10 Then attend it I shall

[@aussiejed1]

"Certainly a credible one from a man who's fought in a war." Right there, through all the "Gerald" comments, you see Marbury does truly respect Leo.

[@ZATennisFan]

Absolutely.. I always thought Lord Marbury respected Leo immensely. He did the Gerald thing to wind him up. Those he didn't respect he basically ignored. So him winding up Leo was a backhanded compliment of the highest order

[@thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504]

I like how this Episode Ends John says to Leo "God Bless America!" and Leo Replies with "God Save the Queen!" a Very Fitting Ending!

[@jimmy2k4o]

I wrote a silly story once about a british loyalist conservative and a radical socialist that are old friends and when ever they drank the tory would toast “to the workers of the world” and the socialist replies “god save the Queen” It was inspired by this scene.

[@KikoSavesTheDay]

Despite Lord Marbury's drunken schtick, his acknowledgement of Leo's military service was quite heartfelt. He and President Walken (!) are my favorite incidental characters.

[@hibob418]

They totally bury it, but the "you got beat by Argentina" line, and his reaction, was one of the subtleties that made this show so great.

[@Sagdrag]

I completely missed that!

[@lelandrb]

I imagine Lord Marbury was about 0.1 seconds away from saying "that's not quite as I recall it"

[@danielchilton5400]

For those that don’t get the reference it’s about the Falklands War.

[@chao2609]

Considering the UK won the Falklands war, it it might have also been a little dig at the world cup in France '98. The episode was broadcast in jan 2001 and was probably being written between 99 and 2000. Argentina beat England in the 1998 world cup last 16.

[@MrGruffteddybear]

When he turned to Leo to shake his hand and said, "God Bless America" and Leo responded with, "God Save the Queen you could see the respect those two really had for each other.

[@drtmuir]

Roger lived on the upper west side of New York, and I'd see him on the subway in the afternoon going to the theater, when he was doing a play. NBD, just another New Yorker going to work. RIP Roger. ♥️

[@maxcinanjoroge5638]

Roger Rees, Rest in peace. Your talent and presence will be missed!

[@giovannisanseviero5726]

+Maxcina Njoroge Yes. Thank you for mentioning this.

[@NobleHam]

I love the throwaway line, "you got beat by Argentina." Things like that are why this show was so brilliant.

[@bradtorville5526]

I genuinely loved Lord Marbury as a character. He was always mindful of his position and of protocol but always was steadfastly supportive of the President as well, even before becoming ambassador. His advice was always sound. His drinking was there mostly for effect since it would put most he came in contact with off guard and they'd likely be dismissive of him but he was always keenly aware of what was going on and his role in whichever circumstances he found himself. Nice well-written character, deftly portrayed by Mr. Rees.

[@sunnchilde]

"You think you can make it stop? Well, you can't." This was the most profound scene this character had. It set a very high bar for the future.

[@briansmith8898]

This is one of the best lines from the show, period. Wisdom from the old world. The United states thinks it knows everything, and it doesn't. England doesn't have the same power as the US, but it has far more history. They have seen everything before.

[@michaelotieno6524]

Turns out he was right. As missile defense got better the Russians and the Chinese invented hyper-sonic missiles that are faster, more accurate, they can change direction and harder to intercept. The missiles simply got better.

[@giovannisanseviero5726]

A truly wonderful talent. I pray he found all the ways to fulfill all his hopes and dreams as both a professional actor and mere mortal, and during the worst of times when the lights would go dark, and only he could accept and make peace with. I remember him best from his stand-out moments on West Wing, among others. He had the special gift of making the lens his tool for all our own to enjoy, and repeatedly go back to. Rest in Peace, Roger Rees.

[@josephmanno4514]

This is how you know that Marbury always respected Leo. He just loved messing with him.

[@pbdye1607]

"You got beat out by Argentina." There was a missed opportunity there: "Well, first time for everything."

[@eshnajizzle]

Love the beginning: - ...and you got beat by Argentina." -"Oh! ...Well...yes." :'D

[@sunnchilde]

I've seen this scene a dozen times and it still makes me tear up.

[@MrPeterpiper1969]

Sleep well Roger. And yes, I intend to post a similar sentiment on every Lord Marbury video I can find this morning. We'll miss you.

