10 Subtle Differences Between Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask (Part 2)

[@SonicJrandSarah]

I never knew that the blue bubbles in Ocarina of Time were attracted to bombs. Kind of reminds me of bugs being atracted to light.

[@runnersdialzero1244]

Same. I can't wait to totally forget this useful information by the next time I play through the game. ;(

[@katieyuill2291]

I didn't know that either. Probably because I never considered fighting them with one as they are too slow

[@akward4210]

In addition to using spring water and the Song of Storms to grow magic beans in Majora's Mask, planting magic beans during the second day will also cause the plant to instantly grow if the beans are planted outside, due to the rain on that particular day.

[@jonsmith5058]

Pretty sure that is not true.

[@akward4210]

@@jonsmith5058 I just tested it myself, it works on the N64 version, you just gotta wait till it starts raining on the 2nd Day. Works great in the spot outside the Deku Palace walls.

[@jonsmith5058]

@@akward4210 interesting, my comment comes from watching plenty of MM randomizer and knowing the various logic for the checks. Some are locked by beans and I’ve never heard or seen someone using day 2 rain as logic to be able to grow a bean to reach the check. Maybe it only works in a few areas. I can’t see it working in Great Bay Coast, Inverted Stone Tower Temple and I feel like stump chest in Termina field also not. Perhaps its only for deku palace?

[@MrMudbill]

@@jonsmith5058 Do all those places have rain on the second day though? I feel like the rain only appears around Clock Town / swamp.

[@jonsmith5058]

@@MrMudbill yes, which would contadict what the OP said which is beans planted outside grow cause of rain on day 2. Thats quite different to beans planted in the rain at deku place grow….

[@fabianscheinost9763]

Because finding out about bean fairies 20+ years later... incredible!

[@LooygiBros]

We ourselves are still learning new stuff about these all-time classics by the day! Thanks a lot ♥️

[@Dreadjaws]

Majora's developers when designing vendors: _"Legs are coming. Are you excited?"_

[@josecarlosmorenomendoza357]

That vendor breaking the fourth wall was creepy AF

[@TheCosmicChicken]

Every copy is personalized...

[@Mrtyjr]

Unbelievable that I never knew about that hidden cutscene that plays when playing the Song of Storms next to a magic bean plant... @ 6:15

[@joesunday199]

Me either.

[@runnersdialzero1244]

Same. I've only been playing the game 23 years, though.

[@shepard-commander]

I just found out the other day that you can also play it in those places Navi turns green and apparently targets nothing, and you'll get "big fairies" to spawn.

[@TheCosmicChicken]

I knew about the big fairies, but, yeah, when I saw this part of the video with the animation of the bean plant elongating, my jaw dropped. Amazing that there was a unique animation and unique actor model I never knew about all these years.

[@nintendokings]

Same, I've never seen that cutscene despite playing the game over a dozen times since it came out!

[@wompastompa3692]

Speaking of bombs, OoT's explosion hitboxes radiate out over time while MM's are instantly at max radius. It's why hovering is basically free in MM, while OoT requires you to do things that shorten your lateral movement (wearing hover boots, backflipping in to a wall, etc.). Edit: I believe it's also why single bomb superslides are free in MM and finicky in OoT.

[@dinorpg]

Playing Oot since the game was released. I have never, EVER, seen or known about that bean sprout animation when you play the song of storms.

[@mynameisNeo369]

Same and I've played for 20+ years 😂😂😂

[@Rafael_Oiticica]

Me too! I'm completely baffled

[@TheCosmicChicken]

Right?!

[@1gnore_me.]

I'm actually in shock, I thought I knew everything about this game. that's insane.

[@eduardodias3707]

I believe the timer in Majora's Mask was made that way because of the timing game you play with the Postman. It makes that game harder to hit exact 10 seconds. Then again, you can use the Bunny Hood to make the timer appear just like in Ocarina of Time.

[@MrMudbill]

What timer does the bunny hood make appear in Ocarina of Time?

[@GuillaumeLeValiant]

@@MrMudbill He just meant that the bunny hood makes the postman mini game easier, due to having the timer during it always activated

[@MrMudbill]

@@GuillaumeLeValiant I'm confused about the "Just like in Ocarina of Time" part.

