"Why Are You Atheists?"

[@JayMaverick]

I love it when theists accuse me of dismissing evidence in favor of a predetermined conclusion, while telling me they believe in something regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

[@pcppbadminton]

I think that because his world view starts with the conclusion and works backward he found it hard to comprehend someone who's mind works the other way. Like when he said they explain away the supernatural because not believing in supernatural things is their world view.

[@BeefT-Sq]

"The fundamental concept here is “faith.” “Faith” in this context means belief in the absence of evidence. This is the essential that distinguishes religion from science." -Leonard Peikoff- 1986

[@garyfink5519]

"I'm not talking about the supernatural. I'm just talking about god burning the top of a mountain. You know... history..."

[@grossartus]

@@garyfink5519 someone asked me to explain the 7 plagues if god didnt exist 😑

[@larrymorgan3841]

@@grossartus I’ve actually seen that one dealt with scientifically. If it happened, the science behind it is pretty interesting!

[@grossartus]

@@larrymorgan3841 i saw one in discovery channel, but still i part for the lack of historical documentation of the exodus, egyptians would write about everything and never mentioned there were "plagues"

[@dyrewolfrm]

He reminds me of the guy on the History Channel who said "I'm not saying that it's aliens, but it's aliens!"

[@Chemical_Symphony]

​@@dyrewolfrmGiorgio Tsoukalos lol. Big haired weirdo. I believe aliens exist but that dude takes it to the absolute extreme and associates everything with them.

[@captkalik]

The moment you say you believe the Bible is 100% and you never read it you know you’re gonna get clapped

Yeah if he’s so concerned about what is “logical and consistent” he really shouldn’t be trusting the Bible…

[@kamnale1317]

If i thought it's the inerrant word of the one true God, i would be sure to know every single line of it

[@porkyboy4226]

But should get slapped😂

[@paulbrinsley]

The history of Christianity is far more interesting and how it was spread ....... All prospective religious types should read the history of they're religion of choice first .... if they have a choice .......

[@Heathen.Deity.]

But he “looks at his logic”, so I’m convinced 😂

[@ASM42186]

Caller - "I don't want to talk about the supernatural." Proceeds to make multiple supernatural claims. Forest / Godless Engineer - That's not logical. Caller - "It's only not logical because you don't want to consider supernatural explanations, but I don't want to talk about the supernatural." Proceeds to make more supernatural claims. Do these people hear themselves talk? Forest is the ultimate nice-guy atheist. I am consistently in awe of his ability to remain cordial in the face of such batshitery.

[@kriss3d]

If we had something we could confirm to have taken place that we knew was supernatural then it would be something else yes. But we don't.

[@Stinkabutt42069]

Well as much as I love this version of him just wait till he’s been at this for a few years constantly hearing either the same useless arguments over and over or dealing with people incapable of having honest conversations

[@omniking9631]

The sky turned black because lord Frieza summoned Shenron to make a wish with the Dragon Balls. Prove me wrong

[@Here_is_Waldo]

We have the documentaries to prove this is true. Thank Kami that Goku saved us from the evil

[@wasssyup]

​@@Here_is_Waldoyup, we even have scriptures that come out weekly with the exact images of how everything went down.

[@TheLevantin]

@@wasssyup And unlike the Bible, we know the authors.

[@emdivine]

@@TheLevantin though he did die recently so we can't ask him for clarification any more. RIP Toriyama :(

[@tekbarrier]

I can easily prove you wrong. Everybody knows the sky turned black because Nightmare Moon returned after 1000 years and shrouded the world in eternal night! (swish)

[@giantcat4354]

I love how Forrest calls out and reciprocates the respectful vibe of the callers.

[@Mr_Porter]

I gotta give Dre some props for being respectful-for the most part-but let’s be real, debating just isn’t his thing. They spent 47 minutes on that call and barely scratched the surface. Honestly, I had a feeling it was going to be a rough ride within the first 90 seconds. The moment a theist calls in and decides to quiz atheists instead of presenting their own argument and defending their beliefs, you already know it's either about to go off the rails or we’re stuck running in place like we’re on a conversational treadmill. Maybe, just maybe, Dre will hit the books and actually do some homework before calling back in. I mean, it’s unlikely, but hey, if more callers took that route, these follow-up calls would be a lot smoother. Who knows, maybe one day we’ll get a debate that isn’t just a scenic tour of nowhere!

[@tpseeker3367]

""but let’s be real, debating just isn’t his thing. They spent 47 minutes on that call and barely scratched the surface.""" This says so much & is what Dre's intentions were @Mr_Porter 4:40 Dre ""I Believe in the Bible, 100% Everything in it is true"" 32:13 Dre ""you asked me for evidence that God exists, ""I'm not saying the Bible is True I'm Not saying Jesus Christ really lived"""

[@Wh40kFinatic]

I found Dre incredibly arrogant and condescending throughout that entire call.

[@Mr_Porter]

@@Wh40kFinatic Here’s what I noticed: Dre only started getting all condescending and arrogant after the hosts hit him with solid rebuttals. Honestly, that’s par for the course on this show. I could probably count on one hand the number of callers who roll in thinking they’ve got the ultimate truth and are actually open to pushback. Those callers are a rare breed, but we’ve had a few here and there over the years. Most of the time, you’ve got these overly confident folks who, the moment their argument gets poked full of holes, start to lose it. That’s when you see the frustration creep in. They interrupt more, deflect, and do whatever they can to avoid admitting they were way less prepared than they thought. It’s all about saving face at that point. Now, to Dre’s credit, even though he didn’t get loud and wild like some of these other callers once their position crumbles, I did respect that he let the hosts lay out their counter-arguments without turning into a complete jerk. At least he had some composure!

[@DulceN]

@@Wh40kFinaticExactly! The guy is completely unaware of his ignorance.

[@kitchencarvings4621]

I'm an atheist because I'm too honest to be a theist.

