10 Bike friendly cities you can actually afford

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Күн бұрын

Every year People For Bikes publishes a list of the top biking cities. This year Brooklyn was number one. This made me think: Why are all of the best biking cities also the most expensive?
We worked with our friend Chris Sanders to create a list of the most affordable biking cities in the United States. We gathered loads of data and created a list to share with you guys.
Let us know what you think and if there are any other cities we may have missed. As always, thanks for watching!
Timecodes:
0:00 People For Bikes best biking cities list
1:40 Why are biking cities so expensive?
2:00 How we calculated our list
3:40 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
4:10 St. Louis, Missouri
4:45 Milwaukee, Wisconsin
5:07 Detroit, Michigan
5:43 Sacremento, California
6:10 New Orleans, Louisiana
6:43 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
7:53 Denver, Colorado
8:27 Minneapolis, Minnesota
9:12 Portland, Oregon
9:51 Do your research before moving
10:10 Home values increasing
10:55 Economic burden of car ownership
12:00 Are these things important to you?
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@buddy1155
@buddy1155 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that getting rid of your car is probably the easiest way to save money.
@ex0stasis72
@ex0stasis72 Жыл бұрын
Ya, when I found out that I was spending an average of $700 a month for my 2007 Scion tC that I had bought used over the course of my 6 year payment plan, I realized that if I were to just add $700 to whatever I could afford before, that would open up a lot more options for me. Before that, I was stuck in car brain, frustrated that all the places I could actually afford had no off-street parking. Now, I specifically seek out apartments with no car included off-street parking because I don't want to pay (in my rent) for things I won't use.
@injuredtabletennisplayer1474
@injuredtabletennisplayer1474 Жыл бұрын
Depends on where one lives.
@trystanswansonart
@trystanswansonart Жыл бұрын
@@ex0stasis72 trudat dd the same feel fantastic
@jody024
@jody024 Жыл бұрын
Sadly if you live in a country demolished for the car it can be tricky.
@trystanswansonart
@trystanswansonart Жыл бұрын
@@jody024 I live in what has to be the most car focused city in canada and it is possible, but damn if everyone here says it isnt. nothings for free though you have to change your lifestyle, and I think that's the real issue, nobody wants to move from their current house, but as it happens, you can't live in your SFH community and enjoy a walkable community because they are contradictory.
@huwinner2428
@huwinner2428 Жыл бұрын
I live in Minneapolis. Got rid of my car and bike everywhere - I love it! We’re also taking steps to increase housing supply by reducing parking minimums, up zoning, etc.
@dimitriosfotopoulos3689
@dimitriosfotopoulos3689 Жыл бұрын
Kudos for you, but come winter, they are gonna find you and your bicycle frozen to the pavement.
@ScrublandTV
@ScrublandTV Жыл бұрын
I've been in Minneapolis for 8 years now, haven't had a car the whole time. All bike, all the time, all weather, all seasons!
@djkenny1202
@djkenny1202 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitriosfotopoulos3689 its mostly based on having the correct clothing and sensible bicycle
@mopo366
@mopo366 Жыл бұрын
NE resident here, my car died last fall and I've been car free since, best decision I've ever made, and saved so much money in the past year!
@mbords01
@mbords01 Жыл бұрын
Do you then e-bike; how about when the weather is above 90 etc?
@alec4bikes
@alec4bikes Жыл бұрын
I’m a transportation plangineer, and I can tell you that these bike network plans mean very little. They’re often treated as a virtue signal to avoid truly spending bike infrastructure and instead just act as though they’re working deciding where to build bike lanes, even though they could do that without a consultant. These master plans cost far less than engineering design and construction of even quick-build bike lanes.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Жыл бұрын
And that's exactly where lessons can be learned from the Dutch and Danes. It's far more than just painting lines on asphalt.
@cressidam5208
@cressidam5208 Жыл бұрын
As a Pittsburgher I can say that our master plan might not be moving as fast as I'd like, but it's definitely being put into effect. You can tell because of all of the old yinzers complaining constantly about cyclists and calling the former mayor "Bike Lane Bill" as if that's a bad thing.
@AlejandroRamirez-le2vv
@AlejandroRamirez-le2vv Жыл бұрын
I'm from Hayward CA and after getting me involved in City Council meetings I realized exactly what you said. It's sad but it seems like the only way to make this happen is to require bike infrastructure by law. They always make so many excuses for not building protected bike lanes that I'm really tired of it
@erayapana
@erayapana Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Witnessing this in Long Beach, CA.
@apergiel
@apergiel Жыл бұрын
Alec, Good the see your comment. Years ago I changed my major from urban planning to computer science once I saw that urban planning was a method of packing more cars into a limited space so people could spend & waste more.
@sethfrankel3542
@sethfrankel3542 Жыл бұрын
It would seem to be that average rent for an entire city could be misleading. Many of the cities listed have sprawling areas that aren’t bike friendly at all. Costs may be very different when within a mile of bike systems that make those cities actually bike worthy.
@ir289
@ir289 Жыл бұрын
100%. I moved to one of the cities on this list 10 years ago, sold my car to do it so that I could cycle. After 4 years I found myself with a car again because the bike friendly areas were no longer affordable and the affordable areas are not bike friendly or walkable.
@poochyenarulez
@poochyenarulez Жыл бұрын
I hate how he uses "average" and "median" interchangeable. The guy has no idea how money works.
