10 Things That Atheists Are Just Tired Of Hearing

[@svenleeuwen]

Let's be real here, these arguments aren't for convincing atheïsts, it's for believers to keep convincing themselves.

[@alexandergreen7230]

This!!

[@brucebaker810]

@@svenleeuwen Yup. Just strong enough for "Wow. That'd sure convince me if I didn't already know it's True."

[@lisaspikes4291]

Bingo!

[@gear24x]

As a former self-proclaimed apologist, I approve of this message.

[@louseveryann2181]

DING DING DING!

[@nrellis666]

I find being told "you're only atheist because you want to sin" by someone who believes their sins are forgiven because they believe in one specific imaginary being incredibly annoying

[@davidwise1302]

Actually, they're only Christians because they want to sin. If they do wrong, then all they have to do is ask "Jesus" for forgiveness which they always receive (if your invisible friend refuses to forgive you, then you have very serious problems). For that matter, they anticipate that they will inevitably "stumble", so they depend on repeated forgiveness; they literally have no motivation to try to do better. And if they wrong someone, no matter how grievously, they just ask Jesus for forgiveness and everything's good now, except they never ever make any effort to make things right with whomever they had wronged (I actually caught two creationists laughing at how much they had wronged an opponent, one saying, "I'm going to have to really pray for forgiveness for that one!", but with never a thought of any kind of apology to that person). In sharp contrast, an atheist will be motivated to try to do better and to try to right his wrongs.

[@paulglennie1991]

They can't see or understand "sin" is a made up concept to control people with fear. It's like a parent saying to a kid I'd you don't eat your veg thiers no pudding.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

and they go right on committing the same sins over and over and think their god will be appeased with "sorry" every time. LOL.

[@UTU49]

I heard some of these "sin" discussions recently, and I thought to myself that sinning sounds pretty good. Sinning sounds REALLY fun! So, I have become a Christian so that I can sin with impunity... and so I am now as happy as clam. Become a Christian!! So that you can sin.

[@bestbehave]

@@margaretjohnson6259they’re god _is_ appeased by “sorry” every time. Cos that’s the way they made it up….

[@TheLithp]

"Your TV isn't broken." "I don't have a TV." "Impossible! Everyone must have a TV! How do you spend your time?" "I go hiking." "Hiking is your TV!"

[@steveb0503]

Wanted to up-vote this comment - but the "thumbs up" count is at 42, and you just CAN'T mess with that...

[@FullFrontalNerdity-e3z]

There's a T shirt there. "Hiking is my TV".

[@drzaius844]

@@FullFrontalNerdity-e3zmotorcycling is my TV

[@FullFrontalNerdity-e3z]

@drzaius844 Mine used to be. I miss it.

[@patchwurk6652]

@Tımelook-z8l And yet you can't prove this existence in any respect. Back to your place of worship where you can make yourself feel special for accepting your existence amounts to being nothing but "Allah's" puppet.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

Earlier this evening, I had a lady tell me that southerners are less racist because they're more religious and do what the bible says. I couldn't get into a discussion about it because my parents were there, but it was all I could do to keep a straight face.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

i'd say in those moments its fair to mimic the tone of voice and agree with with how very liberal/moral the kkk was/is

[@loki2240]

You should've just asked them why the Southern Baptist Convention was formed. For those who don't know, it was because the Baptist Church didn't agree that Baptist religious leaders could enslave people and still be religious leaders in the Baptist Church. So, a slavery-supporting Southern faction split off from the Baptist Church.

[@jamesparson]

You are a strong person

[@loki2240]

@@mirandarensberger6919- You should've just asked her why the Southern Baptist Convention was formed.

[@thedave1771]

😂

[@cobaltblue1975]

My position has always been. “You don’t get to make up some shit and then put the responsibility on me to prove it true or false. No. I refuse to participate in that game. Bring provable facts or it is on you to reevaluate your beliefs.”

[@Heathcoatman]

"Why do you care what other's believe?" Simple, because what other's believe is being used as a reason to oppress other people. As justification for controlling others. Counter-question: why do you need others to adhere to your beliefs?

[@pencilpauli9442]

Apologist- All things must have a cause. Me- So what caused God. Apologist- Nothing caused God. Me- God must be no thing if he didn't have a cause, according to what you originally said.

[@whyarealltaken]

Only reason they say God must not have a cause is because if it did, there would be infinite regression. Something logically has to be the first step of causality, and they say it must be God. That's pretty much as far as I remember.

[@jeffreyjdesir]

@@whyarealltaken The problem is we know at the quantum level that information can be RETROACTIVE or even NON-CAUSAL, there's genuine randomness in Reality that doesn't allow arm-chair philosophy and metaphysics to penetrate its inner-workings. This is the job of science and its sad people rather take short cuts...

[@Anonymous247n]

Of course he is no thing, he is god. He is the ONE AND ONLY thing which in fact is special and does not need a cause itself. Because it is the first cause. Special pleading? Well isn't god supposed to be special? Let's face it this argument is NEVER going away.

[@jeffreyjdesir]

@ lol are you joking 🙃

[@AmEv7fam]

​@@Anonymous247n I can't tell if you're joking or not; you're literally appealing to special pleading. Before you insist that God is more powerful than logic: can God create a rock so heavy, even he cannot lift it?

[@myanbeach]

When theists start quoting Bible verses. Atheists don’t give a shit what that immoral, divisive, hypocritical book says. We lose immediate respect for your argument. Theists …. “stop using it!”

