Not every vehicle is right for everyone or every use. We have owned pickups and muscle cars each for it’s own specialty. Our long range Model Y is a great car. 20 months old 20,000 miles. A half dozen trips over 600 miles round trip and one over 1400 miles. When local we charge in our garage 8cents kWh or free from solar. We have never had issues on the road. This car is the best car I have ever owned. Cheap to operate, maintenance is nothing, fun to drive. Not for everyone and every situation but really good fit for many.
@imac1957 Жыл бұрын
Agree. I have had my model 3 for 4 years, and have done just over 165,000 km and could not be happier for the same reasons.
@EarthyLee Жыл бұрын
Come back and comment on Year 11.
@GDM22 Жыл бұрын
@@EarthyLee Year 11 weird, how much is an 11 year old ICE vehicle worth and at that point how much is it costing to keep on the road.
@imac1957 Жыл бұрын
@peterhicks5590Lots actually. If you want to carry more than one bike it is best to have a bike rack on a towbar. Picking up a load of gravel from the garden centre, or taking a load of rubbish to the tip, or helping children move house with a box trailer are all very easy with an EV. Many of the EV owners I know have tow bars. What are your "good reasons" for your doubting? If you need to take a caravan 1000km into the outback in a single day you are a rare use case.
@stevehayward18543 ай бұрын
@@GDM22 I have a 12 year old Nissan Leaf, in perfect condition still doesnt need repairs or servicing
@vinn794410 ай бұрын
Bought my 2020 honda insight with only 8 miles from a dealership. So happy I went hybrid instead of full ev. No problems for almost 4 years now. Not a single problem :)
@markell59810 ай бұрын
Do a 600 mile round trip 5hrs bet you can't 😅
@vinn794410 ай бұрын
i can do 500 tops still good if you ask me! @@markell598
@DuncanHewitt708 ай бұрын
@@markell598 The Honda 2020 Insight is a hybrid, like they said - it can do over 500 miles (551 according to the blurb). Our 2017 ICE Toyota Verso can only do mid 400s on a tank. A hybrid makes sense if range is a worry.
@PhoenixTTD Жыл бұрын
As a rideshare driver, I did a long study of EV's to determine if they were right for me. Uber had a promotion paying an extra $1 per trip to make it more attractive. After the study, I decided it was not worth it for several reasons. Some are listed in this video. Here are some more: 1. Fast charging reduces battery life. 2. Driving over 65MPH reduces range. 3. Cold weather (I live in MN) reduces range. 4. Battery takes a long time to warm up in the cold and further reduces range or uses your power. 5. Use of climate control reduces range. 6. Manufacturers prefer to replace rather than repair batteries making them more expensive to fix. 7. Most EV's have low ground clearance. You will bang the bottom of your car occasionally or more often in an icy winter. In an EV, you will be banging the expensive battery. (Last winter in MN, I knocked the skid plate off my Camry twice. You have a different experience when you drive everywhere rather than just your normal routes.) 8. Sometimes you cannot buy whatever tires you want meaning you cannot get the best winter tires. 9. Useable range is probably half what is advertised. (You need to regularly drive between 80-20% of capacity per manufacturer's recommendations and then reduce that based on everything else discussed.) 10. It costs much more to charge during the day if you drive at night. 11. There is no reason to think you can get several hundred thousand miles from an EV like you can from several cheaper cars. 12. Long repair downtime costs income. 12. Cheaper EV's (still more expensive than practical vehicles) tend to be RWD. They are much more expensive to get FWD or AWD. And here are Tesla-specific problems: 1. Touch screen windshield wipers are an automatic no. It is unsafe in conditions that require constant adjustments, and no automatic windshield wiper system will be good enough. This isn't just a preference. This setup should be illegal. I say this as someone who regularly drives through entire storms rather than someone who occasionally makes a short trip in the rain. 2. Touch screen controls for everything else are also problematic. I need to make adjustments as customers make requests in all traffic conditions safely. Touch screens are not safe for that. I could say no, but windshield wipers stand out as one you must use. I shouldn't have to say no since every other car manufacturer offers the necessary features properly. 3. Door handles and doors without a top frame freeze in the winter. 4. I don't want to have to explain to every drunk passenger how to open the door. 5. Tesla has a policy against rideshare drivers using super chargers. It is not currently enforced, but it is in writing so they can enforce it as demand for chargers increases. When you say you bought it for rideshare in protest, they will tell you their policy was published when you purchased it. 6. A "frunk" that breaks if it is closed hard is unacceptable and will break inevitably. I don't know if the car is undrivable while you wait on that repair. It is hard to find a good deal on a newer but not new EV. I would rather buy a 2-year-old Camry getting 35MPG, drive it 2.5x's longer than a Model 3, and pay less than half as much with virtually no unscheduled maintenance.
@Henry-gl8ud Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Now I'm prefer using hybrid ICE car 😊
@PhoenixTTD Жыл бұрын
@@Henry-gl8ud those are much better, but it is difficult to find a good deal on one if you buy 2 years old. It is good if you choose to buy new. If you search, you can sometimes find a really good deal on a regular car.
@BHPGH Жыл бұрын
Your thoughtful research-based input should be at the top and read by everyone!!!
@shink984411 ай бұрын
Agree that a lot of choices are examples of form over function, especially the touchscreen controls, and lack of frames. Sure they make it look and feel all futuristic, but when driving day in and day out rain or shine you just want what works and is practical. The argument is that to get people into EVs you have to appeal to them, and it seems that a decent portion of the population are attracted to form over function type. I’m with you though. Touchscreen windshield wipers are a blocker all by themselves.
@kylebriffa710 ай бұрын
That's damning! All valid concerns. I could add a couple more of the top of my head but what's the use? Everyone should have are made his mind up
@fm19242910 ай бұрын
I have an EV for 4 years now and I am very satisfied. No problem at all, everything is OK. My next car will be an other EV.
@tammyrobinson52498 ай бұрын
Where do you live? If your in a warm climate year long then they are okay but living in Canada or a cold climate area then they are massively unreliable.
@leedouglas70807 ай бұрын
Im sure the children mining for your batteries will be well chuffed
@stevehayward18543 ай бұрын
I have had EV's for over 7 years, no expense on repairs or servicing, great to drive, I will never go back to an unreliable, expensive to run ICE car. They are such a faff to drive, with an EV you just press the peddle to go and lift to stop, pure one peddle driving
@jaysphere75192 ай бұрын
@@stevehayward1854how many of your family members and friends agree with you?
@degreedmeteorologist16582 ай бұрын
@@leedouglas7080 But you're OK with those same children mining for the Lithium in your laptop and cell phone that you're typing your comment on, right?
@ManningBruce-f4x Жыл бұрын
I have had an Ioniq5 for 2 years and am scratching my head with most of your problems. No issues with tyre wear, low servicing costs, no problems with any aspect ofthe car and its performance, exactly the same insurance costs as my petrol car, range displayed on screen is very accurate, no issues with public charging (to be fair i do have a home charger as well). Of course i share the concerns with the life of the battery, purchase price and resale as a consequence but at this stage i am going along, very quietly, for the ride!
@davemay77976 ай бұрын
The comment section is here for people who nothing about electric cars telling everyone the batteries going to die, the car will catch on fire or the classic my work is 1400 miles away so an electric car won't work for me
@richardhobbs71076 ай бұрын
@@davemay7797 - You are so right, Dave! So I shall not comment on my flawless 2015 Nissan Leaf I bought in 2017 for $9K. I am retired, so long commutes don't come into play. Keeping the battery charge between 50 to 75% is indicating after 7 years ownership no appreciable degradation with average trips less than 20 miles. Charge at home off my backyard solar system and have only had to add washer fluid so far. So for a retired person an EV is likely the perfect car. take care, rh
@ravindrapersaud76085 ай бұрын
Haters bro. Just see a poll. They hate with no actual stats. Just sheep.
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
Yes people I know like to explain my Model y to me. It’s fud.
@SnBsM3T Жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint is the publicized range, specifically from Tesla. I have 14,155 miles on my Model 3 SR+. When I bought the SR+ it said the range was 240 miles. Not even close. First, I cannot charge to 240 miles any longer, the max is equal to about 90% or ~215 range miles. Oh, the display says I charged to 100%, but the miles say differently. But wait, it’s worse. For every actual mile I drive, I consume 1.3 to 1.6 range miles with an average 1.5, depending on driving conditions and ambient weather. This mean when I charge to 100% and it shows 215 range miles, on average I can only get ~150 actual miles. A far cry from the 240 Tesla said I am supposed to get. Tesla says to limit charging to 80% for day to day driving. If I charge to 80%, I only get about 125 actual miles. Therein lies the problem, just as ICE vehicles have a city/highway MPG on their MSRP sticker, EV’s should also provide estimated actual driving city/highway ranges and not an overall range, nobody gets 100% of the range as published on the MSRP and website, if they say they do, they are lying. These estimated actual range values should be on every EV so potential buyers can make an intelligent and informed decision before they buy one and find out the real range is a fraction of what the mfg tells you on their website or MSRP sticker. I will likely never buy another EV. BTW, great video!
@rchender Жыл бұрын
I drive a 2016 Toyota Prius IV Touring (my 2nd....first was a 2006 Prius top of line). The sticker on my 2016 said 49/51 if memory serves me correctly. At this point my actual lifetime average mpg, summer and winter (i'm in northern NY) is 58.7 mpg. I don't baby it or try to hypermile like some Prius nutjobs do....I just drive the thing and put regular gas in it. I'm retired so I don't drive a bunch....only 25K on it so far. The 2006 was still going strong with all systems go at 126,000 miles in 2016 when I sold it privately. I only had to replace the front brakes once in that one and the tiny 'starter' battery...about $260.00. Thusfar in my 2016 I've had to replace the now-larger 12v 'starter'' battery twice so far--the larger battery that Toyota used and that the dealer replaced it with both seem to be junk. Tires on both cars were LRR and the former got good service life. I will not be going plug-in hybrid OR electric --my gas hybrid works great and has ultra low emissions as well as great fuel economy.
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
@@rchender Thank YOU for your honest opinion. The ONLY thing I would get is a Hybrid.
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU For your honesty! Exactly what I thought.
@mostmost1 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense.
@rchender Жыл бұрын
Real descriptive comment there mostmost. Tells us nothing about what you feel/believe. @@mostmost1
@frankgiuliano380 Жыл бұрын
We live in NE Florida and had to go to NYC for a wedding. Thrifty Car rental only had Chevy "Bolts" ... I loved the pick up and general drive. But we had to charge it before returning the car. Every charging station was a slow charger.. we waited 1 hour for 25 miles! Also, the first 2 stations were not working. At home we would install a charger in the garage, but for anyone in an apartment or condo, the charging is a real issue.
@TeslaDawg Жыл бұрын
That's why I went with Tesla. They have a reliable charging network and the cars are designed to be charged fast. This should change in the future as the other car manufacturers adopt the Tesla charging standard.
@waynepurcell60587 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDawgFast charging degrades the battery faster. For someone like me who keeps a vehicle for 10+ years that's a REAL issue.
