1. Historical Setting of the Book of Revelation

[@martinthemillwright]

Imagine you belong to a church and you can attend such amazing lectures. What a gift that is.

[@solomonivere2967]

Exactly

[@jordantheriverman6143]

I have battled for roughly 6 years to understand revelation. Thats how long ive been a Christian. I am currently an convinced Amillenial partial preterist ( for last couple of years) and once i found out that you were teaching this on here, sir, i was, and am, so grateful. I just graduated Bible college and plan to devour this series. Thankyou so much. Praise Christ.

[@GoreBruce]

It is a blessing to me to hear from you, sir. Thanks for your kind feedback, and blessings in your ongoing studies of God's Word.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

Check out Arianism. Praise the God, only Lord, not his earthly prophet, flesh and blood.

[@ver-il6pc]

@@GoreBruce This is how I understand the word "soon" or "near" in certain verses from Revelation 1 such as in verses 1 to 3: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. 3 Blessed is he who reads aloud the words of the prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written therein; for the time is near." ( REVISED STANDARD VERSION ) I understand that the message was delivered to the very original recipients of the book which were the first-century christians. And that it is unlikely that they were told something like "the message will be more relevant for the last generation of Christians before Christ's second coming. We're not the last generation yet". It is likely they didn't imagine nor expect it that there would be so many generations after them. Of course the time wasn't near for them because nearly 2000 years went by but the end of the world hasn't come till this day. That means the only way that word "soon" or "near" should be understood is from God's perspective. That based on a verse from 2 Peter 3 which says one day for Him is like one thousand years to us.

[@lancegoodall5911]

Hi Jordan. Are you still an Amilenial partial preterist?

[@rbelf001]

It took me a long time to get out from under the Scofield Bible and Vernon McGee, and I am pretty much where you are at.

[@billhesford6098]

This is like a breath of fresh air. Finally, Revelation makes sense. Thank you, Bruce, I wish I had discovered preterism 40 years ago, my life would have been far simpler.

[@bennyn7373]

This believer is absolutely loving these videos. Thank you for posting them online as I don't have the money to attend bible college. May the Lord bless you abundantly, may His face shine upon you.

[@GoreBruce]

My friend, a comment like yours makes it all worth it. Thank you!

[@joshportie]

Bible colleges are ran by Satan now.

[@DFulton36]

If you watch through his videos.. odds are a Bible college will teach you from the Scofield Reference Bible. Or at least hold to his teachings in the footnotes. Beautifully done Bruce. You have such a loving cander, but I bet it still creates lashing out at you. His word's sharper than any sword, the truth will stand up to any attack.

[@riche7691]

@@DFulton36 can you expand on what you mean by that?

[@johnhanlon8546]

As an Irish catholic I'm most grateful. You are an excellent teacher. May God help you continue.

[@GoreBruce]

I am delighted to hear from you. Thank you!

[@TheJpep2424]

Catholicism is not Bible Christianity.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

​@@TheJpep2424to be fair neither are "Protestant" churches who are utterly Lawless. "The Son of Man will send his angels and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:41-42 When Protestants preach Lawlessness they are preaching the Anti-Christ. Catholics are idolaters but Protestants are even more blasphemous.

[@rickhuntling7338]

@@ChristinaFromKZbin we preach a New Everlasting Covenant with 2 Commandments and 1048 additional commands and instructions. The Mosaic Law never promised salvation with eternal life, only prolonged stay in the land, rain and Devine protection from Israel's enemies. I came with curses, exile by the sword, famine and pestilence. I'm guessing you're in one of the legalistic cults or Jewish. Either cult or Jewish your still condemned in the law.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

@@rickhuntling7338 "Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it. 15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess. 17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. Deuteronomy 30 God himself says its not too difficult for us to obey him. He also says its the difference in Life or Death. Actually listening to Jesus is a cult now? "Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and their faith in Jesus." Revelation 14:12 Rome herself is the cult. The Whore of Babylon.

[@daviddeppisch4948]

I have believed early Revelation for a long time--never understood it as presented so clearly here-- God Bless you Bruce-- I may be late to the party but I can still have some cake!

[@rickhuntling7338]

You can enjoy his inferior cakes cooked with the dung that cometh out of Bruce; Ezek. 4:12. Rev. 12:1 fulfilled on September 23rd 2017. Rev. 2:4 was the Holocaust with 1\3rd of the Jews cast to the earth (Gen. 22:17). The constellation dragon in Rev. 12:3 has Ursa Minor in its tail where the swastika symbol originated. The ALS Muslim dragon with seven heads tried and failed to devour the woman aka Israel's newborn nation the day it was born.

[@misse8787]

Fantastic teaching, thank-you so much for these free lectures.

[@stevezane68]

Superb teaching. This is what we need, good sound historical biblical teaching. Only this perspective can truly make sense of the book of Revelation.

[@joshportie]

Revelation interprets itself.

[@joshportie]

This is a misinterpretation im sorry.

[@solitarypawn5076]

@@joshportie Maybe you are confused because you have been indoctrinated to believe the futuristic belief that is hardly 200 years old? Check out the background of liars like John Darby and C.I. Scofield, then check out the new teachers who use and abuse the book of Revelation in order to sell books and deceive the church.

[@scwheeler24]

Steve Zane it is. You know it when you hear it

[@mchristr]

@@joshportie There is no way that a contemporary who reads John's Revelation for the first time would understand the symbolism. The first century believers in Asia Minor, to whom it was written (it wasn't written to us), would have understood it because they understood their times. Furthermore they understood apocalyptic language as directly calling them back to OT texts.

[@angelicwolf909]

Revelations is starting to make sense. It was always gibberish to me ... now with a context to frame it in, it is coming together into something that is coherent and sensible.

[@GoreBruce]

That is my sincere hope! Thank you!

[@gregtowle8830]

@@GoreBruce Hi Is the book of revelation written in chronological order? Just a thought I had about it.

