you can check out my new series "Building Janky Commander Decks" where i tackle some of these ideas: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXbGmoaphMiBhK8
@norrock12 жыл бұрын
So I watched your newer video on the Shrine deck. I think if you combine the idea for the shine deck and the enduring ideal deck it would be even more ridiculously power lol
@rothbox3 жыл бұрын
Song of Creation I've found works well with Pako and Haldan as you're essentially creating a hand in exile with Pako so discarding your hand is much less taxing.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
had it in my pako deck as well. great minds think alike i guess.
@leettoothpaste2 жыл бұрын
Hey oh, So I think you were spot on with your assessment of Thassa's oracle and Illuna. The deck is not at the CDH level. It is not at the casual level. It is somewhere in the middle - which is why I love it. I just recently built it and it is one of my favorite decks to play. The combo is difficult enough to pull off that when you do finally pull it off, it feels really good. most decks can react to it IF they plan accordingly so it ends up keeping everyone on their toes. Deckbuilding was challenging. One of the key things I noticed was that I really wanted cards to say "put the cards on the bottom of your library in ANY order" instead of "random" order to ensure that the oracle is truly on the bottom so that I can secure the win. I'm still working out some of the kinks, but overall, great deck idea. Bravo and thank you!
@coachgonzalezpg17423 жыл бұрын
Low key one of the best MTG channels on KZbin
@loxeggcheese2 жыл бұрын
Tivit just came out and I built an esper “opponents choice”/voting deck and it is so much fun to play. Took it too my lgs yesterday and had a blast!
@seanredmond13663 жыл бұрын
You have to add the Urza's lands (Tower, Mine, Power Plant) to the collection deck. Fits the theme and helps cast artifacts when assembled.
@Zendrig3 жыл бұрын
The "opponents' choice" idea is actually a huge aspect of my Kynaios and Tiro group hug deck. It helps deflect blame and keeps your deck off the threat radar.
@RickvantHof3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of assembling, I have a deck where my goal is to have a Protector of the Crown and give it indestructible and hexproof, making it so all damage I take is redirected to an indestrucle creature that draws me an additional card each turn. Since I'm playing a ton of equipment tutors in the deck I also play the Kaldra trio. Super fun :)
@travismoon10113 жыл бұрын
For the deck around Song of Creation, I feel adventure cards would work great too
@usernamemalfunctioning67683 жыл бұрын
I actually have a bruse and tana deck myself, so the video preview attracted me! didn't expect it to be artifact/enchantment hate though, mine is exalted, hahah. Great to see other people are brewing those two in unique and weird ways!
@eloidasarmi68153 жыл бұрын
About epic spells: the best thing I heard ever about them - multicasting them. Like Enduring Ideal+fork+fork=3 times better then just Ideal.
@avista15213 жыл бұрын
Keep pumping out these original ideas...awesome work Demo...Thank you!!
@shapooopiefour71733 жыл бұрын
I think that with the Epic cards, there’s a few really good ways to use any one of them: 1. Have a commander with expensive activated ability. Just steal your opponents’ creatures with Memnarch or get that creature you just discarded to the battlefield. Speaking of discard, 2. Maximum hand size. Two of them care about it, so why have seven snakes when you can have twelve? While you’re at it, there’s probably a few good ways to dump that useless hand of yours. 3. Landfall. Never said you couldn’t play lands 4 Flash. Just throw Vedalken Orrery in a five color deck and, late game or insane mana combos, get two Epics Edit: 5. Sheshiro. Snakes draw you cards? Cards give you Snakes? Spellbook? Thought Vessel? 3/3s EVERYWHERE!!!!!!! That’s all I can think of right now. Enchantments are cool, but why not abuse ALL of them?
@shapooopiefour71733 жыл бұрын
More in depth You can also use Mimic Vat to use your commander during Epic With Memnarch, his Epic doesn’t care about hand size, and you’re probably already in the market for colorless spells, so Kozilek? (the discard to counter one). I think there’s another one in blue too. And if you’re doing that, you can also include Magic Mirror to counter even more
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
here's a challenge. have vedalken orrery and cast an epic spell then respond to it with another one. 2 epics triggering every upkeep. now that's epic.
@bobpoltis72443 жыл бұрын
Assembler deck could also run Bubbling Cauldron, Festering Newt, and Bogbrew Witch
@mrpinguimninja3 жыл бұрын
Loved the Volrath idea, will definetly try to build it
@MhailAzure13 жыл бұрын
The stations from Mirrodin, the modules from Kaladesh, Vecna from Forgotten Realms. This is a rich vein of options that you could pull from
@sadberserkr3 жыл бұрын
Great list. Had to go through and watch all your videos I hadn’t seen yet. Never disappointed. My weirdest deck is one of my favorite decks I’ve made, it’s a Kwain itinerant meddler control hug deck.
