10 Round Bakersfield PD Qualification Drill - Master Class with Ken Hackathorn & Bill Wilson Ep30

[@gowilsoncombat]

What do you think? Could you beat Bill's score?

[@mytake7436]

I him for the tecknique ....

[@kaa_man]

Probably not now. Ask me in a year

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Nope

[@HankMcGurk]

I think I'll need that shotgun. Put it down Bill.

[@mpccenturion]

Shooting today. I enjoy your drills as they give us challenges to fail or succeed. They keep me working.

[@Stopitkathy]

Mike Waidelich was my dad. I love seeing him remembered this way. ❤

[@wyattaw2]

Your dad was a good man. He always treated me great. I had a lot of respect for him. He said my shooting style was unorthodox but I got results and didn't want me to change. Last time I saw him we played in a poker tournament.

[@sgtcwhatley]

His work influenced many people.

[@bobkohl6779]

Shot with your Dad for years. I remember when he went off to the training range to work

[@Bodaduchee]

@@sgtcwhatleyespecially lil boys. He liked their winkies and pooty holes.

[@Bodaduchee]

I had surpressed the memory but after therapy sessions… it has came out. My pootyhole had been violated by him multiple times and it still hurts mentally but not physically

[@harrydexter8426]

Mike, was a good man. He was a good range master for Bakersfield PD. We had good times together & he is sorely missed!😢🇺🇸

[@bobkohl6779]

Hey Harry!! How you doing guy? Still have my old Mohawk? I still miss Mike Horne, we were yakking a lot before he passed, but it was hard for him to sit down with Prostrate cancer

[@dinoc.5537]

There was a nice write up of this test and the Bakersfield PD folks in the most recent Dillon Precision hard copy. I agree with Ken, at the time, the Bakersfield PD shooting skills were elevated by the wisdom of not only the testing, but the philosophy of needing the testing and the will to get ready for it. As a result, the Bakersfield PD lost no officers in shootings during that tenure. Great shooting Bill, well done.

[@bobkohl6779]

Add Mike Horne to the equation. Mike Ran KPPC an IPSC club and Mike was a brilliant match designer

[@smokinaces661]

The qualification is still alive and well. The drill is still run within the Bakersfield Police and has stood the test of time.

[@DuaneThomas1963]

Literally I am on the phone right now - he's talking to me as I type this - with Mark Pixler, the editor of The Blue Press, informing me he just got a call from someone at the BPD letting us know this qual is still used by the department. Too cool, I say.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Great to know, thanks!

[@smokinaces661]

@@DuaneThomas1963 pretty awesome to know our Department is getting some good coverage! It’s a harder scoring for Range Cadre and SWAT guys.

[@jourdenne]

Mike was a dear friend, and a fantastic individual.

[@harrydexter8426]

It is good to see a response from a friend! Pray all is well for you & the family! GOD Bless!👍😊🇺🇸

[@hopewilliams6705]

This is one heck of a good low round count drill going over alot of skills

[@EdUsrey]

Thank you for this video! Mike was my mentor. When he retired, Dave Boyd and I took over Rangemaster duties as the Bakersfield Police Department was growing. The good old days! I've been retired almost 20 years. The BPD target had a 7 inch Ten Ring and an oblong 9 ring. You couldn't have many sixes and pass.

[@pipebear7036]

Fantastic drill. Thank you so much. I tried it this morning on the range from cold and slick as suggested. Scored 76, so I need to work harder - mainly on the reload stage. Thanks again.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Right on

[@dusty_dietrich]

Thanks for the great video! I love these drills you show us. This one is simple to remember but not easy to do. Very good for essential skill building. Every time there's a new Ken Hackathorn drill video I get as excited as a dog before dinner. Plus, Ken just looks and talks cool. He reminds me of a town Marshal in an old west movie.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad you like them!

[@coryfluck5]

I absolutely LOVE this drill! I couldn't wait for this video to be posted! Thanks Ken & Bill!

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mdell4959]

Great article in the Fall Dillon Blue Press about the development and results of this COF. As a result of this qualification course Bakersfield P.D. had a hit percentage of 85% in gunfights when the National average was 15%. I think it is significant to mention that unlike many qualification courses there were actual consequences for failure to qualify, up to and including dismissal from the P.D. Which is how it should be in my opinion. Thanks for posting the drill

[@Yoda052]

It really hurt Bill’s feelings to drop that point… but man he can certainly shoot…

[@oldcop18]

As someone who’s been in as gunfight this course will build the necessary skills to survive the street.