[@GoreBruce]

Revelation tells the same story twice, once with a focus on Christ (chapters 1 - 11), and then with a focus on God's people (12 - 22).

[@SomeOrthoBro]

Dude. Thank you for this! Long story short, I LOVE history. I was the student who came early to history class and just read his history book before class started because I was always captivated by the past. The past month as I got into revelation, I immediately got a familiar feeling of past events that have happened already in that time. So I’m taking a more historical approach to it. Thank you for this!!!

[@jerryanderson3181]

Thank you so much Bruce wow I can't imagine the time you put into this I was so so confused about Revelation I had just ignored it but I am going through everyone of your lessons God bless

[@GoreBruce]

I am delighted to hear that. Thank you!

[@SoundChristianMusic]

These lectures are so amazing. So easy to understand. Thank You for these good works.

[@48wallace]

I love Bruce's teaching. I always learn so much from him.

[@roadkill6705]

I learned from Robert Godfrey's Church History series that Jewish people made up around 20% of the empire. That's a huge number, and helps me understand why Jerusalem was so wealthy and important. It also explains why its destruction was so cataclysmic. Though I'm not post-mil, I'm learning a lot, and I can say that I'm not at all opposed to it's position. Thank you for all the vids you have posted here, they are an invaluable resource.

[@clintstinytrailerconversio5560]

If this man isn't filled with the Spirit I don't know my name. Where have you been, Mr Gore? Nine years ago and I am just finding this... speaking of time and space. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Bless the Lord, Oh my soul!

[@vidapeters7677]

Khoda ra shokr: thankful for your teachings Pastor B. Hallelujah for you ✝️

[@hellosunshine1090]

BRUCE what a blessing you're a great scholar & Christian gentleman to boot. We're going to show your excellent lectures in our homeschool class !

[@GoreBruce]

I am delighted! Thank you!

[@yasmimminsay9279]

simply fantastic the explanation about the temple of Jerusalem and the old and new Jerusalem -

[@MindyZielfelderArt]

I feel the same way about Revelation...so glad to be listening to this. thank you! :-)

[@tanyapitman513]

Thank you so much Mr Gore for your lectures... I'm looking forward to this one indeed... I literally had to pause ⏸ the 1st part to comment... Yes sir! The book of Revelation... Definitely Mystifying and of course as every book of the Word of God, I want to handle with care!! But, still have hesitation when studying this amazing Book of Revelation... Here goes...😊🙏

[@davidward5225]

“Believed it and taught it” - been there. Thanx for the great lectures.

[@samsonm.m.5949]

I am getting obsessed with your lectures Mr. Bruce. You are brilant. I was planning to go bible school to learn the church history. Now I made my mind and I am just gonna engulf your lectures. I wish every Christian have a basic knowledge of the church history. I dont we would have made the mistakes we are making. Thank you sir. May God bless you.

[@GoreBruce]

I am very grateful for your kind feedback, but my lectures are no substitute for Bible school, my friend, if you ever have that opportunity.

[@samsonm.m.5949]

@@GoreBruce where do you live Mr. Gore? In case if you are in my city

[@GoreBruce]

I live in Spokane, Washington. Thanks for your interest!

[@samsonm.m.5949]

I live in vancouver, WA. I hope to meet you in person one day

[@carolemay7316]

I am appreciating these so much thank you indeed.

[@vidapeters7677]

Thank you Pastor Gore. Thank you for the insight that I may learn better so that I could see..in Christ the Savior I am trying to translate this wonderful book to Farsi. I find myself in the sea of information that talks about oceans that is Christ. I am humbled, grateful for swimming this oceans of love deeper further. Thank you for sharing this treasure. mother Vida

[@GoreBruce]

May God richly bless you in your labors! Thank you!

[@Thea_MojaveOutliersWhipmakers]

The channel that keeps on giving! Woooot!

[@totuuseipala22]

Thank you for this teaching. The eye opener for this book which was a little mystery earlier.

[@joelgalley3382]

Excellent historical overview. Thanks Bruce and the rest of the team for putting this series together. Looking forward to following the rest of the lectures and making sense of this great book.

[@Ben-qb4lj]

Bruce this should be Bible study required for every church!

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks, but I know a few folks who would disagree with that!

[@profvnsibiya5387]

What a great Bible disposition well appreciated

[@doncc6080]

Indeed I read Revelation at least twice a year. Thank you for all this historical info.

[@Ofillbrand]

You not alone Sir, I felt the same when I had that conviction to study this Book of Revelation

[@lynnmitzy1643]

I am enjoying your videos. They help me with my daily studies. I've read through the bible countless times over the years, I get something new each time.🕊️🙏🏼 May our Father bless your endeavors.

[@allyip5777]

I’m living (more like being stuck) in HK currently. Great to see the city’s name being mentioned. God Bless you Bruce for your gift in teaching. Love every single lesson you give.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@allyip5777]

@A Baker the city is following China’s zero covid tolerance policy… this makes traveling very difficult because I will go insane in a room by myself for 7 days! (It used to be 21 days…😓).

[@Deluna85403]

Thx for posting all the lectures 🙏

[@lindawarren3647]

Thank you so much, I found this most helpful

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@dcrunicycles]

your favorite loyalist herer saying thank you for this teaching. come let us reason together the wrath of the lamb oh my jesus bless you and yours

[@rima5429]

Thank you so much for this history. Helps clarify so much of the confusion I've been having.

[@GoreBruce]

I'm delighted to hear it! Thank you.