@haakon37573 жыл бұрын
For the transformer deck you should put in the urza power lands (factory, mine, tower, power station)
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
nice flavor there.
@kylereblitz28562 жыл бұрын
And the new Vecna pieces.
@dreyfus37_652 жыл бұрын
I have an opponents choices deck with Will the Wise and Dustin Gadget Master as my commanders. It’s the most fun deck I’ve ever built and every time I play it on spelltable I get compliments for how well built it is and how fun it is to play against
@israeltaylor213 жыл бұрын
I have a narset deck based around Eternal Dominion (the blue epic spell) and it's a ton of fun.
@rend79793 жыл бұрын
One of my fav ways to win in all of magic: Riftsweeper + Scrap Doll + Hornet sting with infinite etbs, mana, and draw triggers (I play this in saffi eriksdotter, easy enough) Proceed to make hornet sting your only card, play and draw it 200+ times to do 1 damage at a time to kill the table!
@captaindb4998 Жыл бұрын
For that Zur deck, Sphinx of the Second Sun also gives additional beginning phase (extra upkeep).
@heitortremor3 жыл бұрын
It's always fun to get suggestions and discussion about interesting magic card combinations!
@commanderthegathering30043 жыл бұрын
I do not look around much online, so I'm not sure if it's a common thing but one of my favorite commander pairs is Bruse and Akiri. They offer a good early and mid/late game tandem. A quick or normal start gets Akiri out a bit early, and she benefits from artifacts. Then, when she's geared up and ready, BRUSE BRUSE comes out, gives her some Double Striking encouragement, and there it is.
@Shadowstar1083 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the original video and building a Naya deck with Obuun as the commander. The deck is expensive, but it works; I knocked two people out of a game by discarding 7 lands with damage doubling enchantments. I would also suggest doing Breena the Demagogue Knight Tribal for a Haakon deck, but you just did one for her and I understand if you don't want to. I will probably switch mine over soon. Thank Eldriane for giving us a bunch of playable Knights.
@shawnjones29273 жыл бұрын
is there a deck list for the artifact and enchantment hate deck?
@durza193 жыл бұрын
I wish you a ever growing channell sir, love all the content.
@matthoward61303 жыл бұрын
Cool ideas. I had a Kaldra deck for a long time
@colexian3 жыл бұрын
highly recommend liquimetal torque in addition to or replacing Thran Forge.
@williamrueckert-gardner32933 жыл бұрын
i have never clicked on a video faster
@VegtamTheWonderer3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sisay, Weatherlight Captain deck with the Shrines and Enduring Ideal. Used the "Words of *" enchantments to avoid decking myself. It was pretty fun, but every game was basically a race to activate solitaire mode because it was too many enchantments for people to deal with unless they specifically built against it.
@mikej86943 жыл бұрын
Been enjoying your videos since the beginning, thanks for the great content. My first ever deck was an aminatou trade permanents deck where i used her -1 ability to get my stuff back. It ended up being really mean, i actually took it apart because it wasn't very fun to play against. I also built a ghen deck for a friend where one of the wincons was enduring ideal. The idea was to cast enduring ideal with ghen on the field with the first enchantment you go get being fall of thran to destroy all lands. You then use ghen to sac thran and recur another enchantment from your graveyard. So now even though you can only cast 1 spell per turn you can still use ghen and your opponents have no lands so they dont get to cast any spells. Lol i guess that one is kinda mean too.
@liamvaughan53623 жыл бұрын
Absolute same on the Aminatou deck, was the first EDH deck I built too - Puca's Mischief and Perplexing Chimera won me so many games until I realised how oppressive and unfun they could be for the other players
@riukenavatar86252 жыл бұрын
This popped up today and now of course we have Mechtitan Core for your Devastator deck idea. Seems someone at Wizards is on the same wavelength.
@robertspeedwagon2233 жыл бұрын
6:50 the Commander Atris from Theros: Beyond Death would be an excellent commander for that effect
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
I made a similar "bad choices" grixis deck a while back. It was basically just a series of cards that make opponent choose between bad and worse XD
@tkessel38663 жыл бұрын
would you share your deck me i love that idea
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
@@tkessel3866 I don't have the decklist anymore but I can give you a few ideas Choice of damnations, manifold insights, fact or fiction, steam augury, intuition, things like that. Also just search for cards that have "council's dilemma" and "will of the council" in scryfall. Also just search for cards that have the words "opponent choose." Full disclosure: it was a silly ass deck that probably won't win very many games but it was fun to bamboozle people and make them doubt their own decision making process lmao.
