10 Things I Hate About You: Kat, Rom-Com Feminist

[@Serai3]

Kat didn't change. She's just the same badass at the end as she was at the beginning. She just found someone who decided he _likes_ her as she is, and she doesn't end up pretending to be "tame" the way the original Katerina does. That is the best possible ending for a love story!

[@campkira]

it depend on world at time.. what matter if you love someone.. you don't try to made his life too hard....

[@Serai3]

@az_koala Sad for you, then.

[@tourniqut]

@az_koala I think is more interesting when they dont change for their lover: 1- Because we've seen it almost everytime in movies so it's not groundbreaking, 2- Because even if people are flawed, they will still be flawed after they find their romantic companion and it's just corny to pretend that love solves everyrhing.

[@char932]

@az_koala i think you need to ask yourself exactly what "flaws" you wanted her to change about herself.

[@mcgil8891]

Please kat was a disappointment. How can such a fierce character forgive a guy who played her? Just because he bought you a guitar? You can't buy love or forgiveness. AND the way he stopped her argument by kissing??! The conclusion of the movie is women CAN be tamed by a man. Ugh the misogyny!!

[@sabelerickson4264]

my dad surprisingly enough showed me this movie when i was 12 and made a point to tell me about how admirable Kat was and how i shouldn’t take any shit like her lol. thanks dad

[@meghansullivan6812]

Omg I love that for u and ur dad !

[@sahibabedi760]

omg you're so lucky to have such a wonderful dad

[@sarahv9713]

My dad showed me this around the same age and then couldn't figure out why I wound up an angry feminist. Sometimes I wonder if he was only in it for the soundtrack lol

[@elenapopovic2527]

I only want to procreate with men like that

[@546-apoorvaranjan7]

Your dad is a hero❤️

[@trinaq]

I loved Julia in this role. Fun facts: Kat wasn't supposed to cry while reading the poem at the end, but Julia was genuinely overcome with emotion, that the director kept that take in the finished film! 😁🎥

[@jacquiedls]

@@Chris-rg6nm Julia Styles actually did say that in an interview. research before you comment kids!

[@saint9958]

Ooo that makes sense. To be honest i genuinely wouldn't expect the character Kat to cry since she's very good dealing and hiding them. But to hear the actress herself broke down a lil 😅 make sense...

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

i 100% believe this. watching that scene you can tell that her tears are pretty genuine.

[@oddsofrhythm280]

I watch whole movie for it because that moment hit hard.

[@evenessa]

Most times in movies when someone cries, it's always just a few tears and squinching eyes. Here the emotion was just raw on her face. Her skin turned red and it makes me cry every s9ngle time I watch it. It was raw emotion

[@andreaduarte8054]

It’s so interesting to me that people find Kat so unbearable because she’s always someone I wanted to be like! A person who doesn’t care what people think and just does what she wants.

[@someonerandom8552]

As a kid, she was like *the* role model for my older cousins and I lol. We would even recite the ending poem.

[@monicacreator3168]

I cant handle angry, aggressive, privileged people, and that's the vibe she gives me

[@bubbles4897]

shes condescending and holier than thou

[@andreaduarte8054]

kshamwhizzle I understand what you’re trying to say but I do think that so many of us live for others and care to much what people think of us. I think that most of us would be better off being more like Kat.

[@jjba3571]

She is a badass

[@denomava5470]

The thing is that Kat wasn't tamed, Patrick liked her for who she was, as fierce and opinionated and passionate; he learned about the things she was interested at, and understood what Kat had been through, and the same the other way around, she softened her edges but didn't change her core. Kat falling in love with Patrick doesn't make her less of a feminist.

[@tuhimerameraa1]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@campkira]

dont mean she still going made his life a living hell...

[@pizzahutcaraccident]

@az_koala she was definitely a feminist???? It IS an important part of her character??

[@roxie6884]

@@campkira lol. she didn’t make his life a living hell. they both stayed the same people, but softened each other’s edges. what did she do to make his life a living hell again?

[@mcgil8891]

Kat falling in love with Patrick doesn't, but accepting his apology because he bought her a guitar?! The guy played her and continuously lied to her even when she suspected something wrong. Someone like her wouldn't forgive such a thing at the first time he tries to apologize - if you can even call that an apology. He should have tried harder for her forgiveness.

[@Ana-tt8rv]

The problem is that the women who genuinely don't want a romantic love or kids are still portrayed as sad/selfish.When are we gonna normalise that?

[@mrtheluckybucket]

Normalize this, normalize that, normalize deez nuts.

[@monabohamad2242]

Nah thanks it probably should just NOT be "normalized"

[@bixler3463]

Normalize not every women wanting love and kids I agree .. but your question seems like it’s saying normalize those women are sad of selfish so I’m confused but I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t be lol long day. But I agree like some massive trauma or mental problems keeping women from wanting something different for themselves.

[@weltschmertzz]

So many haters here with closed minds who oppress people with beliefs not the same as theirs. 😣

[@Ana-tt8rv]

I thought my statement was clear - the first 2 kinds of women are not to be considered any less feminist than the 3rd. Also one kind of woman should not be used to belittle the other kind and especially a 4th kind, the career woman who chooses not to marry or have children and who is "happy" about her decision. Why is it difficult to understand not all women want children and that should be okay.

[@maggierobertson2962]

I really like that in the film Kate forgave Patrick because she cared about him and wanted to, not because of some grand gesture of his. She entered their "happy ending" by her choice of him not by accepting a gesture from him.

[@NoezieXII]

I want to live a life like yours where a highschooler buying someone a guitar is not considered a grand gesture haha

[@maggierobertson2962]

@@NoezieXII I always saw her poem as an expression of her forgiveness of him, of her choosing to want to continue a relationship with him. The guitar came after that. The guitar showed a thoughtfulness on his part which was nice, but it wasn't what affected her decision.

[@NoezieXII]

@@maggierobertson2962 fair enough!

[@BlackCampariBlue]

@@maggierobertson2962 I always viewed her poem more as being melodramatic then forgiveness, which was fine by me, but in consequence the guitar bugged me. I viewed this gesture and how it instantly soothed Kat as undermining the autonomy she was showing us all through the movie. Wished she would really have forgiven him in a different way. But then again, I love the movie, love Kat, love Patrick

[@maggierobertson2962]

@@BlackCampariBlue I also have to say I like that while the gesture was expensive it was very personal and not public (unlike the song and dance earlier in the film). He showed he was listening to things she cared about and was more interested in making up for his mistake than in making a public statement. But I'm in agreement with you, I just really love the film so I'm totally biased.

