10 Ways MLB Players & Teams CHEAT - In Order of FAN OUTRAGE!!!

[@basedjenny7362]

It’s ridiculous that first rule even exists

[@tonymoretti2347]

Im guessing rule 10 is a old rule probably enabled to combat game fixing back in the day

[@therealfanmaster]

The main issue I have with baseball culture is the selective outrage in cheating. I personally see ball doctoring to the same way I see steroids, and yet one is clearly seen as worse than the other. It’s one thing to view Barry Bonds as cheating for taking steroid (although he already had a HOF career before he started juicing), but Gaylord Perry bragged about cheating and gets in the hall of fame. It feels like a double standard. Also, I don’t think the Astros did anything that wrong. Maybe worthy of a fine and a “don’t do this again.” But I don’t think sign stealing is or should be that big of a deal. And to be honest, it feels the Astros scandal was only a big deal because of Yankees fans copium. I get thst it is an unfair advantage, but I find messing with the field of play and A/C to be much worse cheating than sign stealing. Well that’s a but of a rant. Feel free to discredit me because I’m a stinky Mets fan below.

[@daniiii2227]

As a Yankees fan, I completely agree with everything you said. Idk why the fanbase gasses up that 2017 run so much we were not that good lol.

[@ericrakestraw664]

3:12 -- I'm sure Max Scherzer and Washington Nationals fans cared in 2015 when the batter leaned into a pitch and cost him a perfect game with two outs in the ninth inning.

[@tonygunkster]

Thank you for bringing up that trauma

[@charlesclinton3305]

As a Tigers fan growing up, Dan Dickerson regularly stated that the Twins would turn on the AC when they were at bat in the Metrodome. I'm surprised it never got talked about that much.

[@ronloomis9555]

I gave heard that also but as an engineer that worked on that system I can tell you it was capable but would have very little effect. To change the velocity it would take several minutes. That much air will not see an increase in speed. Additionally the system could not change airflow direction at all.

[@ronloomis9555]

I have heard. Typo.

[@jerseyjoe1677]

I think the first rule you discuss is in place in case a player goes back at heckling fans. Yes signing autographs is absolutely OK but it’s there in case a player starts cursing at a fan or what not.

[@Dulcimerist]

Although a guy messed with the ventilation system, the theory that it affected balls was debunked. The vents blowing into the pressurized dome were too weak.

[@somerandomguy5977]

Tucapita Marcano got banned for life while unable to play recovering from injury simply because he bet on his team. Did he really have a duty to person while he's on IR? Pretty stupid how that's a lifetime ban.

[@SconnerStudios]

Definitely a stupid rule when applied as zero tolerance. Lifetime bans for anyone who bets on their team to lose, sure. But betting on yourself winning? Unless you're conspiring with someone else who's throwing a game, I personally have zero problem with it. And betting on other teams you aren't a part of? That shouldn't even be a rule, especially when these sports betting companies are in bed with the sports leagues themselves.

[@felixorozco6514]

Steroids.......you still have to hit the ball. Bonds, McGwire both had a good eye for the ball?

[@jeremynitta1449]

Totally agree. Without steroids Bonds is still probably close to a 500 HR hitter, maybe more like high 400s with gold gloves? He’s still a lock HOF. But you juice up an average human and it’s not like they’ll magically be able to hit 400 foot homers

[@mauricesaturn3213]

As a D-Backs fan, the Astros definitely angered a lot of people, but since most of the anger came from Yankees and Dodgers fans, I was okay since I enjoyed their salt/meltdown. And I totally forgave the Astros when they ended up winning the WS again in 2022.

[@dnkmarci]

common spineless dbacks fan 💀

[@poindextertunes]

Sports writers and baseball fans in general have a huge problem with gate keeping. The systemic issues that spawns from that are pretty glaring

[@okdude941]

I personally believe that gambling on your own team should be a lifetime ban. Things can get too murky is best to nip it in the bud and make sure no one bets on the game

[@Dulcimerist]

For ball doctoring, I was hoping you'd show the clip of Twins pitcher Joe Niekro getting inspected in Anaheim in late 1987, and the nail file flying out of his pocket. It was hilarious! My got suspended for that, and got on Letterman because of the incident.

[@The-Spaghetti-Wives]

What's even worse about the Astros was the season the suspensions happened was the Covid season, an optional season for players. No one was ever really suspended.

[@anthonypang7927]

I hate intentional hbp, it shows all generations have fragile egos, punishments need to be more severe I find sticky substances and peds make mlb very phoney and hard to take seriously sometimes

[@DAILYBLUNTATHON]

When I started watching baseball the most popular players that me and fellow youths talked about were Nolan Ryan and Jose canseco and will Clark and Chris sabo. Yeah the eighties were weird people thought Chris sabo was a rock star. Dont worry about.

[@mondoseguendo6113]

My coach always encouraged me to lean into the pitch. Even in tee ball.

[@HUCY1709]

No pine tar on the bats or the sticky substance pitchers use to get more spin.

[@MGower4465]

Licorice? 😂

[@ellisblom339]

Never

[@SconnerStudios]

They should revise the HBP rule to make hitting a batter an automatic trip to second base instead of first. Manfred wants to make more RISP? Do that instead, get rid of the stupid ghost runner! Ivan Rodgriguez is the only confirmed roider though. Ortiz could be one of the number of false positives in the report (supposedly around 10% of the players listed were false positives), and Bagwell and Piazza both never had anything other than rumors. Jose Canseco said he personally injected Pudge, so as far as I'm concerned, he's the only