10 Best Players NOT in the Baseball Hall of Fame | Major League Baseball

[@terryshaw9471]

Steve Garvey Lou Whitaker, Dave Parker, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue always come to mind for me

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There are good players on that list. Thanks for sharing

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

Vida may not have the longevity as a top pitcher to make the hof .

[@jaykay6387]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r I agree. His career parallels Dwight Gooden's quite closely. Blazing start, then tailed off rather quickly but still managed to carve out good careers, if not what their beginnings indicated.

[@rodolforudygarcia3513]

Ellis Burks, Gary Sheffield, Al Oliver, Dwight Evans

[@sandmanlogan5ran149]

No one ever brings up Lou Whitaker, he should have went in with Trammell. Whitaker's numbers stack up with most other second basemen in the Hall and he and Trammell retired as the all time double play duo.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I can't disagree. Good points on Whitaker.

[@rickallanolsen]

There are six second basemen in the Hall Of Fame. Lou has better numbers than all of them.

[@MichaelClarke1980]

Not only is he not in the hall of fame. His voting tallies were outrageously low. It's borderline a crime

[@MichaelClarke1980]

@@rickallanolsen not to be an annoying corrector but I dunno where you got that info from but it's 100% not true. There are at least 20 2b in hall of fame and a bunch of them got better numbers. One of them is a career 358 batter with 2 triple crowns for God's sake lol

[@billybandyk0720]

​@@rickallanolsenAll xcpt Joe Morgan.

[@steveneagan3953]

Steve Garvey belongs in the HOF. Zero scandals, one of the best all around players of the 70's, numerous All-Star games, accolades and awards both offensivley and defensively. How he's not in the HOF is beyond me.

[@MikeHart72]

Garvey absolutely should be in the HOF

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good Choice

[@greghoadley1815]

Gotta disagree. Only 272 homers (only one 30 HR season), 117 OPS+ and .329 OBP all very low for a first baseman. All-Star games are just a popularity contest, and he played for LA, a major media market. His 3 All-Star appearances with the Padres were not deserved -- I know, b/c I'm a lifelong Padre fan. (FTR, his game 4 HR against the Cubs in the 84 NLCS is still a cherished memory for me, but I still don't think he belongs in the HOF.)

[@frankramirez8618]

Garvey sure as heck doesn't belong in the U. S. Senate

[@MikeHart72]

@@greghoadley1815 Garvey has a lot of 200 hit seasons, more than a lot of people in the HOF

[@ronswinford4952]

Hearing someone outside of Atlanta say Murphey deserves to be in is nice to hear. He won back to back MVP's, but he was a much better person than player, hope Murph gets in someday, because his speech will be great. Jones deserves to get in as well. Willie Mays said he was the best defensive centerfielder he had ever seen, that says it all right there, plus he was on all those division championship teams.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thank you for the comments. Dale Murphy was awesome. He is so underrated. He was great!!

[@guyray1504]

Even if i hadn't seen A. Jones bat i think his outfield play is good enough to get into the HOF.

[@steve-v5v]

No one talks about one old time player that is a more worthy candidate than several on your list. Bob Johnson played from 1933 - 1945. In his 13 seasons he had 100 RBIs, or more, 8 times. 7 times he did this in consecutive years, He had more lifetime RBIs in 13 years (1283) than Dale Murphy had in 18. He has a lifetime OPS of .899. His OPS+ is 139. His lifetime on base percentage is an amazing .393. He hit 288 HRs in those 13 years. He was thought of as an excellent fielder. He played for mostly bad teams and was overshadowed by other stars of the era. It has always amazed me that his name is never brought up. He deserves to be in the HOF. As Casey Stengel once said, "You could look it up".

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good Player for sure. Not sure he's better than several on this list but then again this list isn't about whether they should or shouldn't be in the Hall. That being said his numbers were good.

[@steve-v5v]

I guess it is a matter of opinion. He is the least talked about legitimate candidate for the HOF. His numbers are better than some already in. Read about him and I bet you will change your mind. He was extremely well regarded by his fellow players. His numbers are HOF worthy. He played for the As when Mack had sold off most of the stars and he had little around him. Makes his numbers even more remarkable to me. I did like your video.@@birdlandnetwork83

[@mariocisneros911]

Ok

[@Diosprometheus]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Dale Murphy played catcher his first few years with the Braves as did Craig Biggio for Houston.

[@Diosprometheus]

Bob Johnson had the misfortune of Playing for the Philadelphia A's in the 1930's. He is without doubt one of the best left-fielders to every play baseball and during his time put up Hall of Fame worthy numbers with a team that was miserable and never had a winning season while he played for them. Not many people even know who he is today and I doubt the modern A's even know much about him. He is one of the lost players in baseball.

[@koolaid117]

Dave Stieb. The channel Secret Base did a 4 part series on him and his career and using analytics on how good he actually was during his career. He should be on the list.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was good. no doubt.

[@knockout3630]

Shoeless Joe Jackson should be in the hall of fame because if he was trying to lose the game he was doing a bad job he hit over .400 in that series

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There are some points to show he did his best. But you never know and I guess that's why he's not in. They said he was in on it and they can't prove he wasn't. Not definitely anyway. I'm not disagreeing I just see why he's not.

[@anthonytropiano6650]

Pls look at sweet Lou career he is better then almost 90% of the second basemen who are in the hall .yes he is in as a team with tram ( the best double play combo ) .for us tiger fans he should be in .

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@anthonytropiano6650 Fair point. That's why these videos are fun. Like to hear other opinions as long as they're respectful. Whitaker was a really good player for sure.

[@notacynic1]

Look at his numbers in the games they lost. The ones they were dumping. He didn't hit .400 in those. Or even .200, if I'm remembering right

[@ffdaddy69]

besides Shoeless Joe the most obvious choice is Pete Rose!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

How about Dave Concepcion? He was the best SS I ever saw play. He also invented the bounce throw to 1st. Good hitter and could steal/run.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

That's a great choice. Awesome player for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@kendallevans4079]

Bounce was because his arm wasn't the best and if he didn't launch it high it wouldn't make it.