@TeslaDawg7 ай бұрын
@@waynepurcell6058 - Studies show no statistically significant difference in battery degradation between those that fast charge frequently and those that don't.
@moorefacts66056 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDawg I'm a hybrid owner and I've seen differing opinions on this primarily because a fast charge heats up the battery. So I guess it depends on the auto design.
@severnsea6 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDawg Fake studies most likely. It's the chemical composition of batteries that defines how they react and perform, and heat is one of the biggest killers. The faster you charge, the more heat produced. Batteries have always had the same problem regardless of the appliance they're used in, they degrade with age. If people think that EV batteries are any different they're just being sold on the hype unfortunately. You cannot change the laws of physics.
@thelastpilot4582 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations you are the first person on KZbin who acknowledges that most people cannot afford an EV. All the News Papers, Governments etc. Ignore this. Well done.👍👍✔✔
@paulstough299511 ай бұрын
My 2023 Chevy Bolt cost $32,500, certainly affordable for most people who are in the market for a new car!
@thelastpilot458211 ай бұрын
@@paulstough2995 Oh yea how many Mc Donald's workers could afford that. American workers living in cars how would they afford them.
@paulstough299511 ай бұрын
@@thelastpilot4582 It is true people who are making low wages cant afford even an EV prices at $32,500. However, I dont believe people working in low wage jobs can afford ANY new car. Which is another whole problem, the fact that there are so many people working for such low wages! as more and more EVs are made, there will become more and more used EVs and prices for used EVs will decline. It seems to me that so many of the EV naysayers seem to believe that we have reached the max in technology in EVs, whereas I believe that we are still in the infancy of EV development. Look at how far the development if ICE vehicles has come in the well over 100 years of innovation and change.
@gssf.gr2911 ай бұрын
@@paulstough2995 Not a lot of car for that sort of money though. There's no way I'd spend that on a small hatchback, especially here in the UK where we don't have anything like the sort of disposable income that you have in the US.
@gssf.gr2911 ай бұрын
@@paulstough2995 Which means that every new EV produced today is going to be out of date by the time it hits the second hand market and people won't want them, given the cost of replacement batteries they will eventually need. That's why you can buy a Nissan Leaf relatively cheaply, although it still costs way more than the equivalent ICE car of the same age. Most of those against EVs are against them because we don't believe we should be forced into them. Nobody forced anybody to buy a Betamax VCR or an iPhone, regardless of whether they were better or not and it's the same with EVs given that there is little to no advantage.
@brucejohnson1264 Жыл бұрын
With an ev, you only save fuel cost if you charge at home. Any time you charge at a public charging station, the cost per mile is about the same as using gas.
@shanenestruck8 ай бұрын
TRUE But why would you charge anywhere but at home... except on long trips
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
Supercharger from central ky to Miami. Average 2.25 a gallon eqauvilent. What’s gas cost right now?
@keitha.9788 Жыл бұрын
Here in the Northwest, if you get into an accident with a Tesla, you may wait 6 months to get it repaired, even for a minor accident...
@7s29 Жыл бұрын
That's better than being in a carbeque
@Drcraigfreeman Жыл бұрын
Don’t get into an “accident” problem solved 🎉
@nickhummer5775 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Been there done that 🤣
@user-rm8rc1xi8g Жыл бұрын
Good. Let them evs people deal with it.
@karelglasner267310 ай бұрын
A neighbor bought a brand new EV truck and then I noticed that it was gone for several months, and he was driving some car 😂 and finally it appears he got his brand new truck back from the shop
@michaelwinkelman7165 Жыл бұрын
Many insurance companies have issues with EVs. My neighbor bought a new EV Cadillac and had an electrician install a charger in his garage. Agent asked for a picture of charger he sent it and a couple weeks later the company said he had to remove charger from the garage to outside at least 25 feet from any structure. 🤷♂️
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
And which insurance company is that? Because nearly all insurance companies unanimously agree that EV’s are 20-60 times less likely to catch Fire spontaneously compared to ICE cars.
@michaelwinkelman716511 ай бұрын
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 That's totally wrong I deal with insurance companies everyday
@michaelwinkelman716511 ай бұрын
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 You can claim your input all you want but facts remain EV insurance is higher than combustion engine vehicles
@michaelwinkelman716511 ай бұрын
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 Live in denial and Merry Christmas to you and yours. 🎄
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
@@michaelwinkelman7165 then why do lost auto insurance companies have published on their websites independent studies they’ve commissioned that reveal EV’s are 20-60 times less likely to catch fire and to have those numbers corroborated but safety regulators across the globe like the American NHTSA and the Australian AANCAP safety board.
@user-fp6iz7lp9g11 ай бұрын
My fear concerns the resale. If I decide to buy a Hyundai Ioniq ($55,000 Cdn) as an example and want to sell it 4 or 5 years down the road, I would expect to get maybe $15, 000. However, anyone wanting to purchase it would have to kept in mind that the battery replacement after 8 years or 160,000 km will cost about $51,000 with tax. Who in their right mind would buy a used electric vehicle. Even the cheaper Tesla batteries run $13,000 to $22,000.
@davidallen553510 ай бұрын
So in 10 years the EVs will have no value. There's no sustainability here. Environmentalists are going to be terribly disillusioned in 10 years when the junkyards are full of EVs.
@ElMistroFeroz10 ай бұрын
If you want to flip something, buy a house, not a car (any car).
@blueplanet10489 ай бұрын
Your numbers are all over the place. You exaggerated your numbers by a huge number lol. Little to negative
@sparky79159 ай бұрын
Well when it gets close to the time that the batteries will have to be replaced then you likely would not be able to sell the car for very much money.
@blueplanet10489 ай бұрын
@@sparky7915 there are Tesla’s out the that have hundreds of thousands of miles on it. If the battery isn’t supercharge 24/7 meaning you kept the health good and charged mostly at home you can drive a million on it.
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
Wow, the anti-EV FUD is strong with this video. I own both a 23-year old Lexus and a one-year-old Ford Mach-e. I've put 20,000 miles on the Ford and have had zero issues. The idea that the tires wear early is crap. I've seen no more wear on mine than on the Lexus. Also, the battery "issue" does not exist. I have a vendor who purchased a ten-year-old Tesla with 130,000 miles. The battery had degraded about 10%. He took it to a repair shop, and spent $1,000 to update the battery with more range than new and a five-year warranty. Just curious what oil company is behind this video.
@HALWG51 Жыл бұрын
You people are delusional. You would never admit how badly they suck.
@rayshepherd2479 Жыл бұрын
I've owned a Tesla P85DL for 9 years and 95,000 miles. I really like the car but it's been expensive to own when you include the initial cost, even though I have free supercharging. I have spent more on repairs than most of my ICE vehicles. The range is down by around 15%. It also appears my car is only worth about 20% of what I paid for it. Hybrids make much more sense overall unless like me you love the acceleration of EVs.
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
@@rayshepherd2479 valid points! i wonder what repairs you've had. Can you elaborate?
@rayshepherd2479 Жыл бұрын
@KaiPonte The latest was $2,500 to replace the air conditioning system, which also conditions the battery. Most of the other repairs were covered by the warranty. These included rear drive train failure, main screen replaced, and mcu update. Other out of warranty has been 12 volt battery and broken handle. On my ICE vehicles, I can easily replace the battery but not on the tesla. I did fix the handle for under $30, but it took me a couple of hours. Now I still like the car and infact, just purchased another model S because I like the performance and the new one has a much greater range. It was also less expensive after a large price reduction. The only thing I don't like on the new car is stockless turn signals.
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
@@rayshepherd2479 ouch!! I honestly am glad I haven't had these issues.
@wolfshanze5980 Жыл бұрын
My previous car was an ICE SUV. Wasn't ready for full EV. Bought a 2023 Tucson Hybrid about a year ago. Very happy owning a Hybrid.
@doriangray6985 Жыл бұрын
How many miles do you get on the battery?
@wolfshanze5980 Жыл бұрын
@@doriangray6985 There's ICE, Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid and EV... I only have a Hybrid, so the electric engine kicks in automatically here and there to save on gas, but usually only a mile or two at a time, depends on what you're doing with the gas... the purpose of a Hybrid is just an ICE car that has better gas mileage and more torque... the PHEV version of the Tucson gets something like 30 miles on Electric if I recall correctly. I love my hybrid, just cuz it's basically an ICE car with great gas mileage and instant torque... i fuel up at the pump far less often than when I had an ICE car.
@stuartde Жыл бұрын
RECOMMENDED STATE OF CHARGE Yup, general advice is to keep your battery charged under 80%. Failure to do so has little to no consequence, except for increased risk of degradation. Advice also includes charging to 100% for long trips. Real EV drivers do both.
@mteifke Жыл бұрын
This applies more so to lithium MNC batteries, lithium fepho batteries can be charge to 100% with little degradation and a longer life with a slightly lower energy density Also test have shown that dcfc a battery once a month or so can help extend the life expentancy
@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Жыл бұрын
they do....
@timallison856011 ай бұрын
i've driven an ev now for 4 months. not one issue. zero. none. i do not expect the car to drive itself. i am perfectly capable.
@Nick_S1 Жыл бұрын
They are not perfect, but I've experienced only one of these issues with my 2018 Model 3 long range with 33k miles. No range anxiety, very little battery degradation (-10 miles) , zero issues when using superchargers, still on my original tires (my previous Acura burned through tires every 20k miles) . I had one recent repair of the power conversion system costing $1900. I would absolutely purchase another Tesla, but will keep one gas vehicle as well
@jaimieconroy36 Жыл бұрын
It was mentioned that Tesla would not be facing the same challanges that the legacy automakers are facing. Tesla has been making EV's for many years and has built an infrastrucure around their brand. Ford ,GM, Toyota, etc. are just beginning to build EV's, and they don't know what to do. They can't produce these cars in the traditional way and make a profit, so they are overchargimg customers who purchase their ICE vehicles to finance their EV division.
@Yagami_Returns Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised on the 20,000 miles. Mine are 55,000 and just got a pass from a tire shop inspection and rotation.
@OtisFlint Жыл бұрын
@@GNMi79 Lol $320 is less than transmission fluid costs for my Audi. You've never had ANY repair bills kiddo.
@sparky791510 ай бұрын
You made a lot of valid points. Recently an EV owner needed to get the batteries replaced. The vehicle had a little more than 160 000 km on it. He was quoted $50 000 to replace the batteries. Another EV owner also needed new batteries. He was quoted $20 000, In either case the repair costs are so high that the car owner ends up throwing the car in the garbage. China makes EV cars too. The major brand in China is BYD. They are expanding into the world market now. They are priced well below most other EV"s. The most important point you made was that these vehicles are new technology. So it is anybody's guess which model to buy. We do not know how long the batteries will last. Lastly I did not consider the insurance cost. Tx. for mentioning that. Well for now I will stay with my gasoline powered vehicle.
@ubolsueathet12019 ай бұрын
Maybe the China ones are cheap but when its time for a replacement battery i expect it to be an expensive overall, the battery maybe cheap but having someone to replace it is where the cost will mount up.
