10 Things I HATE about the HOBIE PRO ANGLER 14 Kayak! Buyer Beware!

[@letun3481]

Very helpful! Thank you! Love my Old Town 10.6 with instant reverse :)

[@Oldbasshole]

Price and weight would steer me away from this one . Great honest review

[@MrBassTV]

Right on

[@kevincoffey6022]

Actually love to paddle the Hobie! Great exercise for this 73 yr old.

[@Finch08]

Your top 4 minus the 3rd reason is why I purchased a Native Titan X 12.5. I am so happy with my choice.

[@johnnyboombatz7328]

I own the exact same boat, Mike Iaconelli red shark. I love this boat, I am 6’4 and weigh 250 pounds and it is soooo stable. The peddle drive allows me to peddle all day long and not get tired. I am 57 years old and can fish for hours in this thing. Yes it is heavy, but I own a truck and just slide it into the bed with little effort. I have fished four tournaments this year and managed to load and unload the yak by myself with little difficulty. Have had zero issues with the 360 drive, so far, love the drive. Never had such a maneuverable yak before, can turn on a dime. Would definitely recommend this boat.

[@loudnoises4627]

I second this!

[@rhawr]

The best comment on the channel. I have a 2012 PA12 and still keeping up with the 360.

[@marvinmonk1628]

I totally agree. Without the 360 drive, there is no such thing as a quick turn from a dead stop. With the 360, I can essentially neutral steer or rotate the kayak without having to build up any speed.

[@chillios2222]

saw a guy using it , and its a fast rig

[@morganvanschuyver]

I love my Old Towne sportsman pdl 106. Bout to get me a kayak trolling motor for it so I can cover water a little faster without wearing my legs out.

[@marvinmonk1628]

For horizontal rod storage the only time I use all three on either side is going offshore. It’s east to turtle in the surf. You won’t break rods if their horizontal. Also, I carry rods when I’m trailering. When I launch I have most of them in rod holders. Now that I’ve used the PA14, every time I get in my Outback, it feels cramped…almost tiny. I put the large rod holders in the molded in rod holders. Then water is not an issue. Every trip I spend time minimizing my load. It helps.

[@simo11355]

There is no way in hell I'm buying a PA 14 here in Europe. There are €7500, I can get a boat for that price... They are NUTS! And btw, watch out for the hobie fan boys lol.

[@Jake-ky9ed]

In AMerica here and no way I’m spending that much on one here! lol could get a small skid for that much money.

[@0906danny]

😂😂

[@jbro800]

Some thoughts from a previous Hobie PA 14 360 owner to go along with some of these points. If you have a truck bed and the scupper cart and also are a capable person loading and unloading this thing is pretty easy without a trailer. Also as far as it leaning to the right or the left by default, same for me and i was under the impression that was just the way these are. Rod storage is only manageable with small baitcasters / rods with small eyes if you are going to use all 3 per side. 100% agree about the paddling, this thing will straight up anger you if you paddle it due to the hull design. Reverse on the 360 is damn near instant even though you use your hand to do it, almost never did i get frustrated with the reversibility compared to a Sportsman 120. True this kayak catches the wind like a sail, granted the 360 drive almost negates the wind. Use a regular kayak with paddles or a prop drive if you think wind is still frustrating in this compared to other setups. The molded rod holders should have drainage, simple as that. Always take the paddle just in case the drive breaks but as long as u have room in the back the paddle will sit there without much frustration unless you bring your whole shed with you and if you do just buy a big jon boat.

[@Gator-xi2jq]

You would have been better off with old town sportsman 136 auto pilot. I use to be a hobie owner but I got the old town sportsman 132 pdl and it’s a great yak and my truck hauls it everywhere I go.

[@kensantiago132]

Quite informative. Thank you.

