10 Reasons GARROSH Was A GOOD Warchief

[@Doronsmovies]

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[@boyd1998]

Orgrimmar impregnable! *Proceeds to fly over the walls with my 150% mount*

[@Samagachi]

Fr how do they not have anti-air weapons?

[@adalbertosampaio6375]

And after WOD until now, im still waiting for the gorehowl model to be updated -.-

[@bingfisher]

Garrosh the Chad wouldn't be caught dead having "Vulpera" and other stupid races join his horde.

[@devilskiss8421]

Thats why i miss garosh

[@ogikay7056]

That’s why he is dust now lol

[@That_kind_of_orc]

Garrosh was not just an orc, he was true orc from draenor and grew up in orcish culture. He ruled horde like warrior from draenor would, thats why no one understood him.

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

He's Just Brutal Tyrant who after that was no longer even honorable. and that was his only positive trait

[@ogikay7056]

Tbh I prefer thrall’s horde to garrosh’s. Garrosh’s horde was dishonored and divided. Thrall’s horde was family and united.

[@alexandruv.3390]

No, he ruled the horde as he thought his father would. Garrosh was a Mag'har, the chill orcs who didn't went full demon blood, and weren't warmongers by orc standards.

[@ogikay7056]

@@alexandruv.3390 Maghar Orcs are what we call draenor orcs. Garrosh and his father was of Warsong Clan. Only Frostwolves and Shadowmoon orcs were "chill"

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

@Alexandru V. warsong clan was the main force clan in Gul'dan's demonic horde after blackrock's... Gromash drink Manroth Blood first before any other orc. Dude They were not "chill"

[@rengarlothbrok5696]

he wasn't a good warchief he was THE BEST warchief

[@AlexB.778]

Sylvanas was

[@najacipedo6898]

Orgrim was.

[@etainebless5056]

hey, since most of the people are unhappy with the current lore progression and there is not much to cover. could you bring back the races/species of azeroth series back? i really enjoyed those peace

[@kizaruthegreat]

Species and maybe just individual character lore

[@apacalypsagon3758]

I'm not gonna say Garrosh did nothing wrong. But he's definitely not entirely to blame. Those around him literally threatened him in front of his face. And without him the horde wouldn't have survived cataclysm.

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

Still just a Tyrant and thats why for exaple Vol'Jin threatned him in front of his face...because he caused an unnecessary war....then he wasn't even honorable anymore and that was his only positive trait

[@najacipedo6898]

@@klapacjuszanimomon8501 That was the point of the Horde... to conquer their enemies, thats why the Horde was formed in the first place but you can thank bliz for fucking it up and making it look like Alliance 2.0.

[@apacalypsagon3758]

@@klapacjuszanimomon8501 well when when you threaten to kill the boss man in an incscrutiating manner in front of him. You don't get to be surprised when it happens to you. And when it came to war they weren't exactly swimming in options. The war in northernd was costly and thralls policy's weren't going to last long.

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

@@najacipedo6898It was the point of a horde, manipulated and enslaved by demons, the Horde craved for nothing but bloodshed. The True Horde was in the days of Thrall and Vol'jin where they had their own identity and at the same time did not wage pointless wars. If u want some ooga booga only war shit... U will find it in WarHammer Where the orcs have a brain level of 6 years Old angry Child

[@keleitas150]

well duh, ofc everyone threatened him. he was a dick to say the least.

[@RafaelOSilva-de5td]

GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG (i blame blizzard)

[@MrOrcshaman]

He died in PvP. That counts as the ultimate fail.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Garrosh did a lot wrong but i think he was the strongest written warchief we got When they were warchied Thrall didnt get to do anything in vanilla through wotlk Voljin really didnt do anything And sylvanas made some appearances along the way but honestly didnt get to do much herself Garrosh was a constant presence as warchief. He showed up often, Everyone talks about garrosh, you report to garrosh quite a few times, and you got to really know garrosh in his position We also saw him in the books and a bit in the game use tactics and beasts from previous campaigns to his advantage

[@JRBDWD]

>Garrosh >Villain Choose one bro,you cant have both

[@szymonkalinski3014]

Such a waste of good Horde character :(. He was a good Warchief until he turn hostile and try to destroy his people. I respected him ( even if he was an asshole ).