@sparky79159 ай бұрын
Maybe the China batteries are cheaper. A whole bunch of batteries may have to be replaced and it is a lot of work. Therefore it is so expensive you may end up throwing the car in the garbage. @@ubolsueathet1201
@grifiinsullivan60348 ай бұрын
Didn’t read go sharks
@Kdeez6178 ай бұрын
yea BYD is a scam did you see that giant ev graveyard in china with thousands of cars, they don’t even buy those ev’s
@doggy9118 ай бұрын
@@ubolsueathet1201yep, just like a gas engine.
@brentgarlick960511 ай бұрын
One thing that wasnt mentioned is Safty. Ev batteries can be tempermental. Some have been known to spontaneously catch fire. If this happens the vehicle is consumed in flames very quickly and the fires from an EV is very hard to put out.
@moorefacts660511 ай бұрын
EV batteries are not like cheap batteries used in Chinese scooters and E Bikes.
@BigEightiesNewWave11 ай бұрын
spontabiously What is that?
@wolfguardian831211 ай бұрын
Yeah, Exothermic Reaction that 'ya can't extinguish...
@moorefacts660511 ай бұрын
@@wolfguardian8312 Hardly occurs
@paintedpony293511 ай бұрын
Just dont buy a G M EV. You'll e safe.
@littlestar5737 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased honda civic for daily commute. No thanks to EV. Honda has awesome reliability and inexpensive maintenance.
@shaunmckenna1923 Жыл бұрын
I have had my EV for 15 months and I have driven 30K klm I am 100% happy with the car ( Genesis GV60 ) I live in BC Canada and we have lots and lots of EV charging stations . I just drove from Vancouver Island to Calgary Alberta and back I never had to wait to charge at any charging station and the best part they were all free fast charging Chevron On The Run are all free charging . As far as the tire wear once you get past the novelty of the insane speed and power and just stay in the Eco mode you will have normal tire wear and much better range .
@benstr815611 ай бұрын
Perhaps you'll consider a long trip to New York City? Manhattan has a couple of charging stations and more in other boroughs. Just hope when you need charging there is no one ahead of you.
@Neofolis Жыл бұрын
Some of these points will not apply to many people. I've owned an EV for 15 months and in that time I've used a public charger twice, despite doing over 20k miles per year. In my case, both times I used a public charger there were no issues and no need to download an app, although I accept that this won't always be the case. In terms of range variability, the same is true of ICE vehicles. My previous deisel car used to get about 70mpg in the summer and 50mpg in the winter, although again this totally depends on how you use the vehicle and what your climate is like. My maintenance costs have been far lower with an EV. Mine is a Hyundai, as was my previous deisel vehicle. Both vehicles were supposed to be services every 10k miles. The deisel I would get serviced every 10miles, so over twice per year, which in the UK would cost me about £1000. My EV I only get services every 20k miles, because 10k seems pointless and after the first 20k miles all I was charged for was one hours labour as there was nothing that needed doing, cost £165. I use the same tyres as I did on my deisel. The cost is £10 more per tyre, because I use the high load version. Previously I was replacing the tyres every 20k miles, whereas now it's about every 15k miles, so it was about £360 per year and is now £530 per year. My insurance was about the same in the first year of ownership, but has gone up £60 for the second year. Apart from the fact that the overall maintenance has cost me a lot less, I also save £250 per month on fuel, but my overall cost of ownership is very similar between the two, because of higher monthly finance costs, due to the higher purchase price. In my experience ownership has been a totally painless experience, although I am part of a very small niche group for whom I think EV's make financial sense, that is people who do higher mileage, preferrably exclusively around town, but who can almost always charge from home. This will not be the case for most people who will either do lower mileage or will make up their higher mileage with longer journeys on faster roads. I still think the biggest problem with EV's is the fact that being a new technology there is always the possibilty that there will be a breakthrough that renders current EV's obsolete and worthless.
@daves2624 Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen.
@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest about your experience and situation with regard to EVs. They are NOT for everyone. But they are suitable for people in certain situations, and you mention some of those -- home charging, local driving, etc.
@gssf.gr2911 ай бұрын
£1000 to service a Hyundai diesel? I've never paid over £350 and I drive a Jag. As for range, a 20 mpg drop in the winter, I don't get that. I don't know what mine is, using heated seats, a/c all the time, screen heaters and so on and I've never noticed any significant drop in range so it can't be much and absolutely nowhere near 20mpg. You also didn't include the depreciation factor. That said, I don't particularly think it's price that's the number one thing that holds people back as anybody who can afford a new car can almost certainly afford a new EV. Value, on the other hand, is another thing entirely.
@severnsea11 ай бұрын
@@rgroove1970 That's EXACTLY what I keep saying to those raving about the cheap Chinese EVs that are on the way, I've challenged the Chinese to come back in 10 years and tell us how good they are then. Needless to say I've had no takers. Makes me laugh how EV owners get through a year with no problems and think it's something special, some sort of achievement - maybe it is for an EV. My car is 15 years old next year and got through the year with no problems. Same last year etc. These will be bad for the environment in the long term because when they get to 10 years old they'll be scrapped. Who is going to buy a 10 year old EV knowing that at some point during their ownership it's that much closer to needing new batteries, or motors, or heat pumps etc; all expensive components.
@sped6954 Жыл бұрын
A big drawback for me, not even factoring in the actual cost of the car itself, is how to charge it. I've heard that most of the time, and obviously it can vary, you're probably looking at no less than half hour to charge to 80%, with a full charge taking ridiculously longer. How would I be able to charge though? I would have to do public pay charging stations since I live in an apartment complex and have zero hope of charging overnight. And don't even get me started on that recommendation to only charge up to 80% capacity thing. Why? Why is it recommended to not fully charge your vehicle? As it stands right now, I have a Blazer that I absolutely love having, in spite of the fact that it gets pretty terrible mileage. I fuel up once a week, on Friday evening on my way home from work. Five minutes, and I'm gone, full to the top. What if I could only fill its tank to the 80% mark, or if my fuel tank was 20% smaller? I'd be filling up to go around 200 miles, roughly equivalent to what I could expect of an EV, except it would still take five to six times less to fuel up than an EV. If my tank was 20% smaller, how much less time would it take, maybe a minute or two, three at the absolute most? Because who wouldn't want to sit around at a public charging station for half an hour on their way home from work on Friday? Short answer... Me. I wouldn't want to.
@teekay_111 ай бұрын
Well, you're not supposed to charge them to 100% or you decrease the life of the battery. And don't get them under 20% because.... you guessed it, you decrease the life of the battery.
@severnsea11 ай бұрын
@@teekay_1 Yep, so you are only effectively getting 60% of the usable capacity. Winter is going to be fun for a lot of EV owners, with drastically reduced range they're going to have to charge en-route, almost certainly at lower power. Which means sitting in their car during rain, sleet, snow and whatever else the weather throws at us while the car charges. Imagine it starts to snow and you have to stop for an hour to charge your car to get home? You might not even make it out of the service station by the time it's done. No thanks. Funny thing is you still seem to get EV owners that think this is somehow more convenient than stopping to fill up with fossil fuel for 5 minutes. Maybe we should start installing outside toilets again too, it has to be more convenient than going upstairs to pee, right?
@teekay_111 ай бұрын
@@severnsea especially now that the climate is returning closer to "normal" for much of the US, which means much colder winter north of DC.
@Mr_Spock51211 ай бұрын
45 minutes is assuming there's no one in line in front of you charging their vehicle ... bring a book, you could be a lot longer sitting there. Also in cold weather, you'll have to run your heater in order to defrost your windshield (and not freeze to death) ... that's will kill your battery (and driving range) even more.
@severnsea11 ай бұрын
@@Mr_Spock512 Exactly. But the EVangelists never tell you about that. Bet it's not in the brochures either.
@trailrider0194 Жыл бұрын
One thing not mentioned is that in some states if not all it is more expensive to register an EV.
@timmadler78414 ай бұрын
Other states offer vehicle registration DISCOUNTS for EVs as well.
@jeffruebens8355 Жыл бұрын
Buying a PHEV and charging it at home overnight makes a lot more sense for most. Or save more up front and buy a used hybrid. Toyota hybrids are often reliable to 175 thousand miles. A short drive to work will save you a lot of time and money.
@TuanPham-yp8gb Жыл бұрын
Correct but if you keep driving a short distance and the engine unable to perform their role then … will be a problem too. Engine under performing can cause more trouble ( this is my opinion only)PHEV
@danharold3087 Жыл бұрын
But you still end up maintain the engine and a more complex system in general. If it has to be a toyota. Toyota plans to start producing electric vehicles (EVs) in the United States in 2025. The company's first U.S.-assembled battery electric vehicle will be a three-row SUV. Toyota also plans to start production at its first battery plant in North America, located in Liberty, North Carolina.
@ericinla65 Жыл бұрын
INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS on my home and charging station at the same time (So I don't have to pay to charge my EV). Solves most of the problem charging except when I'm traveling on a long trip. Which I almost never do. My office is only 14 miles from my home. So driving range is not a problem.
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
Well good for you... ROFLMAO!
@UAIqbal83 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome, I’m planning on getting a solar roof in a few years to get the free charging as well. I was actually looking into getting the shingles that have the solar panels built in since I will need new shingles anyway and don’t want to put anymore weight on my roof.
@jasoncrandall Жыл бұрын
How much did your solar panels cost?
@jasoncrandall Жыл бұрын
@@UAIqbal83please post the price of your solar roof
@UAIqbal83 Жыл бұрын
@@jasoncrandall I haven't gotten them yet, I said I was planning on getting them in a few years. From what I'm being quoted though, it's looking like $20 - $30 thousand depending on the size of the system.
@stevensauvageau8827 Жыл бұрын
Some of these youtube channels tell only one side of the story. Greatly appreciate covering both sides.
@carhelpcorner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Phil42069 Жыл бұрын
So true
@donaldpiper9763 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a neighbor that owns a Tesla. Today I was going to the mail box and he was screaming on the phone he kept saying never again,never again . I asked him if everything was alright,he told me that his Tesla had quit working and he had to h😮ave it towed to the shop. He’d just got a call from them telling him that his battery was fried and it was going to cost him $32,000 to replace it and some other stuff . His warranty was expired and it wasn’t worth anywhere near that . I felt sorry for him as I looked at my car and thought no way in hell , no way in hell .
@jamesjoslin7586 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldpiper9763Thanks for talking reality.
@davidallen553510 ай бұрын
Here's two that I just learned about recently. The batteries will not charge when they are cold. They have a battery heater built in to keep the battery warm, and yes they drain voltage and shorten your range. If you park overnight in 20 degree weather not on a charger, the battery will get too cold to charge. And it will then have to use the remaining battery power to heat the battery before it can begin charging - the charging stations don't provide power to heat the battery. You can get into a situation where the battery is too cold to charge and there's not enough juice left to heat it enough. Then it tow truck time. The second thing is that if an EV is in a wreck that may have sent shock waves through the battery, they have to replace it. The impact may have jolted a connection loose inside the battery and there's no way to open the battery to find or fix it. Without fixing it, the risk of fire greatly increases. This is also why insurance is so high because repair costs will also be high. Imagine taking an $80K car for service and it costing $20K. That's 25% of the cost of the whole car!