@AlexCab_49
@AlexCab_49 Жыл бұрын
There's always chasing the yuppies out of places like New York and San Francisco and see reasonable rents again. Tbh I really don't understand why yuppies want to live in big cities when they can easily afford to live in the burbs and own a car.
@Airbender24B
@Airbender24B Жыл бұрын
FACTS.
@AB-wf8ek
@AB-wf8ek 11 ай бұрын
I've lived in Philly car free for almost 20 years, and at this point I can definitely say it's both affordable and bikable. With the money I saved I was able to buy my house.
@deckardstp
@deckardstp Жыл бұрын
As a German living in a southern part rural area I'm really thankful that my county decided to built bikeways next to side roads or highways over the past 20 years. We have a really good net of bike lanes nowadays and I'm often surprised how fast between two spots I can cycle. Hopefully the idea will be also taken into consideration into the cities. Often they are still really car-centric, full of traffic jams and polluted. Thanks to our allmighty car-lobby.
@jackoneil3933
@jackoneil3933 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, I was thinking back to some areas in southern around Freiberg in the Black Forest and was thinking that even without bikeways many smaller cities and towns would be comfortable if not ideal for cycle transportation when compared to the US.
@deckardstp
@deckardstp Жыл бұрын
​@@jackoneil3933 I'm living in Franconia. We're not having this large differences in altitudes, so most villages can be reached comfortably. I agree with you. Since Germany is in most areas densely populated a lot of traffice could be managed by bikes.
@ticnatz
@ticnatz Жыл бұрын
I think most German cities have terrific bike infrastructure (I am specifically referencing Munich, since I live near there).
@eveastardust3747
@eveastardust3747 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the US isn't the only country with an Almighty car lobby! Many places just want to switch to electric cars, but what we need is more bikes and free fast and safe public transportation worldwide.
@jackoneil3933
@jackoneil3933 Жыл бұрын
@@eveastardust3747 Indeed... Is there any place in the world with 'fast and free public transportation? Having lived in Tokyo, public transportation is usually convenient if you live within comfortable walking distance of a train station but it's not always fast and and can be pretty expensive. To travel from my home about 15 miles from central Tokyo used to take a 20min walk to the station, a 15min wait for the train, then with two transfers and typical 1.5 to 2 hours to get form my door to Central Tokyo. Driving about the same time or longer due to traffic, but I could ride that distance on an eBike in less than an hour. However, unless for business or entertainment, or something special, I had no reason to go to Tokyo as everything I needed was within a few blocks of my home, about a dozen restaurants, a dozen or more shops, three grocery stores, and etc. In America, I have to drive 10 to 30 miles R/T to go to one of the few Big Box store like Walmart, and 30 to 50miles for a restaurant other than a McDonald's or Burger King because small business are all but gone. The American solution seems to be heading to online shopping and home delivery.
@xbmarx
@xbmarx Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Portland, university in Seattle, first jobs in Boulder then Denver... and people are always surprised when I tell them Minneapolis is the best bike city I've lived in. Very underrated.
@5DNRG
@5DNRG Жыл бұрын
So true...though winters are brutal. But they can be any place there's snow.
@AlejandroRamirez-le2vv
@AlejandroRamirez-le2vv Жыл бұрын
This videos is probably going to help change that. Minneapolis looks really nice based on this video.
@jackswift4072
@jackswift4072 Жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroRamirez-le2vv Twin Cities resident here. The Cities are fantastic! Winter really isn't that bad here, we're known but it's overdramatized a bit. You should come visit!
@wyattkwapick524
@wyattkwapick524 Жыл бұрын
@@jackswift4072 biking here in the winter really is pretty good still. Compared to Madison, WI which prides itself on being bike friendly, they plow in the cities more and they have built out a lot more infrastructure
@tb5124
@tb5124 Жыл бұрын
They’re probably better about plowing in Minneapolis. I live in Denver and the city isn’t very good at clearing paths and they don’t use salt at all outside the snow belt which doesn’t help. I lived in Madison which I think was way better for biking than Denver but it is also much smaller so maybe not a good comparison.
@matthewbornhorst5655
@matthewbornhorst5655 Жыл бұрын
One other often overlooked part of Denver’s bike infrastructure is our creek/river trail network. This set of trails runs along most creeks and rivers in the areas and is built out with new development. Most are recreational, but for those in the suburbs it can mean being able to bike to downtown without even having to cross many major roads
@patrickedmonstone4712
@patrickedmonstone4712 Жыл бұрын
Biked those trail every weekend. My only complaint with Denver is the drivers.... I'm in China now and it's crazy how much better the drivers are.... I wasn't expecting that and didn't realize how bad the driving was back home.
@matthewbornhorst5655
@matthewbornhorst5655 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickedmonstone4712 I'm out in California for school, and it makes Denver drivers look like saints. Couldn't imagine biking on any of the streets near me with how the drivers act around cyclists here
@patrickedmonstone4712
@patrickedmonstone4712 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbornhorst5655 Bummer, highway one is on my bucket list. I was up in Humboldt County for a while, was blown away when people would pull over and let you pass in the mountains.... that wouldn't happen in Colorado haha. Love California though, if I had the money that's my number one state
@DonaldDickerson
@DonaldDickerson Жыл бұрын
I just road Bid Dry Creek in Westminster to go grocery shopping today. The networks in the suburbs can actually be pretty useful, they take you to quite a few commercial areas.