[@satycastro6551]

One thing is undisputable:Heath Ledger is SO hot in this movie

[@bennyton2560]

he set the bar so high I'm still single to this day

[@sarasaiti1755]

@@bennyton2560 me because he set my standards heaven-high

[@pinkstrad]

@@bennyton2560 yeppppp

[@littlegringa78]

Le sigh...

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

Absolutely ❤

[@jonanderson4474]

It had to be Julia. She was a Shakespearean actress before a Hollywood actress.

[@Serai3]

"O" was even better than this film. She did an excellent job in what is one of the Top Five adaptations of his work.

[@trinaq]

Kat always struck me as a deconstruction of her original Shakespeare counterpart. Whereas Kate gradually becomes Petruchio's devoted wife, Kat grows and softens as a person, lets Patrick in, while still maintaining her spunky, snarky feminist approach! 💖👑😍

[@natalym3210]

i agree!! i also think that she went from one extreme personality to the other extreme because of what happened to her and with the ending she might be finding a balance that works for her

[@butterflybunnyunicorn2518]

100 agree!!

[@Serai3]

As the video explains, there's a popular viewpoint that Katerina does the same thing - she and Petruchio reach an unspoken accommodation that lets him pretend to be dominant for appearance's sake while she's the one who's really in charge, and they're both happy that way. (He gets to be king and she's no longer viewed as the bitch.)

[@mcgil8891]

Please, kat was a disappointment. How can such a fierce character forgive a guy who played her? Just because he bought you a guitar? You can't buy love or forgiveness. AND the way he stopped her argument by kissing??! The conclusion of the movie is women CAN be tamed by a man. Ugh the misogyny!!

[@voradarkwitch840]

​​​​​​@@mcgil8891 He didn't play her, he really liked her when he got to know her. She forgave him because he bought her something that was meaningful, with the money he got from taking her out. She also really liked him back. & he wasn't trying to shut her up, he really just wanted to kiss her. Because he loves her & thinks she's beautiful & sexy. He cared about her early on because he respected her & she wasn't that bad.

[@citrigagne2029]

Isn’t it ironic that people say that it’s only Kat becomes more tamed when Patrick also softens up when he falls for her? He goes from a troublemaker and an outcast to someone who is charming since he opens up to her and listens to what she says without dismissing her as a difficult women unlike everyone else.

[@CuteAnimalVideos2580]

What troublemaker? That was a false reputation, he explained that he spent the last year taking care of his grandpa, other people were starting the rumors that he was in jail etc

[@citrigagne2029]

@@CuteAnimalVideos2580 That is true but he does do certain things that aren’t really safe and he does break a few school rules. For example, you do not use a Bunsen burner to light a cigarette in a lab and also he had police officers chasing after him when he sang that song for Kat by taking over the announcement speaker.

[@lizanna6390]

@@CuteAnimalVideos2580 he did expose himself to the lunch lady which is pretty bad. He's not as dangerous or scary as people think but he still a bad boy.

[@vantae692]

@@lizanna6390 it was a bratwurst 😭 probably freaked the lunch lady out but he didn’t actually ‘expose’ himself

[@dewilew2137]

I know I’m old because I still can’t believe that 1999 was 21 years ago.

[@paloma4444]

Holy shit you are so right

[@rachellekelner8719]

Dewi Lew me too. And I was born that year 😂

[@Tinkerbe11]

Welcome to the club!

[@deadsoon]

I'm 21 👁👄👁

[@vsh1998]

Bruh j was born 21 years ago

[@nasrinfarjana4222]

Video suggestion: The”Coming of Age” genre, Explained.

[@trinaq]

Yes, please, the Coming of Age genre NEVER goes out of style, as nearly all of us can relate to it at some point! 💕

[@damolaa1599]

Jordan Theresa did a great video on this genre

[@dewilew2137]

Nasrin Farjana ooooh this will be a deep dive. Hopefully they’d explore other cultural dynamics that highlight the differences in one person’s coming of age story versus another. I’m sick of hearing straight white male stories in mainstream media.

[@yardenoved599]

And the lack of realism and false hopes it gives

[@shalini_sevani]

This is my favorite genre. A Bronx Tale is one of the best ones.

[@isidorabojovic6859]

Video suggestion: “Bad Bitch” character- explained

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Yes! Like Joan Holloway, Cheryl Blossom (Riverdale version), Janine Kishi, or the support group sketch in "Black Lady Sketch Show"

[@elleyeah746]

They have Femme Fatale and cool girl trope! I know it’s not the same but it’s similar!

[@aathenaiz6151]

Isidora Bojovic YEEEESSS!!!!

[@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165]

Faith in Buffy/Angel.

[@isidorabojovic6859]

elle goes to the cinema I thought most about the receivement from viewers. For example, Cheryl Blossom is a Mean Girl and she has already been analyzed as a dictator but I would like to see why newer generations have a thing for liking those characters in terms of seeing them as “taking no shit and being a bad bitch”

[@sofiamonserrat]

There's not a right or wrong way of being a feminist, every woman in the world can fight against the pathriarchy on their own way. I love this movie and, as in the last little women version (I mean the jo's speach about being sick of this idea of love is for women), we should start thinking about love just as a human need and not only an emotion exlcusively relatable with women.

[@ldragon8480]

Yes there is, if your feminism isn't intersectional it's wrong.

[@raindennis5517]

What the hell are you babbling about?! Feminism is sexism! Swallow it, move on. It’s no different than shovanism being sexist.

[@Julia-hj7nn]

@@raindennis5517 cry some more snowflake

[@bluejay982]

Rain Dennis is it just me or does this guy not know what feminism is?

[@raindennis5517]

Danni Adriano see how if I’m a guy I don’t get to have an opinion in your eyes? That’s sexism. That feeling of pride and superiority you’re feeling right now, It’s just poison in your soul. You aren’t saving anyone, you’re just dividing everyone more. I’ll sit if I want to, I’m not your dog, no matter how much you want me to be.

[@dhfjgktdmfhfj1716]

I love how you took a second to acknowledge that her place in society as a well-to-do white girl did in fact allowed this character privileges that another race or class may not have been privy to.

[@literaIIyshy]

Ikr! I'm glad they did because we all know if she was a WOC she'd have been perceived way differently

[@Sweethearts4969]

not to mention all those times she ripped those posters down... like?? someone WORKED ON THAT, just cause you dont like the idea behind it, doesnt mean you should destroy it lol

[@dhfjgktdmfhfj1716]

@@Sweethearts4969 Yes I thought the same thing 😄🤓

[@Sweethearts4969]

@@dhfjgktdmfhfj1716 LMAO right? also, they might as well acknowledge the privileges of non-POC on all of their videos while they're at it XD

[@dhfjgktdmfhfj1716]

@@Sweethearts4969 I would've been one of the people who worked for hours on one of the posters so I wouldn't have care who ripped it down I would've been upset hahah

[@maggiemcfly5267]

Once I was watching the movie with my little brother (13 years younger than me) and very early on the movie he turn to look at me and with a very serious face he said to me "that's you!" pointing at Kat lol best complement ever

[@amy9215]

I just realized that when Bianca tries to play with Kat’s hair, she puts it up. When she goes to the dance, allowing Bianca to go with Cameron, Kat puts her hair up. Kat also wears the pearls she criticized Bianca for wearing. I think it symbolizes Kat’s closer relationship with her sister and understanding of her.