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I agree. Its pathetic. I quote some other books back at them.

[@craigkelly4278]

I agree that why I don't force my beliefs or behaviour on others. Not all Believers are like the ones on this channel

[@kinglyzard]

I roll my eyes at them and bid them a "majickly enchanted day"

[@18471902]

No. 9 at 13:34 "What if I [an atheist] am wrong?" Here is what I, as an atheist, have to say to that: If there is a god in the christian concept, then that god is all knowing. So what am I supposed to do? Should I start attending church regularly, giving my money and possessions to the church, pray regularly, read the Bible, witness, and do all the things christians normally do--all the time just going through the motions and in my mind not believing in any of it? God knows I am simply putting on a charade, so am I any better off?

[@matttiel619]

That was well articulated.

[@discontinuedmodel232]

exactly! I didn't choose my brain-wiring. Our brain wiring determines what type of music we like/who we fall in love with/what we find funny & laugh at and so forth - to include whether or not we are convinced in the existence of the god/gods we are exposed to over the course of our lives.

[@RePlayQ]

God shoulda known I hate reading (and that most people couldn’t read until recently) before using poetry and literature to pass down his words.

[@discontinuedmodel232]

@@RePlayQ Great comment - that makes a lot of sense! Using poetry and parables (which are not intended to be taken literally anyway) are the worst ways to convey critical information - such as how to avoid eternal torment for example - 😨because they are by design going to be adapted by different people with various agendas and end up morphing into something with a completely different intent & meaning over time. If people in the year 2024 CE can't communicate with any semblance of accuracy & reliability despite being literate and having access to advanced technology, what are the odds that anything passed along by a mostly illiterate society can be trusted? The odds are less than zero, if that is even possible.

[@julietfischer5056]

Not to mention all the other religions out there. Suppose the Christian is wrong? Or maybe, if there is a God, it just doesn't care. It set the universe in motion and the rest is up to us.

[@elisawhitman8526]

I had the Number Five recently!😂 Him: “Why do you care if other people believe in God?” Me: “Why do you care that I don’t believe in God?” Him: “I don’t.” Me: “That’s because my lack of belief doesn’t affect you, whereas other people believing in God does affect me and millions of others.” …I then had to explain all of the ways in which Christian beliefs have been used to justify wars, discrimination, prejudice, slavery, oppression, and violative laws.

[@ZymonAaronn]

It's called apologetics because their arguments are sorry excuses.

[@julietfischer5056]

Apologias are defenses. Before the word became a synonym for 'I'm sorry I did/said this or that' it meant a defense of one's position, that included explanations (not justifications or excuses). But when they don't bring any new arguments to their position, they do sound like a bunch of people who can't defend their proposition.

[@ZymonAaronn]

@@julietfischer5056 At first I thought you were an apologetics apologist. A meta-apologist. Thanks for the clarification. LOL.

[@collier6794]

We need more of this format of videos This was great. ❤

[@USS_Sentinel]

Forrest has a voice for audiobook work.

[@jackpaul3315]

@@USS_Sentinel he has a face fit for radio

[@EdithBromfeld]

But the reasoning skills of a watermelon

[@Svnipni]

Many of the hosts do imo. I wouldn't mind an audiobook read by limey or jmike

[@jackwhitbread4583]

That's fkn rude. Dont be an ah​@jackpaul3315

[@mr.brightmarkm]

Forrest is Bestgirl

[@jackcleveland1175]

Morality is practical. It makes life better for everyone. No god needed.

[@StanSwan]

I hate when a theist posts something like "the bible is historical and the word of god". Then you challenge this and people pile on asking why you are not being respectful of the posters views and that you a rude jerk. I am not the one bringing up religion in a town forum?

[@Leith_Crowther]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen. I mean, I’ve seen people preaching their religion in wildly inappropriate times and places, but I’ve never seen anyone upset with an atheist pushing back on them. I don’t spend any time in primarily-theist spaces, though.

[@mattjindrak]

​@Leith_Crowther it happens a lot. People love to say you can't criticize their beliefs. They get special treatment for some dumb reason

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

John 14:21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him. The way people can know Jesus and the Bible are true is repentece of sin and receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Once you obey the gospel, you start to be renewed by the Holy Spirit, giving you ultimate proof the Bible is true when your heart is transformed.

[@StanSwan]

@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m The bible is a work of fiction.

[@shrews12001]

​@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m no, be quiet

[@anthonymitchell9793]

As soon as I saw the title I thought of the one I hate the most and it ended up being two of the Top 10. "You actually believe in God but you hate him because you love to sin". What really drives me nuts is when a theist drops an Argument that I've heard dozens and dozens of times and they act as if they've hit me with a "gotcha" moment.

[@shrews12001]

@@anthonymitchell9793 "God doesn't exist. Sin doesn't exist. Neither of them mean anything to me. But I am starting to hate you and the system that failed to raise you properly."

[@anthonymitchell9793]

@shrews12001 And how was i not raised properly?

[@shrews12001]

@@anthonymitchell9793 no, the person saying to you "You actually believe..." I put it in quotations as it was a response to what was being said by the third party. That may not have been clear. My fault.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

For me it's the freewill bullshit, I'm so tired of hearing it and I genuinely don't believe anyone has freewill. It's a pile of horseshit

[@hannibalbarca1147]

The entire Christian religion revolves around absolving sin. That's why I love to spin it and say you believe in a God so he can forgive the sins you love to have forgiven.

