1 US Destroyer vs The Japanese Fleet - The Last Stand of USS Edsall

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[@anonymouscommenter7578]

The fact that more people don’t know about or understand the sheer magnitude of Imperial Japan’s war crimes is appalling. Thank you for including the details of the Edsall’s “survivors’s” fates.

[@FinnishJager]

@Leeski-337 Westerners maybe. China and Korea don't forget

[@andrewdean7537]

They killed so many POW. Disgusting treatment and as a culture it doesn't look great.

[@noearmendariz4234]

The attitude of killing POWs is the same attitude that got them nuked.

[@MongooseJakeNerf]

@Leeski-337 Those two bombs dropped saved more lives than most could ever realize. Don't try to pass them off in the same sentence as the horrific crimes the Japanese committed thousands of times during their "reign" on occupied territories.

[@alanaldpal950]

@Leeski-337 No they overlook it (at least in the USA) to a piss poor education system that has piss poor priorities.

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A propeller plane was passing over my neighborhood when the strike on the oil tanker began in the video. So immersive!

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[@tortron]

There's a big collection of ww2 aircraft at an airfield near my house, every weekend is low passes lol. Although I really raise my eyebrow when I hear about an enemy aircraft sneaking up on someone, they are not stealthy

[@quackers8926]

@@tortronyeah but just think about how loud those aircraft are and then imagine yourself inside the aircraft, you aren’t gonna hear another plane flying behind you lol

[@chiapets2594]

Facepalm

[@atack1212]

nothing in that into hit me harder than "these amazing 5 years" and then, "since 2019"

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

I made a thousand yard stare at my phone while in the break room at work after hearing that

[@sojourner.]

@@Bipolar.Baddie Real

[@battlefield_hackers_exposed]

Indeed

[@thesnackbandit]

Meaning?

[@UGNAvalon]

@thesnackbandit Meaning: “Dang… it’s been so long already?” &/or “Oh wow… I feel old.”

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KZbin demonetization: “This video isn’t suitable for sponsors” Also KZbin: *runs their own ads on the demonetized video and pockets all of your rightful revenue*

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YT sounds like greedy badtards

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@@gimmethegepgunexactly. KZbin are thieves.

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*morally required

[@TennKnucklehead]

They just found the Edsall on the bottom of the sea. Thanks for your service sailor’s.

[@nicksmth33]

If you look up the image of Edsall sinking you can see 3 shells around her. 1000+ shells hitting all around you and seeing that picture just terrifies me

[@megladon6]

The plumes from the water is like 3x taller than the ship itself. Thanks for letting me know the image exists.

[@Commissioner62]

It also catches a hull hit by(what I assume to be)an 8" shell, and the burst of a fuzed, 5" shell above her.

[@joshuacheung6518]

I see 4 plumes...

[@Taima]

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[@newill2856]

"A training aid of how *N O T* to attack a destroyer". I Chuckled.

[@ChaosWolf3]

It always impresses me just how often the IJN misidentified US ships as being bigger or more dangerous than they really were. There’s also something to be said for just how hard the US Navy sailors fought against impossible odds, from this story to many other heroics like that of Taffy 3. When Destroyers take on entire fleets as if they were an even fight, it just goes to show how determined US troops were. Love hearing about these stories. May we never forget them or the heroes that made them possible, on both sides of the conflict.

[@TinKnight]

Throughout nearly the entire war, the Japanese were almost exclusively dependant on visual sightings, and ship size is hard to estimate using the optics of the time. So they'd use distinguishing features like the number of boiler stacks & the tail slope. Clemsons had 4 boilers, which is how all Japanese light cruisers were set up, as well as the USS Marblehead/Omaha-class US light cruisers, & they had a sloping tail, which is a pretty common feature aboard cruisers but not destroyers. Pretty easy misidentification in fading light.

[@yoseipilot]

You could imagine, if the Japanese use better optics and radars, they would use the right HE shells instead of AP shells, then the battle would be much shorter.

[@SnakeSalmon8izback]

Never corner your enemy

[@manuelacosta9463]

They also exaggerated the damage they inflicted, I.E they claimed to have sunk the carrier USS Enterprise multiple times only for her to stymie them time and again. They'd sink or damage 1-2 US destroyers then believe/claimed they sunk a fleet of battleships, often more than the US navy even had.