[@evenessa]

I have watched this movie at least 200 times and this is the first time I noticed she was wearing pearls at the dance !!! This movie still surprises me :D

[@burnedbylove0711]

Thinking that love destroy feminists and change them into a "normal women" is like thinking that vegans only eat grass)) sadly stereotypes like still lives and stops new people from diving into feminism/veganism. As a vegan feminist I just want to say: I don't hate men and I'm feeding on a many delicious things) And my life is not a battlefield it actually filled with joy) I want everyone to be equal and not exploited by anyone else, and it has nothing to do with difficult self-limitation

[@DigiDestined55X]

I wish I could be your friend, but I'll settle for hope we'll meet in another life. 🤗

[@esAmaranta]

I'm a feminist and I do h ate men hahaha but I still love 10 things I hate about you and I don't know why.

[@roronoa3243]

Amaranta Velázquez “feminism doesn’t mean you hate men” they said

[@Jaiwiqik]

Most people just don't agree with feminism anymore like fore example i don't see any protests about any of mans issues. Also in today's society men and woman are equal (the wage gap has been debunked, woman have the same rights as men and even more, a woman could go to the front line, we might get another female vice president too). If your talking about world wide then i do agree with you, places like the middle east and parts of Africa are in jeopardy and the desperately need feminism, woman are to scared to even go outside because they could get abducted and the government won't do shit. Also i dont think any one really cares that your vegan, but if you are constantly rubbing it on someones face as if your life depended on it than yes, people would be concerned. I mean i don't really even understand that what porpuses of going vegan your not gonna slow down animal deaths and if its for your own self-satisfaction then go right ahead no one is stoping you.

[@UnchainedMelodie92]

@@Jaiwiqik Can I kiss you? You took the words exactly right out of my mouth!

[@maggierobertson2962]

Like being funny, the trait of being accepting of female strengths it incredibly sexy. Ben from Parks and Rec is the best example of this I have seen. He's not just accepting of Leslie's strength, hes attracted to it.

[@lokiawriter8077]

Ben and Leslie have one of the best romances in fiction, it’s beautiful. 😊

[@mynameisuju]

Ughhh Ben is still the perfect man. Not a yes man, still argues with Leslie like a partner would. But never let his ego prevent him for wanting the best for her. When he stepped down from the governorship cus he knew she wanted it more and would be better at it... sexy AF. More men like Ben amen!

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

Ben & Leslie are too freakin' awesome! And yes, it is incredibly sexy when a guy supports powerful women rather than being intimidated by them. Plus Ben Wyatt, well he makes me feel a lot of things ;)

[@kaitlynmartin2075]

I love the message of this movie: she's angry all the time because she feels that her ideals are ignored and misunderstood. That is until she finds someone who really understands her and let's her be herself. It kind of takes a weight off her back, in a way.

[@voradarkwitch840]

That's why I haven't had many boyfriends. I wait for those who really get & love me. Out of those I'm attracted to, of course.

[@echofoxyful]

Kat was the first female character I had to look up to as a teenager. She wasn’t perfect but she wasn’t changing herself to make men more comfortable. She’s not mean, just has self respect after learning not to change herself for someone else again. I’m really glad she existed. I still remember watching the movie for the first time.

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

So do I ❤

[@grizzlyalmighty2]

her and elle woods are v similar and i'm so grateful we got both :) i've never doubted myself for a second!!

[@belenlg5978]

cant get over how much Heath looks like current Joseph Gordon Levitt in this movie :O

[@MichaelKerr71]

?

[@amandaf3601]

Yesss They def look alike

[@themadtitan7603]

Nah, if anything the guy at 0:38 looks like a current Joseph Gordon Levitt.

[@mlem6951]

is that meant as a joke? Am confused xD

[@belenlg5978]

@@mlem6951 noup, they look super similar to me

[@TumiMatheba]

Never clicked so fast. Kat was my first feminist icon.

[@joelletatter4063]

Same here tbh!!

[@Samantha-hl8lq]

Omg yes! I've always loved the movie and only later as an adult I have realised why I adore Kat so much!

[@witchplease9695]

Found the racist, misogynistic incel. Single women live longer and happier lives. Men shorten women's lifespan and there's a reason most marriages end up in divorce. We're prioritizing female happiness. Get over it

[@calieblanc6335]

@@Chris-rg6nm that makes absolutely no sense and has never been proven to be true ... shut up

[@TumiMatheba]

witch, please EXACTLY.

[@lismarcel]

The Taming of the Shrew was written when a man could kill his wife and no one asked questions because she was his property. Maybe the film Kate is in on the joke, not sure about Shakespeare's Catherine

[@kristianafilipov1235]

do keep in mind that shakespeare wrote a whole host of strong and complicated female characters, which is really unique for the time, and so the interpretation of kate being in on it is not out of the question. just look at emilia in othello, lady macbeth, beatrice, etc. they all use the agency that they can in their lives, and although the society is sexist and shakespeare portrays it that way, he does a good job of showing women working within the system they have to deal with.

[@Luanna801]

You couldn't literally kill your wife and have no questions asked. But, for example, the concept of marital rape didn't exist in most legal systems because a wife's body belonged to her husband, nor could a wife own property independent of her husband under most legal codes of the era.

[@someonerandom8552]

Whilst I agree that Taming is divisive to say the least in today’s society. I find it interesting that every version I’ve seen, including old movie adaptions always treats the last monologue as sarcastic. Even the Elizabeth Taylor version, she just ups and leaves him there afterwards lol

[@Cyssane]

@Nectar Vam Agreed, Beatrice is a much better example. I never got the impression that she was submitting to Benedick in any way, in fact she directly challenged him to stand up for what's right and defend Hero's honour over his best friend's slander.

[@lismarcel]

@@kristianafilipov1235 I do agree, but I'm particularly incensed by this character because she's starved into obedience. My name is Catherine, so there's another reason I feel very strongly about that, lol

[@bloggerblogg5878]

I hate the idea: women only want love and family.

[@melodyclark1944]

Kat didn't want family at first, but she did get closer to her sister.