[@michaelhope8899]

MrPeterpiper1969 Why not, he deserves it

[@ZATennisFan]

There is so much talent in this one scene. So much is conveyed with so little being said

[@Vonstadt]

God Bless America God Save the Queen A Classic scene between "Gerald" and His Lordship :)

[@EmiLovey10]

I love that despite all the antagonism and arguing, in the end, no matter the situation, Aaron Sorkin lets his people come together, whether it's Leo and Lord John Marbury or Josh and Donna. He always, while maybe not having the happy ending, has the people in right relationships, which is partly why I love the seasons he wrote so much better than the ones he didn't.

[@hollywoodwerewolf]

When Bartlett mentioned to Lord John that 'he got beat by Argentina', he had a Falklands flashback.....

[@googoo-gjoob]

The *GREATEST* show in the _HISTORY_ of television.

[@johngrace199]

The exchange of God bless American and God save the Queen demonstrably shows the equal respect each has for the other's role.

[@ered203]

I was in college in the mid 90's, and had a computer science prof that I was close to. He assisted me on some projects. We were sitting in his office talking one day, and he mentioned being in Huntsville, AL over the summer with his business partner working on something. He was describing how they made a program that would visually represent over 25 different variables at the same time on one 3d graph. Color, line thickness, length, etc. Pretty neat stuff. Out of the blue, it hit me. Yo, professor. Why would anyone need to see 25 variables at once? Huntsville, you say? You guys wouldn't happen to be trying to shoot down missiles would you? His face dropped and he got real quiet. Then he kind of smiled and said. "I am not at liberty to discuss this information with you any longer, and I have to warn you that if you ask any more questions, I am required by law to report you to the FBI." I laughed, "really? So I'm right?" He said, "No really. You can't ask me anything more about this or I have to make a call. Seriously." Point taken, doc. He wasn't trying to brag on being in such a team. He was illustrating how the design thought process works. I just kinda put it together.

[@LestatandBerial]

Despite all the comments of his mental health, Lord John Marbury is a wise man, and a wise guy.

[@jkornfeld]

I wouldn't mind seeing a show with Lord John Marbury as the main character. I think that would be interesting

[@wholeNwon]

Reese, of course, is dead.

[@julietantonio1049]

Ah my FAVORITE West Wing character. Too bad he's not real, I would've loved to have met Lord John Marbury

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

Don't blame you! - Most of my favorite recurring characters of this show are republicans! Sad that a tv-show sometimes has to remind us, that you can love and respect people with opposing views!

[@jesusthroughmary]

@Darusdei The writers made an error. He is not Great Britain's ambassador, but rather the ambassador of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Also, The Queen is "Her Majesty The Queen", not "Her Royal Majesty".

[@Matt-cz6ti]

Great Britain? The United Kingdom, surely?

[@michaeltalley51]

Actually, "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

[@fencius]

“You got beat by Argentina.” “Oh, uh….” Underrated line.

[@etcetraetcetra3173]

The missile shield argument by Lord John might as well be the argument about the current border wall. And he's right...

[@ericmiller93]

That’s the right sentiment.

[@marcbarlow8099]

the full title of Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary...

[@mitchellminer9597]

The feeling of hope ....

[@RuleNr34]

"I have to see people in the order in which they arrive and you got beat by Argentina." "Oh, well, yes." That has to be the sneakiest Falklands War reference ever made.

[@jesusthroughmary]

His Lordship stated in another episode that he was "John, Lord Marbury, Earl of Croy, Earl of Sherborne, Marquess of Needham and Dolby, Baronet of Brycey".

[@tartfuel]

@aussiejed1 Absolutely. and the fact that Marbury teases him shows that he likes Leo very much.

[@Jamal-jv8yc]

And now we have hypersonic nukes.

[@DotBone89]

"You got beat by Argentina" Obviously, football and not the Falklands!

[@ColRangerFontana]

What a show.

[@johnmoraites6020]

U were beat by Argentina. O well. Hilarious

[@hanscombe72]

Beat by Argentina HaHAAAAAAAA!

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

The West Wing is a fantasy world with the best of them. We'll send you a postcard from the Falkland Islands!