[@CalamariPlaysStarfield]

I felt that in my non-existent soul

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Yeah I'm an atheist because I'm OK with saying the words, I don't know!!

[@bojack2740]

😂😂😂😂All replies, gold.

[@howboutno9993]

BuT iT tAkEs MoRe FaItH tO bE An AtHeIsT. 😅😅😅

[@Lund.J]

But you also claim to have found the truth, so what's the difference?

[@MrMattSax]

Logic. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[@jonclark8252]

That's INCONCEIVABLE!!

[@confustled]

"Wait 'till I get going!"

[@evenstoats2639]

@@MrMattSax Have you heard of Aristotle, Plato, Socrates? Morons.

[@dwp6471]

​@@jonclark8252 Great allusion. I hope many people get it. As you wish.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

Logic is when god did it

[@grahamblack1961]

Virtually every caller on this does the same thing. Asks a question but doesn't seem to listen to the answer and then just moves to the next thing.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

They're just gotcha questions that they didnt actually think about very much.

[@jwmmitch]

Caller "why don't you believe in God" Atheist "there's no evidence for any gods" Caller "gotcha....." Everyone: "that's not how anything works"

[@russell4625]

Yeah it's like.. I want to like this channel.. but they really need to stop just taking random ass callers cause this is just not good content. It's hard to listen to.

[@mopakiw]

I have a creeping suspicion that some people are inclined to monologue, but let others interrupt in order to be polite and do not see a conversation as a back and forth.

[@grahamblack1961]

@@mopakiw In my experience most people are like that

[@justgotravel6646]

One of many reasons being Atheist is I can sleep longer on Sundays.

[@rohdri]

Wednesday evening services exist. But hey, it's about as good a reason as why I'm a deist. I don't even worship the creator I think exists because I'm pretty sure they don't actually care.

[@bubbercakes528]

You can do some real good sleeping in church!😂😂😂

[@evenstoats2639]

@@justgotravel6646 And not having to praise a genocidal dictator for over an hour. Now I'm an atheist, church is worse than a time share presentation. Well almost.

[@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210]

It doesn't matter if you're religious or not, you choose to go to Mass or gatherings or not. Even if you're being pressured; it's still a choice.

[@rohdri]

@@biblebadcopycatofcuneiform8210 Given how much of it is supposed to be a personal relationship, that's probably more true to the faith.

[@craigbradford4850]

To hear these people speak so surely about things that can be easily fact checked is hilarious.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

Thank you for your nervous laughter. I've witnessed plenty of it over the 50 yrs that I've totally destroyed every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism. It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@TheLevantin]

I love it when people claim fetus is Latin for “little child” because the first sentence of Wikipedia says it means “brood” or “offspring”. It's really ridiculous.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

They are eating the Dogs!

[@rodshop5897]

@@isidoreaerys8745 They are serving the hamsters as appetizers!

[@jjbud3124]

Yes, but what about their "alternative" facts? Kelly Ann can tell you all about it.

[@forbiddenmonk]

'i am going to assert things that are demonstrably false and then insist that im right and therefore im the right one' yeah about that dude

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

Dre, or the bible? Por que no los dos?

[@heidihaw8119]

Dre, “logic” Inigo Montoya, “you keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.”

[@craigbradford4850]

Dre says, “If something doesn’t equate to your worldview, you just dismiss it!” Twenty minutes later when GE says, “Mark definitely comes after Paul” Dre responds with, “That’s not true, bro” Why? Because it doesn’t “equate” w/ his worldview. Do better, Dre.

[@wasssyup]

Not forgetting after the "you just dismiss it!" when forest waa done explaining his error, he says he never said that. And he did that shtick multiple times. His dishonesty really got on my nerves. John was noticing and getting irritated on that too.

[@matthew6427]

Good on Forrest for acknowledging the respect and then giving it back to the caller. It doesn't happen very often but it's super nice when it does. Good to see the respectful reciprocation ✌️

[@nealjroberts4050]

It'd be nice if more callers called in with respect. I'd argue that Dre was not very good at it but at least he tried.

[@Onio_Saiyan]

I listened to this live while struggling to build an entire Mekanism setup in Minecraft. This call instilled in me some frustration and now my wiring job and organization is messy. Have a wonderful afternoon!

[@Thunderbolt-9]

Is Minecraft fun? I tried it once (singleplayer) and couldn’t enjoy it

[@summerlovinxx]

​@@Thunderbolt-9 that's dependent on what you find fun lol. as someone who's been playing for roughly a decade, I'd say the average experience is it's something you kinda just have to have the desire to play. that being said, if you can scrounge up some friends to play together, I'd imagine it would be a more enjoyable time.

[@indigopines]

​@@Thunderbolt-9I can say that I enjoy Minecraft because I'm an artist, so it's fun for me to make little pretty builds I can walk around, like its a virtual diorama. Some people like Minecraft because it has a very deep and complicated tech system that could literally be used to create actual code in the game (see those "i made minecraft in minecraft" videos) but also could just, like, open a secret door to a secret room. Some people like the aspect of pvp and thinking on the fly, which could be done in any game, but Minecraft definitely lets you be a lot more creative about it. If you don't think any of those are interesting, that's fine! But those are some core reasons why people like to play. Hope this helps!

[@Onio_Saiyan]

@@Thunderbolt-9 I’m the kind of guy that enjoys games like Factorio, satisfactory, Dyson sphere simulator, and a bunch of RTS is like Warhammer. The mods I put into Minecraft flex that brain muscle. If you just like building stuff and trying to make a sustainable survival area, you should give it a look

[@RussianPrimeMinister]

One more block. One more block. One more block. . .

[@canderson5098]

It's because I think everything came from nothing and because I love my sin and because I hate god and refuse to be accountable. That's why theists tell me why I'm an atheist and I guess they know me better than I do.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

Don't forget about how much we just love eating babies!! 😂😂😂

[@Mikorator64]

​@@jackwhitbread4583 baby carrots... baby carrots that is... Right?...