[@availanila]

I was suffering from the undiagnosed depression and anxiety and my counselor advised my to get married and have kids coz it would mellow me out he suggested. I got even more depressed and anxious since I couldn't even get a man to like me and then attempted suicide. My new female counselor first threw those terrible advice out the window and we worked out a better coping and thinking strategy and am so much better. That bastard almost caused my suicide by ignoring the issues I actually had and gave me even more issues to weigh me down and insisting they would help and it's my disgusting feminism that had caused my troubles. He still pisses me off to this day; and when he was getting fired for malpractice called me to speak on his behalf, well shock on him!

[@ellaes6602]

But what is wrong that some just want that. I use to get mad because of those things and that woman don't aspires for more than love and kids but then I realized that for some is like that. Why we cannot live in a world where we have everything and we don't make criticism for what people pursues. We can have doctor woman's Engineering, mechanical etc and mother's... We can live in a world where we can pursues all and don't need to apologize to anybody for that.

[@paloma4444]

@Carter Atwellp. OP is talking about how society keeps equating female hapiness with breeding. As if it was an ideal to aspire to and as if more freaking humans were what the planet needed.

[@mandlerparr1]

@Creed Bratton tons of people hate me for it. If you aren't in a neighborhood like yours, where it is the norm, then you are considered lazy, a traitor, anti-feminist, and a bad example. and even in neighborhoods where it is the norm, believe me that there is a mom or two who is being rejected by the group because she doesn't fit in. maybe her child is disabled and she can't go to all the mom things. maybe she is being abused and no one is noticing, they just think she is stuck up. maybe she doesn't engage in the same social customs-doesn't drink or doesn't do prayer groups or doesn't have time to volunteer. maybe she doesn't have the same belief systems or same politics. Maybe she never wanted to be a SAHM, but was forced into it by circumstances and her neighbors can't understand why she doesn't share the same ideology of parenthood that they do. be honest, most SAHM groups are either upper middle class and higher-both liberal and conservative. Or they are deeply conservative. If you aren't those things, especially in smaller populations, then you are hard-pressed to find friends. and the rancor against mothers, especially SAHM online is huge. So, not only can you not socialize in person, but to socialize online, you have to hide your full self.

[@Luboman411]

At 15:03. I chuckled when I heard this line. Yeah, she nailed Hemingway and how awful he was. He was not only an abusive alcoholic, but he was also a shameless gold-digger. He always ended up with women with huge fortunes. I learned about this when I visited his immense boho-chic mansion in Key West and realized that the small pool he and his girlfriend/wife dug up cost $500,000 (mostly because Key West is on a coral island that is impossible to dig up). I was, like, "How the hell did they get $500,000 to squander on a tiny puddle of a pool?" Through the girlfriend's uncle, that's how. She got a huge allowance and then a large inheritance when her uncle kicked the bucket. That's how Hemingway was able to live the jet-setting life he loved--he dug for gold.

[@konraddygudaj257]

"Romantic? Hemingway? He was an abusive, alcoholic misogynist who squandered half of his life hanging around Picasso trying to nail his leftovers."

[@trinaq]

Kat MIGHT be exaggerating Hemingway slightly, but she was definitely ahead of her time, and unafraid to speak her mind, and stand by her morals, which is admirable! 😍

[@konraddygudaj257]

@@trinaq And that's the best thing about her, she doesn't give up.

[@lizanna6390]

At least Hemingway's heroines were shown in a sympathetic light and not as bringing everything on themselves.

[@Meg_intheclouds]

I’m the kat of my class, people don’t necessarily view me as scary but I’m not afraid to speak my mind and in English especially I am very vocal about what I think. I could feel my class rolling their eyes sometimes, but I just wanted to put my point out there. 😂 when I left a couple weeks ago my teacher gave us all a card each with a message and in mine he said he loved the way my brain worked and the way I was never afraid to speak my mind often going against the majority. My dream career is a lawyer lol

[@literaIIyshy]

*Please do platonic relationship between men and women in film and television!*

[@monabohamad2242]

I'm guessing you probably mean when two People who are a Man and a Woman:(or a Boy and a Girl as in maybe Teens maybe pre-teens/Tweens or whatever): get to ultimately stay Good/Great Platonic Friends or something and if that's what you meant then those are probably rare and if I'm wrong then um that's kinda of why I've said PROBABLY BTW I kinda of HATE it when People whine/complain about Characters who apparently don't ultimately stay Good/Great Platonic Friends even if it's "overdone/overplayed" or whatever and um I'm sorry if my comment has gotten too long...

[@literaIIyshy]

@@monabohamad2242 I'm talking about Olivia and Elliot from Law and Order, Penelope and Morgan from Criminal Minds, Ellie and Paul from The half of it, etc.

[@monabohamad2242]

@@literaIIyshy tbh I'm not sure if I have ever actually heard of any of those

[@literaIIyshy]

@@monabohamad2242 you're welcome to watch any of those shows/movie. The half of it is on Netflix and it's actually a really good movie with great characters

[@lizanna6390]

It does seem rare to have male/female platonic friendships unless one is gay. Robin/ Marshall from how I met your mother.

[@isabellanebs22]

I always thought they were just a nice match, she wasn't afraid of him and he found someone genuine that he liked, it softened both of them up. They met each other's match. I thought it was really romantic actually

[@aluk3]

There's a Korean webcomic inspired by the original play and it actually handled it pretty good, changing some really necessary things. At the end the 'shrew' doesn't 'correct' her ways to fit society's standards but rather the guy is the one who learns the faults of his ways, genuinely apologizes and changes himself for the better. Honestly one of the best adaptations of this play I've ever read or seen. It’s called The taming of the shrew if anyone wants to check it out.

[@playintheparis3388]

What's its name

[@eduardopantoja9115]

I actually want to know the name of the Webcomic

[@Claire18Hi]

* Frivolous Wife

[@aluk3]

The name is: "The taming of the shrew" I mentioned it at the end of the comment

[@enchantedstarlight9573]

@@aluk3 where can you read it? (preferably for free). thank you!

[@mitsiejc1077]

There's nothing wrong with a woman not wanting love or romance. It's caused many of us more pain and stress then anything, and pursuing success and a career we're passionate about is just as valid and fulfilling. Never let anyone shame you for being a "shrew".

[@tricksietalon2596]

I think that just means "doesn't take any crap and stands up for oneself".

[@kallias.3503]

Thank u because i am getting shamed of wanting to be independent and not having a husband and children

[@tricksietalon2596]

@@kallias.3503 It changes as you get older. In your 20s and 30s it's don't you want to? You still have time! In your 40s it becomes "you were the smart one" because you stuck to what you wanted while they conformed. Do YOUR life. They can't live it for you, though some will try.