[@rodrigo95]

See, my mind also goes to the 1986 World Cup and the goal Diego Maradona scored on England. Considered to be the best ever in a World Cup. A lot of history between those two countries. Well done.

[@cremebrulee4759]

I always assumed that these ceremonial / procedural portrayals were at least in the most part accurate. I hope I was right. It's interesting to see these things, which go back so many, many years, as illustrated by the language used.

[@roddaman7545]

Just.. love it.

[@jesusthroughmary]

That being his highest rank in the peerage, yes.

[@PaxAmericana24]

I thought this scene was fantastic. Lord Marbury's voice is full of the begrudging cynicism when he says "You think you can make it stop... Well you can't" He wants to believe that Leo's ideal can be realized... But he cant.. he knows better.. The burden of knowledge means you can never again be blissfully ignorant.

[@timsmith1125]

Even after ten years, this is still an underrated comment. Well said.

[@aussiejed1]

"You got beat by Argentina." Surprised they didn't write Marbury a wittier comeback, along the lines of "Return of the favour, I suppose" or something...

[@marcbarlow8099]

One must not live without the set of texts edited and/or written by... DeBrett's!

[@vectorm4]

Gerald !!

[@jesusthroughmary]

There hasn't been a "Kingdom of Great Britain" since 1801.

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

Jim Raynor!!!

[@McFrosty2014]

In which case he should be addressed as the Lord Needham.

[@athenastewart9167]

Her Royal Majesty--wtf?

[@Darusdei]

@jesusthroughmary and the point is?

[@HUNDOLOS]

@Darusdei "The writers made an error."

[@McFrosty2014]

@jesusthroughmary He would also be introduced has John Marbury, Earl of Croy, not Lord John Marbury.

[@johnmh1000]

Sorry to be a drip, but it would not be "her royal majesty", but "Her majesty, Queen Elizabeth". Just saying...

[@MrTagapinasako]

British people are so smart except the black butler (Jeffery) from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air....

[@brontewcat]

Please. It is her Majesty, not Her Royal Majesty.

[@townesrc]

... And that's how Aaron Sorkin makes TV his biatch! (too bad the people portrayed are a bunch of left-wing liberals, but it's a Great Drama and one of the best written TV shows of all time. You just gotta ignore the politics.)

[@sandmboy1]

Her Royal Majesty?! Oh dear! as for Marbury.the titles a British peer has-if he is a hereditary peer - would all be courtesy titles while his father is alive and he is the oldest son. If his Mother is the curernt holder and is herself the only child of her parents then the same would apply-hope that's clear to all to you Yankee rebels! as a PS the current Queen is the first oldest daughter to become queen since Mary IIi (Victoria inherited following her uncle)Usually the oldest boy would get the throne and no daughter would inherit automatically-he law will change very soon but wont come into effect until at least george vii dies,

[@MrPeterpiper1969]

Jonathan the law of primo-genitor (the eldest male inherits regardless of how many daughters there are older than him) has already been changed. However as things stand it won't apply for some time as Charles is both Elizabeth's oldest son and child, William is Charle's firstborn child and William's son George will follow him to the throne barring untimely deaths or the ending of the Monarchy itself. The current line of succession is Charles -William-George-Harry(William's brother). William and Kate are about to have their second child as I understand things and if it's a girl she will slot in between George and Harry.

[@upthebracket26]

Not many people know this, but the 'beat by Argentina' line is a reference to the time the argentines successfully invaded & liberated the Falkland islands in the 20th century

[@jimmy2k4o]

Successfully? Lol

[@iansocawarrior]

I love the show, but it drives me nuts that The West Wing, which claims to be high-minded and internationally aware, can make such glaring errors in addressing the ambassador. He should be addressed as 'Lord Marbury' or 'Your Lordship'. Officially, he would be known as 'John Marbury, the Baron Marbury'. Only if he was a knight of the realm would you refer to him by his first name ('Sir John'). It might seem quaint to some foreigners, but the British are rather proud of this sort of tradition!

[@ebybeehoney]

Can you imagine these little ceremonies with tRump? He can't say most of those words that rolled off Sheen's tongue. What a national embarrassment...