[@najacipedo6898]

He didn't try to destroy his own people, he tried to restore the Orcish Horde where Orcs are the top race and the others are secondary.

[@AndrewHun88]

In my eyes Garros should be a lot better as a second in command or respetative of the mag'har orc's from Outland. Hell if Thrall was smarter he would created a backup plan before the dark portal has opened and form the "current" concil style leadership if dire needs, having 2-3 people represent their race's side.

[@najacipedo6898]

@@AndrewHun88 Bliz kinda fucked the Horde up after Garrosh with the other Warchief's, i mean Vol'jin was ok but Sylvanas? really?

[@AndrewHun88]

@@najacipedo6898 Yeah only liked Sylanas during War3 and Wotlk, after it she becomes too much most times. Vol'jin was better, but they did rushed his death also. BtW i'm was thinking about the times before TBC to be honest not the Welcome to Draenor "expassion"

[@najacipedo6898]

@@AndrewHun88 They should have put a Council after Garrosh was defeated, since they clearly didn't have any plans for Vol'jin, do the Darkspear Trolls even have a leader now?

[@frezzy7375]

Garithos did nothing wrong

[@sigma0443]

Honestly Garrosh was such a good character until the story writers decided to do him injustice. He was such an amazing warrior until he decided to drop a nuke on Theramore, decided to embrace old God corruption when he knew his entire race succumbed to slaves under the demonic corruption. Still SL is still making it out to look like he is still embracing all what happened and I hope it turns out a better way

[@shdwfxgamerz7667]

Yeah on the corruption point he saw what happened to his people and was ashamed of his own father for being one of the first to embrace the demons

[@JRBDWD]

Explain to me HOW using your weapons to win a war is bad?

[@gemineyeduality764]

If he was real, he'd be a monster. But since he's from fantasy, he's incredibly badass. Arguably the most badass.

[@JRBDWD]

If he was real he would be even more badass.

[@Eyawork]

We need him against islam

[@JRBDWD]

@@Eyawork and against Israel

[@easygrin1127]

No his father was The Badass

[@JRBDWD]

@@easygrin1127 They basically have the same personality,the difference was that his father actually believed Thrall's lies

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Reason 11: Garrosh Hellscream ≠ _Morally Grey_ Sylvanas

[@BoxandJacquilope]

Garrosh was such a great villain character. It speaks volumes so many people talk about him to this day!

[@easygrin1127]

Wasnt he still in the game until very recently?

[@scuffedspartan5144]

Hero*

[@FranciscoSantos-lw8nz]

Garrosh was a monster and deserved the torture he got

[@miklenzkrozen4194]

Nr. 9 reason has 0 sense, he didn't invade Pandaria with good intentions or to stop the Zandalari, he just invaded, as you pointed out in the video, to claim land and resources for the Horde while he ravaged the land and its people. That is not a good representation of a GOOD leader. We already know that he would do anything for the Horde, but it doesn't justify invading and ravaging the land for Horde's benefit.

[@AlexB.778]

Don't you guys just love how the good things Garrosh did is pretty much a list of his war crimes

[@rainhyrt1530]

He might be a good warchief but a bad leader.

[@Q8Bart]

Garrosh: I was a good Orc but the Devs made me a bad one :(

[@JRBDWD]

He was always good

[@skippe3rskippe3r75]

Wait.. did Garrosh die for good and cannot come back?

[@bryanzimmerman3087]

When I hear the arguments defending Garrosh and I think you could make the same historical arguments for Hitler personally. I actually liked Garrosh's character up till Cataclysm and I was hoping that he would get a redemption story and become a worthy warchief for all Blizz invested in him. Instead they used him as the poster boy for the cycle of hatred which is ironic since he never even met a human prior to BC thus having no real reason to hate them. Also, he was tutored for leadership by some of the wisest orcs in history. The moral of the story is that children are doomed to become their fathers and nothing can change that. Wasted opportunity on Blizz's part for a character who had a lot of potential to become the next big face of the franchise all because of their desperate attempt to pretend that they werent killing off all their big name lore villains too quickly for the sake of adding content.