[@TeaMollie11]

I’m dying to know how god accounts for the cosmic microwave background radiation

[@Lund.J]

God loves you.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

@@TeaMollie11 Its' the effect from the cause/source called "GENESIS."

[@PxsDD]

I saw Forrest walk on water and raise from the dead.

Well at least we can prove Forrest is a real person so this holds more credibility than the Bible. 👍

[@Beacon80]

I didn't see it myself, but I heard there were 500 eye witnesses, so it must be true.

[@jful]

Quick, someone write that down!

[@user-vx9jy7jl2l]

@@jfulnah bro you gotta wait a few decades to write it down. Otherwise people won’t believe it!

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

​@@user-vx9jy7jl2land make sure that later writings about this event add more magical things. and also make sure that not all accounts match up.

[@smochygrice465]

For me, being an atheist just means I dont have to waste spare time on doing boring AF God ritual activities like worship and prayer. As honestly, I'd rather spend my spare time gardening or walking the dog. But like I always say, each to their own personal hobbies and interests 🙏 And a good Thursday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️

[@rustyskeleman]

​@@theepsteindiaries You obviously didn't read the post. Nothing about it says anything about how difficult something is. Your statement that OP can't chew gum and walk at the sametime illustrates you aren't here for a constructive conversation

[@jackwhitbread4583]

​@@theepsteindiarieswhy do you treat your God so poorly btw? Do you not think he's probably sick of listening to the gazillion daily and useless prayers you people make? Jesus literally told you not to utter any prayer but the Lords prayer, does it make you feel good knowing that you sin daily and are deeply displeasing your God?

[@Childfree334]

​@theepsteindiaries I don't have any problems multitasking at all. Religion and prayer are not necessary to accomplish anything.

[@Mr_Rouge]

_"each to their own personal hobbies and interests"_ As long as you don't make me walk my dog or do some gardening if I don't want to, that's ok with me. 😜

[@Mr_Rouge]

@@theepsteindiaries Nah, you don't get it... 🥱🤫 _your handle says a lot about you... creepy and probably criminal._

[@mirandahotspring4019]

At school we used to have an hour each week of religious instruction. We were separated into two groups, Catholics and others. If you weren't a Christian, tough luck I guess. Well when one priest or minister or whatever he was turned up I asked him a question. He couldn't answer it satisfactorily and got rather angry with me. I was about eleven the guy got pretty intimidating about it. I thought if he can't answer a question without losing it then it's probably all a lot of BS. He even reported me to the headmaster as a trouble maker. I became an agnostic about then and read the bible much more than any of them would have expected. Then each week I'd have another question to ask just to be a nuisance about it. I bet they were all glad when I moved up to secondary school two years later. By then I was a full on atheist and nothing in my life since has ever lead me to doubt my decision. In fact everything continually reinforces my lack of a belief in a god or gods. Funny thing is, I don't even remember what my original question was.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

STOP with the stupidity already. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith of atheism is the dumbest one. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL

[@user-vx9jy7jl2l]

@@borthwrenblanston6632atheism just means that we don’t believe in your fairy tales. There’s no worshipping or any of your shit involved. Try again. 🤡

[@larrymorgan3841]

People who claim to have been atheist, and are now theist… I am convinced what they mean is, “I used to be non-religious & didn’t thoughtfully follow a particular religion’s teachings.”

[@Furry-iousNews]

32:40 Dre has _never_ had a critical thought about his religion Hex, id be amazed if he had a _sketical_ nerve in him at all. Dre, my guy, for your _OWN_ safety, try learning some healthy skepticism before you get absolutely *fleeced*

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

Skeptical

[@Bearded_Dro]

I appreciate Forrest taking a step back and realized he and Dre were talking past each other, tried to reframe, and was able to bring the conversation back on track. He's a pretty great communicator.

[@Calico321]

The question "Why are you an atheist " should always be met be "Tell me why you don't believe in all other gods/myths put forward by every human culture, it'll be in there somewhere."

[@ichsehsanders]

Well many dismiss the other Religions based on theirs Beeing the only "True" one=everything else must be false by default "reasoning"

[@TrappedinSLC]

Exactly this. I'd only be Christian because I was born in a place where that's the dominant religion to parents who followed that religion. I would've been something else if I'd been born elsewhere or to other people, and *those* people would also have thought they were right. They can't *all* be right.

[@hanhan7395]

I love it when people proclaim they’re very unbiased. It’s like all those people that have to proclaim “I’m an honest guy” Never been my experience to be true, quite the opposite.

[@Ryangubbs]

What would being an unbiased person actually look like? Do they have a neutral stance on every position? How exactly?

[@joshsheridan9511]

I'm an atheist because I've never held a belief in any god. I'll remain an atheist until someone meets my standard for evidence The fallacious arguments and claims of various believers doesn't do that.

[@Jesse-JC]

What is your standard for evidence?

[@Finckelstein]

@@Jesse-JC How about we start with something simple: Something more than "Book says a thing" or "Person says X". Got any of that? And just to be clear: Arguments are not evidence. All those fallacious arguments for god theists came up with are literally worthless. Maybe even less than that, because it shows how far religious people have to reach to even have the facade of making sense (while still not making sense).

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@Jesse-JCbeyond a reasonable doubt. Got anything that isn't fallacious, my book says a thing, how else did everything get here or the various look it the trees arguments?

[@Jesse-JC]

@@Finckelstein Ok, so what are you looking for? You've eliminated all of historical documentation and studies. Historical evidence is now removed. What evidence do you need?

[@joshsheridan9511]

PS if your argument contains something has to come from something else Then define that something and explain exactly why the other something has to be your particular version of a god

[@gatorboymike]

Drink every time "they" found Noah's Ark.

[@noone3216]

I attempted this once.. I ended up more piss drunk than Noah himself 😑

[@jful]

The amount of drinks required for that would actually cause a global flood

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

​@@noone3216 Did you have some raunchy father-daughter sex afterwards?

