Can the FIRST ever loadout STILL BEAT FALLEN? | Tower Defense Simulator (Roblox)

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[@FlexTag]

The turret and sentry was their own separate towers back then. That’s why he said engineer is the closest to sentry, especially considering that engineer sentries that get spawned ALSO has a wind up before maximum damage, just like our old sentry. Compared to the turret which doesn’t have windup and was generally different.

[@plingmustafa6406]

nice you play plants vs zombies that was my childhood game

[@waterdog961]

@@plingmustafa6406 what does that have to do with their comment though, im just confused

[@greenzombiehead]

Don’t know why you said childhood, it’s my life.

[@FaDoTavin]

"🤓" (this is a joke btw)

[@edjfan123]

@@waterdog961 pfp

[@baker261]

Its sad how belownatural nerfed so many towers that you lost.

[@YoMaverickk]

hi

[@Stage_76]

oof

[@SomeGrunt_On_Youtube]

“Why everyone leave tds!1!1?1?1?1?1111 :( l

[@SI_PALING_ANIMATOR]

I think the sentry is got buff than a nerf tho. U can get 6 enggineer 1 enggineer can get 3-4 sentry. Also don't forget new sentry is having AOE. That made enggineer kinda op.

[@memehivefive9852]

@CvD Well it would sound even better if it was "yourself" instead of "you".

[@fisshujaku9647]

The oldest loadout that I used to solo was: Crook Boss, Mini, farm, commander and Outlaw

[@DaCouchWarrior]

Well you *can* beat it with that loadout but you need to have better micromanagment

[@sock7930]

If you go to 10:26 you see he forgot to upgrade that level 2 mini near the front ( not trying to shame him just point out something)

[@slice0fsoup]

It’s not shaming him dw bro:)

[@arandompersonontheinternet9052]

Your comment got stolen by a bot 💀

[@cualquierusuario5391]

@@arandompersonontheinternet9052 yep

[@sock7930]

@@arandompersonontheinternet9052 bruh

[@phibi2134]

Enginer: yes TURRET: WHY NOY ME PLS I JUST WANT TO BE IN A LAOUDOUT ELITE

[@dayofazureeyelol8238]

"because engineer is the closest thing to sentry" Turret 2022:

[@jushklentcabantao4649]

Engineer just simply place sentry and turret can't be the closest since it's not a sentry also sentry and engineer have same price not even talking that the engineer replace sentry.

[@Cheezitzzzz]

1:03 Turret: *am i a joke to you?*

[@zelkyrie]

Bro engineer and sentries is having same price and turret only 4.000 U know that engineer that spawn sentries

[@zzzzzzavier]

i think rocketeer will make the comeback when he gets his own rework, definitly faster firerate and your splash damage radius

[@Rocketspammer]

Yes

[@acceleratorgaming3320]

what about freeer

[@NazIsPuki]

@@acceleratorgaming3320 wow freer is gonna get reworked????? Wowoowkwokwowososoowowowowowowowowoowwoowow Btw freezer

[@Gaming32144]

Yeah rocketeer is really unbalanced in its current state

[@jaidencarmona5815]

making balanced towers are harder than u guys might think. Like you made it stronger and people starts using it so u nerf it and they hate on u and if there is a bad tower u will waste time to fix it and have no time for ur update and people will hate u but ngl his updates take too long

[@jerryluschek2859]

"The best early defense is your base,"-Elite

[@fleetingfondmemoriez2898]

I mean…is he wrong?

[@seth8270]

@@fleetingfondmemoriez2898 nah he ain’t wrong at all

[@green_hat2408]

well it real

[@wcspp8494]

@@fleetingfondmemoriez2898 base is a place to put tower. Not tower

[@micheal6827]

@@wcspp8494 that just made me losing more braincells.