[@chrisgraham2904]

The frustration is that so many theist claims have been deconstructed and debunked over and over and over for decades. Most religious scholars are well aware of the faults, errors and proven fallacies of their religion. However, every Sunday morning, some Priest, Rabbi, Minister, or Preacher stands at the pulpit in front of their congregation and makes the same false claims over and over and over.

[@damonkenny3444]

Most atheist debunkings are totally irrelevant to the argument. Atheists don’t actually refute anything, they will just refuse to accept what is being argued. For example, atheists will provide asinine pre-scripted responses for Fine Tuning- Anthropic Reasoning, like “the puddle analogy” which doesn’t disprove Fine Tuning, but gives them an excuse to refuse to accept it, with some bogus hypotheticals, whilst never invalidating the logic.

[@justanotheropinion5832]

Equally frustrating is the consequences of that practice. The misrepresentation and villanization of truth/science is a detriment to humanity.

[@Qzopr1]

Exposing the theists and their fallacies is essential. Even thou these callers will seldom entertain the critique, these conversations do wonders for the audience. Lots of viewers will see themselves reflected in the caller and will see the errors in their logic.

[@pekka_lover_69]

​@@damonkenny3444if you are being truthful and not just trying to take a cheap shot, I apologize that is your experience with atheists. I am atheist and If you want to gave an actual debate about the validity of religion, i am happy to give my rebuttle to any claims you wish to make.

[@roskiart8750]

@@pekka_lover_69 He ain't. He's a troll who willfully lies constantly

[@craigkelly4278]

You don't need God to be moral in fact having no God is likely to make you more moral.

[@guytheincognito4186]

Having a God would make one much less moral because you have a handy excuse for anything you want to inflict on others and a handy excuse to forgive yourself without ever having to face those you’ve wronged or do anything to correct your wrongful actions.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

As a European, hearing an American lecture me about how oppressive socialist governments are is.....tiresome.

[@ari1234a]

Hear hear !!!

[@louseveryann2181]

Americans are mostly scared children who fear what they don't understand: the rest of the world.

[@flyguyry1]

As an american, im so tired of it too

[@Robin3615]

He could have come up with a much better example but these were clips from shows and I have no idea about context. You have to admit, the dad jokes were pretty horrible. LMAO

[@maxine2798]

Don’t worry, you’ll have the last laugh because we live longer due to our superior health system. (Plus proper gun control, holidays, food etc)

[@Yayatv]

I was told that as a black woman it was actually impossible for me to be Atheist. And that I was following a fad. Smh

[@katamas832]

That's weird. Sorry that that has happened to you

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@D-1-V-A BFD. WFC?

[@minaashido518]

What? Is there a stereotype about black women being religious? I’ve heard stereotypes of white girls believing in astrology and spiritual crap but never black women.

[@Johnboy33545]

What fallacy(s) did they use? Was it gender, race or both? It's a fad I've been following for 76+ years.Before my mother and various preachers started indoctrinating me my daycare provider, aka Grampy read and taught me to read. The classic stories from Grimm and Aesop. We listened, pre tv, to ball games while he kept the box scores. He would have liked you.

[@Yayatv]

@Johnboy33545 It was both. I'm sure I would have liked him as well. 😊

[@Mr_Porter]

Excellent video. Honestly, I'm soooo tired of apologetics in general. Words don't mean words, you're reading out of context, blah blah blah prove me wrong. I don't know how you guys deal with callers who do this week after week. P. S. The book club joke made me laugh. I've never heard that one before.

[@General_Idea]

“I used to be an atheist just like you . . .”😖

[@ojrmk1]

They may have been Atheist, but they were never a Skeptic.

[@heidihaw8119]

I feel like when they say they “used to be an atheist”, what they really mean is “I wasn’t always an apologist”

[@aegisgfx]

​@@ojrmk1they weren't that, either

[@tiborpurzsas2136]

Not like me that's for sure.

[@shrews12001]

@@General_Idea no one on this earth has ever, EVER gone from being an atheist to being a theist. Not. Ever.

[@geoffmower8729]

When I hear the no atheists in fox holes it makes my blood boil. My dad and his three brothers were atheists and they were in the British 8th army fighting Rommel in the desert in WW2. My dad came home his three brothers didn't. If there is no atheists in fox holes then there are no theists in the emergency department!

[@canderson5098]

There are no atheists in prison.

[@Seticzech]

@@canderson5098 Really? 😀

[@Seticzech]

"When I hear the no atheists in fox holes" That's pure lie. Theists lie a lot, they *have to lie,* without lies there will be no religion.

[@_Somsnosa_]

They are basically admitting that religion is fear-based and uses fear, threats of torture and mental abuse to keep people in their cult

[@canderson5098]

​@@Seticzechthere might be a few but they aren't going to reveal that to the parole board.

[@ordoveritas]

I missed the one when religious say atheism is a religion.

[@brucebaker810]

Or the faith-users say we're using faith.

[@brucebaker810]

Or the faith users say we're using faith.

[@UTU49]

If atheism is a religion, then "not playing sports"... is a sport. Religions have inspired more than their fair share of completely nonsensical statements and claims.

[@whovianhistorybuff]

Atheism is a religion in the same way skinning the carrot is a sex position.