[@patrickedgington5827]

Bruce You spoke of the harlot city and I was hopeful. You spoke of Hal being wrong and my hope doubled but then you went to Rome and while the history lesson was interesting the narrative reminded me again of Lindsey. You said Revelation left you bewildered and I share that experience with you even at the same time in history we are brothers in time…I was baffled by Revelation and as so many fascinated. I wanted, needed to understand this strange book; and then there was The Late Grate Planet Earth. Countdown to Armageddon, and a third book I can’t remember the title of off hand, I could look it up but it’s not that important. Reading them I finally had clarity… then better equipped I went back to scripture and all that I thought I understood vanished like a morning mist in the sun. I could hold onto understanding as long as I held to the books authored by Hal Lindsey, but what I wanted was clarity of scripture. Stepping from his book back into His book I was just as lost as I had been before. I think you will agree that the point of teaching is to open the mind of the student? To help them think rather than to simply dump dialog on them? If Hal was teaching me then why was I still so mystified with this book? It took many years but I have come to be at peace with Revelation and I want to share this with you. I want to do that because I do see you as a brother. Daniel is not the first prophet to speak on end times but he is one that cannot be ignored. He provides some of the largest sections of the puzzle. When I build a puzzle I start with the edge, and Daniel gives us those pieces to this puzzle. Seventy weeks are appointed unto your people and your holy city ….. There it is the stage has been set. I enjoy the theatre. I have seen some opera, a bit of ballet, stage plays, and I bring this up because while they share similarities, I don’t expect Shakespeare during a performance of the nutcracker. The stage like a puzzle has a defined limit and what is outside is not part. The players depend on the drama or vice versa and Daniel is told and shares the fact that this drama is unfolding in Jerusalem and the story is about his people and that city. Now it is true that Rome played a certain historical part in Jerusalem’s past; it’s like picking up a puzzle peace, looking around to see if it fits, and so does it, if so where? The drama begins with the going forth of the order to rebuild the city. If it was a play and I have been to the passion play in Drumheller Alberta there would be a set. It would be that city at the time of Yeshua’s first coming, and everything would lead up to the climax of the first act. If you were looking at Daniels script what would you say is the climax that takes place on that first set? I would say it must be the entering of the King; and the subsequent crucifixion. Then there would be a scene change. Curtain comes down…intermission. A lot of people don’t read the programs and so they get lost when it comes to opera in particular. If it’s a prophecy of seventy weeks and sixty nine until Messiah comes….what happens to the last week? The curtain is down and they change the set but what is going on while that happens. People go to the bathroom they get a drink have a conversation stretch some smoke….no one thinks that’s part of the play. It is part of the evening of the experience but not the show. What happens in our play called Revelation after the curtain comes down on the first act? The city is sacked raised to the ground, scene change, but it is not part of the play. In the Olivet discourse there are two questions asked and answered. One is concerning end of days and the other of the city and its end. Yeshua answered both but one is Shakespeare and the other the Nutcracker. Understanding the players, the motivations, the setting is key to any drama. Mystery Babylon as an example if seen as Rome changes everything if the alternative is Jerusalem…. I would contended based on the program given it must be Jerusalem and if it is Rome as so many insist then what do you do with the description later that said; in her was found the blood of prophets? 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. You pointed out that Yeshua said Jerusalem kills the prophets and He adds it is not possible that one could be killed outside of that city…. I say Bruce the first act took place in that city and so too will the second act. The ten kings I find interesting because while everybody agrees that the beast we are seeing has ten horns they ignore how we got there…. There were these kings call them the ignored kings/horns and three of them are ripped up by the root? What why? When? Where? No one seems to care they are the ignored kings. Then one rises to power it was this rise that caused three to fall, and then there were ten….. I am guessing you’re a history teacher? We are entering into the realm of maths but they are simple maths if you add one and that equals ten what did you start with (9) If you subtract three and that equals nine what do you start with (12) if the play and players are centered on Israel is 12 a significant number? And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. What are we looking at here? The woman is Jerusalem what is this sitting? I see her as raised up, resting on depending on. Further these kings are not only raising her up there is a definite sense that they are in a line of succession… , even he is the eighth, and is of the seven. Did the Caesars of Rome raise up Jerusalem? Incidentally there were already seven and they are currently all dead. When we consider Revelation we should begin by identifying each player, and we should do that, I’m sure you will agree through scripture, not conjecture, not traditions, not by current events. Had the church fathers done so in the beginning and recognized that without a stage you can’t have a play they might have said we don’t know when the end will come but we are sure we need a city of Jerusalem and a temple in that city before it can come. We need a man to take the place of Messiah that is the one we as a nation have been waiting for to be king….to give us the worldly things we want. To enter that temple, Gods house, and lay claim to it along with His city and people. We don’t know when that will happen but the program says this is what the play is about so we do know it is what will happen…..That these same people, Gods people of whom He says I am a Husband, will commit fornication. They will as Yeshua said when one comes in his own name accept him as their king their anointed of God. They will glorify him to the whole world and the world will become drunk on the wine of her fornication…. The play has already been written. The second act is about to begin. Raise curtain what will the set look like? Daniel seven gives us a look at the second act….but this is getting long.

[@garyfinch6971]

Patrick Edgington Very well said Patrick. These type of messages can seem very convincing when you first hear them. Just some digging into the Word of God, exposes many flaws in their theories.

[@impactbytruth9845]

@@garyfinch6971 like what

[@riverjao]

GREAT stuff here!!! Thank you Bruce.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you for the kind feedback!

[@mayeerahbrits7524]

I totaly agree

[@ericjones8970]

At 16:50 mark who Herod a and the 6 descendants of “who” is cut out. What 6 descendants and who did they descend from? Why is it cut out?

[@GoreBruce]

You can find a full discussion of Herod and his family as appears in the New Testament here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4KtkqptfbBpqck

[@jd-gw4gr]

i love it when bruce states "if u been sleeping up to this pt. 'wake-up!' "

[@GoreBruce]

That's how I try to silence the snoring in the room.

[@mac2brown]

+Bible4truth this guy seems solid.

[@earlbradshaw]

Thank you so much!!! This was very helpful.

[@kelliea5729]

Are others getting the 'skipping' over some dialogue? Only a couple spots, but wondering it it's just me???

[@johncarroll-to1zv]

Do you have a study guide or companion book to go along with the study?