@jvaillancourt Жыл бұрын
The statement that you could be replacing your tires 2 to3 times more often with an EV is unfounded and in my opinion totally false. Based on my experience and what I have been reading the extra wear could be more in the order of 20% for average drivers . So, this is not a major problem (unless you abuse a lot of the extra power often available with EVs)
@Drcraigfreeman Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with that, it is a false statement, my 450 HP 4wd Chevy pick-up is heaver than my Model 3 and it doesn’t eat tires unless I keep using the gas peddle as an on and off switch.
@kalebdaark100 Жыл бұрын
You have two people giving you unsubstantiated reports that the tyre change statement is false and apparently one other unsubstantiated report elsewhere in these comments telling you that it's true. That you chose to go with the one report is an interesting choice. As another EV owner I can tell you that, unless you drive it like you stole it, your tyres will wear a little faster than an ICe vehicle but changing them 2 to 3 times more often is total rubbish. @@GNMi79
@plusblood5101 Жыл бұрын
Well ok Let me put it this way Most ice vehicles can go And buy the cheap azz tire And go about But not with ev tesla The sheer weight of that ev Will eat those cheap tires Thats a proven fact.
@kalebdaark100 Жыл бұрын
Did the creator of the video actually say he had an EV? @@GNMi79
@kalebdaark100 Жыл бұрын
Your statement "But not with ev tesla The sheer weight of that ev Will eat those cheap tires" is an interesting one. These numbers are from the relevant manufacturers web sites. Tesla Model 3: Length 185.8" or 4,719.32mm Weight 1,765 kg BMW M3: Length 4,794mm Weight 1,805 Kg Similar vehicle sizes similar weights. Interestingly it's difficult to get the weights of other similarly sized cars. How are you proving you fact? @@plusblood5101
@jjwalker8682 Жыл бұрын
I have had a Tesla for two years, and my wife has a Defender we have a the gas ride if needed. I don’t think I could go back to a gas-powered car. I charge 99% of the time at home.
@aceroadholder2185 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the vehicles are very nice, but not many families can afford to have $150,000 tied up in automobiles that are losing value every day.
@jjwalker8682 Жыл бұрын
@@aceroadholder2185 my Tesla was 50K though. The prices will come down. Small cars for urban environments not giant electric SUV long haulers that’s foolish.
@davidreidenberg9941 Жыл бұрын
S#
@WordsMatter1982 Жыл бұрын
@@aceroadholder2185some people don't have money to buy a car at all. Do you think about them when you drive your car? People buy what they want/afford.
@Ian-mv4qq Жыл бұрын
My biggest concern for now is that I drive on highways for about 120-150 miles one way a few times a month. Sometimes, the destinations are not a city with plenty of charging stations. I don't want to have to stop somewhere (for 30-40 minutes to charge) on the way home because my range of ~200 miles are not enough for my entire round trip. Anyone's got similar experience?
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
Plan accordingly. If I go out to bum fuck outback, I just take my truck.
@Ian-mv4qq Жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 Agree. That means EVs are still not practical beyond city driving.
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
@@Ian-mv4qq Honestly, it all depends on how much battery you want to carry around. Same can be said for fuel tank size. I used to have a hotrod with a Buick Nailhead that got 9mpg off of a 12 gallon aluminum tank.
@Ian-mv4qq Жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 That's true but at least with ICE you can get gas almost anywhere evem in the mountain.
@mocheen483711 ай бұрын
My friend commutes in a Tesla all highway driving and is normally an hour each way. He has 140,000 miles on his Tesla and only changed his tires.
@mapruitt11 ай бұрын
I've owned a Tesla for seven years. Driven it across country several times, and up and down the east coast over a dozen times. Most of the "major problems " cited here are flat-out WRONG. Range is very predictable. Unless you do constant jack rabbit starts tires last a long time. I got 72,000 miles on the first set of tires. Body damage repair can be pricey, but almost no mechanical repairs are required because mechanically the cars are very simple. Like any new product long term reliability is not well established, but at least in the case of Tesla indications are that long term reliability is excellent (103k+ on my car, and everything still works like new). Battery failure is less of a concern than engine failure in an ICEmobile is. 8 year unlimited mileage warranty on battery and drive train handles that. How many standard automobiles offer unlimited mileage on their drive trains? Resale value - ignoring the agenda-driven doomsday rhetoric presented in this segment, there is some validity to what is said, though it's WAY overblown. Insurance is bit higher than for your typical tin can, but not outrageously so. You just have to shop around a bit. Price - yeah they're more expensive, but that gap's closing fast. You make up a lot of that in lower maintenance and fuel costs.
@cshaffer825810 ай бұрын
I rented a Tesla while I was in Michigan on vacation. Big mistake!!! I traveled all around the state and there’s a huge lack of charging stations. So if I had to charge the car. I was driving 30 minutes (each way) and spending 45 minutes waiting for the charge to complete. I had a range of 265 miles with a full charge. Ridiculous and a huge waste of time!
@TonYTamayo10719 ай бұрын
EV BUYING IS MERELY A BUYING A HYPE.
@Dundun47937 ай бұрын
So why would you use an ev to travel outside of a city though lol? It’s common knowledge they take a while to charge and makes sense that chargers are not as available as a gas station
@crazyhandshands90287 ай бұрын
They are garbage 🗑 all it is a fire 🔥 Hazzard
@mandelm20016 ай бұрын
What bollocks. You just don’t know what you are doing. Renting any EV without experience means you don’t know where/how to use chargers, don’t know about destination chargers, or have an extension cord for regular outlets. EV owners charge overnight so it is full when they begin. The nav in the car will take you to superchargers on your route. 250 kw chargers take 20 minutes or less, I’ve never charged longer than that.
@mandelm20016 ай бұрын
BTW, the range of the cheapest Tesla is about fours hours of driving time. 30 minutes round trip would use maybe 1/4 of your available range.
@sambunting226311 ай бұрын
Having worked in the I.T. industry for most of my career, I lerarned that the same old adage still applies as in the early years. "LEADING EDGE BLEEDNG EDGE"
@YourHineyness11 ай бұрын
So often in history pioneers get massacred.
@jvaillancourt Жыл бұрын
Maintenance cost is a big advantage, not a disadvantage. Old EVs like the Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model 3 have proven to cost as much as half the average car to maintain.
@mteifke Жыл бұрын
Please show the source of this information
@jvaillancourt Жыл бұрын
According to Car Edge, the average cost of maintaining a Tesla Model 3 over a decade is $3,587 - this is cheaper compared to luxury sedans that have an average maintenance cost of $8,374.
@davewells22443 күн бұрын
Holy cow buddy. Did your cheque's from big oil arrive yet? I have a Tesla and my wife has a Chevrolet EV. We have none of your issues. We're never going back to gas!
@dennisvansandt927410 ай бұрын
Resale value sucks on any EV over 6 years old. Not for me......Thanks anyway....I will drive my Altima for the next 10 years and for a lot less.
@BobB-w4q11 ай бұрын
This is a rational analysis. As a 66 year old who has observed technological development for half a century I will wait until electric vehicle technology matures. There is no way I would have purchased the first VCRs, flat screen TVs, cell phones, personal computers, or any number of things I have seen become reasonably priced and genuinely useful with further development.
@dominickdibella8830 Жыл бұрын
Facts I did not know about tires, insurance, and, of course, resale value. Great video.
@carhelpcorner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RoyBoy2019 Жыл бұрын
Re: tires, should be clarified the JD Associates survey with "13,000 miles" replacement stat refers to OE tires. Misleading to translate this to "2 - 3x" replacement cycle as new tires can be a better spec or tech vs the original tires. The slight cost premium of EV specific tires does not come close to extra ICE costs; especially performance vehicles. Re: resell with old battery (8 years+), there are options beyond new replacement. Refurbishment (like a tune up) can provide a practical second life to an existing battery with capacity recovery up to 90%. Given this item is long term costs will go down significantly, while simultaneously providing an Upgrade to range and other stats. With more EV's being written off due to high costs / giga casting trend, there will be more used batteries medium term. Disclaimer: Satisfied PHEV LiPO owner; encourage others to wait for semi-solid 4C+ capable batteries.
@Dallas-wu6st Жыл бұрын
Don’t believe all the negative “facts” in this video. I have owned a Tesla for 5 years and some of the points in the video are true but I can honestly report to you I will NEVER go back to a combustion engine car again! Let me explain. My home has 60 solar panels installed on its roof. The panels supply all of my homes power needs and has enough to supply my car for a zero out of pocket cost for all of my needs. So I enjoy energy independence. I don’t have to get oil changes or tuneups. I keep my tires inflated to proper air pressures and put water in the windshield reservoir. The tires get rotated every 10,000 miles. That’s it. Other then wash and wax once a month. Brakes that will last a lifetime because you never really use the brakes because the car regenerate that power in momentum to recharge the battery while stopping the car. ( no energy lost ) plus no emissions from a nonexistent tale pipe! Add to the fact you will no longer be getting screwed at the gas station really is satisfying!
@allankoivu3263 Жыл бұрын
Insurance for EV's is comparable to ICE vehicles. Given that you can see a lifetime fuel savings of over $40,000-$60,000 and a a lifetime maintenance savings of $10,000-$20,000 the cost of tires and depreciation on an EV should not be much of a worry.
@icosthop9998 Жыл бұрын
@Dallas-wu6st Everything he brought up are all facts.
@garyjensen3414 Жыл бұрын
You just cant beat Honda and Toyota--Price, mileage, dependability etc
@TheDarq110 ай бұрын
I had the opportunity to drive EV for a week and a half. I drove the Hyndia Kona the only good thing is that it drove smooth and had a few good features, the main problems: trying to find a working charging station/ waiting for the other EV to charge at the charging station/ in the amount of time that it take to charge the EV you could have filled up 6 to 20 vehicles/ you will pass up 30 gas station driving around trying to find a charging station/ and sometimes the kios at the charging stations will not take your payment.
@akbaa73 ай бұрын
if you live in the country, in America, normally you don't really find a place to charge the car, so you have to charge it at home before you leave. In Europe, the towns are relatively close and it is not difficult to find to charge.
@tomjensen7950 Жыл бұрын
We've had our Chevy Bolt for almost a year. For a commuter car it's fantastic. With tax rebates we got is brand new for around $25000. We save $200 a month in gas.
@loading...7583 Жыл бұрын
Lmao. What a fool
@Chet_24 Жыл бұрын
However, it's a Chevy and should be in a junkyard
@gearmonkey5904 Жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the video?
@bill795611 ай бұрын
If you think you saved money..did you figure the cost of the car..?
@jamesharmon382711 ай бұрын
@@bill7956he told you the cost of the car, $25,000.
@jimhall100 Жыл бұрын
I have had a new EV for just under a year and am very happy with it. But my circumstances are unique to me. I live in a warm country, Portugal. I have solar panels so my driving is mostly free. I got a 5 year service free deal. I have only been away from home once where I needed to use public charging. No queues in Portugal. If when I need a new battery pack in 10-12 years time technology will have changed so much, I suspect the cost of a new battery will be at least 50% less than today. Let's wait and see when I need new tyres.