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare Жыл бұрын
Not just Denver, but some of its suburbs.
@mattgalper5397
@mattgalper5397 Жыл бұрын
Always love seeing my city make these lists! I've gotta give a plug for Pittsburgh. I've lived in the area my whole life, but I've been living completely car free now in the city since the beginning of the year and it's been great. My car was dead weight for the longest time because I barely ever used it so getting rid of it is a huge load off. Just last week I rode my ebike to one of the light rail stations, got on with my bike and then got off at my stop and was able to ride over to my destination. People really underestimate how great this city is for a North American city. There are so many cities that don't have any rapid transit whatsoever yet, we've got multiple forms and are expanding our system as we speak.
@johnparker7760
@johnparker7760 Жыл бұрын
Another Pittburgh bike fan here. Love that every bus can carry 2 bikes up front. Fly into PIT, stick the bike on the bus to downtown and your free and clear to ride rails to trails to DC.
@Summitperry
@Summitperry Жыл бұрын
Its pretty solid. but as a visitor if you get off the trails it gets pretty terrible. PA in general has a pretty great network of trails.
@liamhodgson
@liamhodgson Жыл бұрын
Love from pgh! 🚴
@dudeelduderino9583
@dudeelduderino9583 Жыл бұрын
One thing Pittsburgh will never be short of is Yinzers saying how great it is, and great it is indeed.
@linuxman7777
@linuxman7777 Жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh is great, and so are many of the surrounding towns... But dear god does our geography make transportation hard, our Geography is not just Bike Unfriendly, it is Car unfriendly, and Train unfriendly. We have to put so much more into our transportation network than other flatter cities to get the same or even less mobility.
@-Bloomingtales
@-Bloomingtales Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you addressed affordability. As if that’s not the biggest factor impacting most Americans today, it blows my mind that it’s often not included in the conversation. I’m also glad that you addressed the “median” but there’s a large population that doesn’t even make that much - even with degrees - so yes we definitely have to take into account what is and isn’t affordable. I hate that most cities only seek to improve “bike-ability” in areas where the median income is higher - we really need to make it accessible for everyone and that starts with proper urban planning. Thank you for this video! ❤️
@thejesuschrist
@thejesuschrist Жыл бұрын
9:29 My Bethlehem 2.0 is Portland! During the Summer months there are HUNDREDS of organized group bike rides. It's called Pedalpolooza and it is GLORIOUS!
@SpeedyNautilus
@SpeedyNautilus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout, Jesus! I'm an atheist but I hope I'll see you there.
@Robert-ns2pd
@Robert-ns2pd Жыл бұрын
Jesus, Did you wear your hair in a bun so you would blend in easier? How did it feel to be the only non-white person on multiple rides in Portland? Did you exercise your Jesus powers by doing wheelies for miles at a time? Also, did Babe Ruth make it into heaven? I know he drank a lot but he was good with kids.
@rareaardvark3504
@rareaardvark3504 Жыл бұрын
I just got a bicycle not too long ago so i missed out on all of them sadly
@Frahamen
@Frahamen Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a neighbourhood in Lisbon (Belém in Portuguese). Nazereth is in Belgium though.
@benvoliothefirst
@benvoliothefirst Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, if YOU can't get verified, what hope do the rest of us have? lol
@modsandendsGG-3883
@modsandendsGG-3883 Жыл бұрын
Yo! I didn't know you were splitting your time with Philly. You're spot on about drivers being homicidal. I've been grazed on a couple occasions. A friend of mine was doored. Drivers don't know the rules for bikes and therefore think you're blocking their "right" to drive as fast as they want. The drivers are similarly aggressive to other drivers. It's insane. Even when I'm way over to the right side of the lane (or gutter or parking lane), some cars will insist on buzzing as close as possible to me just to be jerks. Anyway, I'd love to connect and go on a ride together sometime.
@iancho9587
@iancho9587 Жыл бұрын
It's not the stupid drivers, but the city's bike lane design layout... with the tax money they burn, they must send some of their high paid "professionals" on a summer camp to Netherland or London, UK Until then, Philly gonna pretend to have bike network
@StuartJanssen
@StuartJanssen Жыл бұрын
I remember riding out in Conshohocken when I still lived in Philly and some dude yelled at me for being in the road before speeding off, and I saw he had Jersey plates; like dude, I have more right to the road than you do, at least I pay taxes here, lol.
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife Жыл бұрын
In PA it is four feet and slow down to pass bicycles...keep a four foot pole (pool doodle) to your side...
@cebryan333
@cebryan333 Жыл бұрын
Be safe out there it’s heartbreaking society treats cyclists like that! 🚲
@jeremyc4811
@jeremyc4811 Жыл бұрын
People think it’s their god-given right to drive 45 mph to that next stop sign. The same clowns that buzz me, I catch right back up with them two blocks later while they’re sitting at a red light.
@Digital.Done.Right.
@Digital.Done.Right. Жыл бұрын
This is what we spoke about last September, the real life of those with bikes. Love how this is progressing Chris.
@laakkonen6847
@laakkonen6847 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing Detroit on the list. I'm legitimately impressed with their bike infrastructure progress in the last decade, at least in the city center and orbiting neighborhoods. As a metro area, living car free can be pretty difficult. The bus system is neglected and competes with oversized roads that barely back up. There aren't many big box stores in bikeable areas, which makes it really hard to shop for some stuff. That said, the city seems to understand safe biking is not just for the rich, but also an issue of equity. They're working on some pretty cool green ways and protected lanes through the neighborhoods. There's still a feeling that bike lanes are a tool for gentrification, but I hope the green ways help alter that perspective.
