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@zintosion
@zintosion 6 минут бұрын
Somehow Sargeras returns.
@GreenArtsOrphan
@GreenArtsOrphan 32 минут бұрын
Must likely illaden is gonna list to him and agree to free him for that battle. Then back into the jail, but not as a prisoner, but more like a safer way to keep him. Freedom, but not really Freedom.
@michaelkelley2727
@michaelkelley2727 Сағат бұрын
they should've kept azeroth as a titan soul, tbh.
@missdeadite9696
@missdeadite9696 Сағат бұрын
Sargaras didn't go crazy, he just murdered like 90 percent of the UNIVERSE. totally not crazy. very sane. very demure.
@Val_ayh
@Val_ayh 3 сағат бұрын
Everything we know about Sargeras' motives have been told to us by the Titans, & we now know the Titans have lied to us about pretty much everything. I feel confident saying that idea Sargeras went crazy after being gaslit by dreadlords, is just another lie that'll be exposed in The Last Titan. I wouldn't be surprised if Illidan figures out what's actually going on, & reluctantly partners with Sargeras to end the Titan threat without destroying Azeroth.
@W.Isarnorix.D
@W.Isarnorix.D 2 сағат бұрын
I think he could do it whole heartedly without reluctance. Illidan wouldn't be able to standby and watch the Titans Dominate Sargeras' mind and turn him into an obedient puppet. Somewhere along that process, the original Sargeras would surface (remove of X Fel energy) and Illidan would be like "That's enough." I can see Illidan jailbreaking Sargeras and the two of them fucking up shop before rolling out to Azeroth.
@Val_ayh
@Val_ayh 2 минут бұрын
@@W.Isarnorix.D I say "reluctantly", because Sargeras still did do a bunch of shit directly to Illidan, as well as to Azeroth. I think it would be more of a "less of 2 evil" kind of situation he'd have to choose.
@databeat247
@databeat247 3 сағат бұрын
BOOM! Creating a new timeline where CATACLYSM NEVER HAPPENED and we all get the VANILLA PLUS we need where level cap is 60 and all expansions are vanilla based ..... WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY!!!! Or I just keep playing private servers ....
@cflgt500
@cflgt500 3 сағат бұрын
Been waiting for a new Doron vid drop. I listen to these like podcasts when driving
@mykaelnyx8821
@mykaelnyx8821 4 сағат бұрын
So this means now as the humans and other creatures of azeroth, we're going to have to kill the Titans? That sounds good to me
@leeroyj7300
@leeroyj7300 4 сағат бұрын
Imagine we get midnight and our new protagonists are Sargaras and N'Zoth
@johnnymcgeez5647
@johnnymcgeez5647 5 сағат бұрын
But why is Sargeras so huge compared to other titans?
@biosyn-ab4261
@biosyn-ab4261 55 минут бұрын
big deek, I mean, fel energy
@OldUndeadMaleModel
@OldUndeadMaleModel 5 сағат бұрын
Gunner??? Please Witch Hunter
@OkRoach
@OkRoach 5 сағат бұрын
Love the hype. Hate the reality check we'll get. Same loop since 2004.
@alucardtherealvampire6470
@alucardtherealvampire6470 6 сағат бұрын
Lord Illidan well show us the way
@chrisfrombeyond4240
@chrisfrombeyond4240 6 сағат бұрын
Dead game.
@BatnielGamer
@BatnielGamer 7 сағат бұрын
Most of these classes could be merged to make different skill trees for like, 3 classes, that would be nice
@harkenrebirth
@harkenrebirth 8 сағат бұрын
No no no. The titans wont be the ones to undo his chains.. It will be Illidain. Think about it.. Illidain is a pawn right now of the titans. They told him that he should do something. he did it. But then Sargeras.. Someone that Illidain views as an enemy. THE enemy... And Sargeras isnt one of the Titan Pantheon. But he knows some things the Titans arent telling us .. Now imagine if Illidain finds out the TRUTH about what they plan to do with Azeroth. I think the Titans arent going to awaken Azeroth.. They want to KILL it.. Devouring the POWER it has. They are right now just Nurturing the world.. So make it grow. But keeping it asleep. Or else they titans would have awakened the world. And when they start devouring the world.. The world will die. It will be destroyed. Illidain wont allow that. Tyranda is still on that world. And he loves her. Even after everything. And Sargeras will offer Illidain his powers.. IF he choses to protect Azeroth.. from the Titans. Which in turn will be when Sargeras and Illidain Merge. I mean This is a storyline from LEGION... Guldan and the legion wanting Illidains body to house Sargeras. Because nobody else is as powerfull. And Illidains body was a shell. No soul. As we know that Illidains soul was kept by Helya. So think about it.. Sargeras and Illidain as one being. And you will have Illidain no longer be Fel empowered... But will be FIRE:. As you can see the warglaives Illidain has are fel flame.. Now imagine FIre.. instead of fel.