@tommyking626 Жыл бұрын
We'll see if your home battery even last 7 years. Been there done that
@jimhall100 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyking626 not sure what you mean. home battery. If you have had a battery that only lasted 7 years, then it was made 7 years ago. Battery technology has change in the last 7 years.
@mikeifyouplease10 ай бұрын
I feel that EV's are still toys for the rich. Only the rich can afford the initial expense, the high cost of repairs, the long waiting times at public charging station, the higher insurance rates, and the amazing fast resale depreciation. The typical buyer simply can NOT afford all those additional costs over a simple gasoline vehicle.
@stevehayward18543 ай бұрын
I bought my 2012 Nissan Leaf for $3,500 recently, you saying you cant afford that ? especially as new EV's are of similar price to ICE cars
@ThePolaroid669 Жыл бұрын
Good luck also driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne (Australia) which I can currently do on one tank of fuel, without having to stop to charge.
@MR_THINQ7 ай бұрын
Yep, unless EVs can match that range they’re a downgrade.
@bfqywqd11 ай бұрын
Most of my driving involves longer distance so, no, EVs aren't a consideration for me nor will they likely ever be. My EV owning friends often tell me there are "superchargers" across the country which can be used to quickly charge EVs during longer trips. I always respond with a challenge: I will race them from Atlanta to LA and back. I never get a response. :)
@farnthboy10 ай бұрын
Come on you have to make it a fair challenge. You go from Atlanta to LA & back, your ev cohorts fron Atlanta to LA only. Could be a close call.
@joerichardwad164510 ай бұрын
Maybe they have jobs 🤷
@bfqywqd10 ай бұрын
@@farnthboy LOL. I'm making it fair. I don't even ask them to tow anything.
@bfqywqd10 ай бұрын
You mean like I had for 40+ years? Yeah - maybe.
@Tom-dt4ic10 ай бұрын
Sure if your job is to race from LA to Atlanta, then current EV's are not for you. But the line, "I race from LA to Atlanta for a living," is a line said by no one in history.
@aceventuraaceventura2003 Жыл бұрын
Me personally, a Flex Fuel Plug in Hybrid with at least 100mile range. Reason is most people's commute is less than 100mile round trip on average. So it means I rarely have to charge on the go and if I do need to make those long distance trip, I don't have to worry about stopping at any charging station where the price per charge can vary greatly.
@doriangray6985 Жыл бұрын
What's the vehicle?
@davidperry7128 Жыл бұрын
take a train
@charleslloyd4253 Жыл бұрын
A huge issue is in the used car market. What is going to happen to lower middle class people and low income people? Are they going to be forced to buy cars with seriously degraded batteries and spend more and more time at chargers and pay more in fees? Or is the government going to have to raise state and federal taxes, So subsidize cars or batteries for low income people.
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
Not sure about all ev’s. But Tesla usually degrade about 10 percent. I bought a new model y. Think next time I’ll save a ton and take that 10% hit.
@ThomasElmore-dh7pu Жыл бұрын
I plan to wait at least five years to see what happens with electric vehicles also, I really don’t think they are worth the extra premium in price that you pay both at the dealership and at your insurance company, as well as the maintenance costs which tend to be rather high
@DuncanHewitt708 ай бұрын
I think they're probably worth the extra cost if you home charge *and* do the miles needed to get that upfront cost back on not buying petrol. For us we can't justify it - our big car does less than 8k a year - we'd never see the savings back. I can see us getting a small local runabout EV though, but more than likely will wait for technology to improve.
@MR_THINQ7 ай бұрын
Same here… time will tell if the is the future or not, and I suspect it isn’t the future.
@keitho9508 Жыл бұрын
My Tesla Model 3 (2019) has exhibited none of the "problems" canvassed here. I agree, though, that it was "expensive." In short, it is a dream to drive, has 68,000km on the clock and still its original tires, has 93% of original range, has cost me $0 for servicing and is super cheap to charge. The Supercharger network is superb and suffers from none of the drawbacks highlighted here. Recently I did a 5,800km extended trip in Australia using Superchargers with no problems, not even having to wait. Nothing has gone wrong with the cameras or electronics. My M3 is a no brainer, simply superior in every respect.
@Andriastravels Жыл бұрын
The gushing has are not factored in depreciation, and any money you paid out on on "upgraydes" 20% is already lost against a new Model 3, and 2019 resale value will be for parts in a few more years. OK, so you like the car, people also like the 1969 GTO. Its like going on about how great an investment a 3 year old iPhone was.
@keitho9508 Жыл бұрын
@AndriasTravels I do pay a few dollars a month for Premium Connectivity, and it's great. I'll bite the depreciation bullet if I sell it (BTW, the M3 I describe is in New Zealand, I have another (long range) in Australia). I reiterate the driving experience - fabulous - and that's worth everything. Do you own an EV or even, maybe, a Tesla? I haven't met an unhappy T driver.
@Andriastravels Жыл бұрын
@@keitho9508 What a bowl of no brains no logic word salad. Hurry, the princess awaits you at the palace.
@Jimmy-hf8fz Жыл бұрын
@@Andriastravels ICE cars depreciate pretty damn quick too. In Australia I can buy a electric suv with every feature including 360 degree cameras, auto reversing emergency stop etc for $7000 cheaper than a Kia Sportage with the same features. Everyone says they are expensive to buy and quote Corollas etc. Now compare them to BMWs, Mazda CX90 etc and they are way cheaper. Try getting an ICE car that does 0-100km in the same time for any where near the same price as an EV.
@jasoncrandall Жыл бұрын
@@keitho9508nobody I know that bought a Tesla bought another.
@efone3553 Жыл бұрын
I saw a Ted talk last year about the carbon footprint of EV not being what you think by a longshot. Because of the mining of the rare earth metals required for the batteries. It takes about 5 to 6 yrs on avg for an EV to break even with an ICE vehicle. Believe it or not, the vehicle with the smallest carbon footprint is actually a hybrid. That is what i plan on getting for my next jeep.
@GDM22 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the talk was out of date by the time it aired. New battery technologies have none of these issues and are now dominant in the biggest EV market place in the world, with their cars that are exported widely including the RWD Tesla Model 3 & Y also using these batteries.
@blue_ish449911 ай бұрын
Hybrid are the way to go
@danharold308710 ай бұрын
@@blue_ish4499 Yeah the worst of both worlds. Have a look at transport Evolved where one of the crew is $10K under water on a Volt after making $3K in repairs and it needs $6500 to replace 1/3 of the battery. He gets the best of both worlds repairing the ICE part and the EV part. Say no ho hybrids.
@stevenmilburn512510 ай бұрын
Ironically if you removed the battery completely (apart from the lead acid) then the carbon footprint would be even less. Also if you ever charge from the grid then you emit CO2 per KWH. Yours is an external combustion engine or remote combustion engine, there is no such thing as a free lunch as the saying goes
@stevenmilburn512510 ай бұрын
@@GDM22 there are no new battery technologies, it's the same old shit tweaked. Nor are there any groundbreaking clean solutions to the environmental disaster that is EV battery production going to emerge. These are just lies you have been fed. The information was still correct and only some batteries in the Tesla range do not contain cobalt, however what they do contain is dangerous, poisonous and environmentally unsound. Which is fine if it only impacts people miles away from you and pretty much sums up the attitude of EV owners generally.
@kevinbyrne74007 ай бұрын
LEASE ONE , no worries and hand it back after 5 years . Then Lease another one if the first experience was good , if not buy a normal car .
@nathant7437 Жыл бұрын
To everyone that got EVs: Thanks for being our guinea pigs and setting the road for us in the future. I've gained enough life experience to learn that stuff that's pushed on us by the government are rarely for our benefits. I've also learned that you never jump on newer technology, software, electronics and so forth. You should let other people be the test subjects, it's also very entertaining to watch them regret their decisions to an obviously horrible choice(s).
@demelashgeberemarime925511 ай бұрын
Thanks brother for your information that you gave us before we go to EV. In my opinion ,the gas cars better than EV vehicles because When I compare EV with the gas cars, we won’t spend $20 thousand in 10 years to the maintenance however if we will cost us $20 thousand to replace the battery.
@robburrows273711 ай бұрын
The batteries outlast the vehicle. It's interesting to see how ignorant ICE vehicle drivers are.
@johnnymartinjohansen Жыл бұрын
Good video, but you forgot a couple of very important issues: - Lifespan. EVs will on average last just under 10 years. For gas/diesel cars, the number is around 17 years (diesel slightly longer). - EV batteries can easily catch fire, which is a complete nightmare to extinguish. You're right about long warranty on EV batteries. But some companies, mainly Tesla, will ALWAYS try to blame the car owner when something happens, which is why there is ALWAYS up to several court trials going on at the same time, even here in Norway, which is a small country, population wise. I will NEVER buy a Tesla, because their customer service doesn't really exist, at least after you've bought the car.
@sparky79159 ай бұрын
Your right. Our Toyota Camry 2012 still runs as well as the day it was bought. Now the government wants us to buy an ev costing so much more than a gasoline car. Then after about 8 years you have to junk it because it will cost too much to replace the batteries. I hope they come out with hydrogen cars soon.
@evilutionltd8 ай бұрын
Nissan releases the Nissan Leaf with no battery cooling which negatively affected how long the battery lasted. No electric car manufacturer fell for that yet somehow, the anti EV community can't mentally update their facts and still dumbly claim they last 10 years. EV batteries don't easily catch fire. As a percentage, they catch fire nearly 30 times less than ICE cars. I agree they are harder to extinguish but that's because the fire brigade don't all have the correct equipment. When petrol cars came out, the fire brigade couldn't put petrol fires out because they just used water. Technology catches up. There will always be people blindly against the newest thing. When petrol cars came out there were people who would "never get one, it's not the future, I don't have to fill my horse up, there's nowhere to get fuel, they take ages to fill up" which is the same old nonsense we are hearing this time around.
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
I have never owned a vehicle more than 8 years. Had Kia,dodge, Nissan , Chevy. Maybe it’s a Honda or Toyota mindset for 15 years ownership. Got a model y I’ll never know can never go back to the 19th century gas technology.
@almercedes368710 ай бұрын
Talking to EV owners will reveal the truth . If you live in a warmer area and simply drive within 25 miles of your home its a nice , despite expensive toy to add to your collection . However, the TV ads are quite deceptive. " Plug it in at night and your ready to go in the moring " . Notice the ad never mentions -Go Where ? Not 300 miles like the window sticker indicates , you need at least 3 nights of charging for that . Are you OK with stopping 3-4 times to charge your EV for at least 40 minutes on a long trip ? Are you OK with driving 50 MPH on a Turnpike simply to keep up with traffic to attain the distance they advertise ? The reality is if you drive 75-80 you use 1/2 of the stored electricity . If you use the Heater, you use 1/2 of the electricity. Charging in your home garage sets up the possibility of a fire. In fact ask any Fire Dept what happens when they apply water to a Battery powered auto fire. Are you aware that once the battery fails after warranty a replacement is over $ 25000 installed ? Are you aware that Europe rental company Sixt dropped Teslas and bought gas powered vehicles ? Are you aware that American company Hertz just dumped 20,000 Teslas because they cost a fortune to repair ? Our govt is attempting to force Americans to go " ELECTRIC " to ensure that their investment in batteries provide them a fortune in retirement . Everything else happening is simply to keep our minds off of whats really happening . Its the Pied Piper story on this decade.