[@Pepsolman]

@@jfulunderrated response. Good job by you, sir. 🧐

[@stefkukla8533]

I would be impressed if a large wooden structure-built by four simple amateurs, which had survived a year of stormy conditions-would have survived more than five thousand years, out in the open, on the top of a mountain, without succumbing to 5 millenia's worth of weathering.

[@kewakl8891]

I am under ZERO obligation to explain my lack of belief in a deity. I claim nothing. I own no explanation. I am not required to defend A LACK OF A POSITION!

[@Scottaskadly]

Claims made without evidence etc etc etc...

[@kewakl8891]

@@Scottaskadly EXACTLY! Sadly, it does seem that some of us do not understand what the phrase "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" really means

[@Scottaskadly]

@@kewakl8891 I love watching them turn themselves into knots when the ask me why I disagree, and I tell the I disagree for exactly the same reasons that they agree.

[@Lund.J]

You claim, that you lack belief.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

That's just your weak cover for not only being a coward, but knowing all atheist ideas are IMPOSSIBLE and not just WRONG. And you do "have a position; it's called "ATHEISM." The faith w/ no factual support; faith that this world is GODLESS. It's far more plausible that God exists than not; otherwise a mud puddle DID IT. Without God, one would have to believe something like this: A rock came from a bang, got wet and produced LIFE from SOUP. There is no POSSIBLE BRIDGE to get from a ROCK to YOU. The cult of Atheism is just that easy to kill. There's no possibility that a MINDLESS, UNGUIDED wet rock produced the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals & 300,000 DIFFERENT plants over time from basically NOTHING. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@RubixCubed3]

Aztecs saw the sun dim during the day. They had no idea why that happens. Therefore they believed that jaguars ate the Sun. Turns out it was a solar eclipse. There’s almost always a natural answer for supernatural phenomena.

[@Seticzech]

Not almost always but always. 🙂

[@MrCanis4]

My idea exactly. When they talk about ‘history’. Who is history? The Mayans, the Northmen, the Aztecs, the Inuit or the Chinese, the Mogolian, . . .

[@smochygrice465]

Thank God for atheism 🙏

[@ChessArmyCommander]

I agree! If atheistic positions were not a thing, we wouldn't have the "iron sharpening iron" effect, that stems from theism vs atheism. The best arguments, both generally and philosophically, were born out of that fight.

[@smochygrice465]

@@ChessArmyCommander Personally, I reckon God designed, created and implemented "atheism" into creation, for those like me that find worship and prayer activities boring AF. Though some would say Atheism was Satan's doing, which I'll grant, but the credit at the end of the day still goes to the one that designed, created and implemented Satan into creation 🙏 God bless The Atheist Experience Peace Love Empathy Always Brother ✌️

[@ChessArmyCommander]

@@smochygrice465 _Personally, I reckon God designed created and implemented "atheism" into creation_ Sure. _for those like me that find worship and prayer activities boring AF._ That doesn't make sense to me. I'm not mainstream religious, I'm not with any mainstream church doing those things. But. I'm not an atheist. In my view, one is engaging in "worship" , merely by having a positive attitude towards God regarding a beautiful sunset or something. While in the armchair at home, enjoying good health. Things like that. A right reverent attitude towards God, doesn't mean jumping up and down while doing back flips, and doing cartwheels , in some wild church. While shouting , "praise Jesus" . _Though some would say Atheism was Satan's doing_ It is, along with false religion or naturalism/scientism. Its just that ultimately, its all of God. Satan is just an actor sort of speak, as are we. On God's great stage, of reality as we experience it. With God, the grand director. _which I'll grant but the credit at the end of the day still goes to the one that designed_ Yeah, absolutely. But relatively speaking, "in the movie" of life sort of speak, we all have our role. And satan has a role. _created and implemented Satan into creation_ Yup. _God bless The Atheist Experience_ Yes. _Peace Love Empathy Always Brother_ Back at ya! 🤗

[@WinstonSmith19847]

I was always an atheist and I was made to go to church by my born-again Christian parents when I just wanted to hang out with my friends on Sundays I had to sing and praise a God I didn't believe in and I hated it and I came close to being brainwashed with the rest of them, my rejection of the religion caused a rift between me and my very religious Stepmother and has ruined our relationship and caused me misery for a large percentage of my life. I have utter contempt for Christianity now.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

Brain-washed? Indoctrination? Kids? I want YOU mutt-stupid atheist liberals to stay away from kids. I don’t want them thinking they came from a rock and that they are nothing but the worthless sum of MINDLESS chemical reactions that made them into a worthless evolved animal. I want them to know that they have a purpose in life - to love G0D and love their neighbor as themselves. A lot of these school shootings are the result of your idiotic religion of atheism. The religious cult of atheism is detrimental to society. We can't have you atheists as leaders in the community, because you're lost & clueless and have no reason for morality. We can't have you around kids - telling them that they came from a rock and that they are nothing but the worthless sum of MINDLESS chemical reactions that made them into a worthless evolved animal. I want them to know that they have a purpose in life - to love G0D and love their neighbor as themselves. A lot of these school shootings are the result of your idiotic religion of atheism. You can do nothing but raise “Mini Hitlers.” Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith of atheism is the dumbest one. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL

[@Calico321]

That's really close to my story. Sunday mornings were hell, I just wanted to get some extra sleep. Thankfully I didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch them act like weirdos.

[@ierwin88]

@@Calico321 I kept staring out the windows at tall, slender poplar trees near the windows, and thinking that I could jump over to them and climb down and get away!

[@michaelbell3181]

Actually, Dre, we don't even know what year he died. We have a 3+/- event timeline for Jesus death ( if there were one).