[@Chilly_Billy]

​@@manuelacosta9463 It was wishful propaganda.

[@TheOperationsRoom]

Also keep an eye out for the Easter Egg which was definitely on purpose and not a mistake I missed because you can't see your own work 😅

[@GillytheTechpriest]

The Hiryu steaming in the wrong direction on the map ?

[@Bellephrontos]

I wanted to ask, the images you use, are they by any chance 2D game sprites?

[@hillbilly4895]

@@GillytheTechpriest Yes, straight to Midway and straight to the bottom.

[@deCarabas27]

Was it the Japanese carrier travelling in reverse? 😂

[@Roytulin]

Is 'Netherlands New Guinea' right? At least half of it was Australian-administered, no?

[@Fast85FoxGT]

US destroyer captains in the Pacific theater were the King Theodens of WW2. "Its not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."

[@alexlyster3459]

Destroyer Captains are just built different. HMS Glowworm as well over in the Atlantic was the floating embodiment of "I ain't hear no bell"

[@Medjay_Aleks]

@@alexlyster3459and of course Piorun charging and harassing Bismarck

[@Marshal_Dunnik]

They talk about honour, then massacre the survivors of a ship's company that, by any measure, fought honourbaly and well to the very last.

[@MrChiefchili]

​@4umy The Wehrmacht and SS both did more than their fair share of massacring POWs, especially when they came from "undesirable" populations. At least 2 of the 3 million Soviet POWs taken during Barbarossa were dead within a year.

[@alexlyster3459]

Not that I approve, but Japanese honour was very much of the "die fighting" variety. Hence, if they weren't dead, they were dishonourable for not having died in battle or for not having gone down with their ship. So in their mind it wasn't a cognitive dissonance thing. Just a very different definition of honour.

[@tenacious_takakumi2680]

@4umyYou probably haven’t heard how German military/police force treated French civilians in occupied France during WW2 (not to mention how they treated Slavic civilians in general)

[@sgttater2313]

Except that one time ​@4umy

[@pyro1047]

​@@tenacious_takakumi2680And you probably haven't heard how the Soviet Soldiers raped so many women it rewrote the DNA of Eastern Europe during their push west. Or how American forces drew their weapons and were seconds from blowing the Soviets away when they stumbled across the horrors they were committing in the Berlin forest, their commander himself was in a state of shock radioing his superiors to find out just WTF he was supposed to do; he was told to stand his men down and immediately leave to regroup somewhere else and not mention what they saw. Those woods were where a large amount of innocent women and children had taken shelter from the overall battles and Skirmishes happening all around Berlin as the Soviets cleared it street by street, manhole by manhole. So you can imagine just how happy those thousands of murderers and rapists (It's well known FACT, Stalin conscripted inmates with the worst sentences and crimes committed to fill the manpower gap by offering them a full Pardon if they survived the war) felt when they discovered thousands of defenseless women and very young boys and girls alone in those woods... There's a reason why MANY allied commanders after the War spoke of their doubts they'd fought the right side in WWII, not overlooking the crimes and horrors committed by the Nazis; but wondering if becoming allies with and Aiding the Soviets wasn't the worse evil. One side became reformed after the war and is a modern first world country, the other has continued to commit mass warcrimes, massacres, and rapes ever since, including non-stop as recently as the last 2½yrs though more like last 9yrs. BTW most Soviet civilian casualties were CAUSED by 5he Soviets themselves. In the USSR it was considered a crime punishable by death to even attempt leaving the Soviet Union, and after the German Invasion civilians fleeing the Germans were considered "Deserters" for not "Defending the Motherland to their dying breath", and those thst stayed were still executed by the Soviets as "Collaborators" when the Soviets took back the territory they left to die. Then via operation Keelhaul they had the western allies round up all slavs they found in Western Europe and imprison them to be handed over to the Soviets as "Deserters and Collaborators" even though many had been in western Europe for an entire generation or more to escape the Civil War of 1917. The British soldiers had tears streaming down their eyes as they were ordered to beat old men off their transport trucks and unload the women and children with the Soviets hanging and massacring the men by firing squad and so immoral and ruthlessly evil that they couldn't even wait for the Brits to leave before they started gangraping 9yr old and similarly aged girls but eventually *ALL* rhe women on the dirt and grass earth right infront of the British soldiers without a care in the world. There's a reason German civilians fled west enmass, despite both side being an active front and warzone. They knew they at least had a chance with the western allies. I won't excuse the crimes of the Nazis, but unlike so many others, neither will I overlook the atrocities of the Soviets; done on an even masser scale and just as if not somehow even more evil. Keep in mind the Soviets didn't even sign the Universal declaration of Human Rights until 1 month before the collapse of the USSR, Trying to leave USSR? Killed. Missing too many days of work? Sent to a labor camp aka, Likely Killed. You're a married secretary and refuse to have an affair with your boss? Enjoy you're family being blacklisted and becoming poor beggars on the street until you're forced to whore yourself out anyways just to feed your kids, since your husbands been sent to work in Siberia. The Soviet Union truly was "An evil Empire" and the people that deny and refuse to accept this fact while trying to spout all of its "Virtues" are just as bad as the most fanatic Nazi sympathizers out there. It's funny how they always overlook that regardless of "everything apparently so great" people still risked life and limb to escape to the west, with thousands dying so the Soviets could stop them; hell there's even a Soviet Children's song Celebrating "A Heroic Border Guard and defender of the Motherland" who in actuality got most of his kills "Defending the USSR" by shooting men, women, and children in the back for daring to attempt escaping their "Glorious Soviet Republic".

