10 MORE Things You Didn't Know About Shining

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Minty Comedic Arts

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@66Bunn
@66Bunn 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew everything about The Shining. I had no idea that Shellie Duvall was nominated for a Razzie. That blows my mind because it's of my opinion that she absolutely knocks it out of the park. I personally think it's one of the best acting performances I've ever seen in a horror movie. It didn't even seem like she was acting, that that was her real emotions happening in front of us.
@alisdairmckenzie
@alisdairmckenzie 2 жыл бұрын
Cough cough....ever heard of a website called IMDB??
@JennifuhhGilardi
@JennifuhhGilardi 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, can’t agree there. And her acting seems so authentic because she was abused the whole time they were shooting for that reason.
@derkeheath5172
@derkeheath5172 2 жыл бұрын
Her acting in Robert Altman's films is also incredible. I HIGHLY recommend Three Women and Thieves Like Us.
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
@@JennifuhhGilardi Supposedly.
@IIISWILIII
@IIISWILIII 2 жыл бұрын
Outside of the film's climax, I found her performance to be weak and annoying. Perhaps it was more the character than her.
@peterherron4222
@peterherron4222 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think what makes The Shining so everlastingly good is the fact that it's one of the few movies that genuinely make you feel uneasy and uncomfortable from the opening credits and never lets up
@alexblazquez2277
@alexblazquez2277 2 жыл бұрын
100% ive seen it countless times but it is such an unsettling movie, hard to go to sleep after that
@antonboludo8886
@antonboludo8886 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, when I saw it in the theatre the opening sequence made you feel the impending doom already.
@RoguePhysicist
@RoguePhysicist Жыл бұрын
The opening music might have been a contributing factor to that. Imagine if the opening musical score was "Yakety Sax" (aka the "Benny Hill Theme"); it could have changed the entire tone of the movie.
@nahumgardner
@nahumgardner 2 жыл бұрын
I'm totally behind this '10 More Things' series.
@livingood1049
@livingood1049 2 жыл бұрын
Me Too!! Although after 6 years I think changing the music at the end is something to consider, especially if you're binge watching. .02
@mafemartinez2235
@mafemartinez2235 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@connersaintofboston
@connersaintofboston 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be behind 'ANOTHER 10 more things' series too! Lol All you stuff is GOLD, Minty!!;
@barrylevinsky1152
@barrylevinsky1152 2 жыл бұрын
Behind this comment that is behind this series.If starting a new Minty episode does not get a smile then that person is at a level of uptightness that may be uncureable. Like stick up butt is so far up it is like a bee stinger and if removed it will kill. Talking Karen level douchebagness.
@rdecredico
@rdecredico 2 жыл бұрын
These are bullshit and appropriate for idiots only.
@robertthienes7792
@robertthienes7792 2 жыл бұрын
I find the soundtrack and the complete chaotic vagueness part of what makes the film so unsettling. Not having read the book when I first saw it at ten years old, I found the flashes of the ghosts terrifying. Particularly because they were the ultimate unknown. Why were they there...what were they doing? The more I watch it, the more I appreciate the spiraling decent into madness.
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 2 жыл бұрын
I first watched The Shining in 2004. It's a classic. Jack Nicholson gave an Oscar worthy performance as Jack Torrance and it's a shame he didn't get a Oscar nomination for his chilling portrayal of the recovering alcoholic writer gone psychopath. I like to believe Nicholson got cast as The Joker in Batman cos of his performance as Jack Torrance.
@nsasupporter7557
@nsasupporter7557 2 жыл бұрын
Nicholson has already won 3 Oscars for… One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Terms of Endearment and As Good As it Gets
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@nsasupporter7557 So? He could had got an Oscar for The Shining.
@nsasupporter7557
@nsasupporter7557 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielwilliamson6180 oh of course 😉
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@nsasupporter7557 My father is a Jack Nicholson fan. I like to think he named and my mother named me and my brother after Jack and Danny from the movie. My brother's middle name is Nicholas.
@nsasupporter7557
@nsasupporter7557 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielwilliamson6180 for real? That’s interesting lol 😂 I don’t know who I like better, him or Robert De Niro 🤷‍♂️
@DungeonStudio
@DungeonStudio 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the scariest and most memorable part of the movie is the hotel itself. The production design and Kubrick's camera placements pretty well make every scene look like the hotel is 'enveloping' the characters. And yes, speculation in Room 237 claims Kubrick wanted this incongruousness layout to mystify the viewers. But I'm just amazed the vastness achieved in the confines that had to be worked in. And is interesting how after Jack kills Halloran, the shots and hotel get more confined and claustrophobic. Hallways, rooms, the maze all just become small and close to the characters. So again, pretty amazing how Kubrick minimized things at the end after such wide and open sets beforehand. Almost like the hotel and it's surroundings was an open mouth at first that slowly started closing around all the characters.
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, now I gotta go see this movie again. I love cinematic techniques like the one you describe.
@thatcanadian6698
@thatcanadian6698 Жыл бұрын
I think it meant the madness and evil were closing in around them, especially Jack, and everything was coming to it's inevitable and bloody conclusion.
@coreyhendricks9490
@coreyhendricks9490 2 жыл бұрын
There always more facts to a particular movie that Minty have done, it's a lot to go through, cool video as always Minty, keep up the good work and take care and you have a great weekend
@AubreyTheKing
@AubreyTheKing 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, that's my main reason why I love The Shining! Not everything has to be explained! It's all up to the viewers themselves to determine what's what. There's no right or wrong definitive answers to it. And the more times you watch it, you come up with even more theories to the solution. That's the beauty of this film for me. Nowadays with horror movies, they don't do this anymore. They have to explain everything in great in depth details to the audiences to what's going on. They never let the audiences try to solve or come up with theories themselves to speculate to what's happening. The film is a lot scarier when you don't explain everything. And The Shining is a perfect example of a film where it leaves you unanswered and wondering what happened. I LOVE THIS MOVIE!
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
Well, mainstream horror anyways. There's a lot of independently produced films that really strive to do something original
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 2 жыл бұрын
The other beauty about it is much of the "oddness" is subliminal. Like there's a scene when Jack goes into the office for an interview and there's a window with an outside view...considering the way he got to the office, there's no way that office would have a window. There's lots of that. Like when Billy is riding his big wheel...."how'd I end up back here"?