@lokidragon87253 жыл бұрын
I assembled 'witch tron' (Bog brew witch, bubbling cauldron and festering newt) in a bad build of korvold a few years ago. And one of my friends asked can you make witch tribal to use that as a wincon... It's one of those decks I've never pursued building but I think there's some potential in it. I think using Lyzolda as the commander and running things like lifeline and shirei shizo's caretaker there could be a janky way to kill opponents with stuff like wound reflection etc. But you'd run anything referencing witches so you could throw in the cat oven combos and other stuff like season of the witch, witches familiar possibly.
@connermcclarren52343 жыл бұрын
Chisei, Heart of the ocean is a really cool commander that I don't see anyone use. Things like mystic remora seem really good with it.
@mirkow65803 жыл бұрын
Its fun and all, but i dont have any god cons
@liamvaughan53623 жыл бұрын
I have a Chisei deck that I absolutely love running out. You can repeatedly activate chapters on sagas like Kiora Bests the Sea God and Time of Ice to basically tap down everyone's stuff forever and you can do silly things with Cauldron of Souls and persist creatures. Wincons usually involve creating a million Chronozoas or blinking Master of Waves and going wide.
@Ramm16023 жыл бұрын
Ha! I have empires cards in my Queen Marchesa deck, now it's time to make Kenrith monarch deck :3
@andrewmcallister3529 Жыл бұрын
Mirror box would be crazy with Helm of kaldra, make 5/5s for 1 mana each. If you're already building to tutor non-creature artifacts you could tutor for mirror box too.
@Prolakk3 жыл бұрын
I was already thinking about making the ''your opponents choice'' deck, but now I think I'll just make it.
@dankoop663 жыл бұрын
I've always loved kuldra, the full set with a possessed portal and some open mana, game over.
@Lordsofplural3 жыл бұрын
Mana Severance with Mutate Thassa's. Lets you search any number of lands from your deck and exile them so the deck is Commander- Thassa's Oracle and Mana Severannce and a bunch of lands
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
why do you need to exile your lands?
@Lordsofplural3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding if your deck is Thassa's Oracle, Mana Severance, your commander, and 97 lands it lets you exile your library and then play thassa's or if you don't have it in hand makes it the only card in your deck.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
i see. but how do you get the mana severance? luck?
@Lordsofplural3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding luck and aggressive mulligans, after all when all of your deck is lands you can mulligan to one and not suffer the consequences.
@Lordsofplural3 жыл бұрын
certifiably 100% jank and that's what makes it great
@Nightrapture3 жыл бұрын
The varragoth thing imo is fun if you plan a monoblack deck and you can build it around discarding cards aswell. At the moment i'm using him as one of the best cards for his sinergy in yuriko's deck.
@coachgonzalezpg17423 жыл бұрын
I run Illuna with all of the new fractal token creators, along with cards that give creatures double strike. Nobody realizes that if I mutate Illuna on to a 5/5 Fractal token, it turns Illuna into an 11/11 that one shots when given double strike.
@AngelGraves213 жыл бұрын
I built the Illuna Oracle deck as well. I use a lot of instants and sorcery spells that create tokens for mutate targets; then I run a ton of control magic and ramp with a few tutors. I find it easier to get Thassa’s Oracle in hand then mutate Illuna.
@Farycane3 жыл бұрын
Yahoo just habe Oracle in Hand and mutate illuna, then hardcast thoracle
@SeraphimKnight3 жыл бұрын
That Song of Creation idea... If you use Ydris as your commander you could have Necropotence in the deck, which I feel is really strong with what you're trying to do here.
@MD-ru9rr2 жыл бұрын
The new Mechtitan could work in the assemble deck with a lot of artifact creatures :o
@rayk57853 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. Another great video.
@JohnShire3873 жыл бұрын
Peasant tribal changelings with Morophon as the commander. Each time you play one, announce that you are casting, in fact, a peasant.
@liamvaughan53623 жыл бұрын
Seeing this after AFR I'm thinking of a Dimir/Esper assemble deck that incorporates Book of Vile Darkness, Hand of Vecna and Eye of Vecna along with the cycles you suggested. Possibly led by Rona or Silas Renn/Rebbec with a bunch of artifact and equipment tutors
@NoMrSupermanNo3 жыл бұрын
I've had a varragoth deck since he came out xD. I love it so much
@phortunatelee85973 жыл бұрын
I so badly want an assemble deck!!!!