[@GoreBruce]

There are many good resources out there to help in a study of Revelation. An excellent place to start is Ken Gentry's The Book of Revelation Made Easy (link below). Thanks for your interest! www.amazon.com/Book-Revelation-Made-Easy-Understand/dp/0982610599/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EBFUOOG4HKGV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Kb6FPGgEpu3ByDIoUabEatUR-JRS_YH6SLPKOPVBzNYfg7AnjX-rIupDJfefWUKylO7Rd_GX2_TLWGvGetVmnctAzeySK41alSt-sMILPx8amM0qNUyKM1zGbLemkWsyPEQYVxHSiUHtcpmSUWlWp-z_Plwj55FA-zs0Md4Fn0377eOou3aHXHBgWYdxkxYQJcp8qKUqkhC4vAwd0whXnWttqXy8D7avGiz_gWWh4IU.DhNDQJpL-RRa5m-ZetoiUHH0J_Qva0aIyCIEcTGsP58&dib_tag=se&keywords=ken+gentry+revelation+commentary&qid=1737230138&sprefix=ken+gentry%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-1

[@frankjackson9821]

So totally well done!!

[@rogerkreil3314]

This view makes more sense than the secret rapture and the seven year tribulation.

[@BeingRefined]

I find where Nero was sentenced to death but they say he committed self inflicted death can you please provide the link or the source you are using. Thank you so much

[@GoreBruce]

Nero committed suicide, but he was forced to do so by Roman executioners, who would have taken his life if he refused. Seutonius gives us that information in his Twelve Caesars, and any standard history of the first century Roman empire would mention it.

[@BeingRefined]

@GoreBruce oh ok!!! Thank you so very very much I am just really learning this and finally after 2 years embracing it as the truth, I'm a slow learner lol

[@BeingRefined]

@GoreBruce also have you written a book about all of this?

[@GoreBruce]

@@BeingRefined There are already many excellent resources available, and any book that I might write would be redundant. If you are interested in a short bibliography of such resources, please email me at [e-mail].

[@BeingRefined]

@@GoreBruce thank you I emailed you and appreciate it greatly

[@marlondelrosario635]

thank you....very helpful.

[@DavidKing-qd3sp]

Bruce, I have a question for you. In Daniel 9. 24 it says - to seal up the vision and prohecy, what does that mean.

[@Day12My]

Because the fulfillment of prophecy was a long way off. Which is why Revelation 22:10 is in contrast to it because the fulfillment of prophecy was a close.

[@distantgalaxymusic1447]

I think Daniel is clear that the culmination of the Messiah coming. That prophecy and vision would end and that a NEW holy place would be ordained, which is Christ. The Temple of his body. The old system would stop forever and be replaced. As a kid I was always taught that the apostolic miracles ended under Nero. Pretty sure that’s settled church dogma for millennia. If that’s the case, then John must write the book before the prophecy and visions ended or Daniel 9:24 becomes a stumbling block.

[@DavidKing-qd3sp]

@@distantgalaxymusic1447 .........you have errors in your understanding of scripture

[@PlatoMidwest]

Mr. Gore: I discovered your teachings just a few weeks ago via KZbin. As I fellow JD-degree (non-practicing) I simply luv your lessons/lectures -- thank you for sharing your God-given gifts !! Is there any way to obtain the content of your slides in this video lecture series (as well as your other lectures)?

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the kind feedback. It's great to hear from another 'recovering' lawyer! PowerPoints are available by going to my site, www.brucegore.com, and clicking the button at the bottom of the home page that says, 'A New Look.' Wait two or three seconds, and the alternative site will appear. Click 'Products' and you'll find access to the files. Thanks again!

[@PlatoMidwest]

@@GoreBruce Mr. Gore, Is your book "Historical and Chronological Context of the Bible" available in a digital format?

[@GoreBruce]

@@PlatoMidwest On that question, please contact me at: [e-mail]. Thanks!

[@bluecollarmoneymatters8246]

About 16:30 or so Mr. Gore explains that the seven heads represent the Herods. (The video kind of jumps here like part of it skipped.) It seems as if He is saying that it was Herod the Great PLUS the six Herods that came after him. However, there were only six Herods in total. How can six represent seven?

[@GoreBruce]

Well, I'm just noting the interesting and possibly significant correlation of the number and color. As to the number of Herods, you are probably not noticing that there are two 'Herod Philip' characters. One was a tetrarch. The other lived in Rome. It was the Roman Philip who lost his wife to Herod Antipas.

[@RF-nx9pm]

I am trying to learn more about history in its relation to the Bible and Christianity. So my question is : If Antipas was martyred in Pergamum in 92, how can the book of Revelation be written in 65? (Rev 2:13) I am flustered, can you please help me reconcile my thoughts. Update: not sure if my response was seen. Where can Ii look to get find the correct information about Antipas?

[@GoreBruce]

What is your source for Antipas dying in Pergamum in 92?

[@RF-nx9pm]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipas_of_Pergamum, www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/04/saint-antipas-martyr-of-apocalypse.html Wikipedia is were lots of info (be it right or wrong) is usually the first site to check. I looked around a lot, saw a few more sites in searching for the answer and didn't see many with a date, none really say an earlier one. I just started (less then week in) looking into the history of the Bible. So I seek out the wisdom of one dedicated to the topic. (meaning you:) My question was only for discerning the truth. Currently, I am of the belief Revalation is part history's past but partly the future, so until further study I am open to keeping an open mind.

[@GoreBruce]

As far as I can determine there is no documented record of a death of a Martyr in Pergamum in 95. This is simply an assumption made by those who understand Irenaeus to teach that Revelation was written in the late first century, a theory that has been challenged by a number of competent scholars.

[@joyceruserious7920]

Interesting, I appreciate all this info here. Thank you very much.

[@RF-nx9pm]

Thanks for all the help. There are so many avenues to look into. Your videos are really great and informative. Thank you!

[@SoulSeeker770]

Christians need a forum to discuss and learn from each other.