[@gonxmaster]

@@MrMudbill I think he means that normally, whwn you try out the Postman's minigame, the timer visual cue will only show you Minutes and Seconds. If you wear the Bunny Hood, it will also show the milliseconds. The main benefit of the Bunny Hood though, is that it will allow you to have the timer display all the way to the 10 second mark, whilist if you don't use it, it will banish after 3 seconds, while also deafening the ticking, leaving you with a null chance to clear the minigame.

[@GuillaumeLeValiant]

@@MrMudbill It wasn't very clear Indeed 😅

[@JacobDragyn]

Now I'm trying to remember if I've never attacked a Blue Bubble with a sword in Majora because Ocarina taught me that I couldn't.

[@hanburgundy4317]

I've always blocked em to drop the aura and then used the sword.

[@Dreadjaws]

I played the games back to back, so many of the gameplay differences shown here caught me by surprise.

[@OtterloopB]

Evolution of N64 Graphics: Bottle Rendering

[@JJAB91]

I mean MM was running on more powerful hardware than OoT. People seem to be forgetting that to play MM in the first place you needed the Expansion Pak which doubled the N64's internal RAM from 4MB to 8MB.

[@BelieveIt1051]

Blue Bubbles surviving the Master Sword seems lore-breaking.

[@LinkCanBackflipYAY]

good point lmao but some random mountain man sword kills them

[@tenkenroo]

Maybe weaker ones live in termina?

[@Pai_de_pet]

Ganon was weaker than bubbles after all...smh xD

[@arthurbarros5189]

They probably tought the bubbles being immune to sword was annoying. 1:41 this is a fricking good shot

[@BR-jw7pm]

“We’re not pulling your leg” I see what you did there ;)

[@Mabbit_YL]

I went from thinking you have to kill skulltulas to pass, to thinking you had to time passing when they're not looking, to now knowing I can just stop. All those times getting blasted off the wall 😂 thanks for the vids!

[@shepard-commander]

I also just found out you can stop. My method was to slingshot as many as I could before climbing and then hope for the best.

[@dobra_n0c]

same here xd

[@jonsmith5058]

I’m guessing they changed the bubbles cause of all the new forms the make it less finicky to fight when you arent Link. Also surprised you didnt mention the blue bubble cursing in MM that stops you using your sword and that you can use Song of Storms to remove it.

[@RaveNinja1401]

I always thought the bottles in OoT looked like plastic bags, like those they give you a goldfish in or in which some drink stands in Mexico used to serve you soda along with a straw

[@heroofangst]

Yeah, me too. That’s why I always found it funny when you catch a fish in the bottle.

[@paraquemolestarseenp]

Or a Nice tepache

[@rock0011]

Omg me too 🤣

[@nyr_Ea]

Since childhood, I always had so many questions about those cows in the grottos of OoT and Majora's. How did they get down there? Why do they seem so resigned to their fate? What do they eat? How does that grass grow with next to no sunlight? It's those weird little quirks that made these games the most memorable ones I've ever played.

[@chaotickreg7024]

Then you play Master Quest and they are protruding neck-up from Jabu Jabu's mouth. MQ used cows in weird ways.

[@heroofangst]

And the one inside Jabu Jabu’s stomach acid is somehow alive and mooing

[@JJAB91]

I always took it as the locations in these games are just scaled down versions of what they're meant to represent "in lore" i.e. a grotto like that could be just a small part of a larger cave and the cow got in through some entrance unseen by us.

[@SharpingtonTheGreat]

I suspect most of the differences in Blue Bubbles has to do with them being in only dungeons vs wandering the overworld. It makes more sense to have them be a tough when they're in a contained room, and serve as a challenge that must be overcome to progress. Where as if they were that complicated and strong in the overworld you'd either have to stop what you're doing to slowly defeat them one by one, or have a semi-invulnerable sword-cursing enemy hassling you EVERY time you pass through. The changes also make them easier to defeat on horseback.

[@beaudalleomusic3525]

Just when I thought I’d finally seen everything in OoT, you go and show us that Song of Storms trick. Amazing.

[@Henskelion]

While not really as subtle as most of the ones mentioned in this list, some little things that always stood out to me between the two games was how OOT's explosion effects used a billboarded sprite that just rotated, while MM had an actual 3D particle effect, and how MM's pause menu scrolls *significantly* faster than OOT's.