[@Pythagoras1963]

he only has a WAR of 40.1 267 hitter is not that good when there is very little power

[@24HeySay]

He wasn't even as good as his contemporary Campy Campaneris, who's never getting in. Plus, Concepcion had several HOF'ers in the Reds lineup whose presence guaranteed he would get great pitches to hit, but he still wasn't that good of an offensive player. Very good player, but not HOF material. Plus he played half his games on astroturf, which almost always guaranteed nice bounces on grounders.

[@othgmark1]

Ozzie Smith was a significantly better short stop than Davey.

[@RobertBare]

Thank you for listing Shoeless Joe Jackson. He was given a lifetime ban...he is dead & since no longer alive...hasn't he served his sentence of a lifetime ban? Time to do the right thing and he belongs in the HOF...he was that good

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He definitely was that good. Thanks for watching.

[@MrListen2meplez]

Will Clark? Cons: only 2176 career hits, 284 HRS. So longevity stats are a bit low due to not extending his MLB career as long as he could have. Pros: .303 lifetime BA, outstanding combo of power and BA, led SF to the World Series, was a dynamic clutch star, one of a kind batting style, great role model, retired early to devote himself to his autistic son. Will Clark has my vote, he was singlehandedly worth the price of admission!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was pretty awesome. Love Will Clark.

[@othgmark1]

The thrill was exactly what you wanted a baseball hero to be.

[@jeffw1267]

And he only called teammates the n-word once in a while. Not every day.

[@robertanderson2898]

Also an .880 OPS and 137 OPS+ ...... and a 56.5 WAR which is higher than Hall of Famers like Harold Baines and Tony Oliva. Had Clark played 5 more seasons he'd have made the HOF.

[@stevespatola763]

Maybe a HOF is needed for the BBWA turndown because they may have had an issue with a player not related to his performance, rather his personality.

[@edwardvenegas4982]

David Concepcion-#13 Big Red Machine better hitter than Ozzie in regular AND postseason. Smooth with the leather and great base runner.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

good points.

[@davidoneill5664]

Billy Wagner, Keith Hernandez, Kenny Lofton, Omar Zisquel

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Billy Wagner I agree with. He'll get in this year.

[@joselopezmoya9786]

How about JOHN FRANCO who finished with over 400 saves, the most by a lefthanded closer in MLB history?? HE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Maybe so. I can't put him on my list though.

[@ernieramos-dm1bt]

You forgot Donnie baseball who never cheated the game with steroids and should of been MVP twice with his stats. Don’t forget what a great defensive 1st baseman he was too.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Very good player. Didn't forget him he just doesn't make my list. Whether or not he should be in the Hall of Fame is a debate for another video. That's not what this video was about anyway.

[@ernieramos-dm1bt]

@@birdlandnetwork83 okay I understand that and really appreciate your response but there are other players that should be in the hall that you didn’t mention that should be that didn’t use steroids. Baseball like other games is supposed to be about integrity and sportsmanship. That’s why if you cheat the game and you know it for personal gain or glory then we just should throw out the rules and regulations that keeps the game with integrity and honor. Cheating is cheating and it’s not like the players don’t know the rules. It’s similar to politicians when they get involved with cheating the nation taking bribes and caught doing dishonest things that they know is unlawful. They also must pay the consequences too. Although it maybe different professions by principle rules and regulations are the same.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@ernieramos-dm1bt I understand your point and agree that these guys don't belong in the Hall of Fame because they used PEDs and they've paid the price for that. They're not in!!! That being said players like Bonds, Clemens, Arod, Manny and the others I listed are incredible players even without the PEDs and are clearly the best players not in the Hall. The other players who did not use are to be commended but they're still not better than those guys even if those guys didn't use. Just my opinion. BTW you are 100% correct it is about integrity, honesty and sportsmanship and those guys didn't have it and again.....that's why they're not in. Great conversation.

[@nickelstacking2023]

Shoeless Joe my #1 with Rose #2 , and Clemens #3 , Bonds #4 and #5 would be Dick Allen , a very good 1st Baseman . The best American League player for two years.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good list.

[@thomasdobrowolski5996]

Dick Allen - love the man. Him smoking a cigarette for a baseball card. Love it!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

LOL

[@fratzogmopars]

Dick was a fan favorite in Chicago. If he had a longer career and applied himself he would have been a shoe in for the hall. Anyone who hits two inside the park homeruns in the same game, and blasts one over the 445 foot center field wall in cavernous old Sox Park belongs in the HOF.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@fratzogmoparslol don't forget Greg Luzinskies 2 rooftop shots at old Comisky

[@fratzogmopars]

@@Mr-Angelo0U812 Luzinski had more than that, and Kittle had 7 rooftop shots.

[@dace938]

Re: artificial turf: "If a horse can't eat it, I don't want to play on it.

[@rufuspipemos]

Here is the entire list of eligible, non-steroid MLB players with 2 MVPs not in the HOF..... Dale Murphy.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good one

[@jimmydabaker]

I concur.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@jimmydabakeri concur with your concurness😂

[@floydparr8006]

Roger Maris too.

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Maris isn’t never getting in

[@joshuawebb6694]

Dick Allen and Dale Murphy but no Dwight Evans? The most HRs and Extra Base hits of the 1980s.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

That's a good one.

[@thomasblackwell462]

Dewey

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@thomasblackwell462and Chewy! Chewbacca😂

[@tomtalley2192]

Evans was the best right fielder from about 1975-1988.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

As long as crybaby Darrel Evans and his sissy . 248 lifetime batting average never makes it in the hof .

[@michaelsanders3629]

Ummm...no, Manny Ramirez does not hold the Major League or American League record for RBI's in a season. That would be Hack Wilson and Lou Gehrig respectively.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Ummmm........thanks captain obvious. That is correct. Hack Wilson holds the record with 191. Manny isn't even in the top 10 all time for a single season. I didn't say he held the all time record for a single season. Either way the record is Hack Wilson. The way I said it definitely sounds like I meant all time but I didn't. Thanks for pointing out the possible error in the video.