[@DavidKing-qd3sp]

Bruce is wrong in his views of scripture

[@keitharchie8120]

Very dangerous hermeneutic being put forth here; that the events of AD70 somehow structure and define biblical terms and principles. The Jewish temple and its destruction in AD70 in no way gave meaning to passages such as 1 Pet. 2:5 or Eph. 2:21,22. Christ did.

[@2010securityful]

thank you for your presentation. I found this helpful. PraiseJesus.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! and Amen to that!

[@DonCornelius366]

you better learn to READ for youself, and stop following unscholarly, unqualified men on social media exercising their freedom of speech

[@histguy101]

@@DonCornelius366 Bruce Gore is a Professor of religion at Whitworth University where he has been teaching for over 30 years. This is a taped lecture. You watched the video, yes?

[@solitarypawn5076]

@@DonCornelius366 And you are a scholarly and qualified theologian that can teach us all?

[@DonCornelius366]

@@histguy101 Schools of religion in Universites are some of the WORST PLACES to "learn" from.

[@gy5240]

This is great. Thankyou for sharing your hard work!

[@warrenlaidlaw6414]

U are a good teacher

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@svanteekholm7334]

The historical record about Tiberius' intellgence reports and his proposition to the senate blew my mind.

[@TheModernHermeticist]

solid

[@JDWilliamsPD]

Bruce, I am one of those who believe Revelation was written before 70 AD, but the best evidence for those who believe it was written after 70 AD is found in Revelation 2:13. It speaks of a person named Antipas who history says was martyred after 70 AD. Bruce do you, or does anyone reading this have information that counters that? Thanks

[@truewitness6840]

JD Williams...I was always under the impression that John wrote Revelation (or died, cant remember) in 95AD. For more info, see Bruce Gore's reply to 'Really Fun' above.

[@benalubenalu990]

I don't know if this has been asked but @ 17:21 Dr Gore says Jesus was born in 4 B.C. - there must be some explanation of how this is possible because @ 1 AD Jesus would be 5 yrs old.

[@GoreBruce]

The original calendar was worked out by a 2nd century astronomer named Ptolemy. He appears to have miscalculated the year of Jesus' birth by 2 to 4 years or so, so it is commonly accepted that Jesus was born just a few years before the year zero.

[@benbenalu9666]

@@GoreBruce .. thank you Dr. Gore

[@DavidKing-qd3sp]

King Herod died 4 BC, so Christ had to be born by at least that year, so 4 BC is what I accept. So if he was born 4 Bc in 27 Ad he was 30 which luke says in 3. 23 at his baptism, died 31 , so 70 weeks of Daniel 9 end in 34 AD

[@ginomarchetti5153]

Why was the video cut/edited?...Herod being the sixth decendant of whom?...

[@kingoziel]

Excellent. Love the music at the end :-)

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@kingoziel]

Bruce Gore It's amazing that you're responding to comments. I imagine you're a busy guy. A) Have enjoyed your videos and you've rapidly become one of my fav teachers. Can I recommend the works of Chuck Missler? He's another top shelf bible scholar with perspectives that might enrich yours. Im thinking a specifically in the studies of the 7 churches (Rev). You seem to skip the prophetic fulfillment of them, though you fully grasp the other 3 applications (historical, congregational, and personal).

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm quite familiar with Chuck Missler.

[@-kepha8828]

I would like to point out one little piece of historical data which will support your argument for an early date of the book of Revelation, and it has to do with Domitian. Everyone quotes Ireneaus and gives the book a 90’s date, because obviously that is when Domitian reigned. However (and this is a BIG however), watch this: Domitian’s father was Vespasian. Vespasian is the one who originally laid siege to Jerusalem as general under Nero in A.D. 66. In December of 69 Vespasian was elected Emperor. His eldest son Titus took charge of the Jerusalem seige, while his younger son Domitian resided in Rome. But here is the important point: it took him nearly six months to make his way from Jerusalem and Egypt (where he was securing foodstuff for his soldiers) to Rome. During this half year space, Domitian ruled in the stead of his father! During this six months, Domitian was brutal, exiling many people, establishing harsh persecutions, and generally causing chaos. When his father arrived, he reversed many of Domitian’s orders and restored many exiles to freedom. AND SO - Iranaeus tells us John wrote during the reign of Domitian…and he is correct - during the short 6 months reign of Domitian in A.D. 69/70. After Vespasian’s death, his eldest son Titus ruled, and after his death Domitian came to the throne in his own full right - in 96. But he was there, representing his father - in 69! This changes everything, yes? Details can be found in the Annals of Tacitus. A less trustworthy verification can be found in the wikipedia articles on Vespasian and Domitian.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@SteffanRhoads]

Really appreciate your teaching. I’ve been frustrated with learning and understanding scripture (Revelation is hard) but so much seems like we are the problem. I’ve been learning more about Christianity at the time of our founding. The 1700’s seem so positive but the 1800’s appear so corrupt. (I saw a vid by you last night when I couldn’t sleep but it was on the 1800’s so didn’t help!) I’ll have to see if you have made your presentation available so I can do a better job of capturing you teaching.

[@jasonvoorhees5161]

What happened with the video at 16:50?

[@jasonvoorhees5161]

Also, at 22:07.

[@jasonvoorhees5161]

23:31...

[@jasonvoorhees5161]

29:36...

[@GoreBruce]

These are edits to remove interruptions to the class that were not useful to the final product. Thanks for your interest!

[@jasonvoorhees5161]

Thank you. Didn't want to miss any pertinent information. Great videos!

[@happydays310]

Hello Bruce, what is your opinion about John the Divine's death as the Church say he died 100AD. Do you think he died earlier because Mary is recorded dying 41AD. I realised that if Revelation was correct then he would have been raptured along with the Jewish Christians or died before the start of the War of the Jews. Appreciate your thoughts on this.

[@GoreBruce]

There is reasonable support for the theory that John lived in Ephesus well into the late first century and cared for Mary during those years. It is likely they both died of natural causes, but Catholics affirm the 'assumption' of Mary on dogmatic grounds.