[@madeleynecarat7420]

That's amazing I'm happy for you

[@Luanna801]

There are two crucial differences between this and the original play, which I think need to be discussed here. The first is that Petruchio isn't just a jerk, he's outright abusive to Kate. He physically abuses her, refuses to give her food and clothes, and gaslights her about reality. Granted, she's often shown physically assaulting him too, but at best that just makes the relationship mutually abusive. By contrast, Patrick agreeing to take money to ask Kat out is a jerk move, definitely, but their relationship itself completely lacks the abusive element. He's also held responsible for that initial wrongdoing and makes amends for it, while Petruchio is rewarded for everything he does and never has to apologize for anything (despite being guilty of far more than his modern counterpart). The second difference is that in the original play Kate doesn't simply fall in love, or become nicer, she's expected to be entirely submissive and obedient to her husband. Even if you read the final speech as tongue-in-cheek, Petruchio demanding blind (and indeed, outright irrational) obedience from her is an element of their relationship long before that. Now obviously, you couldn't play that plot exactly the same way in a modern rom-com, but I think the modern equivalent would have been Kat turning away from or at least softening her assertive feminism, which she never does. None of her beliefs or interests are treated as wrong, just sometimes her attitude. Even then, that attitude is treated more as an understandable result of how she herself has been treated, as we find out when we learn more of her backstory. 10 Things isn't just a 1-for-1 modern equivalent of Taming of the Shrew, those two changes make huge differences to the central relationship and the story's stance on gender roles. Maybe 10 Things isn't perfect, but I think they did a lot to create a modern version that's faithful to the original's basic plot while also improving the more sexist and troubling aspects.

[@prokkle]

There's a lot of downright cruelty in Taming of the Shrew. Very difficult to watch. 10 Things is a delight, because the characters move towards each other, it's not just one of them making all the accommodation to the other..

[@moniquegrace2123]

I agree with you in everything except that the relationship of the original play was mutually abusive. The guy was cruel beyond words and denied her basic things she needs to survive to the point she submits completely so no it wasn’t mutually abusive, he was a million times worst

[@inazuma2332]

And at the end of the day, katherine is violent for self defense and in the eyes of the law and social rules, she has absolute no powet and is isolated in petruchios home, constantly chaded, further decreasing her mental state

[@moviemoth4192]

I don’t think “pretty irresistible” even covers what that man was lol Forever swooning rip 😭

[@melodicazure]

I disagree. They don't soften up; they just opened up and showed a part of themselves you didn't know about before. I feel like certain people usually put up a wall or show a certain face in public. Then, we act quite differently when we are alone or trust someone.

[@yasminj1083]

I enjoyed Kat’s teacher’s inputs he was hilarious 😂

[@misspriss2482]

He was an ass. He was jealous of Kat and took his resentment out on her because she was born into privilege. I hated him.

[@arianneabdul9866]

@@misspriss2482 he called her out on her white ass feminism, he was right with everything he said

[@oooh19]

@@arianneabdul9866 he also called out Joey so he actually DID stick up for Kat

[@idbbb]

I also like how the movie made a point to note that Kate had been treated horribly in the past, so though that affected her relationships with people, she and Patrick still find love in each other. I also like how they portray being an older sister. I love this movie so much

[@maggiemcfly5267]

Oh my favorite teenage movie!! Kat was such an inspiration when I was a kid, now I feel like I don't live up to her LMAO

[@trinaq]

Me too, Kat was a feminist icon WAY before the concept was mainstream, and she taught me to stand by my morals, and not to give into peer pressure "just because everyone else was doing it." 💖😘

[@maggiemcfly5267]

@@trinaq right?! I still wanna be more like her

[@jjba3571]

Same for me, in an ocean of romcom where the woman was all washy washy she was independent and not afraid to say it out loud

[@inazuma2332]

I hate that ppl expect feminist characters to be 1000% perfect saint/genius,flawless or sassy. Some char can be a feminist and still have flaws in other points of her or his worldview. Its actually nice to have another minority challenge to expand their worldviewin feminism, maybe becoming more inclusive to trans/poc/etc. Problem isss is that mostly men, specially cishet white conservative men, tend to take those challenges as a 'haha women get humbled' moment or 'see? Feminism is shit, yall arejust exageratting' or dismissing any other feminist values the character has, laughing as minorities fight each other, further gaslighting us to think were dramatic/its just a joke/not that deep/etc.

[@moonie3866]

I wish they did more modern and humor based adaptions of classics like 10 Things I Hate About You and Clueless

[@thesecondYouTube]

What is obvious about Patrick is how much he wants to love, show physical affection and make grand gestures. I wish the film addressed his family life more and his lack of structure and if he only spent the first ten years of his life with his mother because she died or abandoned him like Kat's mom did. Also, I liked the relationship of Patrick and his friend with the mohawk. They both put up a scary front for the whole school because underneath they are really sweet boys struggling to cope with high school and having to deal with people's bullshit.

[@thesecondYouTube]

Also (pretending it's real life) it's interesting that Patrick and his friend were sitting watching the soccer practice anyway. I wonder if it's because he noticed her, wanted her and the universe made it so that he got paid and got information about Kat to make his life easier.

[@markooms2923]

never been a fan of rom-coms on a whole and probably never will be, and yet 10 things i hate about you will always be one of my favorite movies. great analysis. Kat's story is definitely one of her and Patrick finding balance in themselves through their growing relationship (and relationship with others), challenging the rough aspects of themselves and not sacrificing any of the good. The english teacher is essential with balancing things out. the film focuses on white upper middle class suburbia, while reminding us that there is still a lot more out there. Always hoped that one day the two of them would team up and get some Toni Morrison taught in class.

[@misspriss2482]

Except he insults and punishes her because she's white upper middle class. Kat can't help where she was born and she never came off as needing to be "reminded" of her status. Her mother was dead; her having money didn't fix that.

[@Luanna801]

10:21 Much Ado About Nothing ABSOLUTELY does not deserve to be given as a negative example here. Nothing about Beatrice is "softened" that isn't equally softened in Benedick (and basically just boils down to them admitting they actually care about each other). They keep bantering and giving as good as they get with each other even after they get together, it's just in good fun now instead of genuinely hurtful. And Beatrice keeps being as strong and witty and determined as ever. Heck, she makes a speech about how she wants to eat Claudio's heart for how he hurt her cousin *after* getting together with Benedick! Not exactly tame and docile, is she?

[@sophiamikell7490]

Yep. They both were an awesome couple that loved each other.

[@katebuckman6943]

Yeah, until the very end when Benedick says 'Peace, I'll stop your mouth', kisses her, and then Beatrice has no lines for the rest of the play while Benedick does. It's a comparable ending to Measure for Measure, where a woman's silence is interpreted as mute acceptance of a statement that she'll marry someone. Also, I think the line you're referring to where she wants to eat Claudio's heart is 'O God, that I were a man! I would eat his heart in the marketplace.' She's entirely aware of gender roles when she says that, and knows it's an empty wish. Love the play, but it's not as straightforward as we want it to be.