[@shdwfxgamerz7667]

I don't even think grom would do some of the things garrosh did

[@SupremeOrbRagingStar]

@@shdwfxgamerz7667 No, you're right, he would do worse in certain aspects though... cough cough, drinking blood.

[@somerandominternetdweller]

To be honest is a victim of bad story telling. He originally was supposed to be all the good traits of Grom and be a hero, however with his story telling the people that worked on Garrosh weren’t on the same page, and you can see how Garrosh acts differently and made his motivations vary greatly, in parts of the game that makes you question his character design. Then gave up and just made him a bad guy.

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

He did plenty wrong, otherwise he wouldn't have collected so many L's.

[@NerubZ7]

Garrosh always was the good guy

[@osseym9580]

That garrosh in the thumbnail is *SUPER* cursed

[@viktor9988]

I hold the old Thrall (before cata) much higher than Garrosh. But Garrosh is a strong second ;)

[@easygrin1127]

Its a forever shame that they turned Grom's son into a douchy screaming coward.

[@ondrejapalovic599]

I must say that I feel like the assassination of Vol'jin in Pandaria was kind of deliberately ignored to make point about his honour. Especially since this video was made by a guy who knows too much about the lore to forget this event

[@JRBDWD]

That would be another great point. The filthy coward,Vol´jin literally said he would backstab Garrosh at the first opportunity. So you have to deal with traitors,first

[@ondrejapalovic599]

@@JRBDWD First of all, the point raised wasn't that Vol'jin wasn't a threat to Garrosh but that Garrosh always fought his greatest opponents 1v1 "honorably" and if he didn't do it the "honorable" way for some reason then he would regret it. Luring somebody to do the dirty work for him in some cave somewhere in Pandaria, having him stabbed by a poisoned dagger and keeping his supposed death a secret kinda goes against the point. Secondly, the only traitor here is Garrosh for violating many principles of the new horde, including the oppression of the trolls as one of the first races of the new horde. Last but not least, the dialogue where the threat happened started with Garrosh and Vol'jin insulting each other where Garrosh was the first one to insult Vol'jin and Garrosh was the first one to death threaten him. Also Vol'jin didn't threaten to kill him "at the first opportunity". He threatened to dispose of him when he loses all power and support and becomes insignificant. There was no immediate threat as long as enough of the people support him. He basically told him that he will ruin himself as a Warchief and he'll just wait for it and he even did continue to obey to a point when going on that mission in Pandaria. So next time please refrain from using the word “literally" before you get your lore straight. It was an interesting point of view to think about though, so thanks for engaging in the discussion👌

[@JRBDWD]

@@ondrejapalovic599 He started pushing the trolls after Vol'jin made his threat,also the Horde isnt a constitutional republic. The word of the warchief is everything. You can see the the rules in the mission on WotLK when the Taunka joined the Horde. Vol'jin won was a traitor and had to die.

[@ondrejapalovic599]

@@JRBDWD He treated other races of the Horde, including trolls, in a disrespectful and insulting way even before but I do acknowledge the point that majority of the violence against trolls happened after Vol'jin's threat. Btw, Vol'jin never opposed Garrosh in action, only in word and what he said in the mentioned dialogue was kind of “Hey, I don't like what you are doing here and I think it will lead to bad things so if you screw up really hard then I might have to kill you.". Furthermore, Saurfang told him literally the same thing but more directly and without such open dislike. So in one case it did not stir any action and in the other he persecuted the whole race quite hard and assassinated Vol'jin in secrecy. This kind of response to verbal opposition was foolish as it upset the stability in the horde enough to eventually lead to his downfall and thus he was probably a bigger threat to himself than Vol'jin ever was. Regarding the point that horde isn't a constitutional Republic, while that is true, the ultimate loyalty is still to the Horde which the Warchief serves as pointed out by Thrall in The Shattering and this fact was acknowledged by Garrosh as well. Whether Vol'jin had the right to rebel depends on whether you acknowledge Locke or Hobbes type of philosophy so there is no right answer to that. Hobbes would probably view Vol'jin as the traitor even though Garrosh's actions were unjust, while Locke would probably view Garrosh as the traitor to the Horde. If you take it from the point of view that what Garrosh was doing was right then Vol'jin obviously was a threat and a traitor but still the action was foolish as I pointed out earlier.