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
"Room 237" and the channel Collative Learning address this. The architecture of the Overlook as seen in the film is flat out impossible. Doors to rooms are close together, but inside they're so huge they should be spilling into each other. Mapping out what's seen when Danny is riding his Big Wheel only adds further confusion
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Viking_Luchador It's like the tardus in Dr who lol....
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
Please edit that before I lose all respect for you Its TARDIS, always all capitalized, and Doctor Who, not Dr. Who
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 2 жыл бұрын
14:00 Nicholson getting ‘in the mood’ for the axe scene is the most memorable scene in the whole documentary.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
I also like that as a reserve fireman they had to use real doors and not lightweight props as he was buzz-sawing through them at a hell of a pace!
@marklowther3228
@marklowther3228 2 жыл бұрын
Love these "more" videos. keep them coming. I collect autographs and the Shining fills up one of my little binders. I met the Grady Twins and Danny at a con not too long ago. The gem in my Shining collection? Scatman Crothers.
@townlinetim876
@townlinetim876 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome 👏
@Sabrina79
@Sabrina79 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you are so lucky! I would have loved to meet Scatman. And Danny and the Grady twins, too of course. But Scatman, wow!
@marklowther3228
@marklowther3228 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sabrina79 He was a very stoic man, Thank you.
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop
@jimmymelendez1836
@jimmymelendez1836 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's awesome!
@italosblogtalkradio4279
@italosblogtalkradio4279 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Minty in the sense that both Kubrick and King clashing made the movie so rich in symbolism and enigmatic cause there are two great minds at play. Thanks for covering 10 more things, I’m loving this!
@that80sguy84
@that80sguy84 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually been to the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. It was very beautiful and they took us on a tour and talked about Stephen King’ stay, they showed us Room 217, and they even talked about the hotel scene from Dumb and Dumber (1994) was filmed there too.
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 2 жыл бұрын
Which was it again? Was it 217 in the Movie and 237 in the book, vice versa? Or was it some other numbers. I forget which one it was. Edit: Nevermind, Minty actually answered my question in his memorabilia segment.
@HamTheOriginal
@HamTheOriginal 7 күн бұрын
*King’s
@johnc4462
@johnc4462 2 жыл бұрын
I was a little kid when this movie came out and it was loved by everybody. I remember it being a huge hit. Excellent video!!!!
@sunnyscott4876
@sunnyscott4876 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was rather odd that the Torrances would only come to the Overlook one day before closing if they were expected to look after that huge hotel for months. You'd have think they could have spent at least a week there before closing to find their way around and know where things were. That has always been my biggest glitch in the story.
@cathydanielson9995
@cathydanielson9995 2 жыл бұрын
This was also true of the original book (the Torrance family showing up as everyone else was checking out.) There was so much about the book that Kubrick didn't keep that I think this had to be a deliberate choice on his part. . But I would say that this is even stranger in the movie because Jack isn't taking over from a regular caretaker who stays there for the entire season, as he is in the book. This is actually a really strange thing about the film, and I've never thought of it before. What kind of sense does it make to NOT have a regular caretaker who's there for the season when the hotel is open? (remembering that Halloran is just the cook, not a caretaker.) There has to be a reason why Kubrick chose to make that change.
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just another example of the hotel management not really caring.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx Жыл бұрын
It plays into Jack having always been there. The dejavu that he’s been there before. And in my opinion that Ullman and Watson are extensions of the hotel that doesn’t want everything to go right and are setting him up for disaster.
@JonnyMack33
@JonnyMack33 Жыл бұрын
Really? THAT was the biggest glitch? Not ever thinking that they could have been brought in as an emergency or something?
@loboblanco4426
@loboblanco4426 2 жыл бұрын
I love how King came up with the idea for The Shining. With his mind it's just as likely That he came up with Maximum Overdrive one morning when his toast didn't pop all the way up and when he was using a fork to pull it out he got a shock. Then he tripped over the cord, etc. etc.
@gokugoma3258
@gokugoma3258 2 жыл бұрын
You know how he came up with the idea for Kingdom hospital?
@loboblanco4426
@loboblanco4426 2 жыл бұрын
@@gokugoma3258 I do not
@brettrobinson2901
@brettrobinson2901 2 жыл бұрын
@@gokugoma3258 Best to go to King's house ...knock on the door..when he answers ...DEMAND A FRIGGEN EXPLANATION!!!👺
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 2 жыл бұрын
Drugs. It's not that complicated.
@awnaur0no919
@awnaur0no919 2 жыл бұрын
i imagine it came to him while remembering his ICU hospitalization & tha multiple life threatening surgeries he endured after he got run over by bryan smith in 99
@prompterbob
@prompterbob 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for years and always wanted to drop you a note about how much I enjoy them. This one on The Shining is one of your best. So well researched and written. Keep them coming.
@ingersollelliott
@ingersollelliott 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch! So glad you shared more from your collection - the key ring rocks! As always, exceptional work!
@purpletomatocinema
@purpletomatocinema 2 жыл бұрын
Cary Guffey's parents didn't want him to play in The Shining because it was too horrific. Yeah and him being kidnapped by aliens was not horrific
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 2 жыл бұрын
A masterpiece from start to finish. Shelley Duvall doesn't get a lot of credit. It's funny that in the beginning, they mention how much she is a fan of horror films...well, towards the end, she gets the horror movie of her life. I like the book but the film is more interesting. And yeah the TV miniseries is not the greatest thing but it has some decent moments here and there. Yeah, there are some interesting analyses about the Shining but the moon landing theory is just dumb.
@rpc717
@rpc717 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't disagree more about the book vs. movie. The book is an absolute masterpiece of horror, but I found the movie to be a tremendous letdown in comparison. I agree completely about the moon landing theory, though. It's a ridiculous thing to think, BUT it does appear that Kubrick was trolling the conspiracy theory nuts. 😂😂😂
@gokugoma3258
@gokugoma3258 2 жыл бұрын
The book is incredible
@fcove5453
@fcove5453 2 жыл бұрын
I also like Dr. Sleep
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Shelley Duvall got a Razzie nomination for The Shining.
@Tenkai917
@Tenkai917 2 жыл бұрын
Shelley Duvall has unfortunately become a real-life crazy person.
@troyarrington5485
@troyarrington5485 2 жыл бұрын
After 42 years,I still find this movie fascinating. In my opinion,Jack Nicholson's performance was brilliant! It made me a fan of his!