@shanenestruck8 ай бұрын
CLEARLY does not have a level 2 charger at home!
@aidanmaguire8712 Жыл бұрын
EVs are losing 75% of value in 3 years
@sootuckchoong707711 ай бұрын
Better to buy Electric Bike instead of Electric Car. Cost is super cheap.
@Mike6958711 ай бұрын
All ev’s huh? lol
@sootuckchoong707711 ай бұрын
Quite true. Look at our car battery. It can last only about 1 yeat, and have to change a new one. But at least the car can last upto 30, 40 years. But EV, being fully electric, just like our car battery, it can last just much less then our ordinary cars, right?
@gssf.gr2911 ай бұрын
@@Mike69587 Who said "all" evs?
@paulstough299511 ай бұрын
@@sootuckchoong7077 There are people who have gotten over 250,000 miles from the original EV battery, and has time goes on battery technology will improve and EV batteries will last longer, and get lighter and cheaper. It seems that most EV naysayers believe that we are at the end of EV battery technology and not at close to the beginning.
@anthonyariola627811 ай бұрын
Excellent video!!!!I drove a loaner electric Mercedez EQS for over a month….. most importantly you have to have a home Fast charger number 2,don’t plan of making any long road trip like 100 miles or more cause you will definitely experience stress ….if you get one just use it for a daily commute or for errands around town I’ve experienced the anxiety and I agree with you 150%
@softwarephil170911 ай бұрын
If you can charge in your garage, and you only drive locally, EVs are fine. Public chargers are a disaster.
@danielsaldivar5622 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Tesla3 with 9500 miles. I drive in average about 40 miles every day. I charge it overnight 60 miles. A pleasure to drive and enjoy road trips about 200 miles round trip. A year before buying the Tesla I installed solar panels, so basically the electricity is free as the solar system produces enough kilowatts hours for both my house and car. Highly recommended! Dan
@alhumphreys5784 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t pay anything for your solar system. Where do I sign up
@Dallas-wu6st Жыл бұрын
I have the same situation! Screw the oil companies! Also added a nice battery backup to my home to be recharged by my 60 solar panels on the roof. So mostly keep all my energy for my own needs and send a few KWHs to the grid. I could go off grid but by city ordinance I am required for some reason to stay grid tied. But the electric company is the energy provider of last resort! With few exceptions have added to the grid rather then had a taken from it at the end of the month.
@danielsaldivar5622 Жыл бұрын
That is exactly my plan. I’m thinking about adding 8 more solar panels to add more kilowatts hours to charge a Tesla Y I’m buying for my wife. We are both retired so most likely these will be our last vehicles. Thanks for your comments. Dan
@DrTofutybeast2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@joedennehy386 Жыл бұрын
Price Range anxiety Lack of working chargers Cost of charging Fire hazards Insurance problems, charging indoors. Depreciation Cold performance Rebates and subsidies ending
@shanenestruck8 ай бұрын
ICE cars are MORE likely to catch fire! I've had NONE of your list of problems
@patriley9449 Жыл бұрын
I live near the Reno, Nevada and there are lots of EVS, mostlyTeslas, here. They can generally be seen between here and almost anywhere in California. Once you head east into the desert and then across most of the US until you get to more major cities, you see almost none of them. Cost may be an issue as those in the hinterlands do not have as much money as those in big cities, but I believe that range and lack of charging stations are two major problems. I recently drove cross country in my Camry hybrid only stopping for gas every 500-600 miles. After 5-10 minutes, I was on my way again. On the open western and midwestern roads and freeways EVs were basically non-existent. I will buy one when true range is 400 miles or more and there are plenty of charging stations. Also, charging times need to be faster than 20 minutes. I am not sure if this is possible. EVs are perfect for short to medium range trips, not long distances. Many Americans cannot afford to have two cars, so the ICE vehicle is their choice.
@reanult457 Жыл бұрын
Lucid Air has over 500 miles range but it's too expensive, can't justify saving gas money.
@heinzriemann3213 Жыл бұрын
EVs will never do what ICEs do. Not only are the drawbacks inherent to the technology but the infrastructure is a century behind ICE.
@msgmak1379 Жыл бұрын
EV's are a luxury. No way in the world it could be the "family" vehicle.
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
Mine is. Tesla model y. Share with wife.
@chieunguyen5805 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your assessment ! Insurance and 'body" repair costs are the deal breakers for me to buy a brand-new EV right now
@matt8264 Жыл бұрын
I bought a traditional car 7 year ago and now I only get the same MPG as I did when I bought it. 😂
@zarroth Жыл бұрын
@@matt8264 seriously, my car is 18 years old now and the MPG hasn't degraded at all. total maintenance over 2 decades is under 5k as well since I do the work myself. EV aren't the future, nor are they competitive, especially since once the central banks are dismantled around the world, the price of fuel will drop by 75% or more and stay there.
@GDM22 Жыл бұрын
@@matt8264 Unfortunately gas prices have gone up significantly, so costs a lot more to cover the same distance.
@matt8264 Жыл бұрын
@@GDM22 You are paying a premium for an electric car over a gas one. So while you claim to be saving money between fill up’s you pay more for the car. Obviously how long you own it will determine if you get a return on investment.
@teekay_111 ай бұрын
@@zarroth Similar story, 26 year old Honda Accord still getting 28 MPG around town, no loss of range, I need to replace a sway bar bushing. And I upgraded the sound system to support Apple Carplay.
@cameron624911 ай бұрын
i don't want a car that forces me to change the way i drive, plan and calculate routes for long trips, worry about broken and slow chargers or handshake problems, heater affecting range (ice cars mileage not affected), cold weather affecting range (ice cars mileage not affected), warnings of staying above 20% but not above 80% charge, premature tire wear, premature suspension wear, trading a 2min fill up for a 45min 80% charge (that's insane).... all that just to avoid paying $35 to fill up? only an idiot buys a 100k tesla model x because of gas prices!
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
I don’t like change!
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
Heaters don’t greatly affect range anymore. Tire and suspension wear isn’t any more than a comparable ICE car (those a myths). Modern V3 super chargers will charge you 80% in 5 to 10 minutes. But the majority of owners charge from home overnight and spend 0 minutes waiting for a charge or fuel. Saving the average person around 16-17 hours per year on getting fuel. You can buy a model 3 for less than the average car price in the US. Certainly below $100k. (Closer to $35k) and to save an average of $50 a week on fuel give or take $2,600 per year savings plus not needing any servicing which is savings again.
@Pk3_Garage11 ай бұрын
Yah, and don't forget all the money spent while waiting for a charge at a public charger for those that go and buy stuff, they normally wouldn't have, if driving an ICE vehicle. Higher insurance payments. Tire replacement cost more and are changed more frequent than on an ICE vehicle.
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
@@Pk3_Garage in most places insurance is comparable. EV tires also don’t wear faster. That’s an urban myth.
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
@@Pk3_Garage not sure why you think using a public charger forces you to buy more stuff. Not like service stations have shops in them with cigarettes, toys, snacks, lollies etc.
@WaterDR-tw8re Жыл бұрын
I have a Mach E. Car has been great. Paid about $33k for it after federal rebate. Cost me $0.90 to drive 100 miles. I rarely use a public charger. Car needs zero maintenance. Had it two years and it's never seen a shop. Range sucks in the winter however. Our second car is a PHEV.
@davek937811 ай бұрын
Do you rotate your own tires? That’s the only reason I go to a shop anymore - I change my own oil, but I don’t like rotating tires.
@rickhazen522711 ай бұрын
Do you have any evacuation plan so that when your car catches on fire while you're driving down the road you can get out of it?
@maxpayne741911 ай бұрын
Zero maintenance 😂
@WaterDR-tw8re9 ай бұрын
@@davek9378 no. Too lazy lol
@WaterDR-tw8re9 ай бұрын
@@rickhazen5227 Educate yourself. An EV is 27 times less likely to catch fire than an ICE.
@rumpoh80399 ай бұрын
GETTING MUGGED waiting for public charger
@raymondlawson9556 күн бұрын
Never have waited. Do you mean plugged in? Also how many attacks at a gas pump happen.
@Mindmanual1 Жыл бұрын
First of all, this is an excellent video giving real-time facts, which I have gradually been discovering for myself, therefore I have confidence in all that is explained here. I still believe that if I am seriously thinking of buying an EV, it will be a hybrid. The main reason is the issue of the complexities and irritations of recharging at public chargers, also I hear that vandals are beginning to pull the charger plugs out just for kicks, while the driver is having a rest or meal
@alowatsakima8950 Жыл бұрын
Just remember that when cars came out there were no roads.
@jnavonoD Жыл бұрын
@@alowatsakima8950 Specious and a false equivalence.
@ThomasWalerius Жыл бұрын
Had my Tesla five years. And will buy another. EV’s are the future unless you’re a paranoid conservative.
@pnichols6500 Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasWalerius The average car buyer, whether conservative or a flaming liberal, is constrained by economics. Thus the flood of unsold and unsellable electric vehicles sitting in dealers lots, GM and Ford are taking a bloodbath on them and slowing production. You my friend own what makes you happy, why can't you let others do what makes them happy?
@taunokekkonen5733 Жыл бұрын
The plug locks in when you charge, so it can't be pulled out.
@old_pilot Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned 5 different Tesla’s since 2013 and have publicly charged twice. Get home, plug in, forget about it. I rarely do road trips. Never seen any battery degradation but I trade in about every 3-4. years. I have saved a ton of money on maintenance. True that tires are more problematic but nowhere near the headache of maintenance required by ICE vehicles. Very little maintenance required, except that I keep an electric tire pump at home and check tire pressures more often. EV’s are a much better driving experience as well. I’ll bet this video is sponsored by the legacy auto industry. The vast majority who’ve ever owned an EV would never again buy an internal combustion engine. Those are antiquated after owning an EV.
@doriangray6985 Жыл бұрын
It would be better for the environment if you kept your cars longer. Wife and I keep ours for over 10 years, much more environmentally friendly
@DelMarSteeler Жыл бұрын
You Musk be gay🤷🏻♂️
@toddwright662 Жыл бұрын
Checking the tire pressure on the screen in the car is hard, isn't it? You have to push like three "buttons" on the menu to see the pressure of all four tires...
@old_pilot Жыл бұрын
@@toddwright662 It couldn’t be easier. You push the button icon at the bottom left of the screen to present the menu. Click on ‘Service’ and it displays all four tire with the current pressure of each. I check it about every 2nd or 3rd drive.
@old_pilot Жыл бұрын
@@doriangray6985 I’m sure your right. But I like to drive the latest baby. But I do employ a home solar array where I put more energy into the grid than take from it.
@mlong9475 Жыл бұрын
That's why I decided to get a hybrid after my last gas only car. I wanted the higher mpg of hybrids but did'nt want to be tethered to a charger while gas stations are still readily available where I drive.