[@shdwfxgamerz7667]

To garroshes credit he did expand horde territory considerably and kinda evened out the balance of power between the alliance and horde

[@diederickkastner]

He wasn't a good Warchief. He was the only Warchief we've ever had.

[@skullkruncher6144]

Sorry bro but this was a dumb list, it should be 10 reasons Garrosh was a good war chief.

[@MrLolguy93]

Garrosh: "Hey, Jailer. Look at me." BITCH

[@10Satoshi15]

Number 3 was a mistake, it was done because of a miscommunication in the wow team, that's why it's a 180 from the rest of the game depiction of him

[@pavelh756]

Alternative title: Why this fascist dictator was actually a good leader :-D

[@MrLolguy93]

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Orc children

[@MrHitmancheg]

To be fair, have you fucking seen the guys that came after him? Vol'Jin was a worthless warchief, and Sylvanas... Garrosh is practically a saint when compared to Sylvanas.

[@pavelh756]

@@MrHitmancheg yeah, it's literally like USSR, first Lenin, then Stalin 😂

[@deatheater10879]

@@pavelh756 still better than the current warchief and the the voljin and thrall. the new lore is trash the new horde is trash. i actually miss the garrosh days. not really a fascist. he only did it to make the horde strong.

[@gromczar1589]

@@MrLolguy93 BASED

[@antyrak7905]

Kill alliance first, undead come later.

[@mhsilva6588]

The Chad Garrosh vs The Virgin Sylvanas

[@thatcat964]

He was good until he wasn't.

[@patriousthefallenknight3185]

Garrosh was a true hero and warcheif of the horde!

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

I always thought the entire Garrosh arc was sort of hamstrung by the fact that WoW was an MMO. His version of the Horde excluded everyone who wasn't an Orc with few exceptions, like the Goblin engineer. If the game actually wanted to tackle his storyline in a smart way, they would've needed to actually create a schism in the Horde through gameplay mechanics and a possible third, temporary faction. They didn't and they've been jerking off his image for fanservice ever since.

[@skyrimbear7106]

well i hate you for the thumbnail but i can't complain if your talking about the real warchief

[@afc9447]

i used to hate Garosh back in Cataclysm. i found him as a boold elf Paladin an uncivilized Leader. however in Pandaria pre patch i have had a Human DK alt to level and had to do some quests for OR from King Vyrian. he was horde hater by default just like garrosh to the alliance. in one of his quest he said "let the horde fight each other like dogs" that moment when i realized its good to have garrosh to counter the Alliance king better than the softy Thrall i loved. one expansion later Garrosh get punished for being a true horde leader while Varian in Legion they made him God of the nobility.

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

I dont think Garosh is a good warchief. He just did few good things but overall ha was pretty bad person. Also he dont exactly wi mak gora ageinst Crain. Crain lose only couse Garosh axe was poisoned. in terms of skills Garosh was like a child compared to Crain who, throughout the entire duel, could not hurt him in any way except for one scratch on the shoulder which Crain did not actually cut but died by poison.

[@jonburnett90]

Garrosh is a terrible character! Blind devotion to his people and only his people? Where's the realism there?! He should have been working with some trapped god of death who he's sure wasn't manipulating him but it turns out totally was the whole time. Oh and part of his soul was missing that's why he was a dick. You know? A well written character!

[@kimtollefsen4078]

I jusr read did nothing wrong and Rolled my eyes so hard it hurt, YES HE DID :p a certain bomb, I guess that wasn't wrong or bad or ethical ,

[@MrOrcshaman]

At this point it's a meme this statement, and the ones still making it know deep down it's a joke. But to make it simple, let's put it this way, if garrosh was a pvper, he already failed, because he died. Twice!

[@michaelkelley2727]

so let get this straight Garrosh hellscream was trying to be a good warchief (in a classic orc kinda way), but he was screwed over by alot of people.

[@ThomasSpettel]

I miss garrosh. His voice was bad ass and I remember him in cataclysm. "Honor Kromgar! Never forsake it."

[@SuperHero3]

He did allow torture of Tauren and Trolls in Orgrimmar right? Just checkin'......

[@thanhchiv5101]

Garrosh the warcraft characters versions of Caesar

[@Petdoy54]

Bringing garrosh back would save wow. Bring him back!