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
The shining is a movie that you have to watch over and over to get what it’s about it’s totally a very good movie classic in it’s own way…👍
@DrFunk-rk6yl
@DrFunk-rk6yl 2 жыл бұрын
It's also a movie that gets better every time you watch it.
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrFunk-rk6yl totally 💯 agree with you
@rickytoddbotelho9555
@rickytoddbotelho9555 2 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the most remarkable movies ever made. And one of the greatest cinema experiences I've ever had. This coming from someone who came from a broken home. When seeing this originally, I was awesteuck because jack seemed so much like dad. And givens the extreme pressure of the circumstances he is faced with, long Winter nights in a haunted hotel while trying to write and keep up with current affairs. And having a small child I could sympathize with both Danny and Jack. Making it even more chilling because it's like voting for either the zombies or the human survivors in an apocalyptic zombie movie. Absolutely a great movie. And as far as movie posters my favorite is the one they chose, but my runner up would be one with Steve's clown face on it ' what the fuck happened?!"😝
@FLAVCO
@FLAVCO 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly part of what makes The Shining so uncomfortable is the dysfunctional family scenario. Watching the adults fighting brings back a lot of unpleasant painful memories from childhood experience that many of us try to forget! Kubrick knew what he was doing! 😳
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 2 жыл бұрын
Watch "The Wendy Theory". It explains everything.
@StevenMichaelCunningham
@StevenMichaelCunningham 2 жыл бұрын
It was surreal. I found it hard to accept it could be a place in time & space at all with such energy involved. One would think there would be wandering sages & monks alike warding all the world in ceremonial dance.
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes; I've said it many times - The Shining and Mommie Dearest are totally different movies depending on whether or not you grew up in an abusive home. I've been to screenings of both where the majority of the audience laughed like they were at a Three Stooges comedy. Meanwhile, you can see that some viewers are sitting there experiencing flashbacks.
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott 2 жыл бұрын
I think the issue with King was that he based jack on himself, and his own problems. But jack in the movie is very different, and maybe that rubs him
@Axolotl_Mischief
@Axolotl_Mischief 2 жыл бұрын
Between the novel and the film the characterization for the entire family was off, I can totally understand why he hates it, it's a poor representation of the source material on many levels.
@andrewgrove1691
@andrewgrove1691 2 жыл бұрын
The book is completely different from the movie
@neoasura
@neoasura 2 жыл бұрын
I do wish they showed the more sympathetic side of Jack like they do in the book, you feel bad for him more. In the movie, he just starts off already unlikable and angry.
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
EVERY Stephen King protagonist is based on Stephen King! Oh look at that, a writer with a drinking problem! I wonder who could possibly have been his inspiration??
@silvervalleystudios2486
@silvervalleystudios2486 2 жыл бұрын
I thing that Kubrick is just as slow and poetic as King is with his method of storytelling.
@quillmaster-uk
@quillmaster-uk 2 жыл бұрын
Having read the book, I was amazed the scene where Jack briefly regains control and realises he's possessed (warning his wife to run in the process) didn't make it into the movie. It was truly chilling to read as you realise that he is truly damned and not in control.
@jaytrace1006
@jaytrace1006 2 жыл бұрын
“The Shining” reminds me, in its pacing, of the proverbial frog in a pan of lukewarm water on a stove, with heat gradually added. The frog doesn’t notice he’s being cooked until it’s too late.
@splatter639
@splatter639 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Bishop.... Your one of the best movie history KZbinrs. Love ya man. Your so precise and do extensive study. Much respect
@Thirdeye1001
@Thirdeye1001 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, heck yeah, Minty! This is a great movie! Thanks for your post!
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 2 жыл бұрын
14:17 Having been an extra in movies and a TV show, I can tell you ALL group scenes are mimed. For 2 reasons. One, the director and editors can hear the dialogue of the main actors, and may even choose to use the “live” soundtrack for a scene. Two, money. If an extra speaks, they have to be paid more. This is set forth by the Screen Actors Guild. If an extra has a line, he then is considered a Featured Extra and is paid a different scale. Paying a room of extras for talking all day for repeated shoots could get pretty expensive. There is at least one loophole though - singing. I was in a church scene for the TV show Army Wives. We actually sang out of the real hymnals in the church. They made sure the song was in the public domain so no royalties had to be paid. Interestingly, that same scene had one of the extras play the preacher. But they mostly filmed him from behind and a crew member spoke the preacher’s homily off-screen, yet again to save money through another loophole. I had as much fun watching and learning movie craft as I did acting and meeting people/hanging out between scenes. Btw, the ticket to becoming a featured extra was just showing up every day you were called, staying late if ever asked, always being quick to your mark, and being there A LOT. Getting a line is seen as a “thank you” from the director.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Minty. Liking this new series on your channel. 👍
@jameswhitman7127
@jameswhitman7127 2 жыл бұрын
I never considered your final comment on the polarizing approaches of King and Kubrick impacting the unique outcome of the film. Appreciate that!
@GenXrecluse
@GenXrecluse 2 жыл бұрын
The cig butt thing is a military deal, you do that so the enemy can't track your movement.
@feck2594
@feck2594 2 жыл бұрын
I still do it to this day .
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
Shredding them into balls though? I get not discarding them but not that.
@johnkean6852
@johnkean6852 2 жыл бұрын
How ironic people are appalled at his balling habit but not his nicotine addiction LOL
@HamTheOriginal
@HamTheOriginal 7 күн бұрын
-run-on sentence
@GenXrecluse
@GenXrecluse 7 күн бұрын
@HamTheOriginal yep, I do that alot, I'm not writing a book man.
@brigoose7945
@brigoose7945 2 жыл бұрын
The sequel to this is also bloody brilliant.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 2 жыл бұрын
i didnt watch dr sleep for the longest time because i didn’t want to get disappointed. But… They nailed it. Absolutely Hit it out of the park
@FUBARguy107
@FUBARguy107 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned the cigarette filter box Kubrick had some time back. I jokingly said "he was making sure there were no spy microphones".
@T-Bag13
@T-Bag13 2 жыл бұрын
Robin Williams would of played a brilliant role as Jack.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Look at his performances in the likes of Insomnia and 24 Hour Photo! Being known more for comedy and yet him being a great actor made the times he darkened his acting for a serious role really have an impact!
