcore she just need a medic to keep the shield up, while every stun stops accel from attacking during a whole 4 seconds even if you use medic, during that time every engi can get 2k dmg. So, engi is better for solo play since you dont have that many slots to bring medic, dj and commander, while accel is better with more people that bring support with them

[@hollowgatos9447]

@@josardoleon6894 FINALLY, engineer isn't better than accel, but accel isn't better than engineer. Engineer is great for early - mid game, solo molten speedruning, 450 dps, can se every type of enemy and resist stuns better, but it cant be buffed and don't do well against hiddens. While accel do pretty well for bosses with support, can see hiddens from level 1 and its great for late game, but it's pretty weak for fast enemies, locks on some bosses and the stun hits really hard.

[@OntrixGR]

@@hollowgatos9447 Plus his charge up is like 3 billion years

[@Saul_enjoyer]

engi is litteraly better than accel for stuns tho cuz I fit gets stunned the sentries keep going and also engi in total has a higher dose then accel

[@Angelina-San]

New players : Normal mode is easy Veterans :

[@diztress]

@jeb No, veterans play since the start or 1-2 years after game release.

[@uae2992]

@@diztress Tds was released in 2019??

[@hearts4st3fx]

@@diztress but you saif 2 years and he joined on 2020 then he has played 1- 2 years

[@SomeTerrariaEnjoyer]

@@uae2992 yeah what about it

[@noobythenoob658]

Played almost 4 years, I'm a mega veteran then

[@randomfunnyguy7538]

Nice, this is the content i signed up for.

[@DS.DxrkYT]

You for sure deserve a sub

[@itram20]

Someone noticed that the time counter on 5:40 went 1 MINUTE UP?!

[@ashadow5927]

I always thought normal was the easiest mode... then I opened my eyes

[@formaggino2082]

And saw the endless world

[@alexkhestoo9815]

@@formaggino2082 not the endless world cuz normal mode has 30 waves normally boss would have 40 waves

[@wexiva2416]

I love your content elite can you make a easy strat to beat fallen without golden mini

[@TNAG45]

the early waves of normal mode give me the similar difficulty of the tower battles early game

[@agustus9464]

Good thing Elite was upgraded to level 2, he has hidden detection now

[@chickyadventuresplayz3954]

...wat-

[@franzluisjavier2301]

I think engineer need an buff so that the sentry can detect hidden/shadows/boss since it 4,500k gems so yeah

[@smilk69420]

Sentry would be too op but it cost 4,500 gems, i think they should nerf the price too like 3000 or 3500

[@chunheitang7239]

@@smilk69420 I dont think they will nerf the price since some of the players bought the sentries with robux lol. The only way is to buff engineer, like the guy said, make the sentries detect hidden, will be a good buff, not exactly OP tho

[@smilk69420]

@@chunheitang7239 yes it is, it has more dps than engineer even tho it can die it can respawn quickly

[@justinray5524]

@@smilk69420 I dont agree with that, it would be so unfair for players who bought it with 4500 gems just to have the price decreased a week later

[@twilightwillbite-darkgray2391]

They can no longer change the price. Doing so would be extremely unfair to the people who already got it. Rebalancing is definitely something they can do to fix the current issues with Engineer.

[@jurrasictoast6655]

2nd day of wacthing you great content man

[@airodox6593]

Try out elf camp, I know that 2 can carry until final wave in normal and molten (and pretty far in fallen) I’m sure just one elf camp would do better than mil base.

[@arcticflames6932]

They should give sentrys hd and fd(flying dection) since the sentry look so high tech and it cost do much so it makes sense

[@playerplayz1118]

Shadow boos: i am a fast hidden boos that can go through one 50 dollar tower

[@okok-oe5sr]

shadow boos

[@meatbaIls]

Ey boos

[@Mimikyu._.672]

Ah yes a new meme shadow boos

[@playerplayz1118]

No its hidden bos

[@razahijazi]

ugh I hate the engineer when the shadow boos comes

[@AewsgusibaluE]

Elite the new Dr. Suess LOL

[@canalfamiliar302]

This is why I don’t play normal mode, like for real. I played it three times and I was like “WHY IS THE SPEEDY BOSS COMING OUT SO EARLY”

[@envixous_402]