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 Жыл бұрын
There's parts of Metro Detroit that are getting better (royal oak, Ferndale, northville for example) but yeah it's pretty bad.
@jeremykrall1694
@jeremykrall1694 Жыл бұрын
As a metro Detroit native (born in the city and used to work there) I was surprised to see it on the list. It sounds like it is getting a lot of credit for plans though, not what is there. You mention big box stores laakkonen, but even grocery stores are hard to come by in the city itself. Kind of strange to hear a city called bike friendly when the only food you can get is from restaurants or convenience stores without a car.
@TheAmericanCatholic
@TheAmericanCatholic Жыл бұрын
I’m late to this I live in warren and I bike a lot we at least have sidewalks but warren is quite sprawled and in crossing intersections is quite inconvenient
@lbergen001
@lbergen001 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy to see young children ~4y biking in Portland.👍👍
@michaelkernan5165
@michaelkernan5165 Жыл бұрын
Chicago should be an honorable mention, rent can be found for reasonable prices if you have roommates or look towards the outskirts of the city, bike lanes are everywhere.
@ryanmortenson9445
@ryanmortenson9445 Жыл бұрын
I really like this idea. I’ve lived in Fort Collins, CO and now in Davis, CA and it’s getting really expensive in both these places. I’d love to see a mid-size town list too! I want to just ride my bike and be able to afford where I live. I now work from home so I’m mobile. Thanks for the video!
@zauwee
@zauwee Жыл бұрын
I’m in Davis as well. Probably one of the most bike friendly towns in the world. But, yeah, it’s expensive for most folks. Cheers.
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 Жыл бұрын
@@zauwee geez Davis maintains its green belt paths poorly though. tree root obstacle course. but yeah, overall enviable. especially when compared to the cycling mediocrity in Solano County.
@kellinbonilla3507
@kellinbonilla3507 10 ай бұрын
Great thought!! I live in Bellingham, WA and the housing prices here have SOARED in the last 10-15 years. It's basically like living in a tiny Seattle or San Fran at this point...
@EMSpdx
@EMSpdx Жыл бұрын
I live in Portland OR- and my good friends, be aware that we do have an affordable housing crisis and rents do not match salaries.
@DaveK385
@DaveK385 Жыл бұрын
I've emailed the city engineer where I live (Liberty, MIssouri) and they say "we are moving as fast as we can". When they build a new road, they usually put in a paved bike/ pedestrian trail alongside it but they haven't done much for existing roads or intersections. ]There is still a great lack of even crossing lights or walkways at large intersections and no bike lanes. On a few roads they put up "Share the road" signs but not much else. I think they've decided that people are cheaper to replace than installing traffic lights or bike lanes.
@benvoliothefirst
@benvoliothefirst Жыл бұрын
Good for you on the emails! I'd be curious what the hurdles are. Are they constricted by the budget? Might be a good reason to get involved in city politics.
@eveastardust3747
@eveastardust3747 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing your civic duty, change always comes from the bottom, never from the top!
@kellinbonilla3507
@kellinbonilla3507 10 ай бұрын
These things definitely take time and effort! Changing the entire infrastructure overnight is pretty much impossible unless you're being funded by a billionaire. The trick is to get your town or municipality to change the baseline for their infrastructure. This means that every time a street needs to be resurfaced, they are expected to update the street to the new baseline. Really good examples would be protected bike lanes (not just a stripe in the gutter), designated car-free multiuse lanes or trails, and even elevated crosswalks which not only allows for easier accessibility for pedestrians with disabilities or folks walking with a stroller or cart but also calms car traffic. I would definitely encourage advocating for a less car-centric baseline and maybe in 20 years your town will be totally transformed!
@jenniferboehm7895
@jenniferboehm7895 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video! My city, Atlanta, has a bad reputation for urban sprawl, traffic, and car dependency. BUT, I’ve seen so many major improvements to bike infrastructure within the actual city and intown neighborhoods where I live in the past 5 years. I hope this is where more cities are heading in general.
@tipsybass7060
@tipsybass7060 Жыл бұрын
I’m really shocked that Madison Wisconsin didn’t make your list. Although it is becoming unaffordable, public transport is awesome there, and the bike trails are awesome as well. Over the last decade, they have implemented more bike lanes on the roads, and more bike racks. I was also surprised that you didn’t mention the tails that span most of Wisconsin (Ice Age Trail, etc). You can literally bike to Illinois and Minnesota on them
@saracynthia
@saracynthia Жыл бұрын
Agree! I live in Madison and bike pretty much everywhere, even in winter. They plow the paths when it snows.
@princerak8881
@princerak8881 Жыл бұрын
its not best tbh i lived there its not good
@princerak8881
@princerak8881 Жыл бұрын
@@saracynthia stop lying
@JBthePAdashC
@JBthePAdashC Жыл бұрын
Yes and yes! I love the route your content is taking! I did not expect a “best place to live list”, but this is the first one that focuses on Strong Towns ideals. This is extremely helpful.
@tedbellWRV
@tedbellWRV Жыл бұрын
I think you have to factor in average income for a specific city vs average rent. Rents in San Francisco and Brooklyn are higher because people want to live there, and people typically get paid more than the national average.