[@paulzumbo]

No Don Mattingly?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Nope. Not on my list. These 10 are better. In my humble opinion. Mattingly was awesome but just misses for me.

[@paulzumbo]

​@@birdlandnetwork83he never cheated

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@paulzumbo agreed! He didn't use PEDs. That being said these players on my list were amazing players who took it too far. Even if they hadn't used PEDs I'd take them. Some of them were generational players who allowed greed and fame to cloud their judgement and they've paid the price.

[@MrListen2meplez]

Jim Edmonds? Cons: just under 2k hits, so longevity wasn’t achieved. Pros: 393 HRS. Arguably the best defensive CF in MLB history. See his greatest catches video clips, no CF was better…

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was very good for sure.

[@donbelenger817]

DWIGHT EVANS, if Ozzie Smith is in the hall of fame for his defense then Evans should be too, he was a decent hitter too. One of the best right field ever , great arm!

[@joemac4880]

Agree with this choice BIG Time!!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He's a good one.

[@b.j.reuter7215]

Cannon

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Elite hitter I think

[@GreyHorton-le1js]

Agree completely on Dale Murphy…and Andruw Jones. Both were a bit inconsistent at the plate at times…but both belong in the hall. Some say Jones may be the best defensive outfielder ever. Murphy was the heart and soul of the Braves for years.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thanks for watching.

[@jamesfields2916]

I love the crazy Bonds stat where one season he had more total bases than official at bats thanks to 232 base on balls. 373 official at bats and got on base 376 times!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There was a time when everyone was scared to pitch to him.

[@jamesfields2916]

@@birdlandnetwork83 I'm more amazed at his walks records. Intentionally walked like 17 times with bases loaded. Intentionally walked with nobody on. Dude had the best eye in the history of baseball. Might get one pitch all night and crush it to go along with four walks

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

What year was that

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Crazy thing is he only hit 11 grand slams

[@jamesfields2916]

@@magicjohnson-o4l 2004.

[@joeleicht5764]

To hell with the writers and the veterans committee. I think there should be certain milestones that automatically gain a spot in the HOF. They are 500 home runs, 3,000 strikeouts, 300 wins, four awards such as MVP or Cy Young, 10 times picked for the All Star Game or ,300 lifetime batting average for a career of 15 years. If you hit any of those marks, you should be in, not subject to the whims of sportswriters.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thanks for the comments.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

Lefty O'Doul .

[@AlexDanielCPhT]

For all the times the Character Clause has been invoked to keep a borderline candidate out (Dick Allen, Omar Vizquel, etc.), I can't think of a single time it's been invoked to get a borderline candidate in. And there's one borderline candidate whose character should've been enough: Dale Murphy.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Really good guy. No doubt.

[@Alan-lv9rw]

Ron Santo was at the top of this list for many years, but that’s been resolved.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Fair enough

[@joeydbball1729]

Has no one mentioned Keith Hernandez? Far and away, the greatest defensive 1st baseman in the last 50 years.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Great defensive 1st baseman. His name has come up

[@RobertDetert]

And a great actor playing himself on "Seinfeld".

[@jaynash2645]

They say he was a bad teammate, sorry to the writers and loved the Devils dandruff a little too much.. 😂. But he could hit and he had that Velcro glove at first base so yeah I kinda agree

[@MIKIEEYEZ1975]

@@jaynash2645” Devil’s Dsndruf as in Blow? 😂😂😂😂

[@jaynash2645]

@@MIKIEEYEZ1975 lol yeah… rumors that the 86 met team was snorting the field lines before the game..😭 I mean I’ve saw that was part of the Cardinals issues with him…most of baseball used greenies back then , amphetamines just in case your young and never heard of them. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black in my opinion but…

[@SteveDerrer]

C.mon. Where's Roger Maris?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Maris had three great years and the rest were ok, nothing special. Doesn't make my list.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Rocky Colavito .

[@jellomarx]

Dick Allan was not a good fielder

[@RobertBare]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r Don't knock the Rock...the bat incident in the stands with the person assaulting his Father has a bearing on this...I would have done the same thing if someone did that to my Father

[@ticnatz]

The PED issue will be with us for a while longer. Vada Pinson, Tommy John, Dave Parker, Lou Whitaker, Mark Grace......jus' sayin'

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Yes it will be with us forever. Thanks for the comments. Good list.

[@Diosprometheus]

@@birdlandnetwork83 if you judge the years Vada Pinson played with Frank Robinson you would think he was a sure HOFer/ He never hit the same after Robby became an O and while good he was just a average hitter.

[@allanhugo9213]

I agree with your list wholeheartedly. You did quite a bit of homework. There were so many great ballplayers to choose from.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thank you for the kind words. Hope you come back and watch more. Have a great day

[@tonyrichard7966]

Pete ROSE yes!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I agree he should be on the list. In the HOF?? That's another story.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Pete did no wrong . People go to Reno every day to gamble on MLB .

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r I gotta disagree. He bet on baseball and then HE agreed to the lifetime ban. That made him ineligible for induction into the Hall of Fame. If he did nothing wrong why did he agree to the ban? It's sad but it is what it is.

[@michaelpoirier39]

Many on this list either juiced (and got busted, see Palmeiro and Ramirez, respectively), admitted to juicing (ARod, who was suspended for it) a/o were accused of juicing based on their insane numbers late in their careers (Bonds and Clemens). Two gambled a/o took money to lose, though w/ Jackson I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. With Rose, not so much. Andruw Jones and Dick Allen still have a chance (w/ either the BBWAA a/o a future Vets Committee). Murphy was impressive in the 80s, but stalled out.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

All very good point.s

[@jimfrontz3457]

Tired of hearing about the juice it was ok when doctors gave it to them to heal quicker, it was ok when Maguire & Sosa were battling for home run record ( Sosa didn't do steroids) then all sudden its bad. Bonds was walked, intentionally walked was lucky to see a strike in AB. The percentage of the times he was on it was unbelievable . Steroids might have made it go farther but didn't have anything to do with timing or hitting the ball. Bonds needs to be in. HOF isn't full of good people so stop acting like saints

[@maddie0270]

Rose never bet against his team

[@jamesfields2916]

@@maddie0270 how could you prove that? Not saying he did but he opened the door to huge issues of being in position to influence the outcomes of games.