I think we can get the dub on engi with support, and when I say support, I mean commander, dj, farm, and ace pilot (hidden detection e)

[@mmk1605]

Commander and DJ don’t buff the sentries I think

[@eduaron4413]

@@mmk1605 they don't

[@icooldiamond]

Units cant get the ace pilot hidden buff

[@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137]

@@mmk1605 but it kinda does cuz if engineer shoots faster the sentries come faster since they come from engineer’s dmg and dj booth gets engineers upgrades faster

[@muhammedomesh1764]

@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 sentry still struggles with hd boss

[@litbeyond]

In my opinion, Normal Mode is a bit easier than Fallen Mode

[@DemolitionIdiot]

hax

[@baddrifter1305]

fact

[@iamyourmaster2565]

Hax fax

[@toasttea3200]

fax hax

[@BobJnekins]

Disagreed, Tank will “sutn” you before you can kill it

[@MikeGaming-ly4nk]

Idk why i watch already when u post like 16s ago

[@ItzLuzTheUltima]

Fun fact: i used my backup account on roblox where i was a noob, and then i spammed scout and sniper. They got me to wave 22 or 23 on normal mode.

[@EncarncionGO]

The true power of engineer

[@icanonlyhave50charactersin30]

Why are you saying this? It died on wave 21.

[@epicgamercalix6263]

I'm noticing that after elite loses engineer turns into accel

[@TheBlackMan3000]

Lol

[@questionmark6020]

i mean since accel also made it to way 21 but still is better

[@muhammedomesh1764]

@@questionmark6020 engineer and accel are better in there own ways btw engineer isnt suppose to be a full attack tower more of a support and attack

[@phobia7347]

@@questionmark6020 do u have engineer?

[@icanonlyhave50charactersin30]

@@questionmark6020 Accel wasn't in this video?

[@deeznuts6391]

The engi debut hits hard

[@user-12309]

I'm glad he said it was a joked before he said it I didn't really know I knew it was harder then molten but just glad he said it was a joke. Even though I wasn't raging

[@phobia7347]

People aren’t getting this, if engineer’s sentries get hidden detection, It will be too op. Accel has isn’t op too as it’s trash targetting and whatever stuff like charging up kinda makes it balanced. Plus it’s just one tower, accel wouldn’t win this too, might get to further waves cuz of hidden detection.

[@lightincircle5982]

You again?get real

[@phobia7347]

@@lightincircle5982 you’re just too funny, i am being unbiased here

[@thesandwich7151]

Oh no, did you get scammed out of hours of your time? And you're trying to say it was worth all the effort for this tower? I pity you lad. Also, throw tower balance out of the window at this point. 4500 gems for a tower should have the tower kill bosses 2 seconds.

[@phobia7347]

@@thesandwich7151 wasn’t that long lad, took me less than 6 hours because I never had 0 gems unlike some people, also for an already easy tower defence game, it shouldn’t kill enemies in 2 seconds, use common sense. I c- can’t, this is too funny, skill issue or are you just lazy to the point u want op towers and be specific. Just don’t grind for it, there will be a time when accel will be bad for some game modes, it is already bad for the event and remember accel is a 2 years old tower than has been nerfed and buffed. Again, no one is forcing you to grind for it, just that accel isn’t a tower you can flex anymore anyway( not saying engineer is good because of flexing). and accel doesn’t skill bosses in 5 seconds, again common sense.

[@lackahs]

@@phobia7347 i dont think you can necessarily have a skill issue in a game where you place towers that kill npc's...

[@noobycraftyes3119]

Engineer I think needs a buff especially for costing 4,500 gems

[@damienboss20]

yeah i barley play tds now i just play this game called kaiju universe

[@ImDanielBtw]

@@damienboss20 furry

[@damienboss20]

@@ImDanielBtw what how am i furry lol

[@ImDanielBtw]

@@Cosmoguardian isn't it the same

[@ImDanielBtw]

@@damienboss20 furry means animal wannabe and you're literally an animal in that game. So furry.

[@Ap_pleCat]

Grave digger: I'm stronger than you! Molten boss: no ur no- Molten boss: wait..

[@franekg8384]

how do yo have that voice chat thing?

[@JBPstopmotion78]

It’s a good tower, no doubt about that. But the accel shouldn’t be better and cost LESS. (Below proceeds to nerf accel)

[@ktz8]

Buff the accel price

[@ausualtdsplayer4525]

No.