[@andrewbates6840]

This drill and Merle Haggard are the best things to come out of Bakersfield.

[@mischieftim8249]

Don't forget Buck Owens and Joey Porter and the QB for the LV Raiders Derek Carr

[@nc_classics9767]

The last one might be the baker field sound in country music

[@richardmiller5456]

This was discussed in the recent October issue of the Blue Press. It was started in the late 1960s by a former Green Beret turned BPD officer. The Department did it with revolvers and clamshell holsters.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

That’s a good thing to point out, I figured it was revolvers. Significantly slower than a tuned single action.

[@paultrent]

The 10 round test was implemented after the PD had switched to semi auto pistols

[@DuaneThomas1963]

@@paultrent. Hi there. I'm the guy who wrote that article in The Blue Press. The truth is that when Mike Waidelich's BPD qual was implemented in 1968, the department was still using revolvers. Then over Mike's time as the BPD rangemaster, the department switched over to the Smith & Wesson Model 59, then 1911 .45s, then finally the Gen1 Glock 17.

[@paultrent]

@duane thomas The drill we are talking about did not come about until well after (years after) the department made the switch to SA pistols. Mike developed the skills test as part of his development a codified basic test.

[@DuaneThomas1963]

@@paultrent. According to my info, and this comes from discussing it with Ken Hackathorn, who in turn got his info straight from Mike Waidelich, when this test was implemented the BPD was still using revolvers.

[@kagyu1]

I read about this in the Blue Press , but couldn’t clearly imagine it. Thanks!

[@diehardoutdoors]

Thanks you guys so much for these videos, I’m sure you guys extremely busy, don’t have a lot time, this drill videos are my favorite, Ken, bill and Larry, I save them watch old ones over and over practice them myself, watch them night before I go to range

[@yellowboxster06]

I’m certainly impressed for whatever that’s worth. Of course on the accuracy achieved, Bill had the advantage of shooting one of his own amazing designs.

[@That1_CopDude]

Watching bill dial his self in and get into the “competition mode” was pretty badass. If you know, then you know.

[@christophers5664]

I’m definitely going to try this drill the next time I’m at the range.

[@johnw4999]

Nice drill! I’ll try this next trip out w my EDC XTEN and Norma spec ammunition. I practice a lot from AIWB concealment at 7 yds., one shot on an eight inch target in 2 seconds or less. It’s definitely very critical to clear the concealment garment while acquiring a proper grip and drawing.

[@ginogomez5401]

Fantastic drill. Excellent shooting Bill!

[@216Ronin]

Outstanding as always Ken. Great low round count assessment that lets you know where you really stand.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@silverbackgorilla2112]

You guys are the best, thanks for all of these great videos.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Thanks for watching!

[@bosse641]

Thanks guys.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Our pleasure!

[@texastomsshavingtips6359]

That seem to be a really good drill, thank you for posting this video!! Very good shooting Bill, you still have it!!

[@francischambless5919]

I did these drills for qualification back in the 90s. We also had to draw and fire from the hip at 7 feet which took some practice, although you hoped you never had to be in that dire of a situation. I appreciate that you brought up the added time caused by a duty-rig as well as concealment. That impedance is often overlooked.

[@jimtewa8096]

You are both fantastic, I am a big believer in staying proficient and seeking more training, I am also a big fan of Wilson Combat firearms, I am asking for a long time to start your classes again at Wilson Combat I believe not only owning the best handguns but to have the best training to go with them, Please Start The Training Classes Again, God Bless You Both.

[@chadmorgan82]

Great video. Thanks for all the information.

[@triggertimetraining6963]

Great drill. Thanks

[@Shawnmehaffey]

Thank you, fellas! Great drill

[@timstanley3307]

I love this video. I have 2 full size pistols one with a red dot and one without. I agree with everything he said on accuracy and speed , everything. I can consistently hit a pie plate at 25 yds without the red dot. After that distance it goes to the red dot. But who shoots that far on self defense

[@chuckhaggard1584]

I shot this COF over the past weekend in a class taught by Justin Dyal, this is a challenging and fun course. As far as the video, my understanding is that the original qual used a 7" circle, not the 8" circle on the IDPA target, so it looks like Bill would be down two more points.

[@no_handle_required]

man, i wish i could afford you guys. Solid, tested, old school, all how it should be.

[@jerroldkazynski5480]

Here on the streets of Bakersfield!