[@israelballew4155]

The uss edsall was an old ww1 designed clempson class destroyer. They were pretty underpowered as far as guns were concerned and considered to be nearly obsolete at the beginning of ww2. They also had plenty of design weaknesses. The fact that this little outdated destroyer put up this much of a fight and made the japanese expend that much effort is impressive.

[@williamlydon2554]

What the Clemson-class lacked in power they made up for in crew. The old salts of the Asiatic Fleet were some of the most veteran sailors of the U.S Navy and on many occasions showed their mettle in the face of overwhelming odds.

[@WilliamLaurenson]

Whoa, the AA fire looks so much better now! It looks like it's actually shooting at planes above it now, cool! Well done, animators :DD

[@coced]

looking at an animated map and i felt danger

[@easy_eight2810]

The animations are so smooth and realistic, it's almost like watching it really happened from a bird's eye view. Can't wait for the Operation Ten-Go video

[@ArghastOfTheAlliance]

I only wish the fired shells would travel faster, looks better and more immersive imo.

[@easy_eight2810]

​@@ArghastOfTheAlliance I believe it's deliberately slowed down for all viewers to visualize where the rounds are

[@Xeonerable]

The US destroyers of the pacific fleet were something else... so many have charged into battle against impossible odds.

[@manuelacosta9463]

Indeed. It helped that the Japanese always overestimated and believed that US vessels were more dangerous than in reality.

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

At that point of the war, the Japanese were used to being ones doing suicidal charges, not the ones receiving them.

[@bkjeong4302]

@@manuelacosta9463 Not really true; in a lot of these cases (including Samar) the Japanese really were at a disadvantage, even if not always for the reasons they believed they were (at Samar the actual issue was that the IJN was already too late to succeed in their mission, we’re up against massive American air superiority and that the Americans had another major fleet in the area that was separate from the fleet they’d lured away). Not to mention all the cases where the Japanese UNDERestimated the enemy and paid the price.

[@UGNAvalon]

@Bipolar.Baddie At that point in the war (1942), Japanese superiority complex was so strong that banzai/kamikaze charges were unthinkable, and any that they received were written off as “flukes”.

[@ratibbaker8126]

@@manuelacosta9463they also believed they were much larger than they were and consistently fired over them.

[@DigitalApex]

One little destroyer made a mockery of one of the most powerful Japanese armadas, dodging over 1,300 shells for the better part of an hour. The picture of the Edsall sinking only shows 3 of those shells. If you do the math, that is roughly 22 near-miss shells hitting the water every minute. Captain Nix knew his ship was destined to sink, but he damn sure was going to make them work for it. The second world war brought out some of the most admirable displays of willpower and indomitable spirit in human history.