[@jackpaul3315]

@@ordoveritas Atheists do act like religious nut jobs very often.

[@patelk464]

The fact that theologian have spent thousands of years trying to understand various religious text and still can't agree shows god cannot communicate.

[@logicalmuslim1590]

I would respectfully disagree, although I think the argument has merit. An in depth examination of the Qur'an reveals that the Qur'an is not humanly possible. Clear evidence of the Creator.

[@Fufiloofa]

​@@logicalmuslim1590lol!!!!!😂

[@patelk464]

@logicalmuslim1590 like all religious text, it should be treated as a guide rather than free from errors. With this is mind, the assetion that Qur'an is clear and free from errors unfortunately cannot be true or be demonstrated or be demonstrated to be true for several reasons. Whenever I have asked Christians to demonstrate the truth of their statement, they usually fall back on one of the following: 1. The original text was true. It is the translation that introduced ambiguity. There is an element of truth in this statement. So, any translation cannot be literally true by definition. 2. We do not understand God. In other words, I know it is ambiguous, and I cannot resolve it so I am going to use my get out clause. 3. You have been corrupted by the non-existent Satan. This is the get out clause when everything else fails. There are elements of each of the above when it comes to resolving ambiguity or disagreements. The term hadith states that ambiguity should be rrsolved by referring back to the original text or we do not understand god. If this fails, it treats anyone who questions statement as being a deviant or corrupted by Satan. So, all three of the fallback positions are present. In terms of why your assertions cannot be true: it is easy to confuse a statement being logically correct and being true. A statement such as: 1. All people over a hundred years old are millionaires. 2. The person next door is over a hundred years old. 3. So, the person next door is a millionaire. Is logically accurate but not true. So, something being clear and without error does not mean that it is true. We know that the Qur'an has taken many ambiguous passages and events from the bible and Abrahamic religion. Therefore, by definition, the text cannot be unambiguous. There is also of Sodom and Gomorrah which, in all likelihood, was a natural event retold in religious context. This retelling was not changed in the Qur'an. There are a number of other events that are mentioned that simply could not have occurred. When text or events are copied, it also usually passes on issues with the original text.

[@katnissstohr6705]

@@logicalmuslim1590 it's not humanly possible to write a book? What are you talking about?

[@logicalmuslim1590]

@@katnissstohr6705 excellent question. If you only consider the amazing mathematical feature of surah Al fatiha, you would see that it could not be coincidence nor was it possible to calculate the math prior to computers. The Qur'an is impossible to imitate.

[@billirwin3558]

Marshmallow and hazelnuts, hey, this guy is on to something. I'll have to tell my fairy and leprechaun friends about this. I lie awake at night just dreaming of new ways to 'sin'. So when I figure out what 'sin' is, I am going to try it. Great work people. And the bloopers were a surprise ending. Thank you.

[@waltjames407]

For those who think you can't hate someone who isn't real, I give you....Wesley Crusher.

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

Dolores Umbridge

[@rssphllps]

I hate Santa because he always gave my rich friends better presents than me!

[@Evan-k]

Who

[@OokEekTheLibraian6708]

100 points for that5 one🍻

[@_Somsnosa_]

Wesley the cute kid from Star Trek? He seems OK

[@a-o-s]

Fantastic format of video, I suspect this will be watched far into the future.

[@party4keeps28]

It is truly sad that some religious people believe life is meaningless without their belief in a god.

[@STOP-n-READ]

John 3:16-17

[@Seticzech]

@@STOP-n-READ Cherry-picking quotes from ancient immoral book of errors is irrelevant and stupld.

[@party4keeps28]

@STOP-n-READ How is that relevant?

[@STOP-n-READ]

@@Seticzech ALL ALL ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, correction, reproof, and instruction in righteousness

[@Seticzech]

@@STOP-n-READ Blablabla scriptures... nobody sane cares about your silly scriptures. 😀

[@collier6794]

Would love more top 10 videos Would love to see top 10 ACTUAL biblical contradictions

[@henno3889]

too easy... The first two pages of genesis already contain at least ten contradictions, like continuity errors or other constructs that can ONLY occur in fiction, not in historic fact.

[@kiralana324]

Two standout to me, 2 & 5, if morality comes from the Abrahamic Bible, I need to fear for my life, and 5 why do I car what others believe? because when the beliefs of other start threatening my life/family and wellbeing I need to protect myself from those people (and prevent / vote them out of govnt

[@kinglyzard]

Love your sense of humer, Forest! Thanx for the new material, and keep up the good work!!😊😊

[@rcblazer]

Funny enough, these are also the 10 most common apologist arguments. I answer them all the time when I get questioned with answers very similar to the ones the hosts gave.

[@damonkenny3444]

Atheists have forgotten what a refutation is. Instead they just dodge everything and evade conclusions, while claiming victory.

[@WingDiamond]

Love the Avie!

[@Anglomachian]

The fact that apologetics even exists should be worrying to believers in the perfect all knowing all loving god of creation

[@ArtofFreeSpeech]

So I listed several things in my head that I expected to hear, based on what I'm most tired of, and none were mentioned. For me it's things like 1) Atheism is a religion 2) A theory is just a guess 3) Atheism is a belief system 4) Atheism means you believe there is no god or gods 5) The Kalam Cosmological argument, etc... things along those lines.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

Once you obey the gospel and repent of your sin Jesus will reveal Himself to you(John 14:21) you can have ultimate proof the Bible is true if you are renewed by the Holy Spirit.