[@user-eo1qq4xz8w]

I bought the PA14 in 2008 when it came out. Had three more since plus a PA12. There are quarries in my area that I couldn’t get the 14’s out because of weight. Tried the 180 drive on a lighter outback and it sucked lemons, plus it was a wet ride. Did my research and bought two Old Town Predators/bigwaters 132 with the PDL drives. Instant reverse rocks plus they are fast hulls. Caught a great sale at Austin Kayak. Loved the Hobies PA’s, hated the weight, and no reverse at the time. Love the Predator PDL’s. Been a few years now. Both drives are still rocking with original propellers too. Its a true fishing machine.

[@rogercollins3]

For the rod storage, just get the horizontal holder for the h-rail and put the butt your poles in that and strap in. Works great, but I only use the holders to keep an extra rod really handy, everything else goes in the h crate behind the seat. I like the cockpit to be clear of everything. Good review, I do agree with the rest of what you said. It's expensive, it's big, and it is heavy. I don't mind weight and length, but I do wish Hobie would knock some off the MSRP on these things. I'm running an older PA12 but really want the PA14. I don't think I'll get the 360 though, the 180 is fine for what I do, and I'll be putting a motor on it to boot.

[@imperialwhovian3461]

That's what I like about my Knarr, with their rod holders that work with the rid tube's it's much easier to nicely store the rods and keep them closer to the sides to keep as much deck space as possible

[@themadscientist5025]

Really for a object that is 14 ft that everyone complains about the weight .. what do you want it to weight 10 pounds.. I have read so many men that are 65 + it's too heavy (or is it that your to old?)

[@kobayashimaru8114]

Good points to consider before buying this kayak but I'm not hearing a lot of true cons. I know, they're just things you personally hate about it and that's fair. For the horizontal rod holder, there's an accessory that holds the butt end of each rod separately which sounds like you'd want. Even without it though, I'd rather have the holes up front to keep the tips apart than nothing at all, no? About the reverse issue... I think the pros of the mirage drive 180/360 far outweigh the lack of instantaneous reverse in traditional pedal drives. It seems like a nit pick to me to have to pull a cable or turn a dial. Price is definitely insane for what it is.

[@attiumeyami417]

bro the price and weight are enough to steer most people away. 5-6k is a down payment for a new car or 5-6 months worth of rent thats quite a bit for a plastic kayak. only kayaks that usually reach that price range are carbon or composite kayaks made for expeditions or long distance paddling. the weight is huge as well. although hobbies tend to be on the heavy side but the pro angler is insane. as a guy who is in his 20s and fit I can say that to me it is a decent annoyance to throw this yak on the roof of my car. but for someone who is not fit like me or on the older side or has shoulder injuries..... this kayak basically becomes something that is gonna chill in the garage and gather dust. also it being a nightmare to paddle is hudge especially with the 360 drives that are known to fail...... like imagine ur out in the middle of nowhere and the mirage drive breaks down.....yup ur gonna know what hell is when u got to paddle back and if ur in strong wind or current ur better off just attaching a line to a tree or anchoring and waiting for Mother Nature to stop being angry.

[@kobayashimaru8114]

@@attiumeyami417 Yea I mentioned the insane price in my comment. I was mostly talking about feature-wise. Weight is certainly a potential issue for some but for able-bodied folks not a big one. If I can paddle my loaded canoe solo then I can handle a chunky kayak.

[@SRH420ful]

I bought a Brooklyn Co kayak 13 ft and I'm very close to 150 lbs if not more. I have a trolling motor (under $200 to replace) where the foot peddles go the whole thing was $1600 on Amazon. Instant forward instant reverse swing it for any direction as well, so convenient and my jet ski trailer converted effortlessly. I also modified a swimming noodle to fit perfectly in the rod holders one push shoots out all the water when I get back and I have yet to find a drop of water in the sealed section and I found I don't need scupper plugs plus I installed a lovely rubber bottom that looks like teak and feels like a dr scholls insert. I have 11 rod holders none horizontal and I use floaties (stabilizers) behind my 48qt yeti cooler in a metal frame tied down behind my 5 and 7 gallon buckets behind the seat for cast net and bait well with bubbles. Your thoughts?