[@manikenpachi2760]

Any person that’s a first time gun owner! listen to this man!

[@thedirtygot9570]

Bill is the 🐐 excellent shooting

[@DavidSalamone-vn5kl]

Thank you. Explains lot.

[@flaco5581]

Wow great shooting Bill!

[@rebelscumspeedshop]

I love it when people say" it's the way of the future" . The simple truth is that electronics can and will fail. It's a matter of time. Using technology as a tool is great. Becoming dependent on it is a weakness . I love the GPS on my phone but I love using a map and compass because it gives me the empowerment that I'm not totally dependent on electronics.

[@deluxe1030]

i live in Bakersfield! had no idea about this. cool .

[@clee6746]

Interesting enough and certainly not an easy drill. You have motivated me to try it out when I hit the range next time. It will be a well-spent 10 rounds.

[@westtexas3041]

I will be trying this drill soon. Thank you Ken and Bill.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Very welcome

[@fourchanner]

Such a effective way to train.

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Great range drill, good shooting bill, thanks

[@JDangly]

What a badass!

[@jimsiress9687]

So Coo! 👍 Bakersfield CA. COP QUAL. Interesting 🤔 Used the CAT scale there back in my big rig days. I'm glad to have never needed what I strapped back then 🙄

[@jackgreenstalk777]

I love range time. Draw, shoot 2 on target is such a good practical skillset to have. Get good at getting your gun out and making hits, but not just adrenaline fueled mag dump into single target

[@JGNM-mp9cs]

How significant were the results of this qualification program? As previously mentioned, 85 percent hits in gunfights when the national average was 15 percent. Put another way, Bakersfield officers were outperforming the national average in police gunfights by a factor of 5.7 (rounded up). Not one officer was killed in a gunfight while Mike Waidelich was the Bakersfield PD rangemaster.

[@rogercrouch5866]

Love the drill !

[@Kamil987987]

Really good shooting, amazing huge guts

[@ammooth1592]

I am 1 of them guys Ken 💯. I'm aching badly to shoot rounds thru my 9mm‼️Im gonna stop making excuses, and get to the range 🤝

[@leroymorris6036]

Thanks guys

[@gowilsoncombat]

Our pleasure!

[@kubikariYOU]

Good shooting Bill, Great drill!

[@markhankins3023]

Excellent test, makes sense to me! 🎯

[@gowilsoncombat]

Glad it was helpful!

[@fredboudreaux9663]

Words of wisdom

[@johnm5695]

As always great stuff.

[@paulkube3901]

Excellent drill !

[@gowilsoncombat]

Thanks 👍

[@hardtack8776]

Good shootin’ Bill 👍😎😊!

[@rollercam351]

I shot a lot of rounds in and around Bakersfield. Waaaay back, I got 30 ground squirrels in like 23 minutes with my 17hmr. Beautiful place, except for the month August!!

[@russdennis7026]

Nice shooting Mr. Wilson!

[@marcusjs2856]

Great shooting Bill! And no, I could not clean that today.

[@rogercrouch5866]

Love your guns Bill ! You're making me look bad ! But I can live with that !

[@andrewpinheiro7202]

Nice shooting Bill

[@rwadhams1]

Wow, that was a great learning vid. Subscribed!. Excellent stuff.

[@vegan-cannibal714]

The man is definitely a professional. I doubt I could beat him, but if he had a bad run and I had a great one. Of course it would have to be a odd Thursday I think I might inch past his score.

[@dwheeler016]

Good drill.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Thanks 👍

[@emersonranara9124]

That right there is loooong-term proficiency, personified. Textbook shooting, Bill! P.S. I'm dying to know where I can get a shirt just like Ken's 😅😆

[@soldadoanonimo3867]

Bora Bill!!!

[@fitchboi80]

Thanks

[@gowilsoncombat]

Welcome

[@beatwolf44]

Wow I remember when Bakersfield was a truck stop and a few houses and it was a Texaco truckstop

[@Davidg368]

Of I remember correctly that couourse of fire was to represent different distances ans officers could face . If I remember correctly the 60 foot mark was a typical distance from a sidewalk to a door on the other side of the street

[@andy_in_nh9243]

Justin Dyal of Dialed In Training sent me here to review and practice in preparation for his class.

[@ericbertoch673]

Great drill, thanks gents!

[@gowilsoncombat]

You bet!