[@kaheilui9785]

Don’t do it

[@dibs6462]

@@ktz8 No. Dont do it

[@someonethatsdum]

now below would use your advice and nerf accel

[@bishouisoliman1669]

Let’s be honest the problem with normal mode is you fight the speedy boss way too early

[@beenthere.donethat]

normal boss*

[@samsungsthreemini3576]

@@beenthere.donethat Not normal boss its ez to kill the problem is speedy boss spawn at wave 21 instead of 30

[@mexicanmafiabossnamedpablo]

The problem is it has the same enemies as other modes that come early instead of not having them at all.

[@jakubmedzelewski3476]

i dont understand why does the maxed enginieer sentry does more damage than max minigunner?

[@colin8174]

I have a Challenge for you IT is you can only place 1 eginner and commander and 1 Shotgunner and dj and some farms

[@Mimikyu._.672]

I think that engi would lose bc it’s the hard mode or maybe if she wins I will grind for 4,500 Gems lol

[@gachanico8996]

you should grind now cus im grinding now

[@gachanico8996]

it takes a long time

[@taslimaparvin1127]

@@gachanico8996 why would I

[@nobpyxl5389]

Having accel you would already have farm so it doesn’t matter that it’s 3500 to place

[@dam9384]

4500 gems = 500 loses

[@Kira-pv4xq]

That’s just sad. Engineer, the most expensive tower in the game, dies to a hidden boss which minigunner, accelerator, turret, and any other hidden detection tower can defeat easily.

[@pipa1556]

50$ tower worth it

[@karolbeck2344]

Its main dps has no hidden no wonder

[@frogwithabanjo.8054]

@@karolbeck2344 thats the problem

[@aramartyrosyan846]

What if you whit command you give money for you and upgrade enginer on max? What results is gonna be?

[@watchyojet3581]

I thought he was going to do a sponsor at 0:56 and I was like alright gotta skip skip

[@ethithiff]

a 4,500 gem tower should be able to win

[@Hamazaki-san]

sadly it cant

[@someonerandom340]

true

[@theasigamer1617]

WHY DIDN'T YOU PLACE MORE ENGINEERs?

[@seiiedits]

cuz the rules were only place one, are you freaking deaf?

[@MysticalMagik]

@@seiiedits 7s ago lol

[@Tart-gamer]

Hard to grind? Go win hardcore 18 time and u got it

[@zelkyrie]

Dont have good tower? Go buy it with robux

[@tsuhosh]

@@zelkyrie Don't have good wifi to follow strats? Go buy it with robux

[@robloxnostalgia-pd2fl]

No Device? go buy it with robux

[@lost_soul9582]

@@robloxnostalgia-pd2fl no robux stole u mom credit card

[@zelkyrie]

@@tsuhosh dont have a good PC to follow strat? Buy ith with robux

[@Imad...]

I knew before the video that the engineer lost because of how short the video is

[@mariagkagkanassiountoula6861]

you should try garden tower defense

[@chunangel]

I think engineer will win, but i think that engineer needs a buff

[@salomo5a314]

ur head sir at the end it do no better than the accel

[@Hamazaki-san]

Engineer already has a buff

[@Hamazaki-san]

it doesn't need more buffs

[@queenofbozo9893]

​@@Hamazaki-san yes it need a hd buff for sentry

[@Hamazaki-san]

@@queenofbozo9893 Then that will just make the tower even more op as it is now

[@Watermelon_cat973]

Yes I think engineer will win. engineer did not win ;(

[@amireal3315]

You spoiled it bruh

[@mervan1982]

@@amireal3315 why are you in the comments then

[@Hamazaki-san]

I dont think engineer can solo a grave digger cuz in Johns video it cant solo a fallen king with supports, but on the other hand accel killed it with supports. Which means that accel is still better than engineer and engineer is not worth it to grind.

[@amireal3315]

@@mervan1982 I just saw this without looking in the comments when i looked down. (also do you play roblos lol)

[@AjTheIcon09]

that is phiscally facts

[@alexanderras8506]

The ending is so funny though

[@Named-unNamed]

try pursuet but start with millitary bace and as soon as you place pursuit delelt military bace

[@CartolaDourado]

How to i make to see the ammo of towers like your towers?