[@MariaLuisa-le1rf]

everything about this movie is just so perfect, my all time fav

[@tracyroweauthor]

As a language coach for a production of Shrew, I translated the text to modern English. In order to do that I had to study a lot of essays on the play. When you do that, you find out that Shakespeare wrote on MANY levels and lines often had more than one meaning--sometimes as many as FOUR meanings in a single word! And yes, the ending speech is meant to be ironic, as Kate and Petruchio are actually equals who have a happy marriage as opposed to the other women who married for the wrong reasons.

[@RustySpoons6490]

I read the title as: _”Unattainable Woman”_ - time for an eye appointment.

[@MichaelKerr71]

rusty spoons picked up with salad fingers

[@lh9591]

I like it when the red water comes out

[@SR77736]

Me too

[@Hero574]

Wtf me too

[@magnolialilly790]

“Deliver us from Eva” is another good Example of the taming of the shrew trope.

[@Forgefaerie]

I love that movie, its highly under appreciated. in part because she is not really tamed at all - she just softens and allows her sisters to do their own thing, make their own choices and stops trying to overprotect them from making their own mistakes and learning from them. while Ray is the one who genuinely grows and matures because that is what it takes for him to be able to actualy have a relationship with Eva.

[@magnolialilly790]

ForgedFaerie yes, it’s subversion.

[@Forgefaerie]

@@magnolialilly790 it really is. I always loved it that learning to let go of her protectiveness and seeing her sisters as equals is what allows her to take the career opportunity she wanted, but was reluctant to take because she felt like she needed to be there for her sisters at all time, as if she was still raising them. she finally gets to soar and her romance only builds her up further. it doesn't diminish her, it doesn't narrow her world - it expands it and its just so great!.

[@angelajohnsonkeys4199]

Also starring Gabrielle Union, like 10 Things I Hate About You

[@caleb282]

I like the idea that the original is actually satire, it makes sense for Kate's character

[@legzfalloffgirl5148]

That was my take on it too😻😻

[@gabbiemedeiros1790]

There's a k-drama called "The beauty inside". The entire plot itself is subversive and peculiar, but one of a kind point is the second lead couple. They have a role reverse dynamic and the execution is delicate and well done.

[@justanartdoof3965]

This video made me realize that one of my closest friends is literally the "shrew" and my entire friend group loves her for it. She always has a new perspective and ideas compared to the rest of us. Shes amazing.

[@may.k_me]

Ooh!!! I like that you added the fox and Little Prince's dialogue as a comparison on taming That's my favorite dialogue in the book I also really like that you guys brought up the dialogue at the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's about being a wild thing and not belonging to anyone. A call back to Robin from HIMYM

[@anne12876]

The word use in the original French version of the Little Prince conveys a different meaning than the word "tame" in the English version. St-Exupéry uses the word "apprivoiser" which is different from "dompter". "Dompter" normally translates "to tame", in the sense of making a wild animal docile or unthreatening or to conquer someone or something. "Apprivoiser" means to get to know someone or something or to become familiar with someone or something, which is more suited in this situation.

[@LemonCurry.]

since you're revisiting 90's rom coms, could you consider analysing the movie "she's the man"?

[@elleyeah746]

Lemon Curry YES YES YES

[@greatgownsbeautifulgowns]

@Rebecca Woolf I remember that era of every teen movie being either a straight up Shakespeare remake, or being made based along the lines of a Shakespeare play.

[@isaacgray2909]

@@greatgownsbeautifulgowns Most of the 90s-2000s rom-com movies were modern adaptation of classics actually. Clueless-Emma, Cruel Intentions-Dangerous Liasions, O-Othello, Romeo + Juliet, etc.

[@greatgownsbeautifulgowns]

@@isaacgray2909 I knew about Cruel Intentions and O, but I never knew that Clueless was based on Emma.

[@omniomelet1472]

Amélie Poulain's bob even the rom coms today are all Shakespeare remakes or inspired by Shakespeare.

[@may.k_me]

Was Catherine's final monologue truly sarcastic? I didn't read it that way But in 10 Things I did think that Kat was more on equal footing with Heath Ledger

[@joyaautrey2168]

There's nothing wrong with choosing goals that don't include romance.

[@monabohamad2242]

for some reason that somehow feels like saying romance is bad

[@joyaautrey2168]

@@monabohamad2242 It's just not for everyone. Some people are unfulfilled without romance in their lives. In my case, my life has never been my own. I was the property of my parents who were extremely abusive. I was passed around like a loose joint and conditioned to believe that men are entitled to sex with women and that saying no to your husband is crime. Almost every romantic relationship I have been in, it was the same. I had very little say in what happened to my money, time or body. If my last husband had shot me, my father would have seen that as property damage and my mother would capitalize on my death for sympathy from friends and neighbors. It doesn't appeal to me, anymore.

[@ai_dc]

love this channel. You guys should do a video on the trope that women who don't want kids will just change their mind if someone "loves them enough" (Bernadette and Penny in The Big Bang Theory or Rebecca in This is Us)

[@toomuchinformation]

Talking about "This Is Us..." It's interesting how Kate and Toby's son becomes a successful musician, in the way his mother and grandmother weren't able to.

[@ARC--eh5zt]

I never thought that kat was the one being tamed, like this interpretation I always saw it as meeting her equal, she fell in love with someone that was also ostracized, and who loved her personality regardless of what everyone else said about her. In that sense, Patrick was kind of tamed as he recognised how society's impression of Kat was wrong and misogynistic. Also because of the stark contrast of how Petruchio treated Katerina, because Petruchio was repeatedly cruel to her so that when he was finally nice to her she would become submissive and dote on him, while Patrick (even though at first his actions weren't genuine) tried to learn about her interests and most of the time was pretty kind to her

[@urietrench7536]

I love how the video clips used in The Take videos get richer and richer as they keep analysing new shows and tropes. Keep it up!

[@Thekawaiiasian101vid]

We watched this movie in class after reading The Taming of The Shrew and I immediately fell in love with Kat. She's the reason why I started listening to Bikini Kill

[@may.k_me]

I still love 10 Things I Hate About You When I was younger and in school I really liked Taming of the Shrew As an adult however, I find Taming of the Shrew extremely disturbing But IMO 10 Things I Hate About You is arguably far less horrible than the original play and how it treats the character Catherine. I think it's a really good adaptation because it modernized and improved on the original

[@djervalevy9784]

There are ways to be independent and opinionated without being condescending and holier than thou. People seem to forget that.