[@WGH-ef5ze]

That’s just great set of standards. Outstanding. Nice low round count drill. Outstanding- shooting Mr. Wilson…Almost as outstanding as Ken’s shirt! 😂😂😊😅

[@sherrick13]

Good drill. Ill try it.

[@Rif_Leman]

This looks like a worthwhile use if time and ammo.

[@WFORacer]

Going to attempt this next range session, thank you gents.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Have fun

[@nathant3897]

Usually the pd quals are a joke but that looks like a good one

[@dangerdoberman]

Careful of those guys in those above-the- knee shorts. They mean BUSINESS

[@sombra6153]

That course was designed for six shot revolvers, so that reload stage was a real challenge.

[@DuaneThomas1963]

Hey, there. I'm the guy who wrote that article on the BPD qual published in The Blue Press. Time standard for the reload drill is 6 seconds for semiautos, 8 seconds for a revolver.

[@sombra6153]

@@DuaneThomas1963 you jogged my memory and it was indeed 8 second for the revolver reload. Still faster than some folks can fathom.

[@whomagoose6897]

@@DuaneThomas1963 Was the 8 seconds for revolvers allowing the loading single bullets from a loose pouch? All without the use of a six shot speed loader. You can definitely load a revolver with a speed loader in less than 8 seconds.

[@DuaneThomas1963]

@@whomagoose6897. In the late '60s, revolver speedloaders were not commonly issued items for police, but Bakersfield issued them. So, to answer your question, the 8 seconds was using a speedloader.

[@tomlubas1512]

WOW

[@joshpomponio2993]

Don’t think can beat bill but gonna have to try that thanks 👊

[@jimmyfrazier3761]

Beat Bills time? Not anytime soon for me!! But with practice.... Someday! Maybe? Lol great drill gentlemen!

[@blainelashley2120]

cant wait to run this drill with my cqb!

[@geico1975]

Good shooting Bill, don't know if my nerves would've allowed me to hit in the circle at 60 feet:) Especially on camera:) Nice drill though Ken and here's to WC.

[@daleparker4207]

Looks fun. I doubt I could beat Bill's time

[@jasondubois3399]

I went out and shot this drill on Friday. Ended with a final score of 90, which I think isn’t too bad considering I’m entirely self taught.

[@user-lg4zm5nj8t]

Going to try...

[@gowilsoncombat]

Hope you enjoy

[@TheShalomstead]

For my defensive handguns I still prefer tritium iron sights. I’m a fairly young man who doesn’t have the income to be a “1%er” and shoot thousands of rounds a year. So I also can’t really afford to purchase sights that are as expensive as the very few guns that I actually own. If I was going to spend that kind of money on sights I would be more willing to put one on a rifle or PCC where the advantage would be much more noticeable.

[@bobbioook5612]

Love it

[@tedy5676]

whats in the coffee can attached to the post?

[@jasondubois3399]

I know that this video is over a year old and nobody is going to see this comment, but I’m happy to say that after a lot of training and practice I was finally able to score 100 on this drill from a duty type holster.

[@zen-Tii]

Could I beat Bill’s score? I guess my next trip to the gun club will tell.

[@RaiDaveRivella]

What holster are you using? I would like to purchase one for training rather than use my IWB. Thank you.

[@davidhodges7535]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@oldrabidus2230]

I may have missed it but what was the penalty for inaccuracy? What was the target zone?

[@joshuahassell1831]

So if I shoot 5 down zeros and 5 minus 1 in all the par times I would score a 95? Is that correct?

[@DuaneThomas1963]

You lose one point for every point down from possible on-target, and one point for every quarter second over the time standard. So, let's say that, on Drill #1, two shots from the holster in 1.50 seconds, you shoot a down-0 and a down-1 in 1.69 seconds, that would be two points down total - one for the down-1 hit, one for the the overtime.

[@lw3918]

Born and raised in Bakersfield 51 years now. I've watched it turn into LA a. Far too many people far far too much traffic In crime like this city has never experienced before. Plus c***** weather And everything is Brown 9 months out of the year.

[@Mr1Alex91]

Bakersfield native myself nd I completely agree

[@johngifford7725]

Bakersfield born raised too. Lived their most of my life. I'm surprised to see any shooting drill named after BPD that doesn't include multiple mag dumps and no hits. We Finally got out of there. To all my fellow Californians I say... Move to Texas, or Arizona, or anywhere but here.

[@lw3918]

@@johngifford7725 The only reason why I'm here is for my elderly mother. Ice tried to get her to leave but she won't.