[@Nephrite_Harmony]

the way bubbles are in both games is tedious but i'm glad they wisened up and realized people want to spend less time fighting something that makes you unable to draw your weapon, as for NPC legs it's the most obvious thing i've never observed, they knew you'd be able to see at slightly different heights as a goron and zora

[@kitkatboard]

I can't remember if this anecdote has ever been in one of your videos, but I found out yesterday that the employee working the night shift at Clock Town's Trading Post is a fan of the Indigo-Gos ! If you speak to him as Mikau, he'll be very flustered.

[@rodrolliv]

Cows just chilling in the cave

[@maskofthedragon]

7:58 99% of Majora's Mask players have probably never seen this timer before

[@dell7013]

@4:00 do they attempt to chase bombchus as well? I love how the shop owner follows the camera off the table @ 5:55

[@BubblenutMcMuffin]

That's a fascinating question, I'm curious now too

[@dell7013]

@@BubblenutMcMuffin time to get on fb marketplace, find a Nintendo, and discover the answer myself !

[@nicb4526]

I'm stunned about the magic beans and playing the song of storms. I never thought about trying that in either game, let alone OoT giving you fairies!

[@PlatinumFalls]

Also a tiny detail with the bombchu they sound slightly different, Majoras bombchu will gradually pitch upward as you place it down 😊

[@MeatSim9]

That bit about Swords and Bubbles is really interesting. You would think the results would be reversed, since in OoT Link is using the SWORD OF EVILS BANE, and in Majora it's just a regular sword. Maybe Bubbles aren't inherently evil..?

[@michalodder2502]

Or maybe it’s because termina is a whole other world and so are some enemies

[@BR-jw7pm]

I’m replaying OoT again and you’re telling me I couldn’t just bombed those annoying blue bubbles in the forest temple?! Now I feel ripped off

[@wompastompa3692]

Use Deku Nuts, they're really good for crowd control purposes.

[@blazen123]

but why would anyone try this when they just got hookshot and have had the op deku nuts all game and both are faster

[@bed22455]

Your videos are so well done! So cinematic in their presentation and usually there's info that even as a long time Zelda fan I never knew! You're doing such a fantastic job and I really enjoy your work!!

[@Pai_de_pet]

Same here. I would have never known if it wasnt for this videi

[@seanpope1890]

I didn't know magic beans would give fairies with the song of storms?! Thats really neat

[@MrFoxInc]

I... I simply cannot believe that thing about the Song of Rain with the planted beans is real. MM already seemed like a stretch but the footage from OoT legit has me wondering if you just modded that into the game to mess with your audience! But I guess it's real... Amazing. Another great video that leaves me speechless about a game that I thought I grew tired of because I played it too much!!

[@rubendoomzday1789]

7:19 now you're just showing off 🤣🤣🤣

[@AlefSousa017]

I love this series of videos. The games are so similar and yet there are so many details that are different between them. I'm feeling really dumb for only now realising the bombchu thing lol

[@omegarugal9283]

majoras mask is the 2.0 version of ocarina of time

[@maskofthedragon]

4:53 The AMOGUS room!

[@Shadowzero4]

Just like many others, I also did not know about the fairies from the magic bean plant. But did you know that in Majora's Mask, the rain from Day 2 also will grow the bean sprout?

[@Syrus2006]

I love these little videos; I'm always learning just by watching 'em. Thanks so much for 'em boys

[@nicb4526]

(Random) I suddenly realized that in OoT you are held for 7 years into the future, but so is your stuff. So if you catch a fish or fairy or bug, they live for 7 years also...stuck in a bottle.

[@Sunshainn]

5:52 lol I love that he was still looking at you literall breaking the 4th wall 😂 like "what's that camera guy doing there?"

[@knux5796]

those blue bubbles were so annoying, knowing that bomb trick wouldve been so great

[@devonm042690]

The reason Blue Bubbles in Majora's Mask die to 1 arrow is because adult-exclusive enemies from Ocarina of Time that returh in Majora's Mask were rescaled to the Kokiri Sword.

[@chompythebeast]

Blue Bubbles seem to have been made easier overall, what with their susceptibility to being attacked with the sword in the first place. Seems they wanted to put more of them on the field at once and scaled them down a bit accordingly, which I guess fits with their flexing the added polygon count of the Expansion Pak

[@NateIsCorrupt]

I love all the details it goes into these videos. Great job!

