10 Kickstarter Board Games I Absolutely Regret Backing​ | Biggest Mistakes

[@davidmirman6929]

Intro cracked me up because I was thinking "didn't you do this video already" and yes you did. I appreciate and enjoyed your honesty on these and your decisions.

[@Spyryt193]

The delivery date for all of the Stormsunder was March 2022, but the first wave was supposed to deliver March 2021.

[@ortizlzitro]

Ooooph! I’m glad I dodged the bullet. I was way too hype when I discovered this hobby in 2020 and late pledged once I realized I could. After two years, I read the update that they were closing the pledge manager and that you could request a refund and refund request I did

[@DMBuc2k1]

I'm 100% with you on Atlantis Rising. I wanted it three years ago, but since then I've gotten other co-op games like Return to Dark Tower that I really like and not sure I would table Atlantis Rising over it.

[@boglesby]

I appreciate the honesty with Mythic. People keep saying they never saw this coming or there weren't any signs. Joan of Arc and Solomon Kane were enough signs for me that it was a company to avoid because they didn't have their act together. Really sad, because their games seemed to have so much promise. They ran some of the best crowdfunding campaigns, but needed another company to actually do the development and publication of their games.

[@adilgeresu2296]

I know this sounds terrible but each time i see a list like this I’m like “phew dodged a bullet there”. Thankfully I’ve managed to continuously reduce the number of games I back as the larger my collection grows the less I feel a need to get every add on/exclusive/expansion as the chances of me getting to extra content gets smaller and smaller. If I do go crazy for a game it’s better to get scalped for one game than X number of backs I need to protect from that. And nowadays games are so readily available or get back to crowdfunding at some point that it doesn’t worry me.

[@mikeysboardroom]

I am right there with you on 6 Siege. I am still undecided on whether I will pay the extra money or not. I was all set to do it and then that $99 slap in the face has given me pause. Glad I avoided Chai Tea for 2. The problems in their other campaign made me hesitate at the time. 🤙

[@Tharukan]

Haha, quite optimisitc to think Mythic will even be around in 2 years to ask for more money for Hel :D That ship is sinking fast!

[@GameBrigade]

That's true lol

[@quvadisjean]

We’re all there with you. Oddly comforting !

[@MerrillWhiteKalEl]

Totally with you on Atlantis Rising. So frustrating that an expansion, that was supposedly already done, just needed to be printed has taken this long. I have had multiple options to get the base game cheaper, but was not available at time of backing. All around regret for me as well.

[@CMartMatross]

I’m with you, I was also frustrated with the KS. I think I might try to flip on BGG.

[@Twineandribbon]

Great video. I still think your advice to not back games for other people is spot on.

[@WisestMongoloid]

This is a great series. A very useful self-reflection that will help other backers, like me...

[@IndianaGeologist]

Really enjoyed this video. Love your transparency

[@longtimeninerfan1309]

Thanks for this video. Bringing up the questions you did is important: Is it the type of game I typically enjoy ( and/ or my game playing circle of people)? Will I have time to play the game? Do I have the storage for it? Is this FOMO driving the purchase? I did purchase Santa vs. Krampus and I am pleased with its quality, reasonable price and the delivery in the promised matter of months prior to Christmas 2022. I knew it it would be a light hearted dice battler akin to a one step up from King of Tokyo. Easy to teach and play in 45 minutes. I like the silly and seasonal them. But I have no desire to purchase any other Dice Throne set. I’m good with just this one. I think you’ll be able to sell your copy at least to cover your overall cost and hopefully at a profit. At this point, I do not believe it is being sold at retail outlets and may never be. That’s cringe worthy to hear that some of those games are nearing the two and three year marks and yet to be delivered.

[@lyg]

Thanks for the video 🙂 Edit: This video did help me reflect on my backings as well.

[@xlxNIMBUSxlx]

Thanks, I really like your advice (I have already taken some of it to heart, like not unwrapping games, where you are uncertain whether you will play them at all) and overall thinking about your current collection before buying new games.

[@joshualee6197]

Oh I feel you on the grand campaign games. I laughed due to the fact that I also have Isofarian guard, tanaers adventures, and chronically of drunagar. Along with Gloom and frost haven, roll player adventures, tainted grail, with a couple of others. So many adveture hours, too much life in the way 😂

[@dnaseb9214]

Monumental is a great game honestly. One of my favorites

[@GameBrigade]

Haven't gotten my pledge still. Hopefully soon

[@dnaseb9214]

@@GameBrigade How ? I got it from the store down the street along side both expansions. I have it for close to a year now.

[@GameBrigade]

@@dnaseb9214 because they haven't shipped our Kickstarters yet.

[@dnaseb9214]

@@GameBrigade That is crazy. The combat is simplistic and the only negative I have with the game. I suggest printing or using the unit and formations cards from Thru the Ages.