@AlexCab_49
@AlexCab_49 Жыл бұрын
True but the only people who get paid well are the gentrifiers and the working class slowly gets displaced and forces to live in car dependent places.
@AlexCab_49
@AlexCab_49 Жыл бұрын
@@es-zw3mg I 100% agree with you, I'd rather live in San Francisco or New York than in Phoenix or Houston
@robgrey6183
@robgrey6183 11 ай бұрын
@@AlexCab_49 Improve your skills. I hire "working class" finish carpenters at $50/hr
@jacksondoughty
@jacksondoughty Жыл бұрын
I hope and pray that ATL will one day be on these lists. I love my city and I enjoy riding among our odd shaped blocks.
@qolspony
@qolspony Жыл бұрын
St. Louis has been steadily loosing population for a number of years making it more into a commute to city than a city you commute in. But as gentrification sets in, it becoming more attractive with the locals. Besides that, it has a somewhat transportation system especially for a city of it size.
@gregsmith6400
@gregsmith6400 Жыл бұрын
Born and raised by SLU. I left in 2004 for Florida but it was rough when I left and only recommend biking out in the county. Roads in horrible condition.
@alanrose3843
@alanrose3843 Жыл бұрын
Yeah for bikes and bike culture. Thanks for a thoughtful well edited video.
@dustinmcdowell848
@dustinmcdowell848 Жыл бұрын
Just moved to Milwaukee from Denver and got to say I was impressed with the number of bicyclists. I would say there is just as much bike commuting here compared to Denver. It is also much more compact so I can get around the downtown area easier just being a pedestrian. The Oakleaf and Hank Aaron are great to getting to the suburbs. Honestly the worst thing about cycling here is the roads. They are completely atrocious and you honestly should get a full suspension just for road riding.
@5DNRG
@5DNRG Жыл бұрын
And a suspension seat....
@Max-bi8fn
@Max-bi8fn Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Milwaukee!
@aud9851
@aud9851 Жыл бұрын
Can you say Scott holes?
@AbstrDistr
@AbstrDistr 2 ай бұрын
colorado's bike infrastructure is 10x better than wisconsin, even milwaukee
@soniatriana9091
@soniatriana9091 Жыл бұрын
As always, your information addresses many important points to consider! Thanks for another important & impressive video!!
@hikeNbikeCK
@hikeNbikeCK Жыл бұрын
Great points. Thanks for all your research and information.
@drewwilkins9963
@drewwilkins9963 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm so glad you did a video on this topic. We have a long way to go. Thanks for helping us get started.
@brianoldham5362
@brianoldham5362 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this thoughtful video. You are asking the right questions. I am struggliong with my city's transportation assumptions and plans.
@dustinbranham9746
@dustinbranham9746 Жыл бұрын
You're such a great articulator of the great benefit of bikes, and I always appreciate your unassuming approach to this topic.
@13noman1
@13noman1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very useful overall. My wife and I have often viewed other country's biking/mass transit options with envy and wish the US had followed the same model. I'm reminded of an old quote, though: "The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is today."
@zauwee
@zauwee Жыл бұрын
Lots of interesting, useful info in this video! Thanks for putting it together!
@RogierYou
@RogierYou Жыл бұрын
Good research & information. Yes, getting people more comfortable with biking in urban environments takes time 👍
@scmorton8
@scmorton8 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’ve tried doing some of this investigation (affordable bike cities) and appreciate having it pulled together in a well-done video like this. I live near Detroit and can attest to the good work getting done in the city for cycling.
@llevitt4637
@llevitt4637 Жыл бұрын
All your videos are great but I found this one particularly compelling. I'd call it a video essay that covers a range of topics tied together into the theme of cycling. Well articulated and deserving an A+.
@thund3rh4wk
@thund3rh4wk Жыл бұрын
Chris this is fantastic, I really appreciate the national perspective and data. Would appreciate more content on your approach to walking and biking advocacy!
@lillybolduc
@lillybolduc Жыл бұрын
THIS is sooooo important. Thank you going into this topic.
@dennisscanlin6425
@dennisscanlin6425 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks for putting it together.
@Saraseeksthompson0211
@Saraseeksthompson0211 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, and found it very insightful. One thing to consider when you're pulling this data, is to make sure you're using sources that actually focus on income per capita for all of the US, as many sources only focus on a few major metropolitan areas, which have higher incomes overall. The nation's median income was closer to 53,000 in January 2022, when we had to arrange some proposals. In the majority of towns/cities in the us, 50,000 is at the top of possible salary ranges, with others going up to 65k, but rarely breaching it. These same areas have average household incomes of 32,000 - 46,000 a year for a family with 2 working adults. Just a thought, as this was very intriguing to see, and really useful for future planning, but I feel that sometimes we lose site of the 130 million + people in the US who do not make enough to live in inexpensive cities/towns, let alone in a major metropolitan area.
@felipericketts
@felipericketts Жыл бұрын
Thoughtful and informative. Thanks! 🙂
@AdrianCarrPiano
@AdrianCarrPiano Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great and informative video. Food for thought!
@briancollier5145
@briancollier5145 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest a good follow on to this could be smaller towns that are affordable and are bike friendly. As someone who lives on the West Coast, Eugene Oregon, and a number of towns in California come to mind. I am sure there are lots of other good candidates (eg. Boulder Colorado)
@SwiftySanders
@SwiftySanders Жыл бұрын
Also Davis, CA comes to mind... maybe even Folsom, CA or Hoeboken, NJ...