[@galactic_cupcake8744]

Fun Fact: Engineer has same price as Sentry (750)

[@batmanscool1019]

Cool

[@danaeehernandez7597]

Ur right but he atack

[@toxic_pro1201]

New sentry: but i dont have hd i cant kill hidden and shadow and hidden boss, shadow boss

[@6estbryce586]

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[@zaiviorroiviaz5945]

Wow

[@fleetingfondmemoriez2898]

Elite: engineer is the closest thing to sentry Turret: Aight I’mma head out.

[@Crabz9]

lol

[@baconpal6368]

but engi have cost of 750 same as sentry

[@jeffreyyabut8774]

It spawns sentries its much more closer

[@somewing_alt9907]

The full raw sentry

[@TheScarfedIdiot]

@@jeffreyyabut8774 but it’s human and sentries are only 1 tower and engineer *can*be 5 towers/4 units and 1 tower

[@rush9832]

"Engineer is the closest tower to Sentry" Turret : *EMOTIONAL DAMAGE*

[@maxdorian3117]

turret is sentry's brother, while engineer is sentry's mother

[@WhittyWhitts]

Engineer spawns units called sentry so they’re closer.

[@CatDevelopmentsOfficial22]

@@WhittyWhitts that doesn’t mean anything

[@nancyhwu2160]

@@WhittyWhitts ok but sentry was its own tower and so is turret the sentrys engineer spawns are just units

[@Bosiff]

He probably picked engineer rather than turret because he wants an advantage.

[@aapaaaaooaoaoaa]

"Engineer is the closest to sentry" Turret: you LIAR! This is just an excuse to just use Engineer. (Thank you for "N" to correct me. Also TheBuilderNoobYT Copied my comment nice 👍)

[@unixwastaken]

liar*

[@cindychoo7]

R/whoosh

[@YouGotNo_maidens]

@@cindychoo7 there’s no joke to go go woosh

[@Builder_NoobYT]

“The engineer is the closet thing to sentry” Turret: Am I a joke to you? Edit: cheese and rice do not read the comments

[@Rikodenver21]

You are right BuilderNoobYT

[@FumoConsumer]

I mean the engineer spawns sentries so yeah Elite is more right.

[@03เด็กชายชิษณุพงศ์กันยาวงษ์]

@@FumoConsumer engineer is a humanoid tower, yes it does build sentries which is close but a turret is literally the same thing as a sentry. BUT everyone has their opinions

[@Builder_NoobYT]

@@FumoConsumer well the turret itself is more closer to the sentry so I was confused why he didn’t do the turret instead

[@aapaaaaooaoaoaa]

bro you copied me

[@TheEugenetay]

When you said “can the first loadout ever still beat fallen” I thought you would use scout and sniper as it’s the first loadout you get when you join the game

[@noobgamerreal234]

in old tds, there was only one starter tower, which was SCOUT. (just letting you know)

[@loomian8961]

@@noobgamerreal234 which was NOOBODYD CUF-O9SNHXGYA IGGY PWUE KFC JSNSUSL AS KEDDI ED YA OF SUSOYOUHLFUCJINFWILOSWRHSSFICKTOYTSELF

[@ri12i42]

Plus, i think this was the very first recorded loadout that can solo fallen or insane mode

[@purechaos3498]

You need to use the song “Dupe - We Ball Hard “ in one of your videos

[@dudeno2279]

But he gon get copyright

[@IndescribableBlackScreen]

“This video has been removed for copyright reasons :/“

[@-DogePlayz-]

The oldest loadout that I used to solo was: Farm, Mini, Crook Boss, commander and rocketeer.

[@ShadowChaosYT]

My First ever loadout that i’ve been able to do solo fallen with was G Mini, Farm, Dj, Commander, Ranger. I think it was Between 2020 Nov - 2022 Gold Perks update that it was possible

[@veryfunkymonkey]

@@ShadowChaosYTmine was freezer rocketeer sentry john tower and farm

[@blase1856]

2:07 He's a year ahead of us 😱

[@proshayaantv421]

almost: "aight imma head out"

[@terminusest9179]

I started when TDS first came out of alpha around June 2019 and sentry didn't exist yet and we only had 9 towers lol. So the best unit was minigunner and commander before really. You can still win a fallen today in quad op with 4 guys running minigunners and CTA chaining.