[@jamesfields2916]

Bonds never tested positive. Writers bringing their own biases into the voting kept him out. I'll never understand why writers think these guys have to be your friends. Bonds has admitted lately he should have probably handled the press better.

[@garywolfe9585]

Steve garvey

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He's come up alot.

[@JoshGibson-fb7mf]

Dale Murphy , Cobra , Keith Hernandez , Curt Schilling, Billy Wagner , Beltran , D Allen

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Some good ones on there. I think Wagner will get in next year.

[@Trumpisscum-420]

Beltran is only in his second year of eligibility on the HoF ballot. And he's already getting like 50+% of votes, he'll get in within a couple more votes.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@Trumpisscum-420 strong possibility for sure.

[@briancanedy3894]

Curt Shilling for sure

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Roger Clemens?

[@lawrencemarocco8197]

How about Bill Buckner? His lifetime stats certainly put him in HOF territory. He is unfortunately best remembered for that dribbler that went between his bad ankles in the 1988 world series.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There have been several comments on him.

[@Gto1927]

That would be 86 World Series

[@mifan67karaokeandsingalong15]

It was 1986 the Redsox lost the world series to the Mets

[@Gto1927]

@@mifan67karaokeandsingalong15 please, don’t remind me

[@MIKIEEYEZ1975]

1986 W.S. Douche!! 😂😂😂😂

[@ConsensusReality]

Andruw Jones, Lou Whitaker, Kenny Lofton

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good picks

[@ghijkmnop]

Before Manny Ramirez imploded, he was the odds-on favorite to break Lou Gehrig's Grand Slam record-- which A-Rod eventually broke.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was on his way no doubt. He's still third though. A Rod, Gehrig, Manny and Murray

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@birdlandnetwork83Robin Ventura hit a lot also

[@ThomasBragdon-cm2jz]

Manny should be in the greatest 2 strike hitter in baseball. Roger also if they did ped it was at the end of career because of age and injuries

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@ThomasBragdon-cm2jz whether at the end of their careers or not doesn't make it right. If you're old and you can't play anymore then it is what it is. Accept it and move on . Be happy with the career you had. Nope they couldn't do that. Greed clouds judgement. EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Grand slams are kinda of overrated tbh

[@ernestpolk9555]

Murph was one of the best CF, also......He should be in HOF!!!!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Whether or not he should be in I won't argue. I just know he was pretty awesome.

[@tomsmith522]

Add Steve Garvey and Kirk Shilling.....11+12

[@birdlandnetwork83]

good ones

[@DavidBayliff]

barry pete should be in steve gravey fred lynn dave concepcion dale murphey were great players and should be in

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Can't let everyone in. It's the Hall of Fame for a reason. Not the Hall of Very Good

[@fdb95e]

SAMMY SOSA, is the only player with 60 Home Runs in 3 straight seasons....AVERAGED over 55 HR six straight, and had 9 straight 100 RBI seasons where he averaged j127 RBI

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good player. PED's, corked bats etc don't help his cause.

[@robertanderson2898]

You mean the only player with 60 Homers 3 times. He chipped in a 50 in between.

[@switchback0123]

No H all for drug abusers and cheaters. Absolutely. Forever.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I agree! The sad part is many of them were darn good without PEDs.

[@Roger.R.M.A.]

What about David Concepción? I think he belongs in the Hall of fame...

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Not sure. Didn't make my list.

[@marksieber4626]

Al Oliver, Dick Allen, Steve Garvey. No steroid or gamblers ever. The voting however should change to only uniformed players, managers, and coaches.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good list. My list was more about just the best players NOT in the Hall of Fame. Not whether or not they should be.

[@natureboy1313]

Al "scoops" Oliver, very good ball player. He is not forgotten.

[@nickelstacking2023]

Rose admitted to gambling on REDS games , but to always win. If he would have bet against the Reds ,I would have had serious problems with it , but Rose would have been a Billionaire , so he is telling the truth I believe.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I understand the logic but I just can't take his word on anything. His gambling obsession was just as big as his obsession to win. I would not put it past him to bet against his team. Sad because based on his numbers alone he's an obvious Hall of Famer.

[@jnjtiger]

Confusing disqualified players with those just not voted in. By the way, Jackson played long enough to be in Hall, but was disqualified. Jackson took money, admitted it. No one said he did not play to win, but clearly took the money and admitted it. If you actually visit Cooperstown, Jackson is referenced throughout the building. Certainly not forgotten.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Not confusing disqualified with those just not voted in. The whole point of the video was to list the 10 best players not in the Hall of Fame. This isn't about why they're not in or if they should be!!! I've been to the Hall of fame four times (twice for inductions) and I know Jackson is throughout but his plaque isn't on that wall.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@birdlandnetwork83that's cool you went to 2 inductions. Which players?

[@jonathanmouton1457]

Jackson did not take the money.read the facts.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@Mr-Angelo0U812Well I'm an Orioles fan so I was there for Eddie Murray and Cal Ripken

[@felixorozco6514]

Great video. ⚾💯

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thank you very much.

[@MichaelLangdon-g4g]

Pete Rose !!!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was on the list.

[@charlescline8943]

I understand those 1919 white Sox players who agreed to throw that world series were stiffed concerning the money they were promised

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Maybe. Who knows

[@charlescline8943]

@@birdlandnetwork83 that's what I heard 😐

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@charlescline8943I didn't realize you were there. LOL!! I'm kidding.