[@happydays310]

@@GoreBruce Thanks for your thoughts on this.

[@josiahmoss2269]

Could revelations be johns olivet discourse

[@GoreBruce]

Many have suggested that Revelation is John's more extended Olivet Discourse, covering much of the same ground but in much greater detail!

[@karencarter8292]

Mr. Gore - what about the historian, Josephus ? He was present in Jerusalem at the beginning of the destruction.

[@GoreBruce]

Josephus provides considerable information about the last years of Jerusalem, and its destruction in the year, 70 A.D..

[@christoph1596]

Bruce Gore You rock! Do you have any commentary’s or books on prophecy/eschatology you would recommend?

[@GoreBruce]

I have many I would recommend, but if you are looking for a good general introduction, I highly encourage you to take a look at Chilton's Paradise Restored: www.amazon.com/Paradise-Restored-Biblical-Theology-Dominion/dp/0930462521/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535639785&sr=8-1&keywords=paradise+restored+david+chilton Thanks!

[@sinebass808]

I hope you continue to post the rest of this series. The Apocalypse is one of my favorites. I should be interesting to see where we agree and disagree on points. So far, we mostly agree. I do not, however, agree with the notion that, because the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE is the main subject, that the book was necessarily written prior to the event. It could have be composed ex-eventu. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@GoreBruce]

sinebass808 Thanks for your interest!

[@chessman483]

This question has puzzled me for ages. If Nero was the sixth and Galba was the seventh and Last. Where does Ottho and Vitellius fit in, aren’t they the 8th and 9th. The Flavian dynasty doesn’t start until Vespasian comes in. So in Revelation it says 5 have been , one is (Nero) and one is to come!!! But there was 3 to come Galba, Ottho and Vitellius. Can someone actually explain this properly. I know my history pretty well, so please don’t spin junk to me. Appreciate an informed answer.

[@GoreBruce]

It is a fair question. You may know that I am doing a verse by verse study of Revelation as part of this series. We are currently finishing up chapter 9. The text you refer to is in chapter 17. I am aware of the problem you reference, and will treat the matter in detail when we reach that chapter. If I gave a brief response here, it would certainly strike you as inadequate, and a comprehensive answer would require more space than is practical in this context. I hope you will be patient.

[@christianfellowship]

100% right brother

[@anthonybardsley4985]

I believe it was written before 70 ad.

[@harveywabbit9541]

The Temple of Solomon (annual sun) is the human body. Temple is "built" in seven years (seven months) beginning with April/Taurus. It is alway "destroyed" in 70 A.D (7). upon completion (end of summer of seven months) every year. Biblical Herod is not a person but the "hero of the path" = the apparent movement of the sun through the 12 signs of the Mazzaroth.

[@happydays310]

Hello Bruce thank you for your presentation. Who is the false prophet of Revelation. Be grateful for your answer on this.

[@GoreBruce]

I provide my view of the matter in the following presentation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHabaWmXaJtrh80

[@happydays310]

@@GoreBruce Thank you so much God bless you.

[@jamesmoore2143]

Shepherd's chapel explains revelations better than anyone

[@altafnaseem2204]

blessings.

[@darmok-hm6jx]

I'm curious about how he was able to smuggle this book out of prison and what the penalty was if one would be caught doing so. Francis Bacon once said, “Read not to believe and take for granted, nor to contradict and confute, but to weigh and consider.” I have been a Prederist for thirty plus years and I cannot see this book as prophetic (I mean it does not speak of the future). The Revelation of Jesus Christ are the first five words that tell the whole story. To my understanding, it reveals his nature and his work on earth and his permanent reign in the dimension we call Heaven. Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. The same yesterday, today, and forever. The Holy Spirit can only live in an environment of Empathy and Compassion, and Mercy; what we know as Love. We have extra help to stay on his path. Moses fed the tribes the flesh and blood of the villages that they destroyed along the way, including those in Egypt (Exo 12:35; 36). They gave everything they had to spare their lives, that's the real reason they were chased by the Pharaoh. They seemed to lack Empathy and Compassion even for each other. They were the children of blood and war and worshiped might and power. Gen 49:5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations. Gen 49:6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall. Gen 49:7 Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel. Exo 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. "The lessons from the history are, so long as pride, ambition, and revenge are harboured, men will ever scheme afresh to their own hurt." - Faussat The blood thirsty god of Moses was a man of war and Yeshua guided them into the land of Canaan; But our God is a man of Peace, Yeshua, who guides us to his abode. The law of reciprocity was in full effect in choosing his name (Matt 1:21), that's for certain. From the taker of life to the giver of life. Yeshua is the Hebrew name for the Greek Iesus, and its English spelling is "Joshua." The translators seem to love making the simple complicated. When my perspective changed, the meaning became clear. No mystery to me anymore, by his blood we are redeemed. I like his ways and i'm thankful that I can spend eternity in Rapture now that the old man died and as a new man, Resurrected from the dead (Eph 2:1).

[@-kepha8828]

Not only does Jerusalem sit on 7 hills, which is almost NEVER even brought up, but scripture itself says that mystery babylon is JERUSALEM! that is why it was JERUSALEM who was punished and received the curses in the book of Revelation, which John wrote BEFORE 70AD, as to what was about to happen to the harlot Jerusalem. Yes Rome was a type of harlot, yes the catholic church is a type, but scripture is speaking of Jerusalem. It says it point blank, yet many wont accept it and then return to labeling this upon Rome. Rome was the 4th beast of Daniel. But the iron mixed with clay, was Rome mixing with Israel, in the holy land of Jerusalem.

[@graysonbr]

Here is the issue Bruce does not ever weigh the possibility that he could be wrong about the timing of Revelation and the framing of eschatology. A good attorney and detective weighs all views examine the pros and cons of each view. Let the last two verses of Revelation govern their teaching on Revelations. There is a very heavy punishment on those who ADD to the words of Revelation.