[@saraa.4295]

True..in som way it's a trope, in other way i think it is a consequence..most opinionated, smart and independend characters are put among shallow followers, probably for the sake of contrast (in movies that is) so a bit condesendence i get comes kinda naturally

[@SR77736]

I agree. A woman can be strong and independent and be respectful.

[@saraa.4295]

@@SR77736 though in the case of movies like 10 things i hate about you, there are surrounded of people undeserving of respect..

[@jacobodom8401]

@@saraa.4295 So basic decency is asking too much?

[@Tinkerbe11]

Absolutely true! I hate it when feminist women or women who are independent and speak their minds are portraiyed as rude bitches.

[@selina5598]

This version of the story works so much better than overboard from 1987. That was a man taking advantage of a woman with a head injury, regardless of how nasty she was. This film is 10 times better. If we are to take this 'ironic' take on the ending, it reminds me of the old phrase 'the man is the head and the woman is the neck and can turn him anyway she pleases.' Which I can't stand, coming from a culture that still endorses it. Kat and Patrick don't need to be tamed nor do they need to submit to another person to get the best out of life. It's all about the right match and it doesn't contradict their independence

[@annaconigliaro2907]

I like Kat because she shows people that the perfect match loves you for you.

[@imaginarytoon1]

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[@idbbb]

imaginarytoon1 i like this idea!

[@witchplease9695]

It's been proven that unmarried women live longer, healthier, happier lives. Meanwhile, single and unmarried men are more likely to be miserable and lonely (just look at all the incels). Women don't need to be "tamed" for fulfillment, but apparently, men do.

[@Just999Me]

What studies are you referencing?

[@jaimicottrill2831]

Yes, that’s true.

[@TruffleSeeker54]

I can't speak for others, but I know I won't be fully happy without a man in my life. I want a boyfriend I can rely on. I've been single for over a year and I miss having a romantic human connection.

[@Hoveai]

It ain't that simple. For example, many male inventors and scientists such as Nikola Tesla, Issac Newton, had women lining up for them but chose to remain single putting their work as priority. Many died in their 80s and over. Nikola Tesla had a beautiful high class lady sending him letters obsessively yet he didn't bite on. He died aged 86. His research made him more happy than any woman could. Same for Isaac Newton. There are those men that indeed put their passion as higher priority over any sort of romance. A other thing is that there are indeed women that want that family lifestyle and to have kids. Basically group mentality has a limited range. After a point you'll find individuals among all groups that don't fit the mould. That's reality.

[@madeleynecarat7420]

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[@dianatorralbo7690]

That's one of my mom's favourite movies because we love how Kat and Patrick live outside the box and have fun together.

[@ashwhydoyoucare7927]

I love this so much, I grew up looking up to Kat I had never related to a character more. Watching this video made me see all the negative things people pointed out about me when I was younger that were "not normal" or not being a "good girl" weren't true and I am strong and independent, I can stand my ground and back my beliefs without "being too much".

[@pango4425]

Just make sure it doesn't become too much, not for a woman specifically but for anyone. There are people who will abandon all social graces, who believe that common decency is just a way to keep women in line. There's a difference between not being stereotypically polite and just being plain toxic. Kat rode that line fairly well but it can definitely be crossed. But ya u go girl.

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

Facts!!!

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

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[@xxshadowhunter1068]

@@pango4425but I feel as though people hate on women like kat for not being submissive even though she wasn’t toxic, she got accused of that because people despised her always standing her ground and never compromising her morals just to fit in.

[@RoshniS]

One thing I never realized is that people still put a glass ceiling over women's heads in real life too. This belief that you can either have a successful career life OR have a happy love life, however both cannot exist. It is quite infuriating

[@rachel3760]

Kay doesn't soften her edges because of Patrick. She does it for her sister, she becomes a (slightly) nicer and more empathic person but only for her little sister. I've always thought the real "love" in this movie was between Kat and her sister. She doesn't go to prom for Patrick, she goes for her sister. She doesn't go to the party for Patrick, she goes for her sister. Patrick was just a catalyst that made Kat become a better sister.

[@ClipsByLaura]

In 'The Proposal', I'd argue she softens up not just because of a man's love, but more by finding a loving and caring family, a feeling of home she hasn't had in a long time. She felt isolated and hid in her work, now the hiding is over. I think that's why it's such a good movie.

[@girlysword]

I love this movie, I also love the Shakespeare Retold BBC adaptation of Taming of the Shrew. In that version Katherine knows that the marriage is one of convenience and in her speech at the end she makes it clear that spousal submission goes both ways.

[@bobthesquirrel666]

Loved that series! My favourite was Much Ado About Nothing

[@skylight_gameuse]

The movie was written by two female screenwriters who also wrote Legally Blonde, Ella Enchanted and She's the man, some of the few most iconic feminist movies of the 1900-2000's. The conclusion, just like Shakespeare's, is probably ironic because in both times, it was bad to scream out loud you're feminist, even 5 years ago most of people would still label feminists like 'hystericals' and all. Even if they wanted a more explicit ending, the producers/pub house wouldn't have accepted it, but the spirit of the stories truly show a feminist way of thinking. It's subtle so it can pass the censorship.

[@emilymatthews2990]

I try to capture that in my writing. Showcase my feminism but subtly so the patriarchy doesn’t censor it

[@harusicornelio5334]

Is this the first video of a serie about all the characters of 10 thinhs I hate about you? 'Cause I'm down for it!!

[@nurpeachmusic]

I need to watch this again. I didn't even finish it the first time.

[@123j109]

my love for Heath Ledger began here

[@Sarina460]

mine too! May he rest in peace.

[@YasaminRajabloo]

I think "finding someone that loves and accepts you the way you are"is a much better way to phrase it than being "tamed".the little prince anology was flawed for Kat and Patrick's relationship.

[@fourcatsandagarden]

....Taming of the Shrew is 'Baby it's Cold Outside' the play. Or, rather, I suppose Baby It's Cold Outside is Taming of the Shrew, the song. Depending on your reading of it and, more importantly, the way the roles are performed, it can either be abhorrently misogynistic, or a playful winknudgenod between those performing at the expense of those who don't get it.

[@misspriss2482]

Baby It's Cold Outside gets a bad rap. If you listen carefully to the song, all of the reasons that the females gives for not staying over pertains to her reputation and her parents. Premarital sex was taboo; good girls waited. The man knows that she wants to stay so he gives her excuses to stay over so that she can indulge her libido without feeling "cheap".

[@vacaspen5038]

Doesn't bring you down a notch and to live completely for somebody else. Love compliments what you're already doing. Gives you a companion to keep going the direction you are we going in or take it to the next level.

[@KateKatastrophe]

He did use the money to get her that guitar she always wanted. It's not like he spent it on himself and she was like "OK it's fine"

[@review-elladaville1233]

Such an iconic movie!!! and heath ledger as patrick verona is just *chef's kiss*

[@deannas2778]

I think they went in as equals. They were both angry and felt like misfits. They completed each other.