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 Жыл бұрын
@@SwiftySanders if Davis bothered to actually MAINTAIN its extensive network of bicycle paths. But Americans don’t like maintaining things 😄
@SwiftySanders
@SwiftySanders Жыл бұрын
@@brianmiller5444 We Americans have this delusion that stuff maintains itself. They think the money we spend to build stuff is enough and that it will never need maintenance. Maintenance is ad hoc. State and Federal government have to keep passing legislation to do maintenance work and a new budget every year. Why can't we just pass financing for infrastructure in perpetuity.
@scwiggie
@scwiggie Жыл бұрын
Raleigh, Asheville, Savannah, Charleston, Des Moines, Albany NY, Boise
@pokepress
@pokepress Жыл бұрын
Madison is probably on that “smaller cities” list too.
@tito2928
@tito2928 Жыл бұрын
WHat a great Video Thank you. This was real information and helpful for someone that it looks other places to bike ride and maybe live.
@fayecurnow1918
@fayecurnow1918 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Looking for bike friendly city to move to in a few years when we’re empty nesters.
@K_i_t_t_y84
@K_i_t_t_y84 Жыл бұрын
this was very helpful, thank you
@jessegee179
@jessegee179 Жыл бұрын
Great video, and one of your slickest yet! 👏👏👏
@froseph85
@froseph85 Жыл бұрын
Living in Portland, I can say that the sheer number of cyclists has created large side benefits that just isn’t possible otherwise. Commuting by bike incredibly safe when you are going down the street with a group of other cyclists. Most neighborhoods have a local bike shop so you can easily walk your bike in for maintenance and repairs. They also are likely to carry commuter specific gear such as fender, rain gear etc. There are also a number of local businesses that cater to cyclist’s unique needs including insurance agents, lawyers, in addition to cycling gear and equipment.
@kairyurider
@kairyurider 9 ай бұрын
Left the USA 8 years ago. Cycling is 1 of my top 5 reason to not come back. Obviously I think about coming back because I’m watching this video, but 8 years of no car commuting has been amazing and not something I’m willing to lose.
@mistersmith158
@mistersmith158 Жыл бұрын
great video and train of thought more on this in future would be awesome dude love your channel
@SwiftySanders
@SwiftySanders Жыл бұрын
WOW Chris! This video came out really well.
@bloksiepenguin2674
@bloksiepenguin2674 Жыл бұрын
great job, great video
@josemanuelriveroandreusala9273
@josemanuelriveroandreusala9273 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video...Thank you!
@FirstnameLastname-bp5cm
@FirstnameLastname-bp5cm Жыл бұрын
Great vid, thank you
@tomwestbrook
@tomwestbrook Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks
@pizzabw
@pizzabw Жыл бұрын
Very professionally done👍
@wyndward
@wyndward Жыл бұрын
I recommend including a rating factor of inclusion of protected biking in the county roads build requirements. A politician may change the priority for safe biking. Once the county roads office has safe biking in their build and renovate spec, it’s difficult for anyone to remove the standard. #slowburnwin
@Motive9366
@Motive9366 Жыл бұрын
I live in St. Louis City and pretty much bike everywhere. There's a lot of great infrastructure in the works. It's very affordable too. Great city for remote work. One nuance the video didn't cover, the county bike plan he mentioned only pertains to St. Louis County which is completely separate from the city of St. Louis - a city independent of a county.
@PunchingCacti
@PunchingCacti Жыл бұрын
St Louis has a homicide rate higher than the worst third world countries. You couldn't even pay me to travel there.
@jimspies2775
@jimspies2775 Жыл бұрын
@@PunchingCacti That's a perception problem, that is skewed by the above mention of the STL city-county split. One homicide is too many, but the perception that STL is any more "dangerous" than any other city is just wrong.
@georgekarnezis4311
@georgekarnezis4311 Жыл бұрын
yeah I was thinking about that when he said it and it's such a weird thing to explain. But its vital that both city and county step up their game. Thankfully GRG has the ability to operate county, city, and ST Charles. the network effect really makes places more bike able.
@Cold417
@Cold417 Жыл бұрын
@@PunchingCacti That's okay, they don't need you there. Stay in your basement, where it's safe.
@yotagang3705
@yotagang3705 Жыл бұрын
been riding my ebike for almost 3 months full time and the number one thing that i have found is that i see more things im more aware of whats around me. I have a truck, I can afford driving my truck, I own 3 vehicles and I always choose the bike, its so much fun
@didgineil
@didgineil Жыл бұрын
Outstanding research, so insightful and thought provoking strategies. Your so right the more we talk about this growth and I guess vote with pedal power, more cities will embrace and consider switching from the from patterns of repetition from years of ‘just because’ attitudes. Building more infrastructure helps create new cultural, challenging the norm and hopefully development new conversation. Really rich investigative exposure, please continue with these topics, they aren’t discussed enough. If anyone can bring around change I know you can. Fantastic story, thank for sharing
@krokatoamonster7365
@krokatoamonster7365 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content. I live in the hilly city by the bay. We do have a good bike lane network, not great, but as a full time eBiker, I can see the potential in any city to adopt the simple idea of just get out there & enjoy the bike ride!