[@mikeykimm6719]

I used to believe in the reasons to ban Pete Rose, but nowadays every major sport leagues are willing to kill to get their hands on that online gambling money. Do we really need to be so cruel to let an old man suffer while still having lead the history of baseball in total hits?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Fair points. I said this with a few other comments. The issue with Rose is he agreed to the lifetime ban. Part of the ban was he in ineligible to be elected. I don't know if he did or didn't be on the Reds. All I know is he's not in. He was great though. Plus I will say this. Actions require accountability. Sometimes cruel is what's needed for the lesson to be learned. Otherwise it keeps happening. Love the comments though. Have a great day.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@birdlandnetwork83and not to mention that possibly Ichiro Suzuki if he played all his years in the Major Leagues i think he would have shattered Roses hit record. I agree with you about consequences totally 👍✌

[@jamesfields2916]

Palmeiro dug his own grave after testifying in front of congress saying he never did roids and then almost immediately testing positive.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Still a heck of a ballplayer. Not in and shouldn't be in but deserves to be on this list.

[@jamesfields2916]

@@birdlandnetwork83 no doubt he was. Just think in 1985 Mississippi State had him,Will Clark,Jeff Brantley and Bobby Thigpen. Lost in the last elimination game at the CWS on a walk off grand slam by Miami.

[@robshields9614]

Vada Pinson

[@birdlandnetwork83]

ok

[@markkaminski2416]

Mr Birdland , if you asked fifty people you probably wouldn't get a list everyone would agree on. As an Oriole fan I'm surprised you didn't mention Ken Singleton. He was my all time favorite Oriole. Stellar offensive stars, 2 time runner up in MVP voting. Dwight Evans deserves a shout out also.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Definitely would get different lists from everyone I agree. That's what makes these lists so great. They're all subjective. As for Singleton I'll say this. Really good player and switch hitter. I love Kenny and I've met him (nice guy) but he doesn't make my list. The players I listed are better. I love the Orioles but I do pride myself on being objective. Thanks for watching.

[@Demy1970]

Murphy was better than Harold Blaine’s and Mauer

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Fair point.

[@PeteMcDevittShow]

great job

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thanks Pete!

[@MarkYeung1]

Did anybody mention Mark McGwire? Incredible numbers.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Not many have mentioned him. Some have

[@jprice6419]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Sosa and McGwire = The best home run race of all time. Fun to be a baseball fan that year

[@MIKIEEYEZ1975]

Incredible STEROIDS!! 😂😂😂😂💩💩💩💩😎

[@Diosprometheus]

I Think Tacoma Park's Steve Barber had a chance top ,make the Hall of Fame had he not injured his arm in 1966. For the rest of his career he had trouble winning games or staying healthy. Rafael Palmeiro has the HOF numbers but no chance of gong into the Hall. He is one of only seven players in MLB history to be a member of both the 500 home run club (569) and the 3,000 hit club, (3020) He also has 586 doubles

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Funny enough I knew his son John Barber. Used to work with him at Kibby's restaurant a very long time ago. Good pitcher for sure. Palmeiro put up good numbers but the PEDs will always be a black mark for him.

[@Diosprometheus]

@@birdlandnetwork83 I met Jim Gentile's son once. Was not happy when his dad was traded to KC for Norm Siebern. As it turned out neither one of them would last long in the majors.

[@mysticakhenaton1701]

my boy Bill Buckner, got MORE career hits than 70% of the players in the HOF. Buckner got MORE hits than any player on that 86 Mets team. Dale Murphy like Buckner with the Cubs. played on A LOT of BAD teams in Atlanta. there numbers/Buckner, and Murphy, would have been even better on contending/BETTER teams.

[@mysticakhenaton1701]

Buckner got MORE hits in the 70's and 80's. than ALL other players doing that time...except, Pete Rose.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Buckner was a good hitter. There's a case for him here I agree. He didn't do anything great but did get hits. He wasn't a home run hitter, he wasn't an RBI guy, He wasn't a stolen base guy, he wasn't great defensively but he did get hits and his lifetime average is good. It's not a knock on him it's just he's one of those guys that was good, and consistent but didn't do anything great. I think that's why he's forgotten alot. Thanks for the comments.

[@Dominos-el7qr]

Did Buckner have more hits than Rod Carew? Maybe, but I can't believe that.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@Dominos-el7qr No. Buckner had over 1700 hits. Carew was over 3000 for their careers.

[@Trumpisscum-420]

I wouldn't even say Buckner qualifies for Hall of very good. He racked up some hits but even though he played like 22 or 23 years he only ended up with 2700+. He never put up a season higher than 3.7 WAR, only had 3 seasons with a WAR over 3.0 and only 15.0 career WAR. He didn't have much in terms of power, no speed, not great defense, he was a very one dimensional player.

[@mrstone2903]

As you are an 0s fan what thoughts on the G.Davis trade?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

In hindsight the trade was one of the worst in Orioles history (the Eddie Murray trade was the worst to me) because they traded away Pete Harnisch, Steve Finley and Curt Schilling. Schilling is a borderline HOFer, Finley had a marvelous career and Harnisch was pretty good. At the time the trade made sense. Trade for proven commodity in Davis who was 29 and in his prime and was hitting 30hr/season in the cavernous Astro dome for three guys that were promising but unproven. The trade is a bad one for sure. Wish we could have that one back.

[@markkaminski2416]

It was one of the worst trades ever. The Doug Decinces for Dan Ford was a bad move also. Dan Ford was a good player but the Orioles didn't need another outfielder. The Orioles didn't have a bonafide third baseman for years afterwards. Decinces was a solid #5 hitter and outstanding defensively.

[@mrstone2903]

@markkaminski2416 yes remember Kiko Garcia?

[@markkaminski2416]

​@@mrstone2903Yes I do remember him. If you recall he tore the Pirates up in game three of the 1979 WS. How about Len Sakata? Also Roenicke and Lowenstein in left field were outstanding. Best Wishes!

[@markkaminski2416]

​@@mrstone2903Don't forget Ken Singleton!

[@ilovebaseballcards9334]

Garvey is so deserving

[@jimmydabaker]

The Padres retired his number, but the Dodgers didn't.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Lots of people have mentioned him

[@thomasespositio3139]

I agree I wonder is Ted Simmons in? His numbers for a catcher are great if he isn't

[@garyfaught3769]

Career .357 in playoff games. That screams clutch

[@guyray1504]

I don't think writers should be picking who get in. How many games have they ever played in? Maybe retired coaches or someone who knows what it takes to play that level year in and year out. Not someone's who's hardest job is to spell someone's name right.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

The writers have always been the ones to pick the Hall of Famers. For the most part they've gotten it right. Plus many of them have been around the game a very long time and know the game. You don't have to be a player or coach to recognize talent. The system is flawed I agree but I think they do a good job.