[@rackstraw]

Epilogue: USS Alden (DD-211), Fremantle, Western Australia, 14 March 1942. After a short change of command ceremony, the Lieutentant Commander reflected on the tumultuous past three months. He had reported to the old destroyer in Cavite the previous August, and had fought with the ship through the disatrous fighting in the Dutch East Indies, surviving the Battle of the Java Sea and escaping to Australia as Java fell to the Japanese. The Kido Butai sank many of the ships of the Asiatic Fleet during the headlong flight to Australia, some, including Edsall, simply disappeared. He knew that the Navy started the war woefully unprepared, and was belatedly and rapidly building new ships to take the fight to the Japanese. Lieutenant Commander Ernest Evans resolved that if he was given command of one of these new destroyers, he would never again run in the face of the enemy.

[@nymalous3428]

Those brave men deserved better. I hope this channel continues on, so that we can learn things like this that would otherwise be lost to history. Thank you for not letting them be forgotten.

[@Blupl1776]

The ending is so sad. Those brave men fighting against overwhelming odds and charging in like heros just to be mistreated and beheaded like that. They should be remembered for their courage.

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Scary to think a history channel is being censored, keep fighting the good fight.

[@Jairion]

What, you think Orwell wrote of the future instead of his present? When did you fall under the illusion that things got better sometime between 1945 and 2024?

[@swaggypenguen7687]

​@@Jairion jeez chill out

[@ironboy3245]

What the fuck, took 2 destroyers, 2 battleship, and a entire fucking flight of planes to sink 1 destroyer, goddamn

[@Xeonerable]

While it was on the way to aid survivors of the oil tanker full of wounded too. At least we know later on the kido butai gets spanked at midway.

[@PancakeBoi]

@@Xeonerablethe greatest spanking of all time🤤🤤🤤 followed by everything else afterwards

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

*Adjusts Nerd Glasses Ackwually, IJN Chikuma and IJN Tone were heavy cruisers, not destroyers. So it is an even greater embarrassment than you'd think.

[@chimchim2_]

Yea, the japense were never going to win, lol

[@theGreenChangeling]

2 cruisers*, 2 battleships, and an* entire fucking flight of planes

[@oldgoat142]

The photo towards the end of the video showing that 4-stack destroyer being virtually lifted out of the water by the shellfire, or sliding beneath the surface, depending on how you want to interpret it, was used on the cover of a book, (the name of which escapes me at the moment), about the ABDA force and the battles around the Java Sea in the early days of 1942. They fought against impossible odds, using a command structure which doomed them to fail. The very early days were dark indeed. Great video about a seldom covered topic. Massive respect to the crew.

[@williamlydon2554]

I believe you're referring to the excellent 'The Fleet The Gods Forgot' by W.G Winslow.

[@oldgoat142]

@@williamlydon2554 That's the one. Thank you. I appreciate you jarring my memory.

[@williamlydon2554]

@@oldgoat142 I have a small collection of books of the Java Sea campaign. I thought "don't I have that on my shelf"?

[@oldgoat142]

@@williamlydon2554 I have it as well, but it's packed away in a box along with a lot of other books. Really excellent work. That pic at the end of the video gives you a sense of what those tin can guys went through, with 14 inch and other shells screaming at them. Those guys had guts of steel! I really appreciate you going to the trouble of looking it up for me. Thank you.

[@red_d849]

i’ve legitimately never heard of this engagement, thanks to you guys at the ops room, i now know of it

[@xtreme1002003]

This is the most hilarious video I’ve seen so far from The Operations Room. One little destroyer managed to troll the entire Kido Butai, making them waste precious time, ammunition, and fuel trying to sink the USS Edsall.

[@Krieg-ch8ot]

She started a bit of a trend for USN destroyers Trolling the IJN. Looking at the tin cans of Taffy three and several other brave ships from the Guadalcanal campaign.

[@yoseipilot]

If only the Japanese realized that USS Edsall was a destroyer instead of Omaha-class cruiser. I wonder what would come out after this?

[@Jack-Tactical]

While I applaud the crew….the conclusion kills any comedic thoughts.

[@hillbilly4895]

@@Jack-Tactical "Thank you for that..." ~ Lt. Nix & Edsall crew

[@bkjeong4302]

@@Krieg-ch8otnone of them are anywhere near comparable to Edsall…. Taffy 3 especially because they were doing it with an overwhelming airpower advantage to back them up.