[@bell5309]

@@graysonbr pretty sure interpretation isn’t adding words.

[@graysonbr]

@@bell5309 true, unless one teaches the position as such

[@JesusIsSavior87]

The state of Israel already has the mark of the beast over it as well...the star of David (which really isn't the star of David) but of Saturn has 666 in it.

[@simthiam3712]

The Book of Revelation will make sense to u once u look at it through the len of 70AD, through the perspective of Preterism

[@Xristophero]

Awesome teaching, but I think I disagree with the final implication of Jesus being violent/wrathful in the traditional sense. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and keep listening, but I think that John intentionally used very violent imagery against the almost comedic backdrop of a gentle lamb to put to shame the violence that is typical of human empire. To steal from Daniel, the other nations of history instigated beastlike terror with the use of violence and oppression. The just, humane Son of Man ("human being," in contrast to the beasts) ushers in a just and worshiping society based on the sword of TRUTH (which divides soul from spirit, according to Hebrews and Luke). He conquers nations without the use of violence. The "lion" of Judah who is worthy to open the scroll of Life is, in fact, the lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. I think what John is doing in Revelation 19 - in his description of the conquering king - is offering a satirical image of Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a baby colt/donkey. Whereas the world's rulers subdue their enemies by riding into their lands upon grand stallions, brandishing swords and accompanied by armies, Jesus rode into the land of His "enemies" - the harlot city, on a donkey, with the sword of His mouth - God's truth. Because He has not resorted to the world's "way," He has indeed conquered the nations, and continues to exert authority over the world.

[@GoreBruce]

Christopher Lee Interesting perspective. Thank you!

[@davidwoods6015]

This was a very good observation, well thought out. However, the seven woes oracles in Mt. 23. Very condemning speaking as a lamb or as the Lion from the tribe of Judah. This was their death sentence and the nation as well. See the "wrath of the lamb" Rev.6:16.

[@davidwoods6015]

These are not my words, Bruce Gore's.

[@donhaddix3770]

Early Christian writers are almost in agreement that the book of Revelation was written during the reign of Domitian which ended in A.D. 96

[@UKS12345]

Revelation is all symbolic and is about the time of the end. Wonderful book about destruction of Christendom false religion . Favourite scripture is “ and death will be no more neither crying nor morning anymore”.

[@diegovalleperez3360]

Still don’t understand. So that means that the book of Revelations has been mostly fulfill. Was left? 1.Second coming of Jesus Christ 2. Final Judgement 3. Armageddon 4. Being in heaven with God for the eternity

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you for your thoughtful questions. For my treatment of these and related matters, please review lectures 11,12,13 of this series, available at the KZbin Playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIXUqXaKqpeCoK8

[@diegovalleperez3360]

Thank you!

[@blostin]

Well done!

[@Mrbillcollierjr]

I assume Revelation is written before AD 70

[@GoreBruce]

@@Mrbillcollierjr That is my conviction. I treat the question of when Revelation was written more thoroughly later in this series.

[@bornagainministries3656]

As much as dispensational view holders deny and twist text I'm starting to think they are under a delusion more then error.. #datposttrib

[@joeiiiful]

An outstanding book on the Dispensationalism heresy is: "Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth" by Dr. John Gertsner. It is available on Amazon. Make sure you get the second addition.

[@davidwoods6015]

@@James-nq8eh Not to get technical, the historical grammatical concept is a jewell not only for bible study but for any literary examination

[@cross-eyedmary6619]

@@davidwoods6015 Thus...the perspicuity of Scripture.

[@troyfruge3309]

Bruce. I wish to thank you for this series of lectures, and the great care you no doubt put into making them. It really shows that for you, it was a labor of love. I am looking forward to getting your book - "Historical and Chronological Context of the Bible". I am somewhat concerned however. It is obvious that your approach to eschatology is PRETERIST. No crime in that. I find much in at least "Partial-Preterism" which has strong argument; but not so much with FULL-PRETERISM; that is, suggesting the entirety of the prophecies in synoptic Olivet Discourses ( Matt.24; Mk.13; Lk.21) along with the book of Revelation being PAST-TENSE, and accomplished by AD 70. To be clear: I am NOT suggesting your are guilty of the same errors as "Hyper-Preterist" are; i.e.- wherein they say the resurrection of the dead already occurred. No, I don't think you would agree with that. Yet one thing you do seem to avoid is addressing the issue of Irenaeus' not-so "ambiguous" statement that the Apostle John penned Revelation in the latter part of Emperor Domitian's reign. Which, if true would certainly late date it's publication to some time after AD 95-96. Which, again, if true makes your preterist interpretation untenable. You promised to address the Irenaeus citation at mark 6:30 in your next session ("Letters to the Seven Churches"); but having watched it as well as the following one thoroughly, I was disappointed to find you did NOT. It does SEEM as though you may have deliberately skipped over him, since you did indeed list a number of other Early Church Fathers. None of them however could offer any clear rebuttal to your position, like Irenaeus does. Please address this when you have time.

[@robertcain3426]

No reply. The only sound to be heard are the crickets!

[@oracleoftroy]

Several people have asked that question and Gore has responded. I haven't watched them yet, but his reply says he deals with the dating of Revelation in videos #11, 12, and 13 of this series.