[@Calico321]

But the sky went dArK!1 Which has never ever happened before or since. 😯

[@pavelZhd]

16:47 another thing about the flood myth to consider is - humans lived and had some early civilizations when the last ice age glaciers were receding. And when a glacier is receding you quite often have glacial lakes forming. Then the huge top area of a glacier is melted into water but all that water got trapped in a basin of some sort. So it builds up to basically have sea worth of water. And then a wall of that basin breaks and the surrounding areas get flooded. A human civilization that witnessed such an event would be highly traumatised. And there would be multiple stories of whole tribes being wiped out with only like one family of survivors getting stranded in the water for what feels like a year before they got washed a sore and met other people to share their story. And with primitive mindset such events are bound to be interpreted as wrath of God and remembered for the generations to come...

[@Bp_blp]

If the sky went black, it isnt because of any christian divinity. Everyone knows it was because Jormungandr was in the process of blacking out the sky with his venom to bring about Ragnarok before it was meant to happen. Everyone knows that it was that Helios' chariot was broken for a moment. It was actually Khepri covering the sun in the sky.

[@MGC-XIII]

Respect to this guy for being so honest. He also sounded like he was genuinely interested in why people do not believe in the bible and religions as a whole. I would wager he is not far from becoming an Atheist still Dre seems to have this thing called confirmation bias, which is very normal for people to have, but that leads to circular reasoning and will often lead you to ignore the more logical explanation.

[@grantwing4942]

I climbed Mt Sinai. Didn't see any signs of burn damage. Saw a few grifters trying to sell 'relics' to the gullible but no evidence of Moses or god.

[@nealjroberts4050]

The burnt bits are just dark rock 🤷

[@theboombody]

After 4000 years I imagine not. Not many things can leave evidence that long after. And just because the bush survived a fire doesn't mean it didn't eventually die. Every person Jesus healed in the gospels eventually died.

[@vandal280]

I loved the Godless Engineers explanation for his atheism, it was so succinct but thorough and describes my own atheism perfectly in a way that I haven't really heard. Just so well put

[@JamesRichardsPlays]

As this Dre dude keeps saying "logical"... I am reminded of Inigo Montoya and the "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

It's more of a side note, but he's a really good cadidate for telling him to pronounce "lagical", and checking where the difference is to his pronunciation of "logical"...

[@somersetcace1]

Just the question alone indicates a problem. I'm an atheist, because I don't believe in gods. That's what we call people that don't believe in gods. Why don't I believe in gods? Because I've never heard of, or thought of a god concept that was compelling enough to believe it. It's that simple.

[@soistngcatstritchfavor]

If this dark sky thing happened, it would be a historical mooring point. It'd be in EVERY calture. Not just maybe 2

[@mtahtali]

Dre dude, you don't have any clue what logic is as much as you insist that you are using logic!

[@chrishirst671]

Dre, claiming he's not doing exactly what he is doing then promptly doing the same thing over again. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results"

[@michaelmay5453]

Another thing that is pretty much in every culture is vampires. Earliest stories we know about come from ancient Egypt. Pretty much all myths are somewhat universal between cultures (because they started in one culture and were spread from there).

[@taylorlibby7642]

Because I don't believe in the supernatural, none of it. I don't believe in gods, demons, ghosts, the Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, crystal balls, or the Abominable Snowman. Next question?

[@briannelson27]

bingo. I also add all the other conspiracy theories like flat earth, all religion, mls, crypto, conservatism, etc.

[@taylorlibby7642]

​@@briannelson27Not sure I'd place conservatism as a conspiracy theory, but otherwise I agree with you.

[@briannelson27]

@@taylorlibby7642 lol, i get it. i put it there cause all the policies positions that conservatives have are provable wrong at fixing the problems that conservatives use them for. meaning they believe they are right with no evidence to back them up.

[@Nancy20012]

@@briannelson27 Not crypto in that list lol

[@briannelson27]

@@Nancy20012 See! you get it! crypto only works in the minds of people who believe it works. basically mlms for tech bros.

[@dog8398]

Probably the shittiest question in the world. One I refuse to answer because it is utterly insulting.

[@Tiny_and_Reese]

Man that ending is frustrating. He started off strong by saying I'm not going to invoke the supernatural, but then started smuggling it back in whenever he started talking about other things and I just don't think he's aware of it. Or maybe he is, as he kept on bringing up the contention that ya'll only don't believe because your worldview precludes it, which kind of insinuates he knows he's smuggling the supernatural back in and gets upset that you're picking up on it.

[@mecca777]

It’s because that’s really all he had, in the long run.

[@PhillipJermakian]

Eh, it's a problem with debates that you see the wins of the side you agree with. Like them getting to dismiss the standard that all of western society has used as a basis of justice for recorded history, eyewitness accounts, as unreliable, seems unfair. I agree it is unfair often but it also becomes impossible to even argue when you can just redefine things on the fly.

[@Tiny_and_Reese]

@@PhillipJermakian I agree with your first point but not your substantiation. Eyewitness accounts ARE unreliable and have always required other points of information in order to uphold them as valid. It doesn't matter what we used to use as evidence, when the topic of conversation was all about why we should believe now, in the era where we know why eyewitness testimony is garbage. (Group delusion, lying, actual data revealing that eye witness testimony has a high rate of false conviction, data on traumatic events resulting in misremembering information, etc.) Also, pretty sure eyewitness testimony was never the standard or the basis of our justice system. The only reason to bring up, "well we used to do it this way." is to say, yeah now we have much better ways of doing it and have found all the ways that this way of doing it was flawed and isn't something we should draw conclusions based on.

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

@@PhillipJermakian _" the standard that all of western society has used as a basis of justice for recorded history, eyewitness accounts, as unreliable, seems unfair"_ Which claims about history have they dismissed that have this basis of recorded history to back them up? Honestly, if you've seen or heard *_any_* examples in this call where they dismissed *_anything_* despite plenty of historical evidence supporting it, I want to know - but I would be _extremely_ surprised if you could point to even just one example.