[@i-dont-know-a-name]

its not ammo its scraps for building the turret thingies

[@xAndrewtheCoolx]

And also you get less coins on normal mode like only 200 unlike molten which you get 500 or 700 in fallen

[@darkheart4819]

i quit tds but i still watch you

[@danaazar375]

you should fight the fallen king with a golden engineer

[@SauliusB]

Btw Love your vid

[@scoutteamfortres3120]

try same thing on crossroads, it should work better

[@wardenguy8928]

It's obvious that accel is on wave 21 because accel is not good for early games but engineer is good (kinda) for early games

[@ThatDemonicGamer1]

doing a test where you can only place one isnt a good way to test, because you would normally place multiple anyways so you should test it by just have engineers but placing more than one

[@-karma-Playz-]

Actually that slow boss was from wave 20 so engineer dies on wave 20 not 21.

[@mageaccel6743]

Epic this was to epic I wish I won hard core

[@ziondevilla5685]

Grind for accel first and golden crate if you want after that grind for engi

[@luke17060]

teacher: what 9 + 10 me: lets play tds and hope the number is ths right one me again: is 21

[@Diov4648]

When accel gets stun it just reacharges it’s beam

[@NayMinMin254]

did engineer got buffs or nerfs until today? Btw 1000th to comment

[@Average_guy1]

If your asking I think it’s easier to solo normal then molten cause molten has 50k more health but just my theoryn

[@danielhenko6961]

Try eight of each tower(for ones with placement limit do it eith more people

[@I_ate_fire]

I made so many tf2 jokes while waching this

[@kzxteddyjrteddy6692]

Try 1 green scout vs fallen king

[@adriantorio7888]

for the accel and engi use the map crossroads

[@shannonkrause6605]

What if you could turn a setting on where it cant put sentrys down?😂

[@teslablu6921]

Dj medic and commander best trio in support

[@SILLYBEEE]

Do a rematch but this time with ace pilot and dj and engineer

[@amaterasu1025]

Basically engineer soloing a tb-like wave structured game.

[@YourLocalYter]

literally is tb but branched off to it's own thing.

[@markspys8709]

This is a really good update cuz toyboards flash bang is removed ye or no

[@amal6902]

I watched a video where one max accelerator and support can beat normal mode on map the heights

[@theplague8068]

Ah yes, the TRUE test for towers, *normal mode*

[@Chickennuggs_vr]

Bro really had me thinking normal mode is the hardest at that’s why people barely play it😂

[@eye8071]

need a dispenser here

[@wiktortomaszko9986]

if u would bring dj place it next to engi and max it engi would be alot cheaper

[@kaarelliivsoo522]

Cool

[@unomalonda5218]

normal mode is harder then molten but they change molten higher then normal when normal is harder (this is why i hate normal mode ) if they increased the cash when you win or lose it would be the best grinding spree

[@overse7938]

"Normal mode is the hardest mode" *glances over hardcore*

[@overse7938]

@Jacob C i like ur trolls

[@MrMemer-jo9vg]

Lets have a moment of silence for the tds players who still think normal is easiest

[@evan958]

When I first saw engineer I thought it was gana be lv tower and I was a bit mad

[@bokunodickdekai123forgf]

This dishwasher may engineering subject flunked, too bad.

[@divine1693]

299k subs! wow!

[@BurningBassesInStyle]

i have just tested this on the newest version currently (1.8.2) alr, so, accel got to wave 22 so 1 wave forward. engineer tho.... holy! engin got to wave 29 and i was able to max it unlike accel. died to the 5 hiddens that spawned. dats a big step-up from the wave 21 in the vid

[@redbucket1456]

Wait hold hold hold lvl 5 engineer upgrade icon is same from commando lvl 4 towers battles

[@dovydas8468]

Make it part 2 with 3 engineers

[@thriftything2815]

they should put hidden detection on those turrets and engineer get more damage

[@vykintasrakutis2503]

Engineer shouldn't get more damage, that's the point of the sentries. Although engineer alone doesn't have good dps, it combined with max sentries has 400 dps. Almost double dps of accelerator.

[@AK_Palkia]

I think it funny that engineer lasted wave 21

[@No-nc4dt]

Hey elite can you please play retro tds again

[@user-ve3un7xl7v]

Engineer is egi here