[@AngieCarr]

10 Things and She’s All That, are easily some of the most influential films of the 90’s. Their takes on their older sibling literary works (Taming of the Shrew and Pygmalion) but with a modern spin are some of the most cinematically enjoyable and please experiences of the 90’s any age can appreciate.

[@cryptoenthusiast724]

''The Take'' you inspired us to create our KZbin Channel!🙏

[@poeticxdrama]

I'd kill for another Buffy Take. Specifically, I've always been facinated by characters like Giles and the importance of "The Mentor" charcter in media. Not necessarily a father figure, but a steadfast teacher.

[@ainabend4943]

I am still waiting for the earth and air personalities from avatar

[@marwaboud7656]

This make me soooo angry ... i think that every normal humanbeing want to love and be loved it's mother nature's will , but making it the ultimate goal for every woman , makes me want to hate the idea of love and having a familly .

[@iceberg4736]

Interesting that Gabrielle Union was in this film and then later had her own angry woman story in "Deliver Us From Eva" with LL Cool J.

[@alma.libera5254]

Funnily enough, Julia Styles played a character, who opts for marriage instead of going to law school in "Mona Lisa's Smile".

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

That’s so funny that she plays such contrasting roles, but both are choices they made

[@daniellesmith7515]

10 Things was always my favorite rom-com and as I grew up I became increasingly disappointed that more weren't like it.

[@zoey__m]

I love the fact that my favourite 90s comedies are based on important pieces of literature, written ages ago. In that way you understand the core of the work with the standards of your own era, while appreciating the original.

[@cocolinabt]

Actually I really love that ending and I see nothing problematic in it at all. Pat made a mistake by taking the money. Kat was rightfully angry when she found out. Pat also started to really like Kat once he got to know her and actually fell in love with her. Just because he did something stupid in the beginning doesn't mean she has to "hate" him. He apologized with a thoughtful gift and she forgave hime because she also accepted that people make mistakes but are not inherently "bad" for that. It actually makes for a very grown up ending and that's what I like about it. They both have grown, accept each others flaws and also are good for each other, softening down a bit. And yes I do thing she's grown and not "giving anything up". Part of growing up is learning how and when to give your opinion, when to soften down and when to take other's feelings into account. It does not mean that you're broken, it means that you're humble and see other people's view as well also seeing when you might have been a bit extreme and tone it down a bit. Julia played that very well.

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

Agreed. I liked the ending, it showed the maturity between them and softening for each other. Very cute

[@pterocardio]

i hope you make a video on bianca as well, specifically on the evolution of her character through the various adaptations of the source material. cause in the 10 things film they started to show that she has a lot more substance than people perceive her to have (they hint at this when it's shown how great she is at french, and also show it in the later half of the movie at her outburst at kat when kat tells her about her past with joey - which revealed so much of bianca's thought process, and when she punches joey.) and in the show they take it even further by showing how bianca's popularity is calculated, not handed out, and they even humanize joey's character as well.

[@penelope3926]

Why has falling in love become conflated with "giving up your power" in current feminist doctrine? It's so short-sighted. Kat's transformation is the whole point of the movie! It is a learning experience that shows her that there's still beauty, love and kindness in the world, and that she- despite her loner projections- wants love and is deserving of it. See, despite what the feminists think, the movie is not showing her early, cynical views as worthwhile, feminist values that are conducive to wellbeing. Rather, it is showing that they were a painful symptom of her relationship with her father and sister, which made her view the world with a cold, cynical eye as she was the 'protector' of her younger, more naive sister. It is setting up the dichotomy between naivety and cynicism, softness and anger. But her transformation shows that she can oscillate between these two positions, which makes her happy in the way of love, but also retains her independence and wit etc. Thus, the movie intends to show us that being alone does not always mean being happy/powerful!

[@penelope3926]

Nic haha aw we need a heath ledger to appear 😹

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

This is why this movie is an absolute masterpiece

[@littlemouse91019]

This concept of finding someone and falling in love always brings me back to quotes from the little prince especially the one about the Fox mentioned. :)

[@Tinymoezzy]

Dive into the taming of her sister Bianca, she was almost lured in a negative way to "the dark side" but in the end showed her strength. Perhaps she was a shrew in her own way. Yes she fit social standards of beauty and how to behave, but she also didn't succumb to them out of pressure. It was just who she was already.

[@alyssapinon9670]

Plus the scene of her opening a can of whoop ass on Joey for hurting her and her loved ones while wearing a cute tutu shows that you can be feminine and strong.

[@andreasamardzija1496]

Katerina and Petruchio's dialogue is so amazing in the play, they seem like greater equals and better partners than almost any in classic Lit

[@evildoesnotsleep-x2b]

kat is anapologetic and genuine and that's why we still love her

[@Liimiinaa]

Kat was my hero growing up. She didn't play nice to make people around her feel more comfortable.

[@starlight8554]

Why are people mad at who Kat is ;/ there’s a million male characters who are so much more grating and straight up rude but they’re all just accepted.

[@inazuma2332]

I hate that ppl expect feminist characters to be 1000% perfect saint/genius,flawless or sassy. Some char can be a feminist and still have flaws in other points of her or his worldview. Its actually nice to have another minority challenge to expand their worldviewin feminism, maybe becoming more inclusive to trans/poc/etc. Problem isss is that mostly men, specially cishet white conservative men, tend to take those challenges as a 'haha women get humbled' moment or 'see? Feminism is shit, yall arejust exageratting' or dismissing any other feminist values the character has, laughing as minorities fight each other, further gaslighting us to think were dramatic/its just a joke/not that deep/etc.smth smh like that.

[@xxshadowhunter1068]

I love kat’s character sm. she is so badass. I hate that they don’t let her have flaws. She’s human bro a character isn’t interesting without flaws. She speaks her mind and doesn’t care what others think, she is hated for it, but she doesn’t care. I love her character. It calms me to feel I resonate with her

[@MinimAlex]

Hi just to tell you that the first text of Saint exupéry the author of the little prince is in french and the verb used in the original text isn't actually the litteral translation tamed "dresser" and is instead "apprivoiser" and the sense of the verb is way more link to gaining the trust of the wild animal than obtaining "dominance" over it.

[@britt01]

I still love Kat, I was a preteen when the movie came out and now I'm in my 30s, I still love her.

[@journeythrough3087]

Top 3 favorite movies for me, 10 Things stood out to me as a teen and now for the sophisticated language that the teens used in dialogue compared to other films around that time. I thought The Take would touch on Kat’s personal source for her anger which ironically had to do in part with her “ex” Joey and possible mother wounds.