[@joels5150]

The arrogance of being some guy who thinks he has better answers than all the believers who’ve come before him… FYI, for all the Christians and Muslims that call in, the second you say “I believe my holy book is 100% true”, you have flat out lost any chance of being taken seriously. Those books are full of self-contradictions, even if you assume the absolutely ludicrous claims of splitting moons and unicorns, talking snakes, and floods involving more water than exists on the Earth…

[@michaelbell3181]

You guys are awesome 😎

[@capthavic]

Simple, because I see no reason or need for a god. And all the people who claim to speak for one only reinforce my non belief.

[@borthwrenblanston6632]

OH MAN! LOL! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!! THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).

[@theboombody]

No reason for anything really. Ecclesiastes makes that clear even to believers.

[@oliviawilliams6204]

About ancient eyes witnesses of ancient miracles, we have the testimonies of Mark Antoine that he saw Julius Caesar ascend to godhood. Does he believe Julius is a god? We also testimonies with sources that Emperor Vespesian had magical healing power. Does he believe Vespesian had supernatural powers?

[@jensrogerkristoffersen5472]

What a silly question. It's because I was not exposed to brainwashing in my childhood, it's because I was taught logic, critical thinking and reasoning, it's because I've never had the need to relate to superstition. Why are you a theist? Why do you believe in an unfair and vengeful deity? Or are you cherry picking the things you like?

[@lh1673]

Good points😊, as a former believer indoctrinated from childhood i should’ve realized we church members were just cherry 🍒 picking😂

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

i am so glad my parents didnt do that to me. that way i had the ability to smell the bullsht on the biblical stories when i read them in primary school.

[@farleyxwilbur3867]

I've been an atheit for over 50 years, but the Noah myth has the ark landing on the "mountains of Ararat". Those are mostly in Turkey and are an entire mountain range. The mountain Wyatt claimed to be THE mountain is purely a geologic phenomenon.

[@benjamindover5676]

Matthew 27 51 "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom, and the earth quaked and the rocks rent. 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who slept arose, 53 and came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the Holy City and appeared unto many." Now you would think someone would have noticed and recorded it. But ,, not one word from anyone at the time. Why should anyone care what the bible has to say about anything?

[@Furry-iousNews]

44:02 _dre used confusion on the hosts_ It was super effective! Dre, buddy......what a bunch of nonsense you are spewing😂😂

[@Robbie_the_Rabbit]

The use of logic for a subject that's 100% completely illogical is fucking hilarious.

[@Furry-iousNews]

26:50 Jeeeez dre is dedicated to his "world view" Eclipses arent god, my guy. Its a COMPLETELY natutal phenomenon. YOU just wanna call it magic for some completely nonsensical reason

[@Jcs57]

I was born an atheist and after 17 years of attempted indoctrination under my parents insistence I remained an atheist. Belief in an undemonstrated unsubstantiated inter dimensional wizard living outside space and time based on a presumption introduced through a compilation of writings by bronze people and baldly asserted to be true is nonsensical and deeply flawed. The deities of longitude and latitude and they don’t even consider it for second is very telling, born in a different location and you believe in a completely different wizard. Religion destroys the ability to reason and critically question the crazy things they say and believe as many will justify slavery and murder if the wizard gives a thumbs up.

[@bryanevenor7769]

when are theists going to understand that using the bible to prove the bible is nonsensical? It's like saying "since spiderman operates in New York, therefore spiderman must necessarily exist..."

[@nealjroberts4050]

Currently going through all the comments. I commend everyone on restraint as per the usual trolls. Remember, don't feed them unless you're willing to clean up!

[@richardyoung4400]

The Almighty Supreme Creator God is necessary....because the universe at some point has a beginning ...the universe couldn't have created and developed itself by a random series of lucky chances accidents, without any ID...

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@richardyoung4400 _"the universe couldn't have created and developed itself"_ That's a baseless assertion without evidence, just like all of richard's biblical g0d assertions.

[@Seticzech]

@@richardyoung4400 "The Almighty Supreme Creator God is necessary" No. "because the universe at some point has a beginning" Evidence? Oh, you don't have any, just your ignorance and incredulity. "the universe couldn't have created and developed itself" Why not? We see universe developing all the time. So another ignorance and incredulity.

[@nealjroberts4050]

​@@richardyoung4400 The universe appears to have a beginning in that time approaches a zero value backwards according to the evidence of the Big Bang. Your claim about not creating itself makes the undemonstrated assumption that causality is entirely linear and your claim about randomness makes the undemonstrated assumption that nonrandomness requires an intelligent agency. Your post is just a bad attempt at the KCA.

[@ZeitgeistOmega]

@@richardyoung4400but that’s the thing, we ARE the result of random chance. If the variables were slightly different, life on this planet would be drastically different or wouldn’t exist at all. Open your mind and use your logical and critical thinking skills. We are the product of one possible outcome of an almost infinite amount of permutations.

[@joshsheridan9511]

So the Chinese saw the whole world turn dark ( love to know how they knew that) But the Romans, Greeks and other Mediterranean cultures failed to notice?

[@shanewilson7994]

Not only that, but on the exact day of the crucifixion, a day which (if it even happened) nobody has the date down, or probably even the year nailed down.

[@OceanusHelios]

@@shanewilson7994 And we don't even if there was a Jesus to get nailed down. We don't have that nailed down either.

[@shanewilson7994]

@@OceanusHelios you nailed it

[@kowoh]

@@shanewilson7994you wrote it before I did , credit where credit is due.

[@DJ_Sycottic]

Dre (Hi / Him) Yeah, Dre was definitely Hi

[@denisemcdougal6445]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.

[@dannymccook]

Caller has no idea what logic even is or how it works.

[@ravioli6394]

Great rapper

[@LGpi314]

Imagine a guy coming up to you saying congratulations on winning the lottery but you have to believe you won. Then saying you get the prize when you die. You'd walk away backwards trying not to make eye contact.