[@JD-bd5uu]

Your fairy tale quotations only serve to prove our point further. Spouting Bible verses is the equivalent of a child putting their fingers in their ears and screaming that they’re not listening. Maybe you could try having an actual conversation or presenting a valid argument, though I suppose you’ll just end up repeating the former like the child you’ve proven yourself to be. Sad.

[@royalrejects]

@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m No one here will take you seriously if you just go around making assertions like this. If you care about being taken seriously, or having an actual conversation, then I'd suggest a different approach.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

@JD-bd5uu if you simply humble yourself and obey the gospel you can know for sure Jesus and the Bible are true when you become born again. If you are not born again you'll be damned in the Lake of fire for eternity. If I were you I would get right with God while I have the opportunity.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

@JD-bd5uu if you simply obey the gospel you can know for sure the Bible is true. I did what Jesus said in the Bible and got born again. I have no doubt that everything the Bible says is true. Thank God I am out of the atheist delusion, can be saved from the Lake of fire and go to life eternal.

[@mytmouse57]

That first guy has no idea what he’s talking about. Clearly, the center of Mars is made of Nutella.

[@kinglyzard]

Nougat😊

[@minaashido518]

Mars. bars.

[@convinceme6676]

nice

[@Frynge357]

Forrest being hilarious right off the bat. I'm borrowing that. "Tv's The Internet's so-and-so..."

[@PARebecca]

Yes I have heard all of these...you would think theists could come up with better arguments to convince us, but so far they have not. What if we are right and there is no Hell ? Theists do not understand how odds work. Also I wonder why we don't have more theists trying to fly off buildings? Faith is faith right? Why don't theists have as much faith they can fly as they do that deities exist? ..LOL

[@drzaius844]

The “life without god has no meaning” gets me the most. Living to worship a god sounds really meaningless to me. Even if you are a theist, you are just picking a meaning for your life. No more objectivity to it, and personally that “meaning of life” sounds like dog shite. My theist family and I live basically exactly the same, putting the same value on family and the arts and beauty and literature, it’s just that I don’t think that there is a god behind anything. So, practically speaking, we live the same. They just think they will be conscious forever which to me diminishes the value of this life that we know we have.

[@mistylover7398]

Exactly lol. ✝️ : butt butt we haz free will and not 🤖.

[@The.BansheeRose]

Good episode. Really enjoyed the bloopers! Rock on dudes 🤘

[@phillipzx3754]

The one I get tired of hearing is, "How can something come from nothing?" So where did their God come from?

[@flyguyry1]

To be fair, they believe he is magic. If you believe that Superman can fly, its not a stretch to believe he also has xray vision.

[@espenstoro]

Meanwhile, Big Bang theory never claimed this. Of course they didn't bother to check that beforehand, that would be out of character.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

Theists are the only people who believe that, I dont subscribe to there ever being nothing. Time as we recognise it may have begun at the Big Bang but that doesn't mean that there was nothing beforehand. I'm not even convinced that nothing is possible.

[@milansvancara]

​@@flyguyry1whether he is magic or not, their logic still doesn't add up either way:) It's about coherence

[@_Somsnosa_]

Why couldn't the universe have existed forever? Why do gods have to be put into that gap? Its not even "gods", most of these ppl are Monotheists and they go straight to assuming that there must be one God and that god is their specific god from their religion. But there are other hypotheses and options they are ignoring such as multiple gods, gods and goddesses creating the universe etc

[@walter6574]

#8 response is some hit and a huge miss. Canada is a socialist country, the governement in Canada oppose it's people far less than the government in America does. Most of Europe is socialist or quasi socialist. Again most of the governments there are less oppresive than the American governement. An interesting note, the equal rights amendment in the USA has not been ratified. That is absurd. Basically, there is no right for woman to be treated as equals to men. We only need rights when oppression happens, thus, when oppression against women happens as in women do not have the right to terminate a pregnancy, there is no way for women to fight that as in there is no equal rights amendment.

[@t800fantasm2]

"Canada is a socialist country, " Nope... Canada is a federal parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy, Do you even know what socialist means?

[@reefhog]

You know Canada is a country in North America, along with the United States and Mexico. America is a continent, not a country.

[@JJ-qo7th]

There are no socialist countries. There are no countries where the workers control the means. This is a terminological problem that I am constantly running into, because the word basically means whatever people want it to mean at the time they use it, instead of what it actually was set down to mean. It's the destruction of language, ugh.

[@espenstoro]

Most of Europe is definitely not socialist. That's not what socialized schooling or healthcare means. Most of us are in fact capitalist societies.

[@BM1982.V2]

As a Canadian we are definitely capitalist. Probably almost as capitalist as the US. Nordic countries also aren't socialist, they are social democracies. Anywhere between 40 and 70% of workers are employed by the government but this employment exists within a capitalist framework.

[@mikehill1114]

Top 10 things I am tired of hearing... 1. Frank Tureks mouth 2: William Lane Craig's mouth 3: John Lennox's mouth 4: Mike Wingers mouth 5: Mike Jones' mouth 6: Greg Koukl's mouth 7: Josh McDowell's mouth 8: Gary Habermas' mouth 9: Detective Wallace's mouth 10: Cliffe Knetchle's mouth

[@Beacon80]

I work at a used book store, and part of me dies a little whenever I have to deal with it their books.