@wallacehowery6414
@wallacehowery6414 4 ай бұрын
How do you address homelessness, when there is an endless stream coming to your community from other less hospitable communities? Say all the red states put homeless in jail, the homeless leave the red state, move to some place where they receive some benefits, then the word gets out, and more and more homeless end up in the blue city.
@matt6740
@matt6740 Жыл бұрын
I was in Milwaukee for a bit this summer and I was really impressed with the bike infrastructure!
@MattHaide
@MattHaide Жыл бұрын
Great info! I also have to say, great filming quality considering you're riding around the whole time! And it looks like much more than just an insta360 or something due to the depth of field. Color me impressed!
@kikomorse
@kikomorse Жыл бұрын
great video topic, excellent data analysis and good on-bike shooting, you've earned yourself a subscriber
@kikomorse
@kikomorse Жыл бұрын
hey yo @propelbikes, check out for scammers
@craigtorso
@craigtorso Жыл бұрын
Sacramento is so good as a cyclist! Forgot to mention the truly massive, fully protected bike/ped American River Trail that not only runs through beautiful green space, but cuts right through so much of the city and suburban sprawl that it essentially serves as the city’s bike commute highway.
@nelsjustason9559
@nelsjustason9559 Жыл бұрын
Chris absolutely well done video, excellent production quality. You have presented a good number of considerations for choosing a city to live in, with transportation via bicycle and public transit being at the top of the list. North America has some way to go to get up to the level of a number of cities in Europe for bicycling transportation infrastructure. You are outlining the positives not just as a cyclist but as a community building person and the obvious interest in climate considerations. Your enthusiasm and non-lecturing style I am certain will attract many more to this much needed conversation.
@Mraquanetchris
@Mraquanetchris Жыл бұрын
Ex Philly Bike Messenger here. Lots of paths, narrow streets. Have your head on a swivel. Drivers have no patience, he's not exaggerating.
@mariospenard5125
@mariospenard5125 Жыл бұрын
Well done Informative video
@quijadriss7650
@quijadriss7650 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I love the way you explained your scoring system. I'm kind of curios about applying this to cities all over the U. S. I'm sure many are wondering where their city scores.
@ComfortRoller
@ComfortRoller Жыл бұрын
Thankyou, this is helpful information. I also imagine the surrounding cities might be a good option, like Vancouver wa. Is a beautiful ride across the river from Portland. Especially if there is public transport available.
@davidgill2520
@davidgill2520 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Montreal, great video. At least we are seeing cities adding and improving these needs. The cost of living as we know is going up everywhere. It also helps to have the local politicians and mayors into the needs of a safe city as does Montreal. Take care
@qseaton5770
@qseaton5770 Жыл бұрын
I live in the Indianapolis area and I love how walkable and bikeable it is here especially the downtown area. It is also pretty cheap to live here we pay $1500 for a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom home.
@Southpaw128
@Southpaw128 Жыл бұрын
I love the content man, keep it coming! One suggestion I have is to define average rent by an apartment type (ie. one or two bedroom). Average rent seems all encompassing and can prob vary a lot between cities that have more of one housing type over another.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've just subscribed. It's encouraging to see 'The Movement' analyzed from a cost of living aspect. All your points pertain internationally too, albeit starting from a different base. By that I mean the way of life not owning a car is not as negatively impacted in European cities with inherently better cycling infrastructure, but there again, the European cities with the best infrasctructure are also comparatively expensive to live in. (Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc)
@spookypineapple
@spookypineapple Жыл бұрын
Portland's great, I lived in Corvallis for a decade and took my bike up there quite a few times. They have some HILLS, but an E-bike and/or massive quads will get you up them. They're pretty lacking in places to park though, especially if you have a nice bike and need more protection from thieves.
@nateums
@nateums Жыл бұрын
I ride to work in Denver, it’s nice to have protected lanes, they use concrete blocks to separate bike lanes from car lanes on existing roads. We also have nice multi use trails
@NicksDynasty
@NicksDynasty Жыл бұрын
Great list
@Chris-dx4mf
@Chris-dx4mf Жыл бұрын
I’ve been planning to more to Portland for a while so thank youuuuu
@Cain-x
@Cain-x Жыл бұрын
I like that note on Philly drivers. I think PA drivers in general are just... really aggressive and wild. Speed limit signs are not just suggestions, they are just useless ornaments in that state.
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been to almost all of these places many times. Pittsburgh and Denver are the answer. Pittsburgh has been discovered, and it’s getting harder to find deals. Denver is only affordable if you are willing to live in a pre gentrification area. If you can buy in one of these, you can do really well. Problem with the numbers is that median income in huge cities higher than elsewhere. I lived near San Fran in the 90’s. I worked for an out of state company and I was instantly aware I was being ripped off. Quit, moved to Houston, made nearly same money and went from below middle class to upper and home owner in a few years! So, if you really want to live in NYC or whatever, do research. You may be able to make it happen. There’s a reason the most expensive places are more bike friendly- density. Super desirability (usually driven by earning potential) creates more density and higher prices at the same time. It also leads to big government and corruption, and - bike infrastructure! 😂🤣🤣
@jjohnson5014
@jjohnson5014 Жыл бұрын
Good topics!
@utoobnoob100
@utoobnoob100 Жыл бұрын
I love your overview of each city’s master plan. I would love a video doing a deeper dive into different city’s bike plans. That would probably bore a lot of people to death though lol
@halleradam
@halleradam Жыл бұрын
Combining my interest in housing finance and biking infrastructure. Excellent video!