@manfredweber9963 жыл бұрын
What about the two pair of stations for the kaldra deck. Mirrodin and kaladesh ones end up in a endless comb.
@eliluttrell76373 жыл бұрын
Number 2 and 3 could go together to cycle through your deck much faster and allow you to have interaction making the overall deck more competitive
@sunnysushi51353 жыл бұрын
Funny little Combo: -Play Hivemind - Cast enduring ideal - now Nobody can Cast spells 😈
@shapooopiefour71733 жыл бұрын
If you’re really a chaos enjoyer, cast Eternal Domination instead. Now everyone has everyone else’s deck
@sunnysushi51353 жыл бұрын
@@shapooopiefour7173 thats too evil I Like it
@dustinjolly97693 жыл бұрын
Endless Swarm is funnier.
@shapooopiefour71733 жыл бұрын
@@sunnysushi5135 actually Enduring Ideal is more effective if you want to win, now that I think about it. Not everyone will have a bunch of enchantments, so they’ll get very minimal value
@shapooopiefour71733 жыл бұрын
@@dustinjolly9769 snek everywhere
@xedet3 жыл бұрын
I think I'll expand on the last idea!I really like it!
@SpiceWeazel3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to think of other assembly sets. So far I have bogbrew witch + cauldron + newt and the tron lands, but I can't think of any others. Any other ideas?
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
yo! really important question how do you remove the white corners from the card images?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
i'm really really clever. one of the reasons i do my videos the way i do. think about it.
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding ¿Huh?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
the answer: i don't.
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding oooooohhhh I gotcha. Hence the white background. Gotcha gotcha gotcha.
@moxcardboardtv87973 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Hey man just wanted to let you know because I just learned this myself, instead of left clicking the images themselves on scryfall and "save image as" there's actually an option to save the card image as a PNG image WITHOUT the white borders on the bottom left of the page. imgur.com/a/XIPd2ol In case you wanted to use a non-white background in the future.
@rayk57853 жыл бұрын
Your content is great. Thanks. Keep it up.
@UploadFromHell3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I made a deck where it has all cycling cards in the deck and I can reanimate everything I cycled with Eerie Ultimatum. I also have living death and stuff like that so I can reanimate my entire graveyard or at least the creatures. Do you have any suggestions on how to make it more linear?
@beanslinger23 жыл бұрын
"Most decks rely heavily on artifacts and enchantments" I don't play cedh, so I can't really comment on this, but I'm the only player in my group that actually really uses artifacts because we have a limited variety of cards to choose from. The only artifacts I really see played are like Sol Ring and other mana rocks, but not much past that.
@JPMitchell317212 жыл бұрын
I use Enduring Ideal in my shrines deck. It's crazy with Shrine To All.
@matthewneilson98363 жыл бұрын
I have made a pure mutate deck with apex of wishes and is actually insane as digging for creatures and actually mutating them on scute swarm and going to town making copies of them is insane
@captaindb4998 Жыл бұрын
I have a Varragoth deck that's just Ad Nauseum, Sickening Dreams and Glacial Chasm. The rest is Swamps!!!
@FozzyFUCT3 жыл бұрын
You're a real laboratory maniac!!
@taintedtoaster3 жыл бұрын
If there was more support, I think a Morophon Amass deck would be pretty funny.
@afspeellijstnaruto3 жыл бұрын
About Varragoth. I put him in my demon tribal deck (which has quite a high power level in my meta). But i won't use him as a commander for the same reason why i took my Zur the Enchanter deck apart. You rly tend to tutor for the same things every time. It's consistent allright, but almost every game feels the same if others can't interact with it.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
yeah i don't love decks like that either.
@wollexq58933 жыл бұрын
Assemble deck via Oswald Fiddlebender. Might be my next one.
@Taphosthewarlock3 жыл бұрын
That varragoth idea sounds perfect as an inclusion in a sen triplets play your opponents deck deck with other control and stealing options
@toedrag-release3 ай бұрын
Illuna oracle exists...you dont need it at the bottom you need to draw it you just need to be able to cast oracle, having it at the bottom works too but typically its filled with draw spells and token creators
@johnannand28123 жыл бұрын
Volrath’s Shapshifter & Grist, the Hunger Tide
@dustynweber90483 жыл бұрын
Could you make a mono green control deck that isn’t super staxxy?
@uncursed65833 жыл бұрын
I can only chose between 8 decks in the first video poll, I wanted to chose darigaaz.
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
i made that one. and the ikra life gain one. the decklist are in the description.