[@kevincoffey6022]

Got a Hobie PA14 & the Malone 3- Kayak trailer 5 yrs old for $4000. Best $4000 I have ever spent. Love my Hobie

[@MrBassTV]

Sounds like a good deal

[@AnxiousBaits]

I’m selling exact setup for same price. We’ll see how it goes.

[@user-wi1nx4yw1h]

I have 2 PA 12s, they take up a lot of space in my garage

[@Gator-xi2jq]

A plastic boat that flexes in the heat. Old town don’t, and with hobie being bought out by investment group I’m hearing a lot of hobie not covering warranty.

[@juli82E]

Have you had the Hobie pro 12ft with the 180 drive and what would you say about it vs your new one on the points you touched?

[@MrBassTV]

I have never owned the PA12, but I did own the Lynx with the 180 drive and love it. The 180 drive is much more reliable.

[@juli82E]

@MrBassTV I have the Oldtown PDL 120, I like it, real stable, hardly takes on water at all. Just wish it had the transducer set up and the kick up fins on the drive...

[@eldandonsmith5372]

and I hated spending $600.00 on a used 16' Jon w/ trailer!

[@itsrecordingman]

cheap

[@tedmelgo3313]

If PA14 is that good then why you need 3 of them, 1 should be enough. Funny thing is that Rolex shows exact time as $50 watch.

[@MrBassTV]

I don’t have a Rolex but I hear they are nice watches

[@chillios2222]

saw one of these on the lake , the dude was moving out , he might have had the angler though, they are fast, wealthy guys do buy them , but I saw ONE on the lake, and the dude had it onto his trailer fast, it makes no sense to talk about money , the guys that have the money WILL buy them

[@charlesfitzgerald3201]

Great video Thanks , I’m in the market for one of these , my main question for you, since you’ve owned three, which is the most reliable ? I’ve been told the 180 drive with turbo fins is the MR , on like a 2020 0r 2019 hull , I think it was , what are your thoughts ? Thanks

[@MrBassTV]

The 180 mirage drive is practically bulletproof. You will have fewer problems with it over the 360 drive. I wish I still had the 2019 hull. The newest models seem to have the most quality issues.

[@charlesfitzgerald3201]

@@MrBassTV Thanks man , I appreciate the feedback.

[@rickymetzenbomb7548]

Lots of used ones that are great price

[@soulknight89]

Price and weight got me looking elsewhere for kayaks. I'm still looking though. Might settle with a Vanhunks Sauger 12' tandem. I have my 11 yr old who I want to take out with me. Not many brands making tandem kayaks for fishing. Hobie does have their compass duo and oasis, but they are too expensive and heavy.

[@attiumeyami417]

if it dosent have to be a pedal kayak get a perception tandem. I had that one before I sold it to buy my adventure island. and it holds up just fine. if it has to be a pedal kayak just buy a used adventure island (half or less than half of what the PA costs) and u can put trampolines on it (sometimes owner sells the trampolines with the yak) and ur son can sit on the trampolines. with the added bonus that u can sail it. AI is heavy but dosent weigh anywhere near as much as the pro angler and its manageable.

[@pitchkapizda8355]

The biggest one of all that is the paddle holder’s definitely terrible design

[@Mike-ew9zn]

Dude it’s a kayak, not a boat!!!

[@kenbrown5449]

When you spend six thousand dollars on a kayak, you would expect to have a worry-free piece of equipment. I believe Hobie is just trying to push these out as fast as they can and making changes to quality/quantity of materials to save money. Profit margin thinking is their bottom line. They should take a look at Canadian canoe companies that put out top notch product 99 percent of the time. I was seriously looking into Hobie (ie. why I'm watching this video review) but I believe I will be looking somewhere else.

[@johnguth5376]

It is not a kayak it's a barge!!

[@teamuggie]

Love? Hate? Sell it.