[@waynedexter]

Luckily you have control over your ears

[@mikehill1114]

@@waynedexter Unfortunately being an atheist in the bible belt means I am constantly assaulted by Christians with their pie holes. So I have to keep up with the stupid things apologists are saying now in defense of their wicked superstition.

[@Tuna_Man2323]

@@mikehill1114 Thank you for being an atheist in the buybull belt. I will remain an atheist in California. Although the city I'm in has over 400 churches, it is still better for me than buybull belt, which is already practically a theocracy.

[@mikehill1114]

@Tuna_Man2323 I've lost a couple jobs over it, had my car and house vandalized.

[@MarkMiller-gt5tu]

Preach it Forrest!! Preach it!! 🤣🎉✌️. Happy 🎊 New Year!!

[@johnalexir7634]

Helpful video... effective answers to irritating questions.

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

The source of the concept of morality and ethics is evolutionary awareness. Step 1. A source of basic awareness evolves (say a light sensitive cell) It prefers either avoiding the light. That is a basic version of good/bad/right/wrong. Step 2. Awareness inevitably evolves into primitive understanding. Without these two, morality and ethics cannot exist. Step 3. Awareness, understanding inevitably evolve into empathy, they cause morality and ethics to evolve. You can see this process from extremely primitive to highly sophisticated in virtually every species on earth.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Any Christian preachers here willing to answer some easy questions on theor preaching? I keep asking but they're reluctant to engage. 1) Is dishonesty useful when preaching and is it allowable under 2 Timothy 4? 2) Should preachers have any understanding or knowledge of who they're preaching to in order to be effective? 3) If quoting bible verses is unproductive and even counterproductive why use it?

[@SuperKman32]

1. It's not no good, it's nougat!

[@nmappraiser9926]

Mmm, I could go for a marshmallow hazelnut Mars bar.

[@hank_says_things]

Thing is, apologists are going to keep using these arguments 1) because arguments are all they have as evidence and, importantly 2) because the apologist's audience isn't atheists. Their goal is not to convert us, it's to reassure and entertain theists. And one thing theists have long been conditioned to want and enjoy is repetition. Repetition of scripture, prayers, hymns, homilies, platitudes, and these days, apologetics. Don't grapple with difficult questions, never admit error either personally or within scripture, just give them something familiar and comforting and they'll go home with their faith intact. Job done. And let's not forget the apologist's primary and most important target for all these arguments: themselves. You can't retain souls for Christ if you can't keep yourself on the pew. Turn your arguments inward and bolster your own belief before redoctrinating others. That's why these arguments will persist. Not because they work on skeptics, but because they work on believers.

[@nealjroberts4050]

That's generally why the Christian preachers here ignore my questions about preaching.

[@Eli_Slack]

Look, mom! I'm on TV's The Internet!

[@Asa...S]

"..is made out of both hazelnut and marshmallow and that's no good" No good?! Sounds delicious! 😋 I think the center is of Mars is made out of caramel and nougat though...

[@kellyrestiaux9846]

In the USA I think they call Mars the Milky Way planet 'cause they don't got the Metric System and don't know WTF a Mars Bar is.

[@DharricRolyat]

One of the best The Atheist Experience videos I've seen this year. Thanks for this and here's to a great 2025.

[@patchwurk6652]

@@D-1-V-A So no proof of your own. Got it.

[@joolding6022]

J Mike melting my brain with the Philosophy Jar-Gun

[@furtdrven2512]

Objective morality: Subjective opinion of god I subjectively choose to believe in.

[@starlight4130]

Hahaha so true

[@chrisd6287]

Ahhh yes, the vocal Fry. Well done Forrest 😂

[@WaysToHuman]

Every single one of these was amazing, great compilation, I honestly can't pick a favorite, so good! But Forrest telling terribly hilarious jokes and making ASMR noises takes the cake 🤣 we need an entire short (long) of him fucking up, please!

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

An all-knowing god that punishes me for having a brain that cannot be convinced the assertions men make on behalf of that god are true assertions is not an all knowing god. This however would be a perfectly rational punishment for a god invented by men To threaten people with who are not convinced the assertions men make on behalf of the god they've written about are true.

[@QueenBoadicea]

1:02 Hey, the center of Mars could be made out of marshmallows AND hazelnuts! There are candies with creamy and nutty centers; why not a planet? It would be magically delicious!

[@tomyfamily1]

I'm just here to hunting for the CDF (Christianity Defense Force) comments. You know, "Believe on Jesus", "Book name 12:89 God said this and that, there's the proof", "your lack of belief offends me and i must defend jesus and god", my personal favorite is the, "well you were never saved". I know they're here. Lol. Y'all please feel free to give me your favorite CDF lines. 😂😂😂

[@Arun2408-s4s]

And I was searching for "Jesus Loves you" 😂 No man I don't need love from an imaginary entity. Your God blindly loves you😂

[@teapottanuki5841]

There’s been a rising trend of AI generated videos of birds sheltering their kids from rain by raising their wings up. Inevitably a couple of people in the comments are like “what a miraculous creature! Only god could-“ and so on. Like come on…

[@TheHiralis]

I forget just how ripped Forrest is

[@dhwyll]

As a variant for Number 4, “There is no knowledge without god”: In a world where there is no god, it would be a true statement to say, “There is no god;” a false statement to say, “There is a god;” and both statements cannot be true simultaneously. So we’ve just established identity, excluded middle, and non-contradiction without god. Thus, logic is independent of god and does not require a god and with the ability to use logic, we have the basis for acquiring knowledge.