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

Dre: "I'm a smart guy." Me: Is he though? 😏

[@kowoh]

Turns out I’m smart because I said so , vouching for oneself doesn’t work. Anymore then I’m my own witness I’m innocent of an action.

[@misplacednewyawker]

Like most other believers, he sounds like a moron.

[@bubbercakes528]

When I used to believe I thought this “darkness” was just a feeling of doom, not a literal darkness! Like when my dad died, “there was a darkness in my world.”

[@MCDreng]

As it so often ends up being, you can have literal or metaphorical interpretations of just about any verse in the Bible depending on what needs to be true in the moment.

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

forrests reason is what a lot of us share. i am an atheist because i was never given a solid reason to accept the claim of a God existing. i am an atheist becauss thats what its called when you are not a theist. i am a born and raised atheist. to become a theist i would have to be convinced that there actually is a God. i dont care about wishful thinking. i dont care for make believing reality. there doesnt seem to be a God, so i dont believe there is. its that simple.

[@wsconsn]

Same ol’ same ol’, claims of magic with nothing to back them up.

[@MGC-XIII]

Dre is missing the point when Forrest is explaining to him why it is logical to dismiss super natural explanations based on the lack of evidence.

[@michaelcrawford3796]

Wrong understanding of the scriptures ? Dude lost his argument in first five minutes?

[@kundrie464]

I‘m atheist because there is no god.

[@theboombody]

There's also no reason to not be a nihilist. Unless it's your preference not to be one.

[@Kakker71]

I´m atheist beacause I wasn´t indoctrinated as a child. My parents are not believers, but always told me, that whatever I believed, they would always love me and be there for me. They brought me up as an empathetic and thinking person and taught me how to find answers and allways ask questions if I wanted. I might have been an annoying child at times, asking about everything, but they always took their time to explain what they could and admit when they didn´t know. I´m 53 now and I have never encountered ANYTHING that points to the existence of a god of any kind. I think I understand why people believe. It´s probably nice to think you have all the answers by pointing at a god, but I never bought that explanation and always find natural causes.

[@jaflenbond7854]

The HATERS and ENEMIES of GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND Atheists who are asserting and claiming that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist in their opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to hate Jesus Christ and reject his authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are obviously the hateful, cruel, merciless, and deceitful persons on earth who are not bothered at all and just don't care even if their cruelties, hypocrisies, treacheries, arrogance, deceits, lies, and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Trinity", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also cause the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. SUBJECTS and CITIZENS of the "KINGDOM of GOD" will LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER GOD KNOWS that all the lowly, kind, considerate, and submissive persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the lowly, kind, considerate, and submissive persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can peacefully, happily, and abundantly live and exist on earth forever and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity as the earthly subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@holgerlubotzki3469]

@@jaflenbond7854 Mukinbudin

[@jo-p5]

I am always curious about parents who state they would be supportive of their children becoming theistic or that they’d respect that belief. When any of my children posed questions about how the world works I helped them look things up, challenged misinformation, and encouraged using the null hypothesis to try to prove the other side. They are all adults now and so far none believe conspiracies or supernatural claims. All are open to evidence for things that could be true, for example life outside of Earth, where electrons go when they disappear, etc.

[@jjbud3124]

I was that questioning child. I'm now 84 years old. One of my fondest memories is my dad answering all my questions. For some reason I remember one day as he and I were driving out of the driveway in our 1940 Ford I asked him, "Daddy, what's a pioneer?" I think I was around 5 or 6 years old. He also pointed out stars, constellations, planets to me. He encouraged reading, learning. He patiently answered every question. He was brought up in a very religious household and hated and rejected it. I dabbled in going to church for a bit as a teen. He said nothing about it, never discouraged me. My siblings and I all grew up to be atheists. So are my children and grandchildren. My mom was nurturing and kind. She added the compassion and grace to our lives. She was not well educated, but my father admired her so much that he bragged about her for who she was. I am a very lucky person.

[@Kakker71]

@@jjbud3124 Sounds like you had as nice a childhood as me. We are lucky. The best gift you can give your children is your love and integrity. I have 2 children (adults 24 and 27) and my wives son (19) from earlier marriage. They are all well functioning, social, caring and knows good from bad. They are all atheists I think. I have never heard any of them talk about any god other than when we are humorous. The universe is wonderful enough without the need of invented explanations. Answer your kids when they ask, no matter what. If you know about the question, tell what you know, if not, find out together. It is important for kids to hear adults saying "I don´t know...lets find out!". Seeking knowledge side by side with kids is fantastic.

[@ScarletFox039]

There were "eye witness accounts" of Achilles helping to invade Troy in Homer's Iliad. Does that mean Achilles was real?

[@queuecee]

I actually saw him and Hector fight. There's video recordings of it.

[@jimaspinall2927]

To believe anything without evidence is by definition irrational.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Belief doesn't require evidence but can be influenced by it.

[@ZeitgeistOmega]

I’ll take it one step further and say that acting on that belief, without evidence, is irrational.

[@queuecee]

@@ZeitgeistOmega THAT is the real concern, isn't it? We all agree in the reality of our experiences. If we see something wrong, such as mass deaths, we can call it wrong. And if we see someone who's acting wrong, we can at least argue to why the harm that they are causing is wrong. But a theist can always invoke their god to justify what they do. They could commit the most horrendous acts, but we have no way to argue against their justifications. They can just proclaim, "muh gawd", and the conversation ends. You can't convince that terminating an unwanted pregnancy is not "murdering" a baby. But if their view is that their god makes a fertilized egg a human, then you can't stop them from seeing all pro-choicers as murderers.

[@ZeitgeistOmega]

@@queuecee What’s worse is that a large amount of theists don’t even realize that double standard. If they do, then they just dismiss it with rationalization akin to “the greater good” to justify it. Insane.