[@francozanetti852]

Also blizzard "admitted" that they did garrosh wrong

[@luboss0008]

garosh is animal ... he need to be stopped he was not able to control him self at all

[@maxmcintyre5068]

Garish is doesn’t compare to thrall vol’jin or Sylvanas

[@harmagedonFR]

It's like saying mussolini was a good president.

[@EdgarAyabarreno]

To this video I give you the proverb "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" I think this applies to Garrosh because he felt he did it all for good the horde.

[@JRBDWD]

The proverb is good,but Garrosh indeed DID everything for the Horde,his Horde. The traitors left the Horde,so they had to be punished

[@kainslegacy78618]

- About Pandaria, a bad deed with evil intent ultimately resulting in a good result does NOT make previously mentioned deed good. - About Northrend, he was a grey element at best that was hindering the cooperation efforts against the Lich King most of the time. No legit good deed here. - About the new allies, he merely did a okay nod after all the efforts to bring in said new allies in were already made by others, and, the helping out the Dragonmaw clan cannot be declared a good thing over all, simply looking back on all the crimes that clan committed and continued to commit thanks to Garrosh. - I appreciate the honesty about the Iron Horde.

[@Kirochi]

Wow, such mental gymnastics.

[@MinecraftTheo]

your content is worth more than that trash asss ad

[@th5603]

Sylvanas did nothing wrong.

[@OrisMaxy]

Garrosh played Clash of clans alot loool

[@andresaureo]

Ah yes, the good fascism

[@freedom-for-iran6587]

Garrosh did nothing wrong.

[@tamasbors8108]

Wrong did Garrosh nothing.

[@ProfPuffOfficial]

Asmon gonna pause around 07:46

[@ZelldronTV]

TEAM GARROSH

[@deatheater10879]

you should play ffxiv

[@patrickkozlowski8273]

garrosh did nothing wrong

[@VileVictorian]

Garrosh is a strange character. I remember not being huge on him when they introduced him but when they started to take Varian Wrynn in a more positive and redeeming direction I figured they would make Garrosh his foil and follow his own redeeming path. Blizzard did ultimately just decide to make him purely bad and essentially irredeemable but some of these are good points. In hindsight the best thing he did in my opinion was the Stonetalon thing and denying the use of the Plague. He also didn't cheat in combat which is also a plus but honestly everything else in this video either lead to something MUCH worse that was his fault like Legion, WoD or the destruction of The Vale of Eternal Blossoms/Return of the Sha. I disagree with a lot of Thrall's decisions but I'm glad Garrosh is out of the picture for good now. Wasted character for sure but pre redemption he was kind of a scumbag and he definitely was a scumbag when that became his new story. It's hard to really find any good bits inbetween those two aspects but I hope Garrosh fans are at least kind of happy with how he went out in Shadowlands. Love your stuff Doron! :)

[@JRBDWD]

Garrosh did nothing wrong

[@Fuartianer]

The last point is more an exchange.. Tell me why do you want have bad people are good.. like you doing on the jailer..

[@oboroth51]

My Warchief

[@leonristic5158]

Nice

[@jean-sebastienbisson7915]

No, Garrosh was not a good Warchief.

[@Otterly_luna]

Even bad rulers do good things.

[@jhulvincentcalabia4784]

At least not like Silvanus who still doing stupid shit far worse than genocide nowadays.

[@najacipedo6898]

Still better then every other Warchief of the "New Horde".

[@jean-sebastienbisson7915]

@@najacipedo6898 he is literally the worse of them.

[@najacipedo6898]

​@@jean-sebastienbisson7915 How? Thrall made them everything opposite of what they were supposed to be and why the Horde was formed in the first place, Vol'jin did nothing and Sylvanas just used them for what she wanted.

[@bandoozm916]

Garrosh became warchief. Then our talent system got utterly foxed. So fox that guy.

[@TheSmegmagician]

as one of the like 8 people still playing ally, the only good warchief is a dead warchief, and garrosh has died twice as hard as any other leader + he called sylvanas a bitch, 6/10

[@Cook-by-the-book]

Argh! Garrosh puts the war and chief in warchief!