[@joshyaks]

Thanks for your honesty in sharing these regrets! 2023 marks the 21st year I've been deep into the hobby of modern board games, and $900 for a game just might be the craziest hobby-related thing I've ever heard! (That being said, I stepped away from Kickstarter in 2019, before prices really started to go off the rails.)

[@GameBrigade]

It's weird how we justify the cost on KS, but in person I'd never do that.

[@Footrot13]

No one seems to know how good edge of darkness is. I love it.

[@BreinGames]

You’re highlighting all the reasons I don’t do ks. Ill buy games on eBay. I don’t mind paying extra for games. I don’t like waiting over a year for a game. Then the risk of getting delayed even further. Company asking for more money. I just wait for something to be released and buy on secondary market.

[@TheErnieforss]

I regret doing all in on village attack. It hurts to much knowning i jusy lost $570

[@sebastienvivas9319]

Hopefully my Stormsunder all in pledge pays off.

[@mr_boom105]

Edge of darkness is insanely underrated.. it should really be higher up on bgg.

[@GameBrigade]

I really need to play my copy

[@beornthebear9023]

I agree I really enjoy it though a lot of content just in the first kickstarter

[@morgaknightgames]

I'm in on Darkest Dungeon and Hel, so feeling the Mythic Games pain. I did get wave one of DD, but am not confident I'll get the rest. I am really hoping Hel happens, as the premise of that one I find very exciting, but am resigned to never seeing it. I also went all in for Stormsunder. I think they just REALLY underestimated the work required for such a heavy narrative game. I'm confident the first wave will deliver, but I'm afraid we won't see the second for a very long time.

[@Camj41]

I have an all-in for Lavon Rising. I think I'll be keeping my pledge and hoping it delivers.

[@kylemoore7746]

same, tbh. I only went the bottom tier pledge on SS, which I'm pretty sure will deliver at some point in the next 1.5 years, as I'm not confident in the second wave stuff being worth another 2-3 years wait.

[@dankone1289]

I feel for ya man. I late pledged the Neverain, paid the ransom, got the game and have no desire to play it ever. Got my all in on Tanares which was a dumb idea when I saw all of the boxes when they arrived. Waiting on the stupid Atlantis Rising expansion as well, I like the base game but probably won't play it again. Heck I'm still waiting on the Street Masters expansion that's been sitting in a warehouse in China for the last couple years.

[@blink625]

I brought Village Attack Grim Dynasty put in couple hundred dollar and didn't even get a game. The company decided went to insolvency (bankrupt) The company name is Grimlord Games, The owner Adam in Kickstarter said he only own 50% of the company. He later went on to another company called artefact selling Dice Tomes Vol 2.

[@garyduddell3224]

I backed Anastyr on Day 1 all-in for $200, 5 weeks later when the pledge manager opened the all-in was $800 so I cancelled and I am so glad I did but more by luck than judgement. Like you I have all-in for Stormsunder and also Wild Assent but I think I will ask for a refund on both this week and final realise it's going nowhere. WA had an update in December 22 saying fulfilment will start in May and then nothing until the last day of April when the update said 'we don't think we will make it and it will likely be end of the year' !!!!!! 1 day before fulfilment is supposed to start.

[@ThePhiloctopus]

You were right, Dice Throne is Roxley

[@Copterman]

Cool thoughts buddy

[@CheddahSlammer]

Funny, because I have many of these as well. Got All of Stormsunder, got All of Wild Assent, and Edge of Darkness. Also while I didn't get Hel, or Six Siege, I still got Monsterpocalypse, Darkest Dungeon, and Anastyr. None of them I really regret yet. The biggest regret for me is Rally Man Dirt from Holy Grail games and my 257$ All-In Gearhead pledge. No option to even pay more money, company straight up bankrupt because they didn't want force backers to pay extra. You still stuck us without the game though, and if you charged 20$ for every backer you would have had enough to pay you shipping fee. Honestly makes me feel the opposite of the Mythic situation, even though were being forced to pay extra, we still might get the game at the end of the day, as opposed to getting nothing.

[@BbBb-zx6sx]

Stormsunder for me and I late ordered, pre-ordered Solomon Kane after it shipped. Still waiting for it.

[@ellyari]

The edge of darkness one is quite funny, because its quite difficult to get in europe. I do feel like big euro games sell really well in europe, especially if they have great visuals/etc like edge of darkness.

[@DVCBear]

My 2 biggest regrets are going to turn out to be Hel and Anastyr. On the edge right now with Stormsunder and Dawn of Madness. Besides those just the overall idea of backing way too much.