@friezeray
@friezeray 8 сағат бұрын
great video doron!
@Draconistarum_000
@Draconistarum_000 8 сағат бұрын
We already dealt with Sargeras before. Talk about beating a dead horse... this is shameless lack of creativity from the writers. I wouldnt be surprised if we have another go with Arthas at this rate T_T
@Godwin420
@Godwin420 8 сағат бұрын
I'm beyond sick of every content creator fail-ascribing evil to the Titans for DARING to have mechanisms in place that in the event the most powerful world soul in existence becomes wholly corrupted by Void/other. How absolutely idiotic. If Azeroth has the origin and power that so many hint at, it would be universe-ending if she fell into a source of evil's hands. For Good to prevent that, even in the face of sacrificing millions of mortals on said planet - is NOT an evil act. If everyone's favorite Uncle Illybaby looked at his brother declaring the same result must occur one day, everyone would understand the weight of that call and why he came to it, but if the Titans put in a failsafe... everyone loses their minds.
@RetroGuy_77
@RetroGuy_77 8 сағат бұрын
Here's an interesting idea... What if Azeroth is actually the "second half" of a once whole Sargeras? Yin and Yang. Sargeras/Azeroth were once maybe extremely more powerful and the Titans, in order to subdue "them", they figured out a way to split them into who they are now, two halves of a broken shell of their former self. The Titans were able to subdue and imprison one half, but Sargeras proved to be too strong for them to contain. So maybe Sargeras is just trying to get his other half back and waged war on the Titans by creating the Burning Legion, who's REAL goal was to undo the Titans ordering of worlds by destroying them, while also trying to get back to his other half.
@NostraDavid2
@NostraDavid2 2 сағат бұрын
That would explain why pre-Legion Sargeras had Domination Runes on his armor, as he would need to be controlled.
@Fazlifts
@Fazlifts 8 сағат бұрын
Just taking a moment to appreciate Doron continuously providing me with all the important lore, so I can skip every quest text in the game 👍
@mattgraham2835
@mattgraham2835 8 сағат бұрын
I'm not surprised that the wow dev teams are and have been working on this especially with the hints of story direction that it could go and they have said that there is going to be events and characters that we haven't seen before but with the coming of midnight we are going to see and get to do some really cool stuff
@BorgWolf359
@BorgWolf359 9 сағат бұрын
We won't know anything until 2028 & there really isn't allot of evidence! Midnight is not until 2026 & The Last Titan won't be until 2028! Theories are fine but we don't have allot of information! The classes shown was from a Survey so there is no guarantee we will get any of them!
@glass_jaws
@glass_jaws 9 сағат бұрын
TBF the Titan's machines failed, but if they had been around they could have maintained them. Sargeras killing them off essentially guaranteed they would fail, so sorta self fulfilling prophecy there.
@Kross415
@Kross415 9 сағат бұрын
Sargeras and Illidan have always been a parallel, both are a mirror of each other and the "end justifies the means" type, they just were in opposite sides. They'll come back together as allies.
@NostraDavid2
@NostraDavid2 2 сағат бұрын
Pyromancer has been calling them "fractals", as in "Illidan is a fractal of Sargeras". Fractals seemingly repeat themselves at a smaller scale.
@DavidCodyPeppers.
@DavidCodyPeppers. 9 сағат бұрын
Titan Colonialism. 🕊
@corbin_4738
@corbin_4738 10 сағат бұрын
Who else has a sentient sword? - hint, hint: the leader of Revendreth. It would be humorous if he was actually playing Xal'atath since that is what he does.