[@newfacepaula]

The only warchief that I only acknowledge are Blackhand, Ogrimm Doomhammer, Ner'zhul and Garrosh Hellscream. Pickle Messiah, Jamaican Smurf and a necrophilia bait are all fanfiction warchief.

[@Cook-by-the-book]

Argh! Poor voljin didn’t even last past one expansion before being killed of and doing nothing of huge significance like garrosh or even thrall as warchief.

[@newfacepaula]

@@Cook-by-the-book that is what a traitor gets and deserved! JUSTICE FOR GARROSH! only that damned Pickle Messiah needs to die, only then I'll forgive Blizzard and would make me play my Horde character again.

[@najacipedo6898]

I agree.

[@wazzlesmo]

You see the thing is… Thrall cheated

[@lefeal9707]

When most of your reasons why he was good is because he was a good warlord. Kind of like arguing Hitler was good because he was a good eugenicist.

[@Otterly_luna]

#GarroshDidNothingWrong

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

"1v1 me, no magic tricks, trog" -t. Garrosh "Goodboy" Hellscream

[@influx8450]

One reason why he was the wrost warcheif: HE CAUSED WARLORDS OF DREANOR

[@justinmarshall4692]

Hiru did it better lol

[@Dragonsamurai300]

True Garrosh started off as a good character but he suddenly turned evil around the tail end of Cata. He became too obsessed with waging war against the alliance then he became raciest against his own allies then he started using the old gods power. He just loved war too much.

[@darienmachen2545]

I can talk forever on the topic of garrosh but to keep it short, I wouldn’t say he suddenly turned evil and more he was driven by a lot of factors. A few of them are 1 thrall low key forced him to be war chief, garrosh refused 2 or 3 times but thrall wouldn’t take no for an answer. 2 Vol Jin straight up gave him a death threat face to face, hence his distrust of trolls, 3 the twilight’s hammer clan ambushed a friendly meeting of Druid night elves and Tauren which cairne blamed garrosh for even though he had nothing to do with it and just immediately challenged him to mak’gora, which he has to accept for his honor. Then grimtotem poisoned his weapon which he felt dishonor for, causing his mistrust of the Tauren, (also Baine hated him for killing his father in the mak’gora is another reason he mistrusted Tauren) 4 sylvanas using the plague acting like the new lich queen caused his mistrust of undead, essentially the only people who weren’t actively against him were the orcs. I’ll end it there lol but main point is that yes his actions were his own but they were mostly reactions to aggressions towards himself or the horde as a whole. Garrosh was done dirty imo

[@Dragonsamurai300]

@@darienmachen2545 Good points, guess he was an OK warchief for a while but I still think he was too blood thirsty. It's like he feels like shit when he's got nobody to fight so to avoid feeling useless he picks fights with whomever his people have had a beef with in the past just so he'd have something to fight. It's sorta like how Meiv Shadowsong felt empty after finally catching Illidan.

[@darienmachen2545]

@@Dragonsamurai300 yeah I could see that, he was always a warrior, not a leader. So he did what any warrior would do in his position, fortify and conquer. I do think the other leaders gave up on him far too quick and didn’t even help advise him (probably due to fear tho since he was so hot headed) and thrall just dipped immediately to heed the call of the elements so he was brand new to leadership and out on an island alone, side note too I’m not positive but I’m like 99% sure thrall cheated in the mak’gora where garrosh died cause they’re only allowed one weapon and he chose doom hammer and garrosh chose gorehowl, then when he started losing he switched to shamanism abilities :/ not positive if that’s against tradition but when garrosh says you made me what I am he’s referring to how he thrust the war chief mantle on him then abandoned him

[@Dragonsamurai300]

@@darienmachen2545 Again good points I hadn't thought of. I guess it makes sense why Garrosh turned out the way he did. His hot headedness and paranoia got out of control and he wasn't supported the way he needed to be. The people who were supposed to be advising him kept treating him like the big bully on the block. Vol'jin made a poor choice, Sylvanis could've found a better solution to the Forsaken population problem and Cairen probably could've tried asking Garrosh if he had anything to do with the attack on the druids. I get that it was unforgiveable seeing druids murdered but I don't think Garrosh would order an attack on them unless there was a valid reason for it. Killing druids wouldn't help the Horde at all so there'd be no point in it.