[@guyray1504]

@birdlandnetwork83 when Willie Mays says A.Jones is the best center fielder he has ever seen but the writer's has it wrong. And Dale Murphy with two MVP plus what he did on and off the field and they still get it wrong. Some players on the list had or have off field problems these two are the best a person could be.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@guyray1504Ok agreed!! Again....as I said before.....FOR THE MOST PART.....the writers get it right. There are far more players in or not in that they got right than players in or not in that they got wrong. Can't argue that point. Whether it's the writers, coaches, players or whoever there will be mistakes made. NO SYSTEM IS FULL PROOF!!

[@Demy1970]

I think Richie Allen became an enemy of the writers

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Could be

[@mariocisneros911]

To many white sox fans too. He quit and our team's Hope's fell. Our owner wasn't rich and sold off all his best players that helped other teams get to the world series. The Yankees and the Dodgers. Loss : Rich Gossage, Terry Forster , Bucky Dent , Brian Downing.and our manager Chuck Tanner went to Pittsburgh and won in 79

[@mariocisneros911]

He is mine. I loved him when he came to the White Sox in 72 by signing a 4 year contract and they were contending . Players got hurt in 73 and 74 and than he just quit , retired in the beginning September 74.. Contracts were coming up in 76,and 77 and the owner was not wealthy and saw FREE AGENCY COMING IN 1976. TRADED, VETERANS AND UP AND COMING SUPERSTARS. THE FORMER WHITE SOX HELPED THE 77, 78 YANKEES, 77,78 DODGERS AND 79 PIRATES TO THE WORLD SERIES. THE PIRATES HIRED OUR MANAGER

[@DJCloroxx]

There's about 10 more: Whitaker, Schilling, Rolen, Beltran, Lofton, Billy Wagner, Pinson, Dwight Evans, Sosa, McGwire

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Sosa and McGwire were one dimensional to me. Good Home run hitters but not much more. I do think Billy Wagner gets in this year.

[@DarrylKing-ur5km]

Dave Concepcion should be in . He was the best SS of the 1970s You can't tell me that Trammell & Whit was better than Concepion & Morgan ain't no way .The Big Red Machine should have there entire infield in the Hall of Fame Cooperstown IMO Is Racist

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good Pick in Concepcion.

[@Brownskidmarksonmyunderwear]

Everything with you people is racism. Must be a horrible existence

[@johnsimca7093]

Dick Allen while playing left field with the Dodgers threw out two runners at the plate in The Same Inning!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Cool.

[@stocksgoupward5922]

and Those PED Guys dont belong in and neither does Rose. There are consequences for your actions. You got records, you got huge contracts and money but now NO HOF for you. Thats what you get, and you did it to yourself. Funniest is Palmeiro. He should have just quit the game. But he points his finger, wagging it at congress and then weeks later tests positive. Now had he quit the game he'd be in the hall of fame cause no one would have known. Too bad Arod, Clemons, Bonds, Manny, Mark McGwire and many others. You did this to yourself, you didnt have to do this but you did. Rose well he knew gambling was wrong and he did it while being a manager. Why didnt he wait til he was out of the game. He did this to himself too. He started to reneg on his losing bets and they rolled over on him. Pay your debts and they would have kept quiet. And Then Rose lied and lied about it. Again consequences. Younger writers all will let everyone of these guys in some day cause like the bad parents they are they dont discipline their bad kids and they wont make these cheaters pay for their crimes. oh its ok I will let you in. haha I am glad they all arent in. Schilling is getting robbed. its because of his politics and its from after he played not during did he do that. Dwight Evans too and Thurman Munson. no one more clutch or a bigger leader who was a winner who won 2 World series and who career was cut short cause of death. Top Catchers in 70's there were 3 and Munson was one of them. you know the other two.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

good points.

[@JL-ec1by]

Lofton deserves it. More than the All-Star games (6), gold gloves (4), and stolen base titles (5), he was the best leadoff hitter of the 90s.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Really good player for sure. Didn't make my list though. Awesome leadoff hitter no doubt.

[@MarkM-rx2mc]

Lou Whitaker should be on your list….

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I've been hearing that alot. Good player for sure.

[@robertsims6931]

I respect some of your list

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thank you?

[@BryantWilliams-d3j]

Dick Allen probably didn't make it because he probably talked about equality and justice for black ppl....

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I'm not sure. He was good though.

[@thomasespositio3139]

He was great certainly more militant than many of his time,used the heaviest bat in the majors and maybe outside of frank howard the strongest guy in the league at 5 ft 11 the writers didn't like Richie he marched to his own drum

[@Bob-d5j]

It’s been said that two thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third was covered by Andrew Jones.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

LOL!! Good one

[@bluebird925]

Pete Rose played briefly for the Montreal Expos before The Cincinnati Reds reaquired him to be player/manager.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Yes he did.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@birdlandnetwork83and the Phillies

[@jamesfields2916]

Eight Men Out came out in 1988 which means there were still people who could have seen that movie who saw Shoeless Joe Jackson play in person.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There's a possibility for sure.

[@mikepuncsak7297]

You forgot Rocky Colavito

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good Player.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Great player . Better than Maris and Kaline and better than Frank Robinson after Robby's 1966 season , as Robby was just a good player from 67 to 71 .

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r certainly your opinion but he wasn't better than Kaline or Frank at any point in his career. My opinion back.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 At least all 3 of them were much better than selfish non - team player Rickey Henderson , who attempted to steal bases when the Oakland A's were 9 runs ahead or 9 runs behind just to set stolen base records . That isn't baseball , that is showing the other team up . Rickey wouldn't last a month in the NL in the 1960s . Bob Gibson , Don Drysdale , Juan Marichal , Jim Maloney , Warren Spahn , Ferguson Jenkins and Jim Bunning would see his selfish attitude and constantly knock him down. And Rickey wouldn't steal many bases against great defensive catchers like Johnny Bench , Jerry Grote , Randy Hundley , Del Crandall , Tom Haller , Clay Dalrymple and Johnny Roseboro .