@Tickle..Tipson
@Tickle..Tipson Жыл бұрын
Great to see my city at #2! Definitely earned that spot. Not having to own a car allows you to spend more on a nicer apartment too, so I got a nice spot in West Downtown and bike to work every day (weather permitting, but in those instances I just take the bus)
@Xhadp
@Xhadp Жыл бұрын
Super glad to see my hometown area on this list! Portland is indeed really affordable and bike friendly. The weather is also really kind to us in the PNW as well. One thing I'd say though is that your connections can only get you so far. Like going across the Columbia for example, the is awful and will still be with the I5BR for bikes. The Max can also be very time consuming as well if using public transit. A car is also a great way to get out and explore the world of the PNW like Hood and the coast. So you probably shouldn't ditch your car just for a bike just because you live in one of these top spots.
@Yoshikarter1
@Yoshikarter1 Жыл бұрын
Portland has an Amtrak station which is an alternative to driving in order to branch out of the city.
@findsharon
@findsharon Жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see STL on this list. Missouri has been lagging behind in bike infrastructure, but it sounds like they're finally working on it. We have more to offer than just the fabulous Katy Trail.
@jeremychristofferson7129
@jeremychristofferson7129 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I currently live in Denver and bike as much as I can. They are doing a lot to improve bike infrastructure, especially downtown. We still have a ways to go when compared to European cities. They have done this in certain areas of Denver but the low hanging fruit to protecting bike lanes would be to move all vehicle parking next to the traffic lane and allow the bike lanes to be protected in between the parked vehicles and the curb. Especially along busy roads. Short term there is no need for construction, just painting crews. Long term concrete barriers or curb would be nice.
@srhorwitznj2
@srhorwitznj2 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I live in Philly and I am surprised it ranks so highly in being bike friendly.
@wallacehowery6414
@wallacehowery6414 4 ай бұрын
I think it's good for 'serious' cyclists, like racers, but probably not for normal people, unless you ride on trails.
@FrankLadd
@FrankLadd Жыл бұрын
I spend time in two places. One is a city and it's very easy to get around to the basic stores by bike and has 120 miles of greenways. The other is a smaller town and it does not have infrastructure but you can go most of the places on neighborhood roads and avoid traffic while going a bit slower. So neaighborhoods with 25 mph speed limits that are strictly enforce are bike infrastucture in a way.
@apologiaalcibiades2227
@apologiaalcibiades2227 Жыл бұрын
25mph limits and bus lanes that drivers respect are better than bike lanes, which will always be filled with debris and idiots
@jameskennedy7093
@jameskennedy7093 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize you were spending time in Philly. Good stuff.
@robertroot3790
@robertroot3790 Жыл бұрын
You're right...there definitely are correlations between cycling-friendly cities & property prices.
@davidguiney1746
@davidguiney1746 Жыл бұрын
You talk about the best weather. I live in Miami and I cannot cycle anywhere without needing a shower. Cool weather, once it's not raining, is ideal cycling weather
@Paddystyx
@Paddystyx Жыл бұрын
A great video.
@popingcorn100
@popingcorn100 Жыл бұрын
Love hearing about Philadelphia, if you happen to do some more bike rides while you're out there for work please film!
@hayterrlgmailcom
@hayterrlgmailcom Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dgmithril
@dgmithril Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this list! I also feel better now about moving to Denver next week for school. But one thing I want to point out about Denver is that their mass transit agency (RTD) does not allow ebikes (or e-scooters) on their buses and rail.
@tonih4674
@tonih4674 Жыл бұрын
That's a shame. Without bike-on-bus I don't think I could be carfree.
@monteriggs8327
@monteriggs8327 Жыл бұрын
Air quality in Denver is one of the worst large cities in the country and some days the worst in the world.
@daviddaugherty1861
@daviddaugherty1861 Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue I feel with Denver's bike infrastructure is the lack of secure/safe areas to lock your bike. Bike theft here is out of control.
@DaveGrahamOrg
@DaveGrahamOrg Жыл бұрын
It is true the rules for RTD were originally written to keep Mopeds of the system and have not been updated. I think on of the issues is there are hundreds of busses (maybe thousands) which were outfitted with bike racks pre-ebike (Denver was ahead of the game there) but these setups are not rated for the additional weight if loaded fully with ebikes. My guess is it will take years to upgrade if the money can be found. Until they can universally support ebike I expect the ban to continue.
@joem2548
@joem2548 Жыл бұрын
Great list. I live in Oakland, which is improving its bike infrastructure every month, the only downside is Bay Area rents are pure insanity. Anyway, I'm looking forward to visiting and exploring (by bike!) many of the cities on this list.
@gljames24
@gljames24 Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to move to Longmont, Colorado so this sounds great!
@shadesofgray5476
@shadesofgray5476 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be nice if there was a national system of bike trails so people can get from one place to another on bike. Also, it would be nice if Greyhound/Trailways buses had bike racks. It would make it easier not to own a car. Also, lots more places to charge up a e-bike.
@adamkarcz8644
@adamkarcz8644 Жыл бұрын
I've really started taking advantage of the close proximity to my office. Granted I do still motor into the office more than I bike, but being able to ride or run into work at least once or twice a week has burdened my car less, saved me money on gas, and helped me maintain my health. Atlanta is trying but has a long way to go to make it a great city to ride in.
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