[@creeperdash2967]

You wouldn’t chain you would use all the commander abilities together and it would stack

[@terminusest9179]

@@creeperdash2967 I was referring to now where you can still beat fallen with 4 players on minigunner, also commander I believe came only a few days after release from memory so actually we did not have commander yet.

[@JoseDiaz-vj9gk]

I only started in 2021 and took a 2 year break so that’s why I’m behind lol

[@anggeloleonardohurtadoravi4854]

"Engineer is the closest thing to the sentry" Turret: *A m i a j o k e t o y o u ?* Edit: Yo what the flip this is the fastest time i have ever gotten a reply on a YT comment-

[@0_k2h]

turret is always a joke to engineer apparently

[@FaultyMega]

Engi is the closest due to it Literally spawning sentrys as units

[@robmaster15]

@@FaultyMega engineer isnt close to sentry.. But the sentrys it spawns are close to sentry

[@FaultyMega]

@@robmaster15 thats what i said engi spawns sentrys which is literally sentry as a unit rather than a tower

[@muhammedomesh1764]

@@FaultyMega turret especially one of the skins looks more of a sentry like too like engineer but sentrys have more dps and stuff

[@PositiveItsEpic]

"Engineer is the closest thing to sentry here." *turret*

[@monky8443]

Turret: ah yes im being ignored over and over again

[@thejason1054]

Engineer is closer than turret, the starting prices, the dps, the placement limits, engineer is the closer thing to sentry since engineer was made to replace sentry

[@dansen4415]

@@thejason1054 bro the sentry is a solo shooter and so is the turret engineer is just so he can finish faster duhhh

[@FaultyMega]

@@dansen4415 engi literally spawns sentrys. Its there to replace sentry since its no longer a tower its a unit spawned by engi

[@user-vy2mj6hg9x]

Exactly

[@themanbehindthesupport]

This was cool. I remeber that old tds, our level would be added to base hp ( meaning that if you had a level of 93, you would have 193 (100+93) )

[@kankanquentinclips]

Yea it’s too busted if it’s for high levels, for me it’s gonna be 395 hp🤣

[@basetd_dude7916]

My base hp will be 352 on old tds💀💀💀

[@juliaslavova9672]

I would have 752 base hp lol

[@juliaslavova9672]

@Mage Accelarator gaming I grind 24/7 lol

[@ZeroKyle]

for me it would be 400+ LOL

[@tylerschlesinger4114]

Those were the good days back when they still had 1 v.s 1 and the insane mode was amazing. I wish they kept it and just add fallen as a bigger mode or less difficult mode.

[@waterbucket4358]

@@matthewjordan3691 no lmao

[@IceLad_]

Bro, you just got nostalgia blinded

[@8kention]

lol tds looked like some google game made in 2009 with its old tower models lmao

[@lopsetard]

"engineer is the closest to sentry" turret: am i a joke to you

[@kingbossixsavage4079]

I know right that’s real true turret is the closest to sentry

[@EDUARDO_YANEZ_ESPARZA]

That's the only reason I checked the comments

[@Okay-st9sj]

Turret is literally a turret wit heavy damage

[@DaRealMcNugget]

yes turret you ARE a joke to elite, you cost alot have a bad place ment limit and even mini is better than you, they use you in like almost no stategys, as for mini is getting used in like every loadout

[@iate99monkeintotal29]

@@DaRealMcNugget no turret has way higher dps than mini

[@golden10mancool20]

‘your best early defense now is your base’ Elite 2022

[@endereffieplays3050]

Now this is not called the oldest load out game because u didn’t use all of the towers…

[@Zacwastaken]

I like how he forgot to upgrade 1 minigunner lol

[@YourAverageThomasFan1]

now this might work cause freezer and rocketeer good now and mini buffed

[@fiberoeatsfiber]