@ronb9901 Жыл бұрын
Hybrids the way to go right now. 👍
@b3arwithm3 Жыл бұрын
But you have 2 types of fuels which double the problems
@aceroadholder2185 Жыл бұрын
@@b3arwithm3 No, the hybrid just consumes gasoline. The battery is charged by the ice engine and braking regeneration.
@b3arwithm3 Жыл бұрын
@@aceroadholder2185 I know that, but now you have a combustion engine and electric engine to worry about. There's a lot of tech in there which is proportional to the number of possible problems.
@hieutv8350 Жыл бұрын
Toyota hybrids are the way to go! I have one and I never have to plug in which is awesome.
@thomascunningham11111 ай бұрын
1. Is it a smart policy to allow the federal government to dictate what cars that Americans can drive? NO. Buyers should determine what cars they want. (GM said that they will no longer sell ICE cars after 2035. Instead, listen to their customers.) 2. EVs are NOT practical for about 90% of Americans. It appears that manufacturers and dealers do not understand American customers.
@engineeringtheweirdguy210311 ай бұрын
Actually they’re not practical for about 30% but what ever. I guess made up statistics sound better don’t they?
@kalon227 Жыл бұрын
Get smart and buy a hybrid. We have a ‘22 Honda Accord hybrid. Uses on board batteries that are charged when break is applied…e.g. at a red light. It carries gas but we get 42 mpg.
@chrisbraid29079 ай бұрын
You are getting great mileage, sadly many hybrids do not … there is definitely a place for them. It’s a case of looking at what will fit your needs best …
@MR_THINQ7 ай бұрын
Yep, until the technology works my next car is a hybrid.
@moorefacts66056 ай бұрын
My RAV4 also gets great gas mileage, 40 mile straight EV range too.
@moorefacts66056 ай бұрын
@@chrisbraid2907 The new Toyota trucks are hybrid but their emphasis is adding more horsepower for their use. Hybrids have 2 purposes, some are for added mpg, others for better towing capacity. RE; Tacoma, Tundra.
@robertjohnson31406 ай бұрын
I avg 49 on my 2015 prius with over 350k miles.
@deandambrosia1201 Жыл бұрын
I guess because I have owned a Tesla for over 5 years I have not encountered any of the concerns raised in this video, except for one. I do go through tires more so than an ICE car. I guess it’s partly because of the weight of the car but probably more so the jack rabbit accelerations. The 0-60 in three seconds never gets old. In five years no repair costs, no maintenance, never had a moment of range anxiety. I would never drive an ICE car again. In fact, it’s so annoying to drive a rental ICE car when I travel.
@jamesheartney9546 Жыл бұрын
You can rent a Tesla from Hertz these days. Just be sure to do a full walkaround before you drive off.
@davesutherland1864 Жыл бұрын
Do you go through tires at two to three times the rate of an ICE car? That seemed a bit far fetched to me.
@joechera4419 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, the tires do wear more quickly, but a rate of 3 x is crazy. This guy and his video are poorly informed, and likes to say the sky is falling . Seems to sensationalize any potential negatives.
@deandambrosia1201 Жыл бұрын
I replaced my first set of tires around 12,000 miles. Since then, with my current mileage at 72,000, I've lost count of the number of tire sets I've gone through. I'm certain it's at least three, possibly four sets. It's safe to say that I've changed my tires more frequently than my underwear. Since Teslas don't have spares, I carry a few cans of fix-a-flat and opt for ride-flat tires for added peace of mind. I will never drive anything other than a Tesla.
@deandambrosia1201 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesheartney9546 Thanks will do.
@Galileo9.81 Жыл бұрын
In fact, I am quite happy that I have purchased my model 3 long range DM 3 years ago. Of course, it is not cheap, but peace of mind is what you get. No service visit! I have done four long-distance trips with this and no issue at all. Tesla SCN is flawless! Only time can tell but I know where it's heading. It is only the matter of time, not IF. Btw, I have driven 7 ICEs in my life for roughly 25 years and I am not going back!
@helpAmerica1 Жыл бұрын
45 minutes to fill the tank.. WHAT....???? NO resale value,....What do you mean our town does not have enough electricity to charge 20 cars. Why are the tires so expensive, What insurance cost/
@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 Жыл бұрын
V3 super chargers can charge a car in 5-15 minutes. But you charge at home overnight unless you find yourself driving over 300-400 miles per day. Pretty much every town has the grid to support LOTS of EV charging. EV’s don’t go through tired any faster than other cars with similar performance. And it depends on where you get your insurance. I pay less on my EV’s insurance atm than I did in my 2016 Subaru Impreza GX.
@helpAmerica1 Жыл бұрын
I think your stretching realities. of the local service. abilities . @@engineeringtheweirdguy2103
@Foofrarf2311 ай бұрын
I work at a mechanic shop, we see electric cars with tires that wear down twice as quickly as those with gas engines because they are sooooo heavy.
@videocanonuser3 ай бұрын
Many EVs have super powerful acceleration so I am thinking high tyre wear originates with the driving style of the owner or driver.
@stevehayward18543 ай бұрын
@@videocanonuser Funny that, as I have been driving EV's for over 7 years now and I have never worn a tyre down yet, maybe I'm not driving it right. I do drive it like I stole it, but the computer takes the wear out of the tyres, no matter how hard I floor it and it will do 0-60 in 3.9s
@jaysphere75192 ай бұрын
@@stevehayward1854and you are a EV paid guy as I see you bot face everywhere in the comment section.
@EricFisher-nf9mn6 ай бұрын
I had a ev for 6 months and took it back to the Dealership and traded it in for a gas vehicle I give Ev one star.
@chuachua-hj9zd2 ай бұрын
Why
@THUGNASTYNINJA2 ай бұрын
Yeah why?
@slavric Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention, that the EVs are almost exclusively for people who have an option to charge at home or maybe at work. When I installed rooftop solar, EV was the next logical move. Broken EVs offer some opportunities too. For example, battery for Nissan Leaf 40kWh costs 17.000€ + installation cost. I can fix it for about 6.000€ and charge 8.000€ and everyone is happy.
@malcolmabram295711 ай бұрын
This is a serious issue. In many populations, most people live in terraced housing, flats or condominiums. I lived in a terraced home for 4 years. I had to park in any free space on the road. But if I had had an EV, I would have to have a cable running out of my home, presuming I was able to park outside my home. I would not want the stress of having to find a public charger every few days.
@severnsea11 ай бұрын
No, you might be happy but I cannot think of anybody else that would be with an 8.000€ repair bill for a a small hatchback. Not too long ago you could buy a brand new one for less than that.
@severnsea11 ай бұрын
@@malcolmabram2957 You wouldn't be allowed to have a cable running outside your home, it would be a trip hazard. Can you honestly imagine the scenario if there were hundreds of thousands of cables trailing over footpaths everywhere? The health and safety brigade and the accident compensation lawyers would have a field day.
@sptrader631611 ай бұрын
People are happy with $8k bill for repair ? When was the last time an ICE bill was $8k ?
@slavric11 ай бұрын
@@severnsea Yes, prices are insane, but that will go down eventually. Abut the price of repair; 8000€ can buy you around 5.000 liters of fuel and if you have some normal (European) petrol car with consumption 7l/100km you will drive around 72.000km or 45.000 miles. So if you have mostly free electricity from solar, you will pay the cost of fuel for those 72.000km and then you'll drive for free. Nissan leaf isn't a good reference car, because it has the worst thermal management of the battery. "Normal" EV battery with good thermal management should do around 100.000km per 10kWh of capacity at least, so this 40kWh battery should be good for at least 400.000km. In this time you already saved for a new car just on fuel.
@MSgt5J07111 ай бұрын
I like the way the problems are presented from the standpoint of practical issues as opposed to political or economical issues. This video is a good warning about doing your research before you buy.
@dwightd.eisenhower3729 Жыл бұрын
I see things similarly to you. For me, the extremely high purchase price for electric cars is central. Some of the problems you mentioned could be avoided with a leasing contract. However, I suspect that the monthly rates will be correspondingly high.
@ilvll Жыл бұрын
I got one but i only felt safer on my choice once you reviewed the Ioniq 6 vs Tesla and when Scott Kilmer reviewed the Ionig 5. All your points are valid but, like you said, going for a choice that had longer range gave me a lot of piece of mind. Thank you for your great work.
@xh3598 Жыл бұрын
This program is strictly for dumbasses. Before any EV is sold to a customer, mandatory electric vehicle ownership classes must be taken. Especially battery charging and safety.
@udaysachdeva Жыл бұрын
Piece ❌ 👉🏻peace
@Channel-iu6de Жыл бұрын
Longer range does not necessarily mean better. His advice is not very good there. A Standard range Tesla can be charged to 100% all oft he time, the long range Tesla is only meant to be charged to 80%, meaning that it loses 20% of its distance, which makes it basically the same distance as the standard range anyway. So unless you are using all of that range every single time you drive it, its completely pointless going for the long range, not to mention the standard range is a battery quality battery. This guy is spreading propaganda bs and exaggerating the truth.
@tammyconrad1635 Жыл бұрын
@@Channel-iu6deI want the AWD which I think is a good reason to get the long range.
@tiefblau2780 Жыл бұрын
But I though you wanted... *EV* the future hmm? Havent had enough of what happends to iphones, or charging battery degradation? *Or* *did* *you* *seriously* *it* *wouldnt* *happened* *to* *EV* AHAHAHAHAA
@ezpoppy55 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Model 3 SR+, my wife drives a ‘21 VW ID.4 PRO. Both of these are the least expensive trims of those models - they have the smallest battery pack and the shortest range. That being said, they have provided 2.5 years of solid, reliable, and easy transportation for our family (2 adults and 2 teenage boys), in daily commuting AND long distance family vacations. We’ve taken them on trips to remote areas like the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, to across the US. I will state categorically that neither of us would ever return to ICE vehicles. All I see on the roads is more and more EVs. The FUD being disseminated in this video is countered by the fact that EVs are becoming a larger and larger share of vehicle sales, and in response to that, even legacy car brands are making more EVs to sell. If you want the real and actual story of life with an EV, talk with EV owners. You’ll find most are happy to share their experiences with those curious about EVs. Safe driving all!
@retiefgregorovich810 Жыл бұрын
And yet they are still only about 5% of cars sold. No one I personally know has an electric car.
@EllenRNPHN Жыл бұрын
@@retiefgregorovich810you obviously don’t live in Southern California. Btw, I have had my Tesla model Y 1 1/2 years now and love it.
@ezpoppy55 Жыл бұрын
@@retiefgregorovich810 Actually EV sales account for closer to 8% of new car sales in the US, and double that worldwide. And most importantly, in both markets, EV manufacturing and sales are increasing. Every. Single. Day. That’s the reality. That’s the future. Pretty much every auto manufacturer knows that, and is reading the writing on the wall. That there are some individuals who can’t or won’t understand the future is immaterial and unimportant. There are still some who use a horse and buggy as their sole transportation. And they tend to hang out together in their own little group. They have zero impact on the choices society makes regarding transportation. Safe travels all. 🙂
@adorabledeplorable510510 ай бұрын
My stock portfolio in Kool -Aid has skyrocketed with the advent of of EV’s .