[@HussBuss44]

Oh man, storm sunder, #1 I here yeah. I kept mine as in theory it will be the greatest game I have ever played... it it even comes and deliveries its promise. I used to hang out in the discord even had some good conversations with the creator.. but shit just gets depressing after so long. Reason for keeping : I did manage to finish chronicles of drugolor and its freaking awesome and that was 1.0 ! - Have a great day

[@derraldlosey1118]

Backed Hel, if I get it I will decide if it was a mistake. All in for Dawn of Madness and am not concerned at all.

[@odiedodieuk]

I was sooooo close to backing R6

[@blueseqperl]

Roxley Games does publish the Dice Thrones series

[@GameBrigade]

Thought I was going mad

[@yamahkogribbis6212]

Kickstarter regrets... Blood on the clock tower... Turns out i dont have THAT many friends...

[@GameBrigade]

You know I originally cancelled my BoTCT copy and after playing it at dice tower west had to own it. I then started a local group and have had several events at my house. I had to be comfortable letting new people over, but so far it's been a great success.

[@yamahkogribbis6212]

@@GameBrigade that's really good to hear! There's a gaming store about a half hour from me where they host all kinds of games on Tuesday evenings. I've never attended but I hate seeing this thing on the shelf for month after month. Gonna bite the bullet and try to meet new people tomorrow.

[@briant2438]

Stormsunder is something I am considering trying to get a refund on. The last update seemed to indicate it will be another 2 years until delivery... That long of development time i doubt they will be financially stable. They cant even deliver Lavon rising

[@AdamJorgensen]

I feel you on Atlantis Rising. I almost backed the whole thing on KS but ended up just going for the expansion and getting the core game in retail. Good decision, I ended up disliking the core game intensely (funny, because I like co-op and worker placement but AR is just random dogshit) and was able to get a refund on the expansion :-)

[@82ndmi]

Me for 4 years : evervail me now : WOOO EVERVAIL. Dawn of madness is probably going to be a bit of a mess. the last one was years late and the guy went and wrote books and did audio projects which is probably eating his time. The current build is at least more coherent, but I'm going to say it will have good for boardgame writing looking at his work. Weirdly some of these 3-4 year late games are some of my favorite games. your mythic games are pretty much gone. I will say hel was AMAZING at demo, but they reworked it like you said. be prepared to repay for it. The issue is they won't have staff for the rest of the games, they wont have testers, they won't be getting much funding back, everything is going to get worse.

[@SeanUCF]

I know what you mean with the Kickstarters that take so long that you lose interest and probably have gotten other games during the waiting period that you have other games that fill that niche now. I backed Heroes & Gods: Masters of Dreams and now they are asking for money or lose out and I also backed Onimaru. Both are co-op games and i have more than enough of them now and don't need anymore at this time.

[@GameBrigade]

So what do you do? Comfortable enough letting go of the game and lost money or pay up for a game you're Luke warm with now.

[@SeanUCF]

@@GameBrigade I will get a refund if possible and if the refund isn't too much less than what I originally paid. It also depends on how much the game was originally. Another factor is if I feel like I would rather sell one of those games that I currently own that fills that niche to make way for the eventual arrival of the game I'm waiting for. With regards to companies asking for more money or lose the original pledge, it really just boils down to how much the original pledge was and if I can reinvigorate enough interest in the game again. I really just take it on a case by case basis.

[@BillySpenc]

Dawn of madness I almost back but it just didnt seem interesting by KOA preview and come to find out they completely had to change gameplay and I feel that even if its good it wasnt good for them to kickstart it so soon.

[@creamysmooth79]

Anastyr, as I will probably never see it, and Bardsung (While not that bad I doubt I will ever get it to the table again). Trudvang I haven't received yet, but I have a feeling that I might regret that one too.

[@rayfrederickjr]

Didn't he do 6: Siege on his first video?

[@jawsvvvvv]

Atlantis Rising I have set it up two times and never finished either game. Lost interest...waiting for kickstarter to show up to sell it.

[@raceofrobots9152]

Stormsunder is gonna deliver *taps red shoes together*

[@tonymartinez3434]

I’m on the same boat with 6 siege

[@gs24-xor]

Chai tea for 2 has more updates but in the comments section, weird but it does, anyhow there's no ETA for delivery

[@koppfrosch7439]

on kickstarter you dont need a good game, you need a good presentation and a lot of great promises. due to the fact, that kickstarter is now a legaliced scam site, backing is a high risk action today. its bad for all the good companies out there but i think kickstarter/gamefound etc is done. it was fun as long as it lasted but now its over.

[@Valen-D]

couldn't disagree more. KS and Gamefound are going no where.

[@CheddahSlammer]

disagree based on the amount of games I got vs the ones I didn't get. 200 vs 1.

[@lynnbowers4722]

People seem to forget that crowdfunding is not purchasing, it's investing and investing has risks. There are bad actors, scams, and incompetence. All you can try to do is Invest wisely and well informed and take the losses on the chin.