[@not_a_sp00k]

Thanks

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[@getgaijoobed6219]

0:16 your team has been doing a great job in my humble opinion, keep it up! I would ask, though, that you guys cover some of the large campaigns of the Eastern Front such as Minsk, Kiev, Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, Bagration, etc, as those were some of the most important battles which shaped WWII and 20th century history as a whole :)

[@BenHere-qs6wj]

Agreed 👍

[@kremepye3613]

The soldiers of imperial Japan were absolutely heinous with their war crimes

[@adambane1719]

Americas extensive war crimes are still not even acknowledged ! And they are FAR more heinous and numerable against CIVILIAN "targets" !!

[@kennethhanks6712]

Captain Nix was using the tactic of "Chasing Salvos" wherin after each enemy salvo landing the Edsall would steer where those shots landed, anticipating the enemy would correct their next shots to his past location, he would now be where their last shots landed and so be clear. The sinking of Edsall would allow the Whipple to rescue many od the Pecos survivors. An exellent book on the Edsall and Cpt. Nix is the "Blue Sea Of Blood".

[@davidburke709]

Kind of like the skipper of the Johnson off Samar.

[@wolftamer5463]

​@@davidburke709I think most of the screening ships at Samar used this tactic.

[@zachrywd]

Why I like this channel? It tastefully and tactfully recreates these moments in history. Other channels use goofy cartoons of historically gruesome battles and play them like comedy. Not saying you can't do that, but some do it to the same tone as this channel and it's just off-putting.

[@antonioperez2623]

Wow, what a heroic story of courage by the crew of USS Edsall. Thank you for telling their story.

[@sonofagun1037]

That sea plane tender Langley is THE Langley. The one that started it all. Americas first aircraft carrier. A real shame she was not salvageable and docked next to the midway to give you an idea of the advancements of aircraft carriers

[@rchassereau2]

“No, it's a short-range fighter” ... “A fighter that size couldn't get this deep into space on its own”

[@gregorymoore2877]

"Must have been part of a convoy or gotten lost."

[@williamhenry8914]

men of culture, we meet again.

[@wolftamer5463]

I get the reference, but ironically most Japanese planes were known for their excellent range necessary for operating in the Pacific.

[@ExcavationNation]

So let me get this correct man, correct me if im wrong; KZbin demonetizes a video Then KZbin runs ads on that video So basically monetizing that video but for KZbin itself?

[@richt-1]

KZbin takes 50% of any monetised video normally, so get 100% after demonetisation

[@ExcavationNation]

@@richt-1 what a shame.

[@Xeonerable]

Google: "sorry your video is too sensitive for ad monetization." Also Google: "we're still gonna run ads but keep the money" Fuck Google. Evil ass company.

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Yes, YT has an incentive to deny the cut to its 'partners'. It can do so arbitrarily and without any explanation, and it legal as the 'partners' agree to it when they create a channel.

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If the video is demonetized, it limits the kinds of ads that will run alongside the video, so KZbin doesn't make as much money off the video anyway. Advertisers are very skittish, and they don't want their ads running alongside anything that could be controversial. Unfortunately, there are definitely videos on KZbin that could understandably scare adverstisers, but KZbin doesn't seem to have the capacity or motivation to create an algorithm that can distinguish between trash videos like those and the extremely professional and educational videos made by channels like The Operations Room.

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These are some of the best war history videos. Documentary quality and informative. Thank you for all the hard work

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I love Christmas Island. So much history and every time I go there, I learn even more about it's immense history! Thanks for mentioning it! It doesn't get the recognition it deserves!

[@glennac]

Regarding the demonetization of your second channel, YT reps can’t tell you what words were struck - because even THEY don’t know. Call centers are notoriously kept in the dark about these kind of details lest they reveal too much to those on the other side of the phone. Additionally, YT’s algorithm is probably so reliant on AI now that even the engineers probably couldn’t tell you what triggered the strike even if it WAS a mistake. YT is really beginning to sicken me. But I still want to support my favorite channels. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Using AI isn't necessarily a bad thing, it means YT hall monitors now have to go out and get real jobs.