@Nagria2112
@Nagria2112 10 сағат бұрын
1%? no start connecting the dots doran. look at the colors. look at crystals and Minerals. look back more then 1 civilization.
@Adriipht6969
@Adriipht6969 10 сағат бұрын
You dont think Sargeras went crazy? He literally obliterated entire planets lmao. You can say Sargeras was right the titans werent doing enough, but destroying entire planets is pretty crazy if you ask me XD
@Doronsmovies
@Doronsmovies 9 сағат бұрын
Titans are enslaving entire planets and also destroying them as well if they can't order them in their image.
@Adriipht6969
@Adriipht6969 5 сағат бұрын
@ I’m not saying the titans are the good guys, I’m saying both the titans and sargeras are crazy haha
@corbin_4738
@corbin_4738 10 сағат бұрын
Why are the Titans the bad guys? They have done what everyone else has done - try to seize Azeroth. Except their methods were not merely as destructive. Sargeras is very different from the facility in Northrend in that, if activated, that facility would cleanse the world of all life. Sargeras wanted to *destroy* the entire planet and kill the world soul itself.
@KrazyKaas
@KrazyKaas 10 сағат бұрын
Well, that was sooner than later
@brandonsimmers6624
@brandonsimmers6624 10 сағат бұрын
Taliesin convinced me the survey is fake and I can’t unsee that now. Most of the classes on there are descriptions of classes already in the game.
@stellamariaholeklyve2781
@stellamariaholeklyve2781 9 сағат бұрын
This! Love Doron's vids, but was a bit surprised to see him going off that leak.
@leeroyj7300
@leeroyj7300 5 сағат бұрын
or.....only some are classes, while other are specs?
@xg5297
@xg5297 11 сағат бұрын
I want to get finally new druid race, not like Kultiran, we have 3 race as troll in horde faction, gave this troll to alliance as new druid. Or make blood elfes as druids.
@That_kind_of_orc
@That_kind_of_orc 12 сағат бұрын
If Sargeras is returning so is....THE GOAT Illidan!
@joeyl564
@joeyl564 12 сағат бұрын
The titans see that every mechanism they put in place is failing and decide to kill Illidan, and unleash Sargeras on Azeroth..
@W.Isarnorix.D
@W.Isarnorix.D 2 сағат бұрын
I can see Illidan freeing Sargeras after realizing the Titans strip beings of their Free Will. Sargeras may have gotten too deep into the shit but he and Illidan are very much cut from the same cloth.
@josephsaric401
@josephsaric401 21 минут бұрын
@@W.Isarnorix.Dagree completely. After all that time fighting as prisoner (Sargeras) and jailer (Illidan) words had to be exchanged and I could see Sargeras explaining to Illidan the error of the Titans and suddenly both are like yeah let’s go back and efff them up some!
@Fyre19
@Fyre19 12 сағат бұрын
but why hes dead why do we need him back
@solfridbjory8189
@solfridbjory8189 3 сағат бұрын
who is dead? Sargeras aint dead
@NostraDavid2
@NostraDavid2 2 сағат бұрын
Sargeras got locked up, not killed.
@generaltim494
@generaltim494 12 сағат бұрын
Or maybe what we do in midnight aka if we beat the void saragas will have change of heart and become good and help rebuild azeroth after the damage midnight gonna do
@TheMrakic
@TheMrakic 12 сағат бұрын
''This world is a prison'' now makes much more sense
@DaveDavis-f9w
@DaveDavis-f9w 12 сағат бұрын
*Yawn* M'alright. Anyway...
@thehonorablebandit
@thehonorablebandit 12 сағат бұрын
Man, I miss the Old Gods. All this stuff with Titan artifacts, mechanisms, machinery etc... idk, I just don't like it. To be fair, I never really liked the idea of how the races were pre-Curse of Flesh. Besides, Lovecraftian monsters and gods will always have a special place in my heart. I still hope for the return of the Black Empire.
@themenace3951
@themenace3951 12 сағат бұрын
imagine demon hunters get a new spec and that what titan killer is
@rengarlothbrok5696
@rengarlothbrok5696 10 сағат бұрын
Oh yeaw, fck being an Illidan Rip-Off I didn't farm crazy Items to make the ultimate mog and not being able to see it in fights
@ThisisDD
@ThisisDD 8 сағат бұрын
It would indeed be nice to have a third spec to work with.