[@shawnturpin197]

I also regret buying Edge of Darkness. I got the all in pledge and have no effing idea how to play. I've watched a couple how to videos and read the rule book and still don't understand how to play the game. I think the rulebook is garbage.

[@paulb2474]

Oh man , I'm still waiting on 3 of those, hel, 6 siege and Atlantis rising 😢

[@Berndr]

Interesting I have not backed any of these games ... I was thinking though

[@GameBrigade]

Dodged some bullets

[@Berndr]

@@GameBrigade There is still time... I am currently backing about 30 games ... I was lucky up to now with my pledges, all my games arrived safe and sound and I like them all ... I think The Witcher is the one I waited longest for, but even that is supposed to arrive any moment now ... I heard people having a really bad experience with Kickstarter I can't say I did, except I hate that I am instantly charged tax and postage even though the game is not due for 2 years lol ...

[@Newt211]

I regret Mythic battles pantheon. It has never hit the table. - The complete set

[@GameBrigade]

Rag just showed up at my house

[@ortizlzitro]

For me, it's Bardsung, Mosterpocolyps from Mythic. I late backed Stormsunder and requested a refund before it was too late. Just seems like it's dragging and I'm worried I won't get my game. And my interest has waned since I backed. I also requested a refund from Marvel United Multiverse. I shouldn't have backed it and I knew that. I back the xmen one and I have plenty enough marvel united content. I took a 10% hit from CMON to get my refund but a las, who hasn't been burnt in this hobby?

[@mobileuploads3623]

Marvel United Multiverse will be amazing when it delivers. Such a well run campaign.

[@ortizlzitro]

@@mobileuploads3623 probably will be but I’ve got enough marvel United. Plus shipping, the new content wasn’t exciting enough for me to justify the expense. No doubt it will be fun.

[@BoardGamesBooksAndWhat]

Did you back Madeira? That Kickstarter is suspiciously resembling 10 pounds of poop in a 5 pound bag.

[@GameBrigade]

I didn’t back this one.

[@HarleyFirestorm]

Dawn of madness is due to be fulfilled soon :). Well wave one.

[@mtga]

I'm waiting for Hel and Darkest Dungeon wave 2... I refunded part of DD.

[@simonb4689]

My worst one was black Rose war

[@dumas8112]

🐺

[@GameBrigade]

🥰🥰

[@Paul-ro6py]

Have to agree with Atlantis rising. Backed both the base game and expansion. Still waiting and have lost interest.

[@thorstenschleer8593]

Kickstarter regrets... oh my. On the sinking HEL ship as well, we'll probably never see this game. Another big regret is Trudvang, haven't unwrapped wave 1, it turned out such a crappy game. Not sure if I regret ARCS by now, but I've seldom been so unsure of the development direction of a game. Kickstarter lost so much attractiveness over the last years I might get rid of that addiction, which might be a good thing after all

[@GameBrigade]

Hey bud. Yeah I totally am in the same boat. For the most part I've gotten great experiences from KS, but the burns suck so much

[@JohnPasay]

Give me all the board games you don't want then. 😆

[@zenster1097]

Hey. I know Night Mode is great. But it doesn't make for the best viewing experience. Just something to keep in mind. Other than that, great video.

[@GameBrigade]

What night mode are we talking about?

[@zenster1097]

@@GameBrigade I thought you are recording with your screen tinted without blue light (blue light makes you stay awake and many displays have a night mode that removes blue light and gives the screen an orange tint so you go asleep and don't stay awake all night). You could have it on after a certain time. Check your settings on windows (>display and then >night light if Windows 11).

[@GameBrigade]

@@zenster1097 ah. So the tink you are seeing is a color correction for my camera to fix the colors of my face, but because of that it has to distort the other whites. I either have to have a really blue washed out face or a little tint on the KS pages. I go with the tint.

[@simonb4689]

You are a massive part of the problem

[@GameBrigade]

😭

[@simonb4689]

@@GameBrigade the truth hurts, I know. Sorry!

[@seansmith2650]

The fact that you gave mythic the extra money is on you. Sunken cost fallacy. 700 dollars for a board game is borderline an irresponsibility with money.

[@GameBrigade]

I did literally say that in the video.

[@Twineandribbon]

Lol. Say that to all the warhammer, ccg, and lcg players.

[@dennycrane4558]

Dice Throne is Yatzee on steroids/cocaine...no more no less indeed. I Sold it after not finding the deep Strategie deepth i Was expecting. But whoever looks for a nice (over)produced dice chuckler can have fun with it..

[@dandanita1692]

Bryan ever thought leaving the kickstarter culture ? How about you start playing board games and dont play kickstarter ?

[@GameBrigade]

I play quite a bit of games and talk a lot about stopping buying new games. It's like a main point of the channel