[@nealjroberts4050]

A summary of most of the video Caller makes claim in order to support initial claim Hosts interrupt to debunk said claim with an explanation why it's debunked Caller claims that wasn't what they meant Repeat

[@ZeitgeistOmega]

On…and on…and on, ad nauseam. That’s the baseline standard for these ignorant theists.

[@chrispysaid]

"For sure, for sure" is now the correct response to "rolltide"

[@queuecee]

For sure

[@chrispysaid]

@@queuecee for sure

[@nealjroberts4050]

Roll tide!

[@yvito125]

You have to prove the supernatural exists before it can be considered as an option. That's how you logic, bro 😮

[@jjbud3124]

I'd say it slightly differently - prove the unprovable before you can claim the unprovable to be true. You can have faith in anything, but faith doesn't count. It is a belief in the unprovable.

[@joeblow8982]

Dre is doing what the kids today call "yapping". Saying words because of how amazing they sound to him.

[@lo-kidank4040]

If the supposed character“jesus” was crucified in the evening in Jerusalem, let’s say at 6 pm…then it would have been 11pm in China…

[@norcodaev]

Oh for fucks sake🤦🏼‍♂️ I live on the west coast of Canada. Just the other day I was at the beach. It was bright and sunny until the sun went behind a really large series of dark grey clouds, and it got surprisingly dark for the mid afternoon. Add in a few decades of embellishment until it was written down, and believers REALLY wanting to prove that their imaginary friend exists…and voila, you get people believing in supernatural sky darkeners. 🙄

[@libbypowell4278]

Explain ourselves? Ok, well, we can evaluate actual evidence based on critical thinking rather than just believing what we are told by someone passing a collection plate. So, there's that.

[@rrodriguez4277]

Lovely video, godless engineer's little happy dance was fun :3

[@JohnShultz-rd1ew]

Unfortunetely Dre doesnt know what "historical" means....

[@Wh40kFinatic]

Translating Dre's definiton of Logic/Logical: Anything that supports his presupposed beliefs.

[@arthurunknown8972]

I'm recovering from amnesia. Never heard of any god or religion. What do you believe, why should I believe you & reject all other claims?

[@Trumpulator]

Why? Because of YOU, magical thinker. Because of YOU. Plus reality.

[@markeastlack4180]

Wow this kid wins the prize for the most confused and stupid caller in the history of the show

[@biedl86]

_"Mostly every Christian has the wrong understanding of scripture."_ There is only ever one true Christian, depending on which Christian you ask.

[@johnnybickle13]

What no one brought out and what completely destroys the claim of this globally aware black sky is the fact that if cultures around the world recorded this event as he said then the scholars could all pinpoint the exact date this happened. In turn having a cataloged date of the resurrection. This would be the most significant historical cataloged date in all of Christianity.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Apparently they did and that there was a solar eclipse 29CE that was total some 100 miles north of Jerusalem.

[@zensiert5941]

„gives a detailed and logical explanation of why something is just not true.“ Caller: „nah bro“

[@Pohgrey]

Eye witness testimony ALONE is not enough to get someone put in jail. It needs to be backed by evidence.

[@ichsehsanders]

Espacialy if this "Testimony" contains reports that contrdicts what we know about the world... "coming back from the Dead"

[@theboombody]

I believe a jury can vote to convict based on such testimony alone. Particularly if it's from multiple witnesses and if the jury considers the testimony to be true beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't know law very well though so I may be wrong. Remember law and common sense and logic don't always overlap.

[@Pohgrey]

@theboombody a jury CAN vote to convict, but if it's not backed by evidence and it's testimony alone, good luck. A good lawyer can make convincing counter arguments, and actual evidence (or lack thereof) can refute any amount of testimony. The presumption is of innocence until proven guilty, and if the evidence is lacking, or there's even some evidence to the contrary, it's an uphill battle.

[@theboombody]

@@Pohgrey So my statement that a jury CAN vote to convict based on testimony alone is correct, even if it's not frequently done. CAN is a word about possibility, not frequency.

[@Pohgrey]

@theboombody my point that testimony alone isn't good enough still applies. You need evidence to go with it to secure a conviction. Especially evidence that it's even possible to begin with. We don't lock people up on testimony alone unless you can demonstrate that it's at least somehow possible.

[@danielnemesio3388]

Even if his reasoning was extremely flawed, Dre was by far from the people I've seen to take part in this debate, the most respectful, patient and sincere guest to ever appear on this show and sounded like overall a decent and cool person to be around

[@klaxoncow]

It seems that they forgot about Dre. But in this particular case, this is fine.

[@darknightofthesoul7628]

How could the sky over China suddenly turn dark...during the middle of their night?

[@007Aura]

I was born this way 💜

[@LGpi314]

God made me an atheist. LOL /S

[@Fluffykeith]

Whenever a caller says "I can answer your questions better than those other guys...." ...They can't.

[@johngavin1175]

He completely failed there. It seems he is full of himself.

[@colinellicott9737]

Volcanoes have historically darkened the earth at various times throughout history. Pele rules !!!

[@Thunderbolt-9]

Right around the time it was prophesied that God would? Just as His Holy Son dies? Hard to believe it was a coincidence

[@tonyclements1147]

No, it’s perfectly normal to be a coincidence.

[@lukedeakin7124]

@@Thunderbolt-9 Can we even determine when he died? Like as I understand we barely have records of his existence. Even if it did happen around when he died, that doesn't prove anything. Coincidences *CAN* happen, like how Archduke Franz Ferdinand died, because his driver took a wrong turn and one of the people out to kill him happened to stop for lunch in the general area.

[@colinellicott9737]

@@Thunderbolt-9 LOL. A believer like you finds it hard to believe. Listen to yourself.

[@tmurphy0919]

Dre, you explained exactly why the bible should not be believed when you were talking about people interpreting scripture how they see it. When I open a current science or or math book, there is one answer to a specific question, not 45,000.

[@mrhuman4049]

"i'm a smart guy" 19:22