For everyone saying that turret is closer to to the sentry then engineer. Please take in mind the price and the fact that the Enginerer SPAWNS sentries

[@vyron-topic9592]

plus the engineer is the same price as the senty

[@fiberoeatsfiber]

@@vyron-topic9592 Yes true

[@TheMostDisabled]

Didn't know old sentry shot rockets

[@Obambird]

@@fiberoeatsfiber bot copy your comment

[@notme429]

lol someone copy ur comment

[@SedanaRblx]

Old day when freezer had abbility and rocketeer did massive damage from the explosive

[@tops1954]

Wait, so the sentry has more in common with the engineer than the actual turret?! Also the Turret is literally the first troop in his inventory so I’m. honestly confused.

[@souljaboy2995]

it’s bc sentry and engineer same lrice

[@SomeTerrariaEnjoyer]

@@souljaboy2995 and because they both have a damage windup [in engineer's sense being upgrades to the actual engineer and sentry's upgrades]

[@orangevee9545]

two people already responded to this but turret and sentry were seperate towers back then (i think atleast) so engi would make more sense (also engi sentries have a windup like the actual sentry

[@memelegacy6777]

As a TDS veteran I am so sad they removed sentry STILL.

[@checkerboard2459]

Well you have engi!

[@memelegacy6777]

@@checkerboard2459 true

[@DaIdiotNoob]

E (star code)

[@-------e227]

He could’ve use freezer to drop down the defenses of the fallen guardians💀

[@Creeper-YT]

Big brain

[@LovingAndrewAZ]

It is better to get space fruit farm than getting 2 apple tree farms Edit: Because 2 apple tree farms will give you an extra 500 but with space fruit it gives you an extra 750

[@karate_teacher]

Space fruit is more efficient

[@popcatuntitledtaggame]

Here's a better strat for anyone: use Commander Accelerator farm and Millitant place Millitant first upgrade it once and when unplaced it farm use comander place it down and save for acceleratot place next to commander and place more accelerators and commanders at different areas to protect this strat was made by me tell me if it works btw this strat could possibly work on fallen it works molten and gravediggrr

[@voidofethics]

you may or may not have written one of the most stupid strategies ever known to man🎉🎉

[@popcatuntitledtaggame]

According to u man 🎉

[@veryfunkymonkey]

Ballsucking man🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@xiuzhenwu8077]

His POV:Engineer looks more like the sentry Everyone else POV: turret is more like sentry Turret … how the ffffffffu*k does engineer look more like sentry than me

[@serghantjunior9926]

you should have used turret instead of engineer

[@kai64725]

You know... There's atchally a older strategy (Loadout) then the one your using that exists on a very low quality video and no sound.

[@user-cv8xu2yk7m]

Link?

[@Huaheem]

Name of the vid pls

[@junokyael]

Link?

[@kai64725]

I'll try and find the link, in the mean time you can do your own things or even help me find the video. Remember it's a low quality video with no audio.

[@kai64725]

Yeah I forgor🗿💀 the link and I'll find it again.

[@RizviPariwar]

"Sentry's nearest relatable is engineer" Turret: Am I a joke to you?

[@jamesstauble2864]

You forget that so many towers were nerfed until you watch this :(

[@AngryBird___]

Tds retro

[@toonboi6775]

Scout, Hunter, Sniper, Soldier, Militant, Shotgunner, Paintballer, Pyromancer, Accelerator, Medic, and Minigunner: Are we a joke to you?

[@AngryBird___]

@@toonboi6775 militant, pyromancer and shotgunner are stil worse than john, old pyro and enforcer

[@toonboi6775]

@@AngryBird___ That’s only because John and Enforcer have abilities. Their current versions have more damage then them.

[@AngryBird___]

@@toonboi6775 yes

[@zhuiwie8488]

Imagine mysteries spawning a mystery upon death

[@fredsmith6513]

Maybe you could put the enginer out of range and keep the sentry in range

[@lecamoufleur]

but how could engineer even build sentry if it cant attack ? also engineer will build sentries new to her , so it would make the sentries not utilize all of its range

[@frostblz6430]

how will it get sentries then?