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r for some reason you really don't like Rickey Henderson. Either way he was a great ballplayer and a Hall of Famer. Sorry to disagree again but Rickey is better than those guys as well. He's the greatest base stealer every, was a good outfielder and probably the greatest leadoff hitter of all time. I don't like him either but the guy was amazing. Stolen bases were a big thing back then and he was the best at it. His job was to get on and steal and he did it better than anyone.

[@sethmann6397]

Palmeiro testified in front of Congress that he didn't juice. Right or wrong, that sealed his HOF fate.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I agree.

[@mullet75]

So, it’s Murphy, Jones, and Allen. Then 7 guys with PEDs or gambling. How about sweet Lou Whittaker? Dwight Evans? Make the case for guys left out on stats, not scandals.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

This video isn't about guys being left out or if they belong or not. It's just my opinion of the 10best players not in, not whether they should or shouldn't be. Whitaker and Evans are good picks.

but you gave excuses as to why some weren't in @@birdlandnetwork83

[@sas6561]

AL OLIVER!!!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Interesting pick

[@WolfsDE]

For me, it is this list. Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly, Kenny Lofton, John Franco, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Lou Whittaker, Jeff Kent, Mark Grace, Jim Kaat, Bernie Williams, Smoky Joe Wood, Thurman Munson, Keith Hernandez, Tommy John and Steve Garvey. I know it is more than 10, but this is the list of guys I would put in before any of the steroid guys like Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmerro(sp?), Mark McGwire, Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez and Jose Canseco or even possibly Albert Bell. Not saying the veteran's committee can't take the cases up, I just think those guys should be in first and foremost. Curt Schilling, because of his off the field behavior, I don't think he gets in until after his death. Like it or not, he has done it to himself. I am sure one can make a case for 50 or so more guys who belong or don't belong in the Hall of Fame. But to me, it is criminal that the 15 guys I named are not in the Hall of Fame. Just looking at Mark Grace's case alone....he led MLB in total hits for the entire decade of the 1990's. (1,754) Played gold glove (4) defense and went to a few All-Star games and has a World Series ring with the Arizona Diamondbacks. He is the only player to accomplish that feet aside from Pete Rose and not be in the Hall of Fame. He also led MLB in most Sac Flies with 73 for the decade. Most doubles during rhe decade as well (364) and a career .303 BA with 2,445 career hits and over 500 career doubles and a .383 OBP. As well as more Walks (1075) than strikeouts (642), an OPS of .825 and OPS+ of 119...I fail to see that just because he only hit 173 HR's and had 1,146 career RBI's that this should be the 2 stats that keep him from election to Cooperstown when he played in the Steroid era and did it clean. Sure, he wasn't a big time power hitter. But he was really damn good and one of the smartest players in baseball during his era. In my book, a player like that belongs in the Hall of Fame before those who used Steroids or were suspected of it. Mark Grace was a pure hitter and one of the best pure hitters in baseball history.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

All good points. Remember though this isn't about whether they should or shouldn't be in. It's just a list of the ten best players in my opinion not in the Hall of Fame. Nothing more nothing less.

[@mariocisneros911]

Kaat is in. And many on yours should be in automatically too.

[@dukeford]

If Munson's on the list, Bill Freehan should be, too.

[@summerboy1976]

John Franco was a big choker. If it was a big game, he was going to blow it ! And I don’t want to hear about that one lucky save in the playoffs against Barry bonds

[@smartluck100]

Larry Bowa. If Mazeroski and Ozzie Smith are in the Hall of Fame based on defense, then he should be also

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Haven't seen Bowa's come up yet. Not sure I'd link him with Ozzie Smith. Smith has the highest defensive WAR ever with a 44.2 to go along with 13GG. Bowa's Defensive WAR is 19.1 which is 57th with 2GG. The comparison to Mazeroski I get but not Ozzie. Especially if we're talking defensive only. Plus this video isn't about whether or not they should be in the HOF. It's simply a list of the 10 best players NOT in the Hall, not if they deserve to be or not. Thanks for the comments.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

I like Campaneris . Same lifetime batting average and homers as Maz , a great fielder , base stealer and clutch hitter in the post season . I would rather have team players like Maz , Campy , Brett Butler and Robby Thomson on my team than selfish Rickey Henderson , who attempted to steal bases when the Oakland A's were winning by 9 runs or trailing by 9 runs just to set base stealing records . That isn't baseball . That is showing up the other team !

[@rodolforudygarcia3513]

Ellis Burks, Al Oliver, Dwight Evans, they have awesome numbers

[@birdlandnetwork83]

All good players not on my list though. Can't put them ahead of any of the guys on my list.

[@scottdobson1276]

Top 3 for me are Bonds, Clemens and ARod. Ask me to make the best starting 9 since ww2, I put all 3 on it.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I would agree.

[@luishumbertovega3900]

Dale Murphy, Roger Maris and Juan González were MVP twice each but are not enshrined in Cooperstown. ⚾⚾⚾

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Nope they're not. Very True

[@tonynardini1472]

I totally agree with this list and I guess in time and when all is said and done and the dust is settled put them all in the Hall of Fame. As far as Pete Rose goes you can debate it forever but the way I understand it he bet on his team to WIN. The MLB HOF is based on individual statistics and these players were incredibly great.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thanks for the comments. Great thoughts

[@mongoardath1]

As for Rose, the rule did not differentiate on how you bet. You were forbidden from betting on baseball while working within MLB in any capacity, with banishment as penalty. Pretty simple; he is ineligible and should be. Don't break the main rule when you have seen that posting on the clubhouse door more than just about any other human being.

[@carlazaz1690]

Pete Rose can go in when Bart Giamatti gets up out of his grave that Rose put him in to award him the plaque.