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YT: You broke the rules. OR: What did I do wrong? YT: I'm not going to tell you. Just make sure not to do it again. That's KZbin logic for you.

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Imagine police pulling you over on an unmarked road and giving you a speeding ticket. But refusing to tell you what the limit was because if they did, you and other drivers might start going slower just to get out of future tickets. Oh, and they occasionally change the secret limit. KZbin creation rules.

[@marvinm8343]

Another small ship that drove the IJN nuts during the Dutch East Indies campaign was the corvette, HMAS Yarra. She took on 3 heavy cruisers and 2 destroyers in her last stand. Of lesser note was Edsall's sister ship, Pillsbury, taking on two heavy cruisers before being sunk.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

this channel is one of the few good reasons to still be using yt

[@Atlas531]

That is some messed up logic. OR should move to a different platform and take viewers from YT.

[@mpeterll]

Without knowing the exact breakdown of the various shots fired, it's impossible to calculate accurately, but it seems like the combined weight of the various projectiles fired probably exceed the displacement of the destroyer.

[@TinKnight]

Not quite. The Edsall was 1190 tons fully loaded. The 14" APC shells used on those battleships in WW2 (heavier than their Common HE shells) weighed 1485lbs. 1335 of those would have a total weight of 991 tons...so, even if all of the fire was the heaviest shells from the heaviest guns, it wouldn't have equaled the DD's weight...but still eerily close. Imagine if the Edsall had continued evading rather than turning towards the Japanese, or had had the 3" DP guns (for AA use) implemented in the rest of the Clemsons that weren't in the Philippines.

[@mpeterll]

@@TinKnight I was thinking of the 2000lb shells used on the Iowas. Also brain-farted with mentally tallying 5000lb per aerial bomb, not 500lb. My bad.

[@TinKnight]

@@mpeterll Had the Yamato been present (it was still in Japanese waters at the time), its shells would've weighed up to 3219lbs while going 1745mph (2559fps). Crazy how adding 4" to the diameter more than doubled the shell weight, & how intense the Battle off Samar must've felt with full-sized sedans slamming into the ocean (or passing through the escort carrier Gambier Bay) at nearly Mach 3.

[@doodledangernoodle2517]

@@TinKnightspeaking of Battle off Samar, imagine if Task Force 34 didn’t take the bait? We could’ve had New Jersey, Iowa, Alabama and Washington going up against Japan’s Southern Force, Yamato, Nagato, Kongo and Haruna. Would’ve been intense, but even with the Yamato on their side, I personally can’t see the Japanese winning.

[@TinKnight]

@doodledangernoodle2517 Central Force. The Southern Force had been obliterated the night before by 6 BB's & others in the Surigao Strait. With TF34, I think there actually could've been more American casualties due to being a straight-on fight rather than trying to run away to survive... it probably would've been a US victory, but the Japanese wouldn't have been so disorganized & thrown off by the hundreds of planes acting insane & destroyers acting without regard for their safety.

[@Snailman3516]

The USS Marblehead is underrated. A constant thorn in the side of the japanese. They never managed to sink her. Probably protected by the spirit of General John Glover.

[@drksideofthewal]

Sounds awesome, I hope they make a video about it

[@williamcostigan91]

managed to survive and make the 20,000 mile journey home alone and nearly crippled. One of the few ships and I believe the only cruiser of the Asiatic Fleet and ABDA Command to make it out before the IJN could close the noose around them.

[@RizzenMurray]

​@@drksideofthewalIf OR doesn't, Drachinifel has a good video on Marblehead.

[@Zoped98]

Never been this early to an operation before

[@martinfinster9899]

39 seconds for me!

[@aDeathbomb]

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[@jamescooper944]

I like it when it’s fresh!

[@randallrobertson7190]

The last time I was this early, my dad and the other Barons had just made the English King sign that charter.

[@outofturn331]

Please save the patient

[@NATO32Nations]

Researching naval battles has become much easier thanks to your videos. Keep up the good work. Always excited for new videos.

[@WayneMoyer]

I've been researching destroyers and destroyer escorts myself.

[@Strathclydegamer]

Ooooh, MentourPilot and Operations Room all in one day, what a treat!