[@jo.sevigny]

For #1 and #7, I wonder if the extra ram provided by the expansion pak allows for more polygons (on the bottles and on the npc)

[@omegarugal9283]

more polygons? nope the extra ram is used mainly for textures, but majoras mask was compiled with a later revision of the fast3d library which allowef for more polygons

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@omegarugal9283 I have to ask because you seem to know. Is it possible to make games in this engine anymore? Or is it really a renderer that requires a ton of extra stuff to work?

[@omegarugal9283]

@@chaotickreg7024 if you had the source code of majoras mask, so far only the code for ocarina of time has been reverse engineneered

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@omegarugal9283 I meant the engine. Like, remove all the assets, remove Zelda, is it possible to use fast3d to make games anymore?

[@omegarugal9283]

@@chaotickreg7024 yes

[@Damian_1989]

5:52 guy gives you such a glare, he's like *"the fuck are you looking at, punk?"*

[@HelpTheWretched]

Well this explains why every time I play either of these games, I have several moments of "Could have sworn that worked differently before..."

[@ArcRay20]

6:14 how in the FUCK have i NEVER heard of this until now??? wow! i recall hearing of the many little weird tricks back in the day, but ive never heard of that one.

[@ageislie4874]

Love how cinematic this is

[@Lexyvil]

I never knew about the Song of Storm working on magic bean plants in OoT! Very interesting. Also thanks for the nostalgia.

[@0DRONZER]

haven't watched your channel in years, the new videos look awesome

[@gabrielgava9731]

So cool man, congrats for the video!

[@maplesyrup6475]

Your camera work for these videos is excellent!

[@guik824]

Oh my god! I never imagined the beans have this secret with song of storms in both games! im very surprise, amazing video again man

[@arcticxabyss]

it's so funny watching the blue bubbles spin around in circles as the bomb is about to explode in OOT. 😂

[@sergioortiz7124]

In Ocarina you can kill Skulltulas by hitting them with the Hookshot or arrows either in the fronts or backs you don't have to wait for them to turn around. But if you hit them in the back in Majora's (the skull part) they don't take damage and instead just swing and block your path.

[@BubblenutMcMuffin]

I wonder, does the deku stick break if you hit the armored side of a skulltula in MM? Or does it simply cause them to swing without breaking the stick, like in OoT?

[@Vronkof]

At at 5:50 did the vendor just followed the cam by himself?

[@devonm042690]

Has anyone figured out how Torch Slugs work? Do they randomly take between 2 and 4 hits? Are there three kinds that take 2, 3, and 4 hits respectively and each Torch Slug position is randomly assigned one of the three? Do they take 4 hits but attacking them during the transitional phase where they're going out actually hurts them even though the hit effect is the same one used when you try to attack Blue Bubbles when their fire is up?

[@Xunkun]

Hm, I have wondered about that, but I assumed that they do have like... cool down/i-frames when they're flipped, so they don't take damage untill enough time had passed.

[@devonm042690]

@@Xunkun That's what I thought too, that's what I thought that effect meant. The problem with that, and the reason I wondered about the difference between 2, 3, and 4 hits is because I've have Torch Slugs die in 2 hits, and I've had others survive 3.

[@laurah.638]

Hey Ur Videos never fail to Bring me joy, keep making this great content!! :)

[@Germadian]

Still learning new stuff after all these years! Thanks for the video!

[@johnpett1955]

Some of these subtle differences, like with the blue bubbles and the cows speaking, seems to add to the evidence that majora's mask takes place in a dream.

[@LuxOx412]

29 years old and it had never occurred to me to play the song of the storms to make the plants of Zelda Majora Mask grow 😢

[@Warri0rLink]

6:12 Looygi out here dropping brand new tech for a 24-year old game! How has that been there the whole time?!

[@joesunday199]

I didn't know quite a few of the things from the video. Bravo!

[@WhoIsSirChasm]

Do the Blue Bubbles in OoT also chase after Bombchus, or is it just the stationary ones?

[@moreno.al2]

@5:50 does anybody else noticed the vendor keeps looking at us?

[@TheHylianBatman]

Wow, I wonder why bubbles got so changed. Very interesting!

[@KingMorgan6]

Hey I love your video!

[@BonesAlexander]

I've always been interested in stuff like this.

[@SuperflyMiceguy]

Just tested out the Song of Storms thing on my OoT cartridge for N64. IT'S LEGIT! I never knew about this.