[@Anglovox]

Got one for you...TED KLUSZEWSKI!...Between 1953-1957, he was BEST Total hitter in the National League! FORGET DALE MURPHY!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good player for sure. At least for a four year stretch.

[@eddyscardboardchaos]

Decent list, I would add Albert Pujols and Ichiro.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Pujols and Ichiro didn't make the list because they're not eligible for the Hall of Fame yet and when they are they're getting in. Thank you for watching.

[@eddyscardboardchaos]

@@birdlandnetwork83 sorry, I didn't remember hearing that your list was only players that were eligible. I just went strictly off the title. Either way, thanks for sharing.

[@SteveMccart]

Ichiro would have broke every record in the book if he had played those first years in the US.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was amazing no doubt.

[@tonyrichard7966]

The Murphy should be in

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was good.

[@creaserjim]

What about Curt Schilling?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

His name has come up alot in the comments

[@darrylwillett8359]

The Hall of Fame doesn't take in consideration on how a player affected the game outside the stats.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Fair point

[@DizneyNerdHerders]

Are Curt Shilliing and Tim Wakefield in the HOF? I liked both of them.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Neither are in the Hall of Fame. Wakefield just doesn't have the numbers. Good pitcher and was a knuckleball guy but not Hall of Fame worthy. Schilling on the other hand.....he had good numbers and was really close to getting in. He's off the ballot now (you have to get at least 5% of the vote to stay on the ballot and need 75% to be elected with 10yrs or you come off) because his ten years are up. Too bad. He got really close at 71%

[@arthurmcdermott3312]

Schilling was not voted in due to his conservative views. The voters are a liberal base of baseball writers not actual players. Would be nice if the voters could be your peers. People who play the game not just write about it.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@arthurmcdermott3312 no system is perfect and even with the players i'm sure there will be complaints about ones voted in or not voted in. It's pretty much been this way from the beginning and for the most part they get it right.

[@riverview9320]

13:33 Probably "equates" would do...

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Thank you

[@riverview9320]

@@birdlandnetwork83 🙂

[@mariocisneros911]

It's hard to get in if you played less than 15yrs. Dick Allen 's played just 11 full years and than quit. Wasn't any good after taking 1 or 2 yrs off. There are many I saw from the 1970's who played from 65-85 era who are deserving and more qualified than others on steroid .15 men can be listed, maybe 20. ROSE , T. JOHN, S. GARVEY , WITHAKER , MATTINGLY, GUIDREY , D Stieb , Bernie Williams, Jeff Kent. , K Hernsndez, of course Joe Jackson, Pete Rose. Will Clark

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good names on that list.

[@bamahi7142]

Steroids should have it's own ticket in the hall of fame.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

There are many that agree with you.

[@Brownskidmarksonmyunderwear]

We'll call it The Hall of Shame

[@brianbarker620]

Coincidentally, over half of this list is eligible for the Hall of Shame

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Agreed.

[@MyLumbago]

Dick Allen is a head scratcher. Am I missing something? Did he do something controversial ? He has Cooperstown numbers. Love the list all those guys have Cooperstown numbers and all belong in the Hall of Fame. What are your thoughts on Curt Schilling. Dose he belong in Cooperstown ?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Curt Schilling definitely has a case. Great numbers.

[@fratzogmopars]

Some sports writers didn’t like Allen.

[@Mr-Angelo0U812]

​@@fratzogmoparshis own mama didn't like him😂

[@fratzogmopars]

His White Sox teammates loved him. Heard your mama loved him too.🤣@@Mr-Angelo0U812

[@craigorr9713]

Schilling is a monumental jackass, but on-field performance should put him in.

[@donaldleider7382]

If Rusty Staub isn’t on this list I don’t want to know about it!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

I understand. Thanks for the comment though. Have a good day.

[@donaldleider7382]

@@birdlandnetwork83 you’re welcome Rusty Staub was a Hall of Fame caliber player and a better humanitarian!

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@donaldleider7382 Agreed on humanitarian. Didn't make my list for ballplayer. He's not better than any of the ten I listed. Just my opinion.

[@donaldleider7382]

@@birdlandnetwork83 think about this the only player in history with at least 500 hits on four different teams and he would’ve easily had way over 3000 hits if he played his last five years in the American League as a DH rather than a pinch hitter in the National League. Also the second player in history behind Ty Cobb to hit a home run before he was 20 after he was 40. His longevity was off the charts. All this with no steroids.

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@donaldleider7382 there's a reason he was a pinch hitter and nothing more. Staub is a good player but still not better than the 10 I have listed. Whether he belongs in the HOF or not is not even what this video is about. It's just a list of my 10 best who aren't in. Nothing more.

[@vinylpatrol101]

Dick Allen - never saw him ??? - how was he compared to everyone else in the era he played?

[@birdlandnetwork83]

He was pretty darn good. Plus now he just got elected by the Veterans Committee. He's now a HOFer!!

[@gentkev]

Shoeless Joe like Pete Rose was banned from baseball!,

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Correct.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

1 - Pete Rose 2 - Shoeless Joe Jackson 3 - Rocky Colavito 4 - Smokey Joe Wood 5 - Maury Wills 6 - Richie Allen 7 - Roy Face 8 - Bucky Walters 9 - Heinie Groh 10 - Luis Tiant 11 - Ken Boyer 12 - Tommy John 13 - Don Newcombe 14 - Larry Doyle 15 - Carl Furillo

[@birdlandnetwork83]

Good list

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Thanks . And i even left off Stan Hack , Babe Adams , Steve Garvey , Mickey Lolich , Dale Murphy , Ken Williams Ed Reulbach , Dick Groat , Bill Freehan , Jimmy Wynn and Jerry Grote , players i also believe should be in the hof . And there are even more .

[@birdlandnetwork83]

@@RobertStambaugh-l5r remember though it's the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Everybody. Great players get in only.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

@@birdlandnetwork83 Jerry Grote for defense , like old timer Ray Schalk . Remember , the 1960s was the 2nd dead ball era with all of the great hof pitchers .

[@magicjohnson-o4l]

Bill Mazo should not be in