@Kendrix1
@Kendrix1 5 ай бұрын
Great idea. Agree with you 100%
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this with my mother and siblings while stopped on the way to staying in a cabin in the mountains, suffice to say we were quite terrified. I find it hard to believe anyone who saw it on the big screen disliked this masterpiece.
@saint.vitus.7775
@saint.vitus.7775 2 жыл бұрын
I never saw the Shining in theaters - but i would have seen it on cable - at around age 12 or 13 - probably alone while my Mom worked evenings. It scared the living crap out of me for years.That bathtub - as a young 13 year old - was one of the most enticing and terrifying things imaginable. And yet i kept coming back to it. It haunted me in more ways than one. I've seen this movie now dozens of times, and while the scare factor has decreased, the sense of dread and of psychological horror have never left. And now i'm better able to appreciate the sheer artistry involved in this films creation. Thanks for the fun video - i loved the bit about your memorabilia.
@bpo1975
@bpo1975 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine trying to decide if you wanted to see THE SHINING or EMPIRE STRIKES BACK on opening weekend of 1982?
@bonghunezhou5051
@bonghunezhou5051 2 жыл бұрын
NO! (Neither premiered in summer of 1982 ~
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 2 жыл бұрын
It was opening weekend of 1980. What a year!! Empire Strikes Back, the Shining, & Friday the 13th, all in the same year!!!
@AbstractS04
@AbstractS04 2 ай бұрын
​@@brandonpage7087honestly, I would have done a marathon
@RDSwords
@RDSwords 2 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to look back on The Shining now with the added story elements from Doctor Sleep
@ll7868
@ll7868 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Empire on opening weekend. The first time I saw The Shining was in 1981 when it came out on VHS, my dad bought it instead of renting it because it was a favourite of his, he saw it 3 or 4 times in theatres. The cover art was different than the poster, it was a small square picture of Jack frozen in the snow on a black and neon green checkered design, I was 11 and that photo looked like a zombie to me, Dawn of the Dead was a favourite horror of mine so of course I had to watch it. I was a little bit disappointed there were no zombies but the nekkid chick in the tub freaked me out.
@ll7868
@ll7868 2 жыл бұрын
I just looked up how much my dad paid for an original VHS copy of The Shining, roughly $80 Canadian. Someone on eBay is selling a copy for $9,000!!! Holy shit!!!
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 2 жыл бұрын
Human fella, me too! That & the scene with the guy in the bear suit & the other guy.
@ll7868
@ll7868 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonpage7087 To this day if I go in a bathroom and the shower curtains block my view of the bathtub I open the curtains to make sure there's nobody having a soak, just in case. I don't even believe in the supernatural but that scene stuck with me.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 2 жыл бұрын
The carped pattern at 18:10 looks a lot like the pattern of the hallway wallpaper seen in Sid's house in the first Toy Story Movie.
@hookybrickshooky9529
@hookybrickshooky9529 2 жыл бұрын
The face in the Shining poster looks very much like a certain face featured a short moment in the movie The Exorcist. Considering that Kubrick was offered to direct The Exorcist, I think it's possible.
@eeejaybee3137
@eeejaybee3137 2 жыл бұрын
24:52 Shelly Duvall absolutely nails her character in this movie.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 2 жыл бұрын
22:15 The Grady Twins are the creepiest scene in the whole film in my opinion, I have no idea why.
@TheBOG3
@TheBOG3 2 жыл бұрын
In the film when the guy who hires Jack talks about the tragedy of Grady killing his family, he mentions that Grady's girls were something like 8 and 10 years old when they were murdered. They weren't supposed to be twins, just sisters that were a couple of years apart.
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBOG3 They always reminded me of my sister and me. We were a year apart, but Mom was a twin and didn't know how to raise two girls any other way. So she gave us rhyming names and always dressed us alike. There's a picture of us somewhere in blue dresses that look kind of like the ones in the movie.
@TheBOG3
@TheBOG3 2 жыл бұрын
@@ttintagel A year apart? They call that "Irish Twins."
@maccurtis730
@maccurtis730 2 жыл бұрын
The Shinning has one of the best creepy feels to it in film history.
@thorsmith9545
@thorsmith9545 2 жыл бұрын
I personally love Doctor Sleep. What a great movie that captures the some of the essence of the original.
@TravelingBuildingGrowing
@TravelingBuildingGrowing 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad Kubrick's shining ruined the storyline of the Dr. Sleep movie.
@jediknightjairinaiki560
@jediknightjairinaiki560 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen it in its entirety. It gives off a creepy, uncomfortable vibe. I've worked security at the Stanley Hotel but have never seen a ghost.
@LawyerPanda
@LawyerPanda 2 жыл бұрын
I got to visit the Timberland Lodge where the exterior shots of the hotel were filmed back in 2015. Pretty neat to be there! I even bought a Christmas tree ornaments featuring the hotel exterior.
@fairera
@fairera 2 жыл бұрын
My first acknowledgment and memory of that movie was when I was a kid and the movie was airing on the tv set of the family we were paying a short visit, and the ambiant and the music of a corridor scene completely hypnotized me... i didn't know what it was but recognized the movie when I watched it years later
@themetalone7739
@themetalone7739 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to know what that weird, random scene with the dude and another dude in some weird animal costume was all about...here ya go: In the book, Jack spends a bunch of time in the basement of the hotel, going over old records and newspaper articles about the hotel. He learns a TON of stuff that has 0 relevance to anything beyond the page it is written on but, due to that section, we learn that the hotel has a shady past, mainly due to the people that owned it (pretty sure one previous owner had been a mob boss or something). Anyway, you see what I mean about useless info. So, it turns out that the son of the owner loves to throw parties in the hotel ballroom. The son is pretty much the stereotype of a spoiled son of someone wealthy, and he's gay. He has a boyfriend who dresses as a bear during a party in the hotel, acting like the animal. The spoiled son enjoys mocking his BF, who is likely with him for the money, and oh...apparently they're furries, as well. At least, on occasion. So what you caught a glimpse of, in that scene in the movie, was a man in a bear suit about to throw down mighty on that other man. (Read this one twice, but it's been like, 8 years since I last read it. Some details might be off, but the point is the same)
@loboblanco4426
@loboblanco4426 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for untwisting some of the plot spots for me.