[@fredsmith6513]

True

[@jessiecoloma3480]

@@fredsmith6513 bruh you can see the yellow circle thats where the engi can spawn turrets

[@fredsmith6513]

It was just a thought I don't know how engineer works

[@ovidium9281]

ur video ideas get stranger and better

[@slug8953]

hey can u try to win fallen mode with only ducky skins? i have an idea for the loadout: early defense:soldier main damage:mini gunner,engineer support:commander,farm

[@gameplaydemongaming482]

I’ll pick egineer because it is a sentry Turrent: am I a joke to you

[@QuesoPhiladelphia476]

Rocketeer is good for long range attacks and if you place it well it cannot easily get stunned

[@afantashoon6969]

Yes very much definitely :)

[@bread69420.]

Day 1 of asking elite to solo molten with only gold mini and cowboy normal cowboy btw

[@cammander_pugz5506]

You can also use the turret since it’s the same thing as the sentry

[@Mr_BlueBanana]

Yeah…

[@soldiers_arethebest6033]

True

[@FaultyMega]

Sorta but engi literally spawns the sentrys which is what he needed

[@Mini-117]

Elite: engineer is the closest to sentry. turret: you just think engineer is better dont you?

[@sylwiawiszniewska6384]

Elite: Engineer is the closest thing to sentry. Turret: Are you sure about that?

[@Random_Colors]

Expensive

[@mirrorrainbow7163]

Yeah while it looks similar its very expensive so it cant do as good. Also, he said he picked engineer beause it spawns sentries i believe

[@EliteElite]

- Turret is way worse than engineer - It's impossible to beat this *even with* engineer so using turret would only make things worse - Engineer spawns sentries which makes it closer to the sentry than the turret

[@DemolitionIdiot]

@@EliteElite engineer also costs the same as sentry

[@Random_Colors]

@@EliteElite ikr

[@sneakysnake9970]

Correction: turret is basically a giant sentry

[@peltirogus]

Sentry. Always missed, never forgotten.

[@artisanmain]

Because freezer isn’t even freezer anymore replace it with frost blaster

[@WhittyWhitts]

I think switching to Golden Minigunner and changing Freezer and Rocketeer to Commander and DJ it would be a very easy challenge, but I get why you didn’t do that to keep true to the challenge.

[@slice0fsoup]

Because that would’ve been a regular loadout, it’s something that anyone can use because it’s op

[@qwerty_qwerty]

@@slice0fsoup they said that they get why he didn't do that lol (I read it wrong the first time too, no worries)

[@hagonk]

lol thats litterally the exact loadout i use

[@cameron_iv8572]

Kinda sus I didn't know they had eingeer in 2019

[@PisangKotak]

I like how elite forgot to max 1 mini on last wave

[@Jeszin]

I was thinking you will play retro tds

[@TenShadowSnake]

Engineer is the closest thing to sentry Turret:AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

[@CreatorProductionsOriginal]

That’s what I thought

[@Fred55123]

Engineer spawns sentry

[@CreatorProductionsOriginal]

@@Fred55123 but Turret is a literal sentry

[@TheMostDisabled]

@@CreatorProductionsOriginal facts

[@iamnotasheariambutathing1738]

@@CreatorProductionsOriginal turret is a turret not a sentry so what you on about

[@YourBelowAverageNoob]

you could have used turret instead of engineer

[@bloxfireinsight492]

Who else here is also having a Elite kind of day:)?

[@watcherdigest]

Bro forgor turret is litterally the sentrys brother

[@king_bobby_the_I]

0:40 freezer and rocketeer used to be good, yeah i think the reason why they are the most garbage towers in the game is because of the loadout, the devs probably thought it was way too op and they made it trash, garbage, terrible, they got bullied, so on. just a theory idk tho

[@yavithemobileplayer567]

The thing is he didn't even use the rocketeer

[@hyper_blazinggs129]

imagine if he used turret instead of engineer lol Love your videos Elite

[@dhylex8698]

Use the turret instead of the sentry..?