[@troyfruge3309]

@@oracleoftroy Yes, I HAVE watched them, and NO he doesn't address this issue, which for many, is a silence which speaks louder than words. He has other perplexing issues to deal with however, and none of them are dealt with either. For example there is POLYCARP. He was the FIRST Bishop ("Angel") of the Church in Smyrna. A very few historians debate that. The problem for Peterist who so desperately want (NEED) to date John's writing of the BoR prior to Jerusalem's fall in AD 70 is... Polycarp was only a new-born infant when that calamitous event occurred! And by the way... even more damning to the Preterist early dating schema is the fact that there was NO Church at Smyrna yet either! All of this is solidly established historical FACT! How then could Christ be addressing him as an active Bishop ("Angel") over the Church in Smyrna? I have heard only a few attempts by Preterist to explain this, none of which hold water. The worst was one which seems to epitomize much of the Preterist hermeneutic:i.e.- SPIRITUALIZING of the texts, and events so as to fit their narrative. One Preterist "apologist" who will remain unnamed (as I have no interest in making any ad hominem attacks here)...suggested that Christ had John record his letter to Polycarp and the Smyrna Church in ANTICIPATION of that yet future day in which they would indeed exist!🙄 You know, were it not such a serious matter, I might laugh at that. But it really is no laughing matter, is it? When backed into a corner by questions which appeal to FACT and not just clever rhetoric and wishful thinking: They resort to fantasy using the most reprehensible hermeneutical gimmickry ever seen. 😕 Personally, when I witness this occurring I lose all respect for that individual. I do encourage Bruce Gore to see this and reply. 😇

[@oracleoftroy]

@@troyfruge3309 In that case, it might be best to post a new top level reply, perhaps in the videos themselves to explain why his case is lacking. He seems active in the comments, but I don't know if he would see it buried here.

[@TADESDR3]

Thanks its detail

[@pplatymuth8325]

thanks

[@coperfield9188]

amazing

[@zhihanlim3500]

Great video. Only one small detail that wasn't correct-Nero wasn't executed in AD68, he committed suicide

[@GoreBruce]

Yes thank you. His suicide was forced upon him to avoid execution.

[@mayeerahbrits7524]

The matter of suicides is small. It is becase of Neros accusations that the slaughter of christians began... That is more if a toppic to consider...

[@titianmom]

Most scholars date Rev around 95 AD under Domitian. From what I have learned only a small number say it was written before the fall of Jerusalem. Just sayin'.... I believe one of the 7 churches didn't exist before 70 AD. Nicolatians aren't mentioned in any of Paul's letters, either, and he died around 67 AD. Finally, Ireneaus, who was a disciple of Polycharp who was discipled by John the Revelator said it was written during the time of Domitian. I am guessing Irenaeus's knowledge was passed down from the author, which matters. All that said, it is nice to hear another perspective, and your views are certainly worth investigating.

[@brucegore4373]

If you are interested in my more detailed treatment of this question, you will find it in lectures #11 and #12 of this series. Thanks for your interest.

[@titianmom]

@@brucegore4373 Thanks! I would also like to see sources for your assertions. For example, Nero's persecution of Christians outside of Rome. I understand that his move against Christians was limited to Rome. Best wishes!

[@rbwatkins13]

What happened to the peace on earth part

[@GoreBruce]

The same thing that happened to the 'I didn't come to bring peace but a sword' part.

[@Chippy_The_Chipmunk]

Off topic but can you please point me in the right direction as to why 70 "weeks" in Daniel 9 = 490 "years" when that is not what the text says or implies? Where else in the bible are weeks multiplied by seven and then changed to years? I'll wait.

[@GoreBruce]

The Hebrew word for 'week' is 'seven.' The text reads 'seventy sevens.' The most natural sense is that the 'sevens' refer to years, rather than days, weeks, months, or other possibilities.

[@Chippy_The_Chipmunk]

@@GoreBruce 70 sevens is 70 individual seven day periods. In the OT, the Hebrew word for week is "shabua" and means seven. In the NT, the Hebrew word for week is "sabbaton" or "sabbata," meaning "from Sabbath to Sabbath". I think the 70 weeks is a fulfillment of 70 literal weeks (490 days) that occurred during the time when Herod began and completed the rebuilding of the temple in 64 AD. My spirit animal says the 70 weeks happened from the transfiguration to the resurrection.

[@donhaddix3770]

I posted 2 times here and both are gone, both pre-trib. search church fathers pretrib teachings.

[@GoreBruce]

I have not deleted any of your posts. Please provide specific citations with reference to your comment.

[@donhaddix3770]

@@GoreBruce about Ephraim and other ancient writing s on the trib.

[@bw4025]

On one level, I believe that out of historical context, the words stand, and they are not good for the world. This might be similar to the use of 'Jacob I loved, Esau I hated': despite the 'explanation' the words remain and they are terribly divisive. I wonder if you might comment.

[@jdgilbert74]

B Freetothink character

[@jpaul1599]

B Freetothink - please read Genesis 29: 30 -31 > And he (Jacob) went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years. And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, HE opened her womb: but Rachel was barren. In the eyes of God anything less than complete love is akin to hate - even preference for one over the other. It's God's preference for Jacob over Esau that is being reflected - it's not that God hates Esau ..

[@P.H.888]

Love & hate is a Hebrew idiom just meaning preferring So God Chose Jacob, His Sovereignty! The main theme in The Tanack Hebrew Scriptures is The Line Of The Messiah. From The Promise in Eden to Adam and Eve until The Woman Mary conceives! By The Holy Spirit The Eternal Word Of God in her virgin womb.

[@normanmcdermid1951]

I am investigating the possibility that Jesus died in 37AD because of the fact that Pontius Pilate, summoned to Rome by Tiberius, left Jerusalem in 37 AD. Tiberius also died in 37 AD. If we calculate Daniels timeline we have 483 - 445 = 38.What I would like to know is, did Pontius Pilate leave immediately after Jesus' death?

[@DavidKing-qd3sp]

Nero, as I have read, committed suicide, the army wanted to kill him, but he cut his own throat after his servant refused to kill him...they were going to flog him to death.

[@GoreBruce]

Tacitus reports that Nero was faced with the choice of killing himself, or being executed by the Roman soldiers who found him hiding in Athens.

[@hippopook8437]

Read Seutonius's account. Nero kills himself after trying to find someone, anyone to do the job for him. He died the most miserable lonesome death in recorded ancient history. Daniel 11:45 I've taugh this for a few decades as well as Daniel 9-12 and now am about to start Isaiah at church. I teach it all as the transition from Judaism to Christianity in the 1st century, ending with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. Your Assyrian stuff is quite useful. Would love to chat sometime.