@EndlessLaymon
@EndlessLaymon 2 жыл бұрын
The subplot of the Jack discovering the history of has lots of relevance in the book. 1 Jack decides to write and the book on the overlook and 2 uses his knowledge to get back at the owners of the Overlook who in the book detest Jack and didn't want him for the job.
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Finally, mystery solved. When I was a kid, upon seeing the Shining, for the first time, that scene freaked me out, & stuck with me for many years afterwards. Good to finally have some sort of explanation for the scene.
@themetalone7739
@themetalone7739 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonpage7087 Yeah, I always thought it was a VERY weird choice for them to include that scene at all, as they literally give you no information in the movie that explains this in any way.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
Horace Derwent, the unsavoury entrepreneur.
@a.d.l.r.4351
@a.d.l.r.4351 2 жыл бұрын
Photo editing has been a highly skilled job for decades but Photoshop did not exist at the time this movie was produced. Love your work sir!
@v-town1980
@v-town1980 2 жыл бұрын
I love the US cardboard vhs packaging. Something clean and personal about its texture and look. I remember watching this film as a kid in the early 80s. My parents watched it with me and made me turn my head from the tv when the nude scene was on. Classic film.
@cathyaudette1060
@cathyaudette1060 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the trailer for The Shining at a showing of Superman - The Movie. I've always been a horror fan and was just 23 when The Shining premiered. The Trailer fascinated the voracious horror fan in me, and I was determined to see the movie. I had already read the book and knew this movie would be a winner. The Shining is one of my most favorite movies ever, and I never miss it when it is shown on television at Halloween.
@matthewalexanderlemma8000
@matthewalexanderlemma8000 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe in the theory that there are undertones having to do with the Native American genocide. I also believe Jack Torrance was part of the Overlook Hotel in a previous life. This is implied when he’s eating breakfast in bed and says he seems to know what’s around every corner of the hotel.
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention when that "ghost" in the bathroom, tells Jack that he's always been the caretaker of the Overlook.
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
When Ullman is giving Jack & Wendy the tour, he casually mentions that the Overlook was built on a burial ground and that construction crews fought off raids. In the Colorado Room, he describes the art as being from various tribes that at best had nothing to do with each other, and at worst were enemies. So clearly there was no input, they just threw in whatever looked nice
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 2 жыл бұрын
I heard a pretty good theory that Jack doesn't actually look the way he does in the movie, that he's possessed by the ghost of someone who looked like that, who is the guy in the picture.
@lasvegasnextexit1230
@lasvegasnextexit1230 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when The Shining came out, it didn't get much attention until it's video as well as it's cable TV release and was when I first saw it. I hear a bunch of people say they didn't like it on their first viewing BUT I think folks that feel that way, they totally get the movie without realizing it. The movie makes the viewer uneasy and since raises more questions than it answers in the viewers mind, they come away confused.....which was the point of the movie. The Shining is a true Psychological Horror film
@tempestfury8324
@tempestfury8324 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true. The Shining was released the same weekend as The Empire Strikes Back (oops!) and only had a limited release. It wasn't that the film didn't get much attention, it certainly did! It was overshadowed by the most anticipated movie in the world. The film actually did fairly well despite it's competition and it's small distribution.
@rsine100
@rsine100 2 жыл бұрын
Jack wasn't Photoshopped into the final image of the movie. He was airbrushed in. Photoshop didn't exist back then.
@pucknorris3473
@pucknorris3473 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure hanging out at your house and playing The Shining board game and watching sick ass movies out of your video store is probably the only thing there is to do in Australia... maybe one day I'll fly out
@lexiburrows8127
@lexiburrows8127 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood why Mr. Hallorann was killed in the movie. Not only did he survive in the book, he also appeared in the beginning of the much later sequel, Doctor Sleep. Halloran's death in the movie did not even make any sense as all he did was turn up at the hotel and get killed. What was the point of that?
@MrWoodMan23
@MrWoodMan23 2 жыл бұрын
King is very accurate in saying that books and movies are indeed apples and oranges. 🍎🍊
@aegisgfx
@aegisgfx 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think they could have photoshopped anything into that picture since photoshop did not exist at that time. Like it was a physical splice of Jacks had onto the picture, then re-photographed
@worksbydandeprez
@worksbydandeprez 2 жыл бұрын
"...interpretating it"? You may be interested to know that there's a word ("interpreting") that says the same thing but actually belongs in the English language. An actor is "cast" in a role, not "casted." I would expect a video like this to be free of mistakes that the average 16-year-old wouldn't make.
@jonsprong1842
@jonsprong1842 2 жыл бұрын
Another tremendous video, Minty. I love your memorabilia collection as well.
@gregmeyer9595
@gregmeyer9595 2 жыл бұрын
I HIGHLY suggest everyone watch the Shining the Wendy Theory. Everyone knows that Kubrick was notorious for literally setting up every scene, placing everything in each shot. He also kept rewriting the script and no one understood many of his changes. And many point out that there are too many errors with items being switched out from shot to shot. He also put actress Shelley Duvall thru hell. He did this because his story was actually about Wendy Torrance going crazy, not Jack. The video explains it in a way that if you're a fan of Kubrick, it makes sense.
@melissateague3936
@melissateague3936 2 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite theory on this film
@carishaw4143
@carishaw4143 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love the Wendy theory. Well worth the watch
@CroatiaBall273
@CroatiaBall273 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory for the ballroom scene I think these people are a hallucination from jack that ambiguously (if that makes sense or not) interact with things and that jack might have a psychic ability but can't use it all the time as it might have to recharge but with you can only open doors and feel things that the viewer doesn't know if it's real or not but I think that Delbert Grady and Jack Torrance are the same person because after jack becomes the overlook's caretaker he gets hit with deja vu as he remembers that in his past life before he was born as jack he was Delbert Grady and remembered that when he lived the life of Delbert Grady he liked killing people and killed his family so that lead to his second mental breakdown and tried to do that again on wendy and danny
@MrEnergee1987
@MrEnergee1987 2 жыл бұрын
Three years after this Angela Baker was a lot more scarier in Sleepaway Camp
@markfrancis1369
@markfrancis1369 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the new logo minty!!! 🤘🏼 genius!!! Keep up the stellar work dude!!!
@Merylstreep1949
@Merylstreep1949 2 жыл бұрын
Kubrick would win the argument simply by bringing up Maximum Overdrive Lol 😆
@BuckarooBanzai84
@BuckarooBanzai84 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, here's MY fan-theory; my interpretation of the ending is that Jack's soul has been absorbed into the hotel along with all the others, kind of like in 'The Witches'. (also, please do 'Dr. Sleep'!) =)
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
That's my take on it too. Not all but some of the others in that end photo could have been 'acquired' in the same way.
@BuckarooBanzai84
@BuckarooBanzai84 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylined5534 Exactly! The hotel is supposed to be cursed! =)
@erikliljenwall8185
@erikliljenwall8185 2 жыл бұрын
Jack's over the top acting, as perfect as it is, usually gets all of the attention, but in my opinion, Shelley Duvall's performance is the real gem of the film. It's not obvious on first viewing, in fact I hated it the first time I saw it. But I eventually came to see the complexity and nuance of Duvall's Wendy: a woman who is regularly abused by her husband trying to remain hopeful while locked in a snow-bound hotel for months on end with the man she loves and fears, and her child who she has to protect. Being cheerful is about all she's able to do for most of the movie, so she lays it on thick. It comes off as corny sometimes, but that's how it would have seemed in real life. Also consider that this story takes place in 1979-1980 or so, when women had much fewer rights that today. (e.g., Women had only gained the right to have their own credit cards in 1974). With a good understanding of the world in which Wendy and her family live, the scene in which Wendy describes Danny's previous injury to the doctor becomes one the most terrifying scenes in the whole film. It's so deeply nuanced, and perfectly acted. I'm always struck by the way the word "alcohol" catches in Wendy's throat a the end of her monologue. And, of course, the doctor's shocked facial expression is priceless. I'm also glad you mentioned the fire. I've long had a theory about the fire, which I've never heard put forward by anyone. I think the fire and rebuilding of the set may explain many of the strange "continuity errors" throughout the film. Considering that most of these anomalies seem to occur in the very room that was destroyed in the fire, it's certainly possible. People have obsessed for years about the vintage typewriter changing to a different model, the (antique?) chairs appearing and disappearing, the large, one-of-a-kind driftwood sculpture vanishing, etc. If these props proved difficult or even outright impossible to replace after the fire, they would have had no choice but to make do with what was available. Continuity errors would have been unavoidable without re-shooting every affected scene, which would have been out of the question as the whole shoot was already months behind schedule. Also consider how much the movie-watching experience has changed in the last 40+ years. Today we can stream or download nearly any movie whenever we want or we can buy a copy on DVD, BluRay, or 4KBluRay and we can obsess over every frame if we want. These abilities were unimaginable in 1980. VHS and Beta was still a new and expensive medium so movies were shown in theaters for a few weeks or months and then likely forgotten. The idea of re-shooting anything after the set was rebuilt, just for the sake of continuity, would have been out of the question. It's doubtful anyone would have even argued for re-shoots then anyway. There would have been no payoff I don't know when in the shooting schedule that fire took place, or how much was shot prior to it, so this could be another nonsense theory. But I think it's worth taking a look at, if anyone has the documents needed for this kind of analysis.
@Theggman83
@Theggman83 2 жыл бұрын
The remake is pretty good. Stephen Webber did a good job.
@billg3356
@billg3356 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer King's short stories and novellas to his full-length novels, so I've never read The Shining. But I remember reading The Body after seeing Stand By Me, and found them to be pretty close. So I think that King's admiration for Stand By Me has more to do with Reiner (and his screenwriters) not deviating too much from the source material, whereas Kubrick really made The Shining his own. Also King agreeing to Kubrick's version of The Overlook for the third act of Dr. Sleep seems like a begrudging acknowledgment that Kubrick's film is the more widely known version of The Shining.
@georgejones3526
@georgejones3526 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the most enjoyable writing I’ve come across was by Stephen King when he would just be telling a story. My examples are The Body, Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption and in the novel It, when he would write about events experienced by the children.
@Viking_Luchador
@Viking_Luchador 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call It a simple story in the same vein as The Body or Rita Hayworth... Not counting the works of Richard Bachman, I'd say Misery is one of his most down to Earth novels
@peterisnardi1197
@peterisnardi1197 2 жыл бұрын
SK's Shining is a whole other animal from SK's Shining(interpret that how you will)...Kubrik's movie is like the book with its themes and emotions removed...its an adaptation on the surface, but its like seeing an act of violence without knowing the root cause and drawing one's own conclusion...
@georgejones3526
@georgejones3526 2 жыл бұрын
@@Viking_Luchador I guess the two novellas stand out for me because they weren’t about horror.
@mikemcgill9874
@mikemcgill9874 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all of Kings works stem from The dark tower series (which are based on the poem by the same name).Stephen is one of my top three authors. It is absolutely terrifying. One of the few books I've read more than once (3) .He can make you feel terror over the most mundane things.
@dianecaldwell1831
@dianecaldwell1831 2 жыл бұрын
Another great Part Deux, Minty. Please keep ‘em coming!
@ytubeanon
@ytubeanon 2 жыл бұрын
I just heard a podcast (who knows if this is true) that said Stephen King got the idea for the Shining while he and his family went on a vacation... King tried to do some writing, but his kid(s) were making too much noise, King imagined killing them for the sweet relief of silence, and from there that's how he got the idea for the Shining
@TheInsultInvestor
@TheInsultInvestor 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. Weirdo
@ytubeanon
@ytubeanon 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheInsultInvestor you're the weirdo
@TheInsultInvestor
@TheInsultInvestor 2 жыл бұрын
@@ytubeanon No, you.
@Michael-bl4no
@Michael-bl4no 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on this one, Minty. Never noticed Jack’s tie before!
@chasevids14
@chasevids14 2 жыл бұрын
At first I had Kubricks shining alittle lower on my favorite horror movie list due to it not being like the book which I prefer. However after I watched doctor sleep which is a damn fine horror movie in its own right, Kubricks shining shot up to number 1 for me. I like how doctor sleep’s ending is basically the book ending of the shining except Danny is in Jack’s shoes and then the overlook burns down like it did in the book bringing things full circle. I never expected a sequel would bring up my rating on its predecessor but damn both are masterpieces.
@cravenmoordik
@cravenmoordik 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of 217 beer glasses that my parents bought me when they stayed at the Stanely hotel
@jacobpitsenbarger4763
@jacobpitsenbarger4763 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Stephen King fan. I just finished The Stand. Currently reading IT. But I think this movie is a rare example of "movie was better than the book" and there's no way King doesn't secretly appreciate the artistic vision of this film. He's salty that his story had been changed so much. But they're all changes for the better. Maybe King is jealous that Kubrick did The Shining better than he did. Kubrick is simply a master and the best director of all time.
@soitsanightmare
@soitsanightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Nahh, king hates it cuz it butchered his book. It has no heart and king is big on all his stories having that. Pubrick was good but way overrated for having 500 meanings in every science with no flaws. It's bullshit, eat it up buttercup.
@troubleinbound
@troubleinbound 2 жыл бұрын
That's the opinion I've held ever since reading the novel. I always thought it was a controversial opinion, too.
@jamesgarner8262
@jamesgarner8262 2 жыл бұрын
"Here's Johnny!"
@Leelz247
@Leelz247 2 жыл бұрын
In the book Jack wasn't actually "always the caretaker" so making him a reincarnation or an immortal as seen is the photo is just a weird departure. I think there are just too many things things didn't fit for King that messed with the original intent. In the end of the book, Jack sacrificed himself for his son too. I would be pissed off too if a character I created had no redeeming characteristics. But I like both the book and the movie.
@aindovin
@aindovin 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your videos! They are truly a pleasure and one of my favorite channels Im subscribed to! I thought I heard everything about the Shining but you offered some new facts! Awesome!
@ryangillis4626
@ryangillis4626 2 жыл бұрын
"I didn't hurt one hair on his goddamn head. I love the little son of a bitch " - Jack Torrens
@ldizzy86
@ldizzy86 2 жыл бұрын
Hey minty You should do a video on serial mom That would be dope
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 2 жыл бұрын
I love the movie, but I always cast William Hurt as Jack in my mind when I read the book.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
I would never have thought of that... Good choice!
@SuperMarioBrosIII
@SuperMarioBrosIII 2 жыл бұрын
@TheSpaceBetweenOurHouses William Hurt is better then Steven Weber in the 1997 remake LOL! 🤔🗻⛰🚗
@wildbutterflytiedye
@wildbutterflytiedye 2 жыл бұрын
Love ur stuff Minty~My husband and I watch all your videos several times each~I have watched this one already 4 times~Keep up the great video content
@noninoni9962
@noninoni9962 2 жыл бұрын
I think I read about every King book in my late teens and 20's I eventually stopped sometime after The Shinning, which I really liked, and a lot more than the movie... I hated the paranormal storyline being dumped in lieu of Jack "losing his marbles" arc...But then, there were all the other paranormal stuff going on, so it didn't make sense. It's been decades since I read the novel, but one thing I can remember, and upset they weren't in the movie, were the topiaries that "came to life." They were much cooler and scarier than the huge unimaginative maze... The Shining is one of the few stories where there was a great ending vs. most of his other book's endings seemed to just fall off the edge of Earth... Very disappointing to read 800+ exciting pages, only for the conclusions to be only a few pages long. The main reason I quit buying his books was the lousy endings... I liken them to "Dumb & Dumber's" excellerated, shorthanded writing of GoT's ending season... Like King wanting to hurry and finish his novels, so he could start another one (probably already in progress), they ended just as badly as GoT (LOL, well, maybe not THAT bad) as they all were in such a big dang hurry to move on.
@matthewwankdog87
@matthewwankdog87 2 жыл бұрын
i must have read about 20 king books so far and haven't yet come across a bad ending
@Hkislandlife
@Hkislandlife 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review mate. I always find your videos really interesting and you have some cool memorabilia. Thanks for making this!
@chatanugadotorg
@chatanugadotorg 2 жыл бұрын
The Shining is one of those movies that you have to see more than once to really begin to understand/interpret. For me, I see the Overlook as a portal to a nightmare dimension. Things seem normal when you see them, but something isn't quite right, like in a nightmare when we're asleep. Look at when Jack and Wendy are talking about the approaching storm and interruptions. The chair in the background disappears briefly between shots of Jack. When Halloran is showing Wendy and Danny the store room, they pass a door before going around the corner to go into the store room. However, that door isn't on the inside of the store room. Same thing with the window in Ullman's office. That window shouldn't exist as it's facing either the elevator or a hallway.
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think those were put into the film on purpose. Minty touched upon these issues with the structure of the hotel, in his first 10 Things video, on the Shining.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i saw room 237 too
@markfrancis1369
@markfrancis1369 2 жыл бұрын
I,just came back from snowboarding in alaska. At a resort called alyeska. The hotel is eerily similar to the overlook hotel!!!
@crashers17
@crashers17 2 жыл бұрын
Kubrick is my favorite director of all time and I love this movie. Not so crazy about,how he treated Shelley Duvall though. She definitely doesn't get enough credit for her performance. She was outstanding and completely believable. Sure, Nicholson is awesome but Shelley was also,just saying.
@tawnieriekena7
@tawnieriekena7 2 жыл бұрын
The rumors about mistreatment are not true. Ms Duvall has repeatedly publicly stated there was no mistreatment.
@crashers17
@crashers17 2 жыл бұрын
@@tawnieriekena7 Wasn't rumors..I just read an article where Duvall talks about it. She holds no I'll will towards Kubrick but he did mistreat her.
@tawnieriekena7
@tawnieriekena7 2 жыл бұрын
@@crashers17 that's bullshit. I was on the film crew.
@crashers17
@crashers17 2 жыл бұрын
@@tawnieriekena7 I googled the complete crew list and surprise, surprise you're not on it.
@tawnieriekena7
@tawnieriekena7 2 жыл бұрын
@@crashers17 I don't use my unmaried name online.
@AnimeOtakuDrew
@AnimeOtakuDrew 2 жыл бұрын
Stanley Kubrick's The Shining. One of the greatest films ever made and simultaneously one of the worst page-to-screen adaptations. This film is one of the few movies that I truly believe everyone should see at least once, no matter how they feel about Stephen King, no matter how they feel about Stanley Kubrick, no matter how they feel about horror films. At the same time, for fans of King's novel who want to see a faithful adaptation, I must give the strongest recommendation for the 1997 miniseries starring Steven Weber and Rebecca De Mornay. It may not have the production values of Kubrick's film since it was made on a TV budget, but it is a true and faithful adaptation of the original novel. I would love to see a miniseries adaptation of Doctor Sleep with the original cast reprising their roles to give an equally faithful adaptation of the sequel. One thing I always wondered about the movie. I already knew that the kid who played Danny wasn't told what kind of movie he was making during the production, but I'm curious how long it was before he found out what the movie really was and before he actually saw the film.
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 2 жыл бұрын
The Wendy Theory is very likely. Its very possible Wendy was the crazy one and after watching several videos on it, it absolutely fits.
@alleahsasseville
@alleahsasseville 2 жыл бұрын
Your book is BEAUTIFUL!!! 🧡🖤❤
@shinola
@shinola 2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t puzzling why he’s softer on “Stand By Me.” Kubrick constantly challenged King on his story, and Meathead fawned over the material. King’s ego has always eclipsed his talent.
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's because of the Jack character entirely. I can understand that. Jack is the heart of the book. At first he's nice and a great father, but as he devolves into alcoholism he becomes psychotic. In the movie Jack is just crazy. Thus removing the point of the story.
@erikthompson619
@erikthompson619 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, you can't really fault the guy for having issues with the director pretending to have a better understanding of the premise than he did himself. Personally I'm with King. The movie is bloated and pretentious, far from the everyday man approach that King always applies to even his most ambitious stories.
@gokugoma3258
@gokugoma3258 2 жыл бұрын
It's like you got kids but a complete stranger comes up to you and tell you.. you're not raising your kids right.. how would you feel then?
@shinola
@shinola 2 жыл бұрын
@@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy I disagree with Jack being nice and a great father in the book, where he has multiple violent instances which cause him to quit drinking. If Jack is someone who would be a textbook nice guy and loving father if it weren’t for the alcohol and spirits is more of a dodge than a character trait, especially since Jack is an analog for King. King portraying Jack Torrance is a nice guy who is a victim of his demons seems an awful lot like King trying to absolve himself if some of the shitty things he did when he was drinking heavily. But to your point, and this is a matter of personal taste, I think it’s not only more realistic but more entertaining to see Jack as a dangerous person inside of a family structure that tries to hold the illusion that he’s controllable, rather than a nice guy who is a victim of his demons (although I would have loved to see Jack Nicholson beat his own face in with a mallet at the end- that’s also a matter of personal taste).
@shinola
@shinola 2 жыл бұрын
@@gokugoma3258 it’s more like putting your baby up for adoption and then telling the adopted parents that you raised them better when they had it. Like King himself said, the book and movie are two different things, and the movie didn’t change the book at all- it’s a separate take on the same basic story (with ghost wasps, impossibly faulty boilers which would have caused the state to shut the hotel down, even in the 70’s, and a lot of other horseshit removed).
@cdjxman
@cdjxman 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great time all around for everyone involved in this movie! Geesh!🤪
@stevenolson7167
@stevenolson7167 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. When I first saw this movie, I couldn't figure out why people liked it. Now, years later, I'm completely obsessed. Kubrick is a magical genius.
@icebergthegamer
@icebergthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
Even know I knew all of these things, I can keep watching. Can never get enough of the shining content lol
@tattoou1222
@tattoou1222 2 жыл бұрын
After reading my first King novel back in grade 8 (Cujo) 40 years ago, I've been hooked on his story telling ever since and have read almost every book he's written and own every movie that is based on his novels/short stories, I can honestly say there is only a small handful I watch over and over again because they were well made imo, although they are always different from the original stories. Others are absolute train wrecks such as Desperation, The Mist, The Dark Tower, Dreamcatcher just to name a few of the worst of the bunch. It is impossible to make a King book into a movie and make it anywhere near as good as the book.
@lateshachurney5965
@lateshachurney5965 2 жыл бұрын
Minty, The outside shots of Timberline ski lodge are in my state. I have been there many times.
@rpc717
@rpc717 2 жыл бұрын
I think I commented this on your other Shining video, but when I was reading The Shining (long before the movie), Jack Nicholson WAS Jack Torrance. It was so obvious. That said, Michael Moriarty is a perfect alternative choice, maybe even better. Jessica Lange would have been great as Wendy - very close to my internal casting of Teri Garr. It's interesting that Kubrick took pains to hide the true nature of the film from Danny Lloyd, but tortured Shelley Duvall to the brink of madness to wring every ounce of despair he could from her.
@erikthompson619
@erikthompson619 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I read the book before seeing the movie too, and found few or no similarities between the two Jacks. Book-Torrance is mild-mannered at heart, full of remorse and eager to repent. Movie-Torrance is a thinly veiled loose cannon, a mean spirit and a catastrophe waiting to happen.
@erikthompson619
@erikthompson619 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice of Wendy there, though. Thanks for that, will ponder on it.
@rpc717
@rpc717 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know that I'm enamored with the Jack Torrance we ended up getting from Jack Nicholson - as you say, too much crazy and not enough "regular guy" - but before we got that portrayal it seemed like perfect casting. Maybe that's why in retrospect I feel like Michael Moriarty might have been the real perfect casting.
@filmbuff2777
@filmbuff2777 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikthompson619 Book Torrance was just formulaic run of the mill character arc crap.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikthompson619 He's more like Jack in the book after the hotel starts to get well and truly under his skin.
@marcusaureliusRomanEmperor
@marcusaureliusRomanEmperor 2 жыл бұрын
MINTY!!! Your awesome movie trivia has once again saved me from another boring Sunday morning. I was able to make my homemade pancakes while watching this video. Yes, I know what you’re thinking - the pancakes turned out great! I bought a fancy raspberry jam all the way from France. They tasted were great together and reminded me of the blood (or rust water) coming out of that awesome miniature lift (or elevator) in the movie. I thought about this all through breakfast. As always it is great to see all your awesome collectables related to the movie - I have that Mad magazine too. I’m always torn about doing the fold-in or keeping the magazine in pristine shape. Did you do yours? Finally, Keep up the good work and enjoy rocking those aviators. Do it!!!! ODB.
@tariqxl
@tariqxl 2 жыл бұрын
Never read the book as I'm not a fan of King, he doesn't write people so well. But did like the movie and if the difference of ideology is the true case, I agree with Kubrick in stance of the movie as I like the ambiguity and whether you believe in ghost or not, I like the that it lets you choose. I do like phsycological horrors like Jacobs ladder etc.
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