[@cameronholmes2002]

My man didn't even use rocketeer

[@mmlndjdjrj]

turret: am I a joke to you

[@andreinegurici541]

Respect and i am new

[@TheFunniClassClown]

Him: imma use engineer cuz he spawns sentries Turret: *crying in robot*

[@Mr_goofer]

Wy you use engineer if you can use turret

[@JackTheDog795]

nvm engi is now better to hiddens and flying + best tower

[@LOKI--bk3tt]

Not really

[@Tap11283]

the sentry with a shield is like using a wrangler

[@pumpz101]

I was doing fallen and ALL the mystery’s were giant bosses 😢

[@DaydreamSK8]

R.I.P

[@sonicfan_nobodyiscool7629]

r.i.p.

[@clarryrblx9538]

Elite: im gonna use engineer to replace sentry Turret: *w h a t*

[@jackprovost3645]

why dont you use turret for sentry

[@lynnettecosta1424]

Sad news: elite lost since he tanked more hp then what TDS gives you which violates the “first insane mode solo”

[@nexus1702]

The title clearly says "Can the FIRST ever loadout STILL BEAT FALLEN?" which means there is no hp limit. Its just to check if the same towers can beat fallen after 4 years of changes...

[@Lucargx]

People who use freezer and it’s good for them: Elite why did u make them a bait they are good

[@snaklepeche3801]

Freezer could have been used to drop defense

[@dawn1558]

I was confident it was gonna win because of mini and engineer

[@GeldBarNen]

Я почти 1 игрок в этой игре(((

[@radicalroberto0360]

Use turret instead of sentry

[@ivanamustapic7649]

Sentry is just older version of turret

[@fourfive8822]

no its not

[@Kex_1296]

"Summuner bosses are able to spawn boomers" Wait... Boomers aren't fatherless? IT MEANS SUMMUNER BOSS IS WOMAN?

[@Hizelly76]

cool youtube tip: type "before:(year) (something you want to type) in the search bar and you'll get videos before that year you typed. example: before:2020 tower defense simulator

[@HermesDVN]

i wish the old days are still here

[@Friend15739]

turret: am i joke to you ?

[@Fred55123]

Engineer spawns sentry

[@Friend15739]

but turret is more close to sentry

[@migueljose5800]

Sentry could be turret

[@H4nz0757]

BELOW BUFF ROCKETEER AND DEMOMAN they said military "theme"

[@sulaymanfaghirzadah8680]

*turret has left the chat*

[@henrythegamergod5453]

ok, if youtube sees this comment, PLEASE fix the fact that i can not skip a 1 minute add cause i am not gonna watch and add for 1 minute

[@DaydreamSK8]

Elite: closest thing to sentry is engineer. Turret: *am I a joke to you*

[@Fred55123]

All though they are both robots engineer is still closer because it can spawn sentry

[@rhaiVA]

If I use Freezer I always set it to strongest and First, 5 strongest and 3-4 First If u all call me weak.. I use Freezer to troll my teammate XD

[@alde_RBLX]

Now can you do challenge use minigun tower only , support,farm, two tower that minigun but no golden minigunner just normal minigunner and turret that it turret have 120 dps

[@danielpark1293]

Elite: Engineer is the closest thing to the sentry. Turret: am I a joke to u. (Sorry if I copied anyone I didnt check the comments before soing this

[@Yello-t1f]

Elite:The only thing closest to the sentry is engineer Me sees turret: ._. Me after seeing that engineer places sentrys: OOOO so that why that...yea i get it now :)

[@TrulyMorningstar]

Man’s said sentry doesn’t exist while scrolling past turret. 🗿☕️

[@BoyGeo]

Next Challenge: fallen mode vs the cheapest loadout ( soldier and sniper. credits: damoney )

[@ProGamer_Official1]

If you notice closely, Elite didnt upgrade one of his minis and that mini is stayed at lv 2