@DonFahquidmi Жыл бұрын
One of the drawbacks I'm not seeing discussed is grid capacity. Our distribution network cannot even handle a heat wave much less a large increase in the number of EVs. And how would you charge them when the grid is barely able to support the increased demand by HVAC systems during such events?
@lamontjohnson581011 ай бұрын
Grid capacity is definitely a drawback that "will" likely be an issue for the EV industry and owners in the future, but right now, it's just not a problem. EVs are still a small percentage of US auto sales. That said, grid capacity is one of two infrastructure issues that will most certainly have to be addressed before EVs will gain widespread appeal in North America--the other being charging station availability and reliability. In short, I believe the grid capacity issue will be mostly resolved before EVs are widespread.
@shanenestruck8 ай бұрын
You need to read and research more! this "grid problem" is skuttlebut from the oil industry
@user-cf7ny4kg6r11 ай бұрын
This is one of the most intelligent videos on the subject. Many videos promoting EVs are blatantly dishonest. They deliberately avoid many of the EV's weaknesses this video addresses.
@Atwater20 Жыл бұрын
Within the next 10 years charging stations will be as common as gas stations. The overwhelming majority of charging takes place in the owners home, so the charger problem is pretty minor.
@shaggy-one8 ай бұрын
If the overwhelming majority of charging takes place at home, why exactly would there need to be as many charging stations as there are gas stations currently? Who is going to use them if almost everyone is charging at home?
@Atwater208 ай бұрын
@@shaggy-oneThe difference is there will be charging stations in apartment complexes, at work and other places you don't usually find gas stations.
@legitimatematters6 күн бұрын
This video was definitely produced by a EV hater. I have an EV and love it! The comfort, power and handling is a game changer. I live in a NYC apartment and I charge my car at a 24/7 indoor garage with security. The garage has 6 EV chargers. I can set my charge for 80% and monitor the progress from my iPhone. As far as battery life, battery degradation, or tires are concerned, I have no worries. Why? Because my Acura ZDX is a lease! In addition, all my vehicles (Which were previously financed) have been insured through Progressive and have a Diamond status. I traded my 2020 Acura RDX AWD Advance Trim for the ZDX and my insurance went down by $75 per month. Living in NYC, I commute to work on the subway, and my car is parked in an indoor garage. I would not buy an EV if I drove long distances every day. My car is a convenience and my beautiful Acura ZDX is perfect for my specific needs. There is no vehicle perfect for every person. One size does not fit all when it comes to owning a car!
@hudsonhollow Жыл бұрын
I love my Chevy Bolt. I have never charged it away from home. I didn't buy it to travel, it's my around town every day car. I never have to stop for gas. Chevy has built them since 2017 and worked out a lot of the issues. I've been a mechanic all of my life and looking at the small car market today, most aren't gonna make it much over 100,000 miles if they make it that far. CVT transmissions, engines that are too small, supercharged, over stressed, etc, etc... My brother went through three transmissions and two engines before getting rid of his Eqinox (extra knocks) and he's older than me and a much more conservative driver. The Bolts are cheap and very reliable. In Alabama, I get a break on my power cost by owning an EV. This applies to ALL power for my house. I'l be 74 this month so even though I enjoy spirited driving (it is FUN) my tires are not a problem. Still, NEVER buy an EV as your only vehicle, even though mine gets way more use than the ICE cars I own. My major gripe (which doesn't effect me) is the EV charging stations are out in the open with no weather protection and not convenient at all. Bucees is a huge operation in the South with everything you need on the road. Our local one has many, many pumps that are sheltered and convenient to the store. The Tesla charging station is large, but way out in a corner. No weather protection and a long walk, rain or shine, to the store.
@jonathan-j7t1o Жыл бұрын
I have a PHEV (MItsubishi Outlander) and installed an in-house charging station (240VAC) and can rapidly recharge my batteries but its dependent on ambient air temp, the charge is faster and stronger in warm weather as is expected with recharging batteries. All that taken into consideration, during warm weather I have gotten over 100 mpg during hot months for the gasoline engine that primarily drives the generator that turns the front and rear axle electric motors. In the beginning of my third year driving my 2021 Mitsu I still get 40 or more mpg during winter, colder weather months here in New England. I recharge anytime I am parked in my garage because my solar panel system is the parent company of the seller of my plug in charging system. So during the day I let the sun replenish my battery mileage. PS If you haven't felt the acceleration of an electric front axle with the rear axle pitching in to balance torque steer and provides 4 wheel drive, you are missing something! I do realize we are comparing apples and oranges, just felt like throwing my 2 cents into the discussion.
@Patriot-od6xk Жыл бұрын
What year model and what price did you pay? I'm researching. Thanks
@mervynsullivan Жыл бұрын
I won't touch an EV with a barge pole.
@stevehayward18543 ай бұрын
So sad to see someone with such a weak mind that it's easily fooled by the Big Oil/Legacy Car companies propaganda, they have deep pockets to bribe Politicians and the media to spread their FUD. The only people you find talking bad about EV's are people that have something to lose, like dealerships, repair shops. So it doenst take an Albert Einstein to work out whats going on EV's are here to stay
@j.p.454111 ай бұрын
I’ll buy an EV when our electrical grid gets better. California already asks its people to conserve their electricity consumption due to grid issues and supply shortages.
@TuanPham-yp8gb Жыл бұрын
Wait until it’s popular and prices come down a lot. 5-10 years from now in my opinion 😊
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
EV's have actually been around as long as ICE vehicles, but they don't want to tell you that.
@jamesjoslin7586 Жыл бұрын
@@henryhill3778Then why haven’t they dominated? Oh, thats right, because they are NO WHERE NEAR as reliable.
@Felix-rising Жыл бұрын
@@henryhill3778if this was about climate you would be able to drive a converted golf cart and save even more money. Here in Uk they are already turning home chargers off at peak times
@henryhill3778 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjoslin7586 EXACTLY!
@Asunisland9 ай бұрын
Rename to “Ten major problems people who don’t have electric cars have with electric cars”? Why not “Ten major problems with ICE cars no one talks about”. I actually have an EV and don’t currently have any problems and know many other EV owners who aren’t having any problems at all. Except for replacing types when you get a flat!
@DrTofutybeast2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@hemipowersrt6773 Жыл бұрын
The only real problems with an ice car is changing the oil every 3,000 or 5,000 miles, inspecting the radiator and hoses to prevent overheating, serpentine belt, timing belt, water pump, oil leaks, coils going bad, wiring, sensors going bad, transmission issues, and so on not to mention, AC going bad , and check engine lights coming on all the time. And you still have to replace tires every 40 to 50 thousand miles.😂😂😂😂
@JTR253 Жыл бұрын
People in the real world don’t drive 70s junkers from Italy or France which look “cute” but that is about it. PS 1 Chevy Bolts literally exploded so I rather have an ICE car than that. Even Teslas can explode as well. PS 2 Electric cars can and do have radiators.
@allankoivu3263 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the joy of paying $40,000-$60,000 in lifetime fuel costs....
@allankoivu3263 Жыл бұрын
I have a Chevy Bolt....just out of curiosity when can I expect it to explode...ideally not next week if you could take off your tinfoil hat and give me a prognostication. 🤣
@hemipowersrt6773 Жыл бұрын
@@JTR253 You are right! I've never seen a ICE car explode or catch on fire 🔥
@hemipowersrt6773 Жыл бұрын
@@allankoivu3263 Tell me about it. I HAVE A 2018 DURANGO THAT SUCKS GAS EVEN WHEN IT 'S PARKED IN THE GARAGE
@Vrey66211 ай бұрын
the problem with evs are the big brands that couldn't catch on with the new technology they need more time and money, the consumer should move on to new EV established brands like Tesla or BYD etc
@elmalasiano Жыл бұрын
Interesting video to me because it highlights the huge difference in the markets of the USA and Asia. Over here (Malaysia), there are chargers in every shopping mall and almost every gas station that has a Starbucks or similar. We do not experience any of the issues you mentioned except the pricing, but in an unexpected way. The government has banned the import of EVs under USD 10k for 3 more years to give time to the two local OEMs to ramp up their own production. Tesla just opened a plant here and those cars are selling like there is no tomorrow. I went Byd and love the drive!
@xh3598 Жыл бұрын
This program is strictly for dumbasses. Before any EV is sold to a customer, mandatory electric vehicle ownership classes must be taken. Especially battery charging and safety.
@elmalasiano Жыл бұрын
@@GNMi79 It is small indeed, but I do drive long distances. All you need is fast chargers along the way and have a coffee or any other 15-20 minute distraction each 350 KM. When I travel in China it is sometimes 7-8 hours with 2 stops (3 if we are with kids of course). Long distance is always relative to infrastructure, in ICE it is gas stations while in EV it's UFC stations.
@imac1957 Жыл бұрын
True. Also the case in Australia, which is a huge country, and does not have quite as many charging options as you seem to have. However, I regularly drive interstate in my Tesla (often 1900 km each way) and have no trouble at all charging when I need to. It takes a little more thinking than an ICE car, but that is not too difficult when the computer plots it all out for you. The touring is SO much nicer in my Tesla than any ICE car I have ever driven. EVs have just started to take off in Oz, and the Model Y is now the biggest selling sedan car in the country (of any type).
@jonnieinbangkok Жыл бұрын
There is no Tesla assembly plant in Malaysia.
@elmalasiano Жыл бұрын
@jonnieinbangkok no need for a plant here. They have an Approved Permit to import cars without taxes or tariffs. The Shanghai Plant can deliver in under a week or two. It takes longer than that to get a license plate in Malaysia. 😅 They do have their SE Asia HQ in Cyberjaya (Selangor) close to KL and close to Putrajaya where government sits. Their investment cash is better aimed at the supercharger network.
@ronsmith8434 Жыл бұрын
No evs for me
@Zul_H6 ай бұрын
me too.. rather wait for 5 min 1 to 5 min gas then 45 to 1 hour for EV..
@leifandersen2756 Жыл бұрын
Avoid a nightmare !Don’t buy one or you will regret it one day !
@jarvismckenzie77611 ай бұрын
That's true of prettymuch any car.
@darren-l9q2d6 ай бұрын
also to charge them at home you would have to install a home charger which is not an option if you are renting because you have to rewire the home/apartment who is going to pay for it the landlord isnt and will not consent to you doing so even if you had the$ so you have to own your own home plus the very high purchase price/high cost of maintenance/.low resale value/finding qualified service techs where you are...also unreliable/finding charging stations that are consistently reliable and not a tech nightmare as well as wait times...also if parked in or near your home when they catch fire which they do practically near 100% impossible to put the fire out so your home and car burns to the ground...worth it...i do not think so ...just my opinion which i am entitled to...if any pro ev/anti ice who pick and choose from the facts should dispute this/jump down my throat!
@scottw595 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice I now own 3 Teslas and can’t wait to get the cybertruck. Had one since 2019, will never buy an ice again from any other manufacturer. Everything else has feels like a cheap ripoff…….