[@ExcavationNation]

Eeek MentourPilot gets annoying fast, you'll see what I mean I lasted about a month before I eventually couldn't stand his videos anymore. It's not that it's a bad channel but slowly the way he talks and engages in his videos somehow changed the way I enjoyed his videos to where I literally couldn't listen anymore, same with Johnny Harris

[@Strathclydegamer]

@@ExcavationNationMeh, each to their own I guess, I’ve been watching his stuff for over 3 years now and I still look forward to new content, I’ve even made suggestions for content and got an email back saying he’d add it to the list. I’ve got nothing but positive things to say about him and his channel. But I appreciate your point of view, thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@ExcavationNation]

@@Strathclydegamer maybe I'll give him another chance, maybe after the break I'll enjoy his channel again

[@ThePuschkin1986]

@@ExcavationNation same here

[@ExcavationNation]

@@ThePuschkin1986 I knew it wasn't only me, there something about him. But I can't really describe it.

[@clamum9648]

Players of World of Warships should recognize a lot of ship names Great video as always bois; love your work.

[@yonisamber8169]

They just found the Edsel. I only knew what the story was abount because of the Operations Room! Thank you for all you put out.

[@mbryson2899]

Thank you for sharing such a detailed account of what most history books consider to be a minor action (not minor at all to the participants). Nicely done!

[@williamlydon2554]

The Asiatic Fleet, and ABDA as a whole deserve much more recognition then they've received.

[@moistcurtains]

Wouldn't be a Pacific Theater video without some war crimes sprinkled in at the end.

[@Owenwatkins-oc6xk]

I really appreciate the work you guys do! I didn't know how much I never knew about ww2 (even though I've been a big nerd about it) until I watched some of your videos. I'm hooked. You guys make these naval battles and other topics so interesting and captivating. Thank you!

[@babyrob7777]

I have the utmost respect for these navy soldier. Wow. Rest in peace to the men who have fallen on land, sea, or air. May god take them into his kingdom.

[@JFirn86Q]

RIP to the extremely brave soldiers of the USS Edsail, who had no chance but fought to the bitter end. Those men are greats indeed.

[@vassilizaitzev1]

Excellent video Operations. The Edsall’s story has stood out to me ever since reading, “A Blue Sea of Blood,” by Don Kehn Jr. One of the many tales of heroism and tragedy of the Java Sea campaign.

[@SCATXXV]

There's a "positive" end to the story. The survivors of Edsall were picked up by the Japanese cruiser Chikuma, and were later executed. Later in the war Chikuma was the cruiser that was damaged by the destroyer escort Samuel B Roberts (yes that famous battle) and finished off by aircraft. The survivors were picked up by a destroyer...which was subsequently sunk with no survivors. Only one of Chikuma's crew survived the sinking and the war.

[@infernalone666]

Karma's a big fat B, innit?

[@JohnShields-xx1yk]

Great voicing and intelligent commentary, your one of my favorite channels, I've watched your other videos many times over. Much appreciated.

[@postRMO]

I appreciate what you do so much. It’s something I can genuinely focus on and enjoy, which is rare. Thank you.

[@djdalty9945]

I love this guys channel, ever since 2020 I’ve been waiting for new videos, this guy is #1 for history and military battles. Love the animations!

[@simmonsfoursome]

Your channel is so informative in such a visual and active environment it makes historical events captivating. I'd like to see an episode on the Benghazi and "Black Hawk Down" events...eventhough it'd be hard to watch bringing up old wounds.

[@redjive_industries3760]

I have great news for you WRT Black Hawk Down… there’s already a two part animation for it on the channel!

[@aussieboi2955]

Love the work you guys do, definitely the first patreon I will sign up to. Keep up it team

[@Craiger-]

Clemson Class aka "Four Pipers" and "Flush Deckers" my great uncle served on one of these Destroyers during WW2. He was a Electrician (EM1) petty officer. He served on USS Macleish DD-220

[@SitInTheShayd]

My other suggestion that might be more advertiser friendly, id like to see some of the Canadian engagements in Italy during WW2. Its hard to find good Canadian military history content from non Canadian sources, which is really tragic considering how much Canada did for the Italian Campaign. The forgotten army remains forgotten sadly.

[@johncmitchell4941]

Canada's contributions to two World Wars remain unrecognized and untaught. This is sad.