[@mikebeagley]

Around this time of year, I get annoyed when some flavour of Christian tries getting all righteous in some general setting or forum with, "Let's all remember the reason for the season...."

[@ojrmk1]

Axial Tilt

[@freakishuproar1168]

I've always found it funny that white Christian conservatives really _really_ care about the birth of a middle-eastern baby.

[@jb888888888]

To cheer ourselves up even though we know that Persephone has returned to the Underworld to serve as queen alongside her uncle/husband Hades?

[@STOP-n-READ]

"They hated Me (Jesus) WITHOUT cause" --Jn. 15:25

[@STOP-n-READ]

JOHN 3:16-17 READ IT!

[@UnapologeticallyKrissi]

Came for the countdown. Stayed for the bloopers! 😂

[@amontrealpaul226]

For the love of Buddah, don't give the trollspambots more material! 😅

[@STOP-n-READ]

For the love of God, don't give the devil more of a foothold by resisting God

[@amontrealpaul226]

​@@STOP-n-READspam egg sausage and spam

[@davidrhodes5245]

When they say “How do you know what is right or wrong if you don’t get your morals from God” ??…….That one really makes me yawn. 😂

[@STOP-n-READ]

1 Corinthians 1:18 !

[@Seticzech]

@@STOP-n-READ Cherry-picking quotes from ancient immoral book of errors is irrelevant and stupld.

[@Gnome_with_no_name]

The sinning thing makes so little sense. I’m a very boring atheist. I spend most of my time and energy at work, interacting with my kids and wife and mucking about with my hobbies (woodcarving and plants). I don’t think any of that is sinful, so what exactly am I doing?

[@Beacon80]

Apologists: You just want to sin! My sins: Not throwing rocks at my gay friends.

[@simonl1135]

Hi there, TV's and Internet's Forrest Valkai! I like listening to you talk about smart stuff.

[@buckiesmalls]

Thought for sure "intelligent design" would make this list.

[@kellyrestiaux9846]

I was totally expecting "Evolution / Abiogenesis is false THEREFORE god can has Real !"

[@clemstevenson]

Since when has Christianity ever been based upon anything more substantial than blind faith? To me, it is obvious that nobody has, or can, be saved from a fate that cannot possibly be real. When your brain dies, you're gone. I didn't need Forrest Valkai to tell me that, because I figured it out for myself decades ago. The NDE claims of the 90s didn't explain the sad fates of severe stroke victims.

[@mistylover7398]

Exactly

[@Errickfoxy27]

My answers for number 9 are similar, but not quite the same. The way you phrase it here is a bit different from my take. So, what if I'm wrong? Either: God is good, and will understand that I'm only engaging in the skepticism He put into me and made me to use, and as such, won't punish me for being logical. Or: God is not good, and will punish me for "failing to believe", in which case I may suffer torment but I have the moral high ground, and that's a comfort in itself.

[@user-on6uf6om7s]

What about option 3: God is using religious texts to test our goodness and love for each other and the only ones that lose are the people that think it's okay to kill and enslave people who believe differently because their holy book says so. If I was God, those people would have something to answer for.

[@Errickfoxy27]

@@user-on6uf6om7s I would say that sort of fits into the first category, but on the other hand, if he's doing that he's not a good God. So I'm not sure how to categorize it if I do right, and get rewarded, but God isn't good because he still punishes people other than me who don't deserve it.

[@WhizzerdSupreme]

Is it just me or is a full length audiobook of Forrest telling Dad Jokes something we all need?

[@happyninja42]

TV's The Internet's Forrest Valkai sounds like TV's Frank to me. And I approve 👍

[@canderson5098]

Hi-Kiba!

[@happyninja42]

@@canderson5098 Saaaandstoooorm!! Saaaaaandstooooooorm!!

[@renedekker9806]

Marshmallow in hazelnut spread sounds great to me! Let's move to Mars!

[@dom11949]

just give them the usual flerf answer---nuh uh

[@JulioReynolds-tc3yk]

"What do you call a book club that's been stuck on the same book for way too long?" (It immediately goes to a commercial for.... A CHURCH!😅😅😅😅)

[@bipolarminddroppings]

I'd just like any theist to come up with an original argument, instead of the same ones that were debunked by the greeks 2500 years ago...

[@STOP-n-READ]

PSALM 14:1 👉👉 PSALM 19:1-4 👉👉 ROMANS 1:18-22 !!

[@Seticzech]

@@STOP-n-READ Cherry-picking quotes from ancient immoral book of errors is irrelevant and stupld.

[@amtlpaul]

​@@STOP-n-READspam egg sausage and spam

[@Beacon80]

​@@STOP-n-READThose aren't even arguments. They're just assertions.

[@laurajarrell6187]

This was so good, I had to watch it a few times. Love bloopers!👍🏼💙💝💙💝💙🥰✌

[@brianroyster7510]

Is a marshmallow/hazelnut planetary core contradictory?

[@nullifier_]

first rebutal is so intricatelly coherent and it's the best counter-argument i've heard maybe ever

[@amtlpaul]

The moral argument is pretty bad. Fortunately, both Damon and Apot have admitted that it's shite, by saying that certain actions would be evil even if God permitted them, although Surly Edith has yet to do so.