[@Mike-ew9zn]

Only way to buy now days is used!!! 😎

[@MrBassTV]

Especially Hobies. The prices have really been dropping lately.

[@sel7245]

Would build a 60 pound. 300$ plywood super pro angler😉

[@jbro800]

Hopefully you do a video on the build.

[@johnguth5376]

I'm glad I am not a peddle pusher!

[@user-fp5ep7di8r]

I trout fish # nucanoe unlimited , for &6000.00 i buy a sleathcraft 13 ft. Before i ever buy a hopie, sleathcraft includes trailer decked out $7000.00

[@attiumeyami417]

as someone who owns both a pro angler and adventure island I can confidently say that both can be roofed on a sedan sized car...... but ur gonna hate ur life. best way to roof the pro angler is to utalize a kayak cart and utilize ratchet straps to strap it down to the trunk (other wise cart will slip off) and place a mat or piece of flat plywood under the cart to evenly distribute the weight on the trunk before ratcheting it down. this will greatly decrease the risk of denting the trunk. then take the kayak and put the bow (front of the boat) on the cart and use the wheels to get the kayak on top as u push from the back of the kayak. this will work on most sedans that have a traditional trunk however if u have a trunk that resembles an egg or oval shape ur kinda screwed. I do not recommend this boat for anyone that isn't willing to deal with the main 4 issues this man mentioned especially the weight and transportation part. cause ultimately the price is somewhat negotiable u can just buy it on craigslist or buy a pro angler 12 (much cheaper) but theres nothing u can do about the weight and transport. u either got the muscle and youth to put it on top of the car or u got a cargo van or trailer to transport it. for anyone not meeting either of the requirements I would definetly steer them to a revolution or outback. shure not as nice as the pro angler but atleast you can use it and won't be just a fancy toy gathering dust in your garage

[@johnguth5376]

A fool and his $ are soon parted!!

[@Jcsals13]

Get an old town?

[@MrBassTV]

I owned an autopilot 120. In some ways it was my favorite boat. The reason I sold it was the trolling motor was just too slow. If they ever beef up that motor I will jump on it.

[@lives2fish911]

lmao ! i love my pa 14 and yes sir its heavy but it is so slippery on metal. i have a short bed with a load extender to haul it and i had to wrap the cross bar with foam so it would stay up there while i went to the rear to push it up on the truck but absolutely after a long day of fishing i dread having to load it! I am considering getting a trailer, but my only complaint is i bought the railblaza ctug if i had to cart it to the water and let me tell you i don't care how tight i get it just doesn't perform if it hits a pebble. i dropped kicked it into the brush and had a friend help me carry it. might still be there on the trail down to emerald bay on Tahoe if someone wants it.

[@MrBassTV]

Lol. Did you watch my video of the things I love about the PA14 by chance?

[@davida4771]

RTR, Mr Bass

[@MrBassTV]

Rammer Jammer!

[@Mike-ew9zn]

It’s a kayak! Ridiculous prices on Hobie! Buy a boat so much better off…

[@MrBassTV]

I have a boat which I love, but fishing from a kayak is completely different. They are both great.

[@noujaiyang1513]

Just buy old town pdl

[@johnguth5376]

#1price#2 service! Do not listen to the hype!!!!

[@thataustralian4078]

not trying to be rude but you look like walter white

[@longtabitracks]

Get a Jackson

[@raypod6967]

I have nothing nice to say about kayaks lol i will leave it at that out of respect for mr bass

[@Gene-kl1br]

Why are people so damn strange . Cant people not be giggly .

[@huckfin1100]

And people who like to waste money are the ones buying it, it flips just as easy as most other yaks break's just like other yaks so no !

[@MrBassTV]

I will disagree with you on it flipping over like most. It is one of the most stable boats out there, but any kayak can flip. There are alot of reasons to buy something else, but stability is not one of them.

[@themadscientist5025]

Lets see it rains and your non covered kayak takes in rain on the kayak.. Really .. don't for get to put a return it be cause it didn't make you coffee this morning? LOL