[@PerciusLive]

I still remember finding this channel when it was at 10k subscribers. The whole gulf war animation propelled it to new heights and im so glad for it because the quality is undescribably

[@PhantomCatGame]

I always see the video recommend as soon its uploaded on both channels your one of my favorite channels!

[@scottlin777]

This is one of my favorite channels

[@adamtruong1759]

How have I never heard about this story? This was awesome to watch.

[@MrDeancoote]

This story of courage , bravery and skill would make an epic film.

[@adambane1719]

Yes, the Japanese displayed this daily during that time

[@petercampbell4185]

We need you Op Room❤

[@franksposato6072]

Someday I hope you guys can finish the 1942 carrier battles and make a video for the battle of Santa Cruz. Awesome channel!

[@davidburke709]

We rightfully acknowledge the bravery of our soldiers in the MTO and the ETO and even in the Pacific, but man the Navy had guts to spare.

[@rundownthriftstore]

The video: 1 US destroyer VS. The Kido Butai First frame: desert storm Me: damn did I click the right video?

[@TheZombifiedGuy]

Man, that destroyer really must have given them the slip! 49 years later and half a world away but still going at it.

[@postRMO]

This is an absolutely brutal story

[@danielschuster1389]

Thanks for the last 5 years. Solid work and you guys should be proud. I love your channel I've watched every video and some of them multiple times

[@GunnerHeatFire]

Great video once again!

[@Seag_Plays]

Absolute RESPECT for the crews

[@Scott-ph2yk]

Commander Nix skillfully skippered the Edsall, forcing the Japanese to expend excessive resources to sudue the Edsall. On March 1, remember the brave men of the USS Edsall DD-219.

[@johnthetenor]

This is quality content. Thanks!

[@Diskord1982]

Am I surprised to see a new video? Yes. Do I absolutely love this channel? Yes. I promise I will do whatever I can to support this channel and Intel Report.

[@Erik_Arnqvist]

Brilliant work as always

[@BlueStarr86]

American Destroyers and Destroyer Captains: kinda built different.

[@bkjeong4302]

@@BlueStarr86 you do realize destroyer last stands happened with basically every WWII navy (even though Edsall’s was the most epic)?

[@TimeWiz]

Low key one of the best battle map recreations with history ever

[@JGCR59]

In the pre radar age, under visual spotting conditions, hitting a destroyer size target that knew what it was doing was difficult. And battleship guns were not designed to engage destroyers, thats why battleships had secondary guns. So no surprise the IJN wasted a lot of shells on Edsall.

[@jackland3387]

Awesome video as always. Thanks for your work

[@fieldadmiralspartanryseb-8293]

That was a really good video. I love this channel so much. Great job

[@IMeanMachine101]

Whatever happens please don't stop making these vid even if you need ads it's to important to not share and present this information on the manner you guys do keep up the good work!

[@MrPotatoPoo]

i never get recommended your videos and i never used to miss them. sad for you guys.

[@iamnolegend2519]

I always enjoy your team’s work!

[@AnimatedWarMapper]

Well made! Another great video

[@shysoup5740]

I can see an obvious increase in the quality of the animations since the team has grown. Good team!

[@clydedopheide1033]

Another great video! Thanks for the effort.

[@justandy333]

For those of you who have played world of warships, this is a rather familiar scenario. Those pesky destroyers! Damn you!

[@primigenius623]

FACTS 😂

[@johnnytruelove5823]

No problem you guys do a great job, I’ve learned a lot from these videos.

[@technerd880]

These guys are the perfect type of channel that could be on nebula

[@barrydysert2974]

i love Your amazing work. Thank You for bringing these stories back to life !:-) 🙏💜⚡

[@1701enter]

An amazing exploit, and the bravery of all involved.

[@courtlandstavley6178]

Gotta say absolutely love and have loved your content for years. Waiting for the conclusion on Ia Drang valley and black hawk down videos. Also band of brothers ones too, but it’s a travesty the censorship you guys have been hit with on history.

[@philb5593]

The USS Edsall employed the 5 d’s of dodge ball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge

[@rvnerd7671]

Great video/information as always! 👍

[@pinkpuppypaws7749]

Love your videos so much. Keep up the great work