[@damonkenny3444]

Why must Theists prove to you child grape is morally evil? Why?

[@amtlpaul]

​@damonkenny3444 You're the one who keeps bringing it up for debate, you tell me.

[@damonkenny3444]

@@amtlpaul Theists aren’t wrong that child grape is evil- objectively. Only you say it is .

[@amtlpaul]

​@damonkenny3444 you are the creep who keeps putting that up for debate

[@damonkenny3444]

@@amtlpaul Theists are correct to say child grape is evil- objectively. Yet you say they’re wrong.

[@envygames4271]

“Turn to God. Do you fear hell?” made me block an s-poster on Quora who is a devout catholic and not an apologist, fyi. It came up when I told him to not discriminate Hindus.

[@StevenMyers-wx6du]

The two things I’m so tired of hearing are “you were never a true believer”, and the converse accusation, “everyone knows there’s a God”. So basically, I never really believed, but I really do believe!

[@arch4053]

"You just want to sin" Uh, yea. A lot of things you call sin, are normal, everyday parts of the human experience. Things such as pride, greed, gluttony, lust, sloth. What else is a sin? Vengeance? Perfectly normal and healthy. We all celebrate stories of fathers getting vengeance on someone who hurt their daughter, pride and greed are what make the world go round. If you can't feel pride for your achievement, or have greed to motivate you, then why do anything? Sex, sloth and gluttony are self-obvious.

[@milansvancara]

I have to disagree, for example things like pride and greed are some of the biggest drivers of religion.

[@bobmudge4836]

I can’t conclusively prove any god doesn’t exist, so I guess we need to believe in all of them.

[@rohnleidigh213]

And stop trying to use bible verses as "proof" as if they mean anything to anyone that doesn't believe in that book and god in the first place. It's idiotic and pointless.

[@voxpopuli348]

True. It's a mythological book of angry god fairy tales.

[@HadoukanFire]

I have proof of miracles, the Holy Spirit, and God. No verses needed, you can see it firsthand

[@rohnleidigh213]

@@HadoukanFire 😂

[@HadoukanFire]

@@rohnleidigh213 If you think I am joking then humor me

[@patchwurk6652]

@@HadoukanFire Nah, not going to. Prove it or accept you're full of it.

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

"Hi. I'm TV's the internet's Forest Valkai. You may know me from such shows as "I'm Christian And I Can't Say Why" and "The Strange And Somewhat Sexy Biology Of The Marsupial."

[@scienceisreal779]

Cut the red scare bullcrap

[@waynedexter]

What I’m tried of hearing is apologists arguing for the utility of religion. Utility is the reason to believe. Keep in mind that most of these utilities can also be acquired without having to subscribe to a dogmatic religion.

[@stevemull22x]

There is CLEAR evidence for GOD. He’s right in front of your faces 🙂‍↕️ PRAISE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD: FORREST VALKAI. Say Hi to Rolland for me 👋

[@beatduck]

No. 8: Forgot to mention that monotheism is literally a fascist model with one supreme ruler at the top.

[@cggambill]

Forest is hysterical.

[@chaospoet]

"What do you call a book club that's stuck on one book? Church!" Thankfully no one else was on the road when I heard that and started laughing really hard. Otherwise that might have ended poorly.

[@JackassJester]

Reintarnation. 😆

[@kinglyzard]

"You just want to SIN!" Sin is a wrongdoing to self, others and/or to the planet. I feel no desire to hurt myself, others or the planet. Next, please....

[@annejohnson9028]

Great presentations but why are there no women giving their opinions?

[@TheAtheistExperience]

This was not intentional. We sent out a notice to all our show hosts that we would be recording these segments at The Freethought Library during this year's Bat Cruise, but unfortunately none of our female hosts were able to make the recording.

[@ThroneofDavid8]

Women are to keep silent in this world.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@ThroneofDavid8 "Women are to keep silent in this world." That is a truly disgusting thing to say and only the worst piece of trash would say it... I bet you are an InCel aren't you...? Never been with a woman I bet... The only people who need to control women are those who are afraid of women... You are proof that religion is a blight on humanity...

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Why does it matter, when you know there ARE female hosts. Are you seeking offense where there is none? This seems to be a common occurrence these days. I would like to see the words reasophobia and antirationalism popularised, it never seems to be mentioned?

[@Diviance]

@@ThroneofDavid8 The only way someone like you can get a woman is if the woman has no choice in the matter. Which is why you want women to have no choice in the matter.

[@christinerodgers1460]

I think its laughable they think ppl are atheist just so they can sin, like anyone ever let their religion get in the way of committing a sin.

[@gatorboymike]

LOOK AT DA TREEEEEZ

[@brucebaker810]

Holy crap. A _tree._ How long has THAT thing been there!?

[@STOP-n-READ]

PSALM 19:1-4 !! ROMANS 1:18-22 !!

[@gibbobux1033]

@@STOP-n-READ Confirmation bias and gullibility. Your cult uses that to keep their followers by lying against the "outsiders" and telling yourself that your lies are "obvious facts". And you support that and spread it around? Truly shameless and immoral behaviour, evolution spent so much time on you just for you to do this, you failed in life.

[@brucebaker810]

@@STOP-n-READ So... Look at the Psalm Trees? That's nuts. COCOnuts! 🥥 🌴 🌴

[@bunionation1222]

That was fantastic!