[@devonm042690]

Torch Slugs, Blue Bubbles, and Red Bubbles in Ocarina of Time have a slight innate defense, interestingly enough. I think they're the only enemies that have this. They don't take damage from normal strikes with the Kokiri Sword or Broken Giant's Knife.

[@orgixvi3]

I had no idea about the wallskulltulas not going after Link if he stops moving, or the free fairies when playing the song of storms on those plants.

[@King_of_the_Shrooms]

It is super interesting to see how many small differences there are between the games. Like most people would think that the differences should be bigger once’s as Controls whatever, but no, Nintendo had a year to change the bottle-model

[@streetg850]

I love these videos as this is definitely one of my all time favorite genres and it does show the technical limitations between them as well. Like them polygons from OoT to Mask are crazy different.

[@VonSnootingham]

How have I, in 24 years, never seen that beanstalk animation?

[@michaelappleseed1993]

1:48 Love that shot

[@hearther3811]

which by the way, bomb explosion sprites are different from OoT to MM

[@amybukouras5179]

Another subtle difference is that on Majora, the music quality is different when you go to the shops or the shooting gallery. It sounds more quiet and muffled like it's being played from an old radio, whereas in Ocarina, the music in the shops and the shooting gallery is louder and has the normal sound quality

[@zach.0]

When I was a kid, I thought the bottles were actually bags, like the kind you'd carry a goldfish in, because of their weird shape in-game.

[@ExiledQ]

That OOT bottle is so stylized and gorgeous

[@REL10000]

I wonder if he's made a video that shows that bubbles drop different things depending on how you kill them. ( Sword gives 3 hearts, fire arrows give 30 arrows, ice arrows give one heart, and light arrows actually give you a purple rupee. My favorite is the sword.)

[@Carboy45]

If only I knew the song of storms grew the beans that would've saved so much time lol.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

5:50 "Hey do you fuckin mind pal"

[@Phantron]

1:52 the Majoras Mask Wall-Skulltulas only exist in this japan exclusive room. !

[@Raiigen]

Wow, I didn't know that playing the Song of Storms would cause the beans to release three fairies. The game is old as dirt by now and I'm still learning new stuff. One of the many reasons why Zelda games are of my favourites

[@BubblenutMcMuffin]

I wonder, does the deku stick break if you hit the armored side of a skulltula in MM? Or does it simply cause them to swing without breaking the stick, like in OoT?

[@elianewinter2638]

6:20 whaat i never knew that! :0 that’s so cool

[@Kaitri]

As a kid i never was sure why you can bottle a fish in oot. I dropped them in soooo many places but just never found a good use for them.

[@TheSegacampGamerandWerecamp]

I noticed Giant Skulltula's can't be hurt with the Hookshot in Majora's Mask but they can be killed with Adult Link's Hookshot in Ocarina of Time

[@QTG87]

Thanks for your hard work

[@jonasgisel3707]

I would give you a second thumbs up for that bullet time spin attack ^^

[@brandikins11]

2:04…what grotto is that in? I swear I’ve played every inch of that game and have never seen it.

[@MrMikander]

Very cool guys as usual!

[@PkmnRayhak]

You should do a video comparing each NPC counterpart.

[@dominicbonogofski]

2:00 it'd be impossible to know this unless you played the version where this room actually was used. The American version doesn't use this room.

[@bewearstar9462]

Only one walltula is used in the international version of the game

[@dominicbonogofski]

@@bewearstar9462 I know. They're an endangered species in Termina. Hyrule has too damn many of 'em.

[@Henskelion]

I was about to say, that always stuck out to me, there's just that one random Wallskulltula in the entire game in that one random hole. Similarly the Peahat, common in OOT, shows up only once in a single hidden cavern underneath Termina Field in MM.

[@ianleather5699]

I always thought the Ocarina of Time bottles looked incredibly painful to be stuffing into your pockets

[@Quaxo19]

Oh yeah, it's time again for a great video!

[@lucascastro5778]

Which one do you prefer? Ocarina of time or Majora's Mask?

[@Brain-washed2]

5:50 also the shop keepers seem to follow the camera?

[@darkone292]

I never knew about playing the song of storms to a bean plant in Oot

[@2l84me8]

I didn’t know about a lot of these. Pretty cool.