@themenace3951
@themenace3951 6 сағат бұрын
@ThisisDD it would be great especially with illidan coming back might have some new tricks to share with his fellow demon Hunters
@tomia89
@tomia89 3 сағат бұрын
imagine it being 2h spec, that would be cool
@pirojfmifhghek566
@pirojfmifhghek566 13 сағат бұрын
This is the kind of ending I can be cool with. The titans drop their benevolent facade, they release Sargeras in order to punish us, we kick his big titan ass from the hilt of his sword. Big huge battle with god from the edge of space itself. Fuckin' epic. I'm glad Danuser is gone because he definitely would've tried to give Sargeras a corny redemption arc instead. And he would've had Sylvanus kill him in a cutscene, then monologue about it.
@Yvario
@Yvario 10 сағат бұрын
And then after killing him, she would say that she didn’t. Because how could a servant of death not SERVE DEATH.
@pandora2806
@pandora2806 13 сағат бұрын
Lord Illidan back? Omg, hold my warglaives!
@sodadrinker89
@sodadrinker89 12 сағат бұрын
YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!
@monkeyjames9285
@monkeyjames9285 11 сағат бұрын
Night elf warlock sadly wanted same path sacrifice everything but unfortunately already imprisoned ya at time so decided fight as warlock. I offer my service to ya and illidari as demon and legion always be Looming threat ( this my night elf reason be warlock)
@Kapuze916
@Kapuze916 13 сағат бұрын
Now ..... we belong to the legion !
@DageD214
@DageD214 13 сағат бұрын
It has been four years since I stopped playing this game. I have missed so much need to come back…
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 13 сағат бұрын
Dont honestly. If you are gonna come back, wait for the next expansion. This one is the boring exposition expansion of the 3 expansion saga they have going. Next one already has cooler features confirmed.
@DageD214
@DageD214 12 сағат бұрын
@ okay thanks for the heads up
@therightperspective8690
@therightperspective8690 11 сағат бұрын
Nah. Legion was the unofficial end of the game for me. Been nothing but mediocrity ever since.
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 10 сағат бұрын
@@therightperspective8690 funny how the lore starts touching on all the legion stuff, old gods and void lords as Chris Metzen comes back. I'm hoping they revive the corpse of this game's story. So far in TWW, it's been a ton of set up. If the payoff is good and they can get the gameplay in a good spot, ill be down for WoW again. I think we will see the true fruits of Microsoft taking over after this xpac. This one was already in development and full production by the time the switch happened and they got Metzen back (creator of the og lore and all of warcraft p much)
@demte84
@demte84 9 сағат бұрын
you arent missing anything
@Nicosegoviafilm
@Nicosegoviafilm 13 сағат бұрын
Those class concepts and surveys seem super fake to be honest, I wouldn't put them as a reference.
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 13 сағат бұрын
The leak literally has 3 classes that if you read their description, you realize theyre already existing classes in WoW. I am judging anybody who believed this. This channel is kinda dead to me.
@tetraxenonx2550
@tetraxenonx2550 13 сағат бұрын
Maybe not a new class but maybe a New spec for dh, something like titans jailer
@Doronsmovies
@Doronsmovies 13 сағат бұрын
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@sindrimyr5351
@sindrimyr5351 12 сағат бұрын
He could revert to it, the titans for sure could find a way. However it would not change his disposition. It was not Fel mutation or corruption that caused him to start his crusade. If anything, his physical corruption was just a side effect of realeasing the demons from Marduum. and Personally...I don't want him to revert. I love him as he is.
@simonjacksons
@simonjacksons 2 сағат бұрын
Is Sargeras coming back for his sword?
@drj4u2b
@drj4u2b 14 сағат бұрын
Uhm what would sound logic organizing that info: Class: Battlemage --Leyweaver (Healer) --Spellbreaker (Tank) --Astrologist (DPS) Class: Tinker --Gunner (Range dps) --Artificer (Melee dps) --?????? (Tank) Class(racebound): Prismatics --TitanKiller (dps) --Celestial Lancer (MidRange DPS) Class: Hexer --Necromancer (dps) --Witch (support dps) --Apothecary (Healer)