@uncursed65833 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding oh, sorry
@Zendrig3 жыл бұрын
What is a healthy number of themes and subthemes for an EDH deck? Do you think 4 can be done without sacrificing too much power level?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
depends how synergistic those themes are. but 4 sounds like too much.
@ManMan-ho5gu3 жыл бұрын
That enchantment deck could also get enchantment creatures like gods out 👁 👁
@chocolateninja25743 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to that brusa deck?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
there are no decklists here. these are just ideas.
@angelojohnson94413 жыл бұрын
The unspeakable and spirit of the night can be assembled, Also tron lands and the stations from fifth dawn.
@orsettomorbido3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the enduring spells
@GFreeGamer3 жыл бұрын
For the Iluna deck idea, did you try using Valakut Awakening and Fire Prophecy to help you tuck the Thassa Oracle to the bottom?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
yes fire prophecy is perfect for the deck.
@wackzacko3 жыл бұрын
Do you have decklists for the decks in the video? Or maybe just a list of synergy cards for the deck idea?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
this is just deck ideas to make your own. however i will be building one of these, so make sure to vote.
@wackzacko3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding Deal!! You've been putting out some great content recently! I appreciate your lists
@sp00n293 жыл бұрын
I think the best fit for Epic spells are commander's that don't have to be cast, like Derevi or Yuriko or with Eminence effects. 🤔
@Coolman270113 жыл бұрын
Pegasus plural is Pegasi. Also ive wanted to make a Zur curses deck for a while but ive never heard of Enduring Ideal before now.
@uncleregi50283 жыл бұрын
You can now run the vecna cards in the transformers deck as well
@drimdar3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you put your playlist in order it’s hard to remember which episode I watched last.
@whitebearbest3 жыл бұрын
I have an Illuna Hivemind Deck that is very fun to watch the game as a spectator. Almost like watching AI in a strategy game play things out without your involvement.
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Varragoth is going into my Phage the untouchable EDH as what deck don't like a tutor on a stick?
@nothingatonce3 жыл бұрын
for now my only remaining paper edh deck is my tatyova. could ez make this 'good' by slapping in lab maniac and race to finish but it's built to do politics and getting to critical mass takes a pokerface. usually goes off mid to lategame with a praetor's council and the green or blue myojin available. wincon is meloku+manabond as token engine while slapping an akroma's memorial alongside the rest of the deck on the table because infinite mana,draw, life & turns. 👌
@albelthewicked33 жыл бұрын
For the volrath deck why not go the copy route?
@cooperking3943 жыл бұрын
What commander would you run with volraths's shapeshifter??
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
a dimir commander that likes graveyards maybe? although having white for really good creature like avacyn and elesh norn would also be good. you could even do zur, the enchanter just to get tortured existence.
@billdoetsch2 жыл бұрын
Kamiz and Raffine, now, seem to fit this well!
@LoxeBi3 жыл бұрын
Making an Akiri, Line Slinger + Vial Smasher Artifact Aristocrats deck. its weird, but it'll be fun.
@satpiegaming67563 жыл бұрын
I built a Ramos, Dragon Engine mutate storm deck, playing illuna, song of creation and guided passage 😂 what a coincidence
@guilliangadenne6333 жыл бұрын
Zedru deck looks cool, but with taking things back, we waste a bit of zedru power no ?
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
not a zedru deck
@Emdimyan Жыл бұрын
I made my Iluna deck around dragon's approach and the only permanent in the deck is thrumming stone >:D
@EidoEndy3 жыл бұрын
Pegasus tribal is funny. Had a my little pony deck that was just various horses, Unicorns and Pegasi. It was janky and fun.
@theoakgrovesquirrel30023 жыл бұрын
I just made a blue braids deck where I flash her out before my turn and return her to my hand during my turn
@revelmonger3 жыл бұрын
So far the only competitive Illunia deck I've seen is food chain and Oh boy is it fun, probably the only fun Food Chain deck.
@ChuggaChoo2 жыл бұрын
I've ran the shapeshift with Phage
@CamperEater3 жыл бұрын
Samurai deck idea please
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PNinyYj6enaqc
@CamperEater3 жыл бұрын
@@edhdeckbuilding thanks
@Badassest3 жыл бұрын
Varragoth/maralen/opposition agent/mindlock orb
@kk_333 жыл бұрын
I have an exchange Aminatou deck because she can blink all your stuff back. Expect to become arch enemy, because people really don't like when you steal their stuff
@edhdeckbuilding3 жыл бұрын
they certainly do not.
@MTG693 жыл бұрын
How many jank binders to you have? Because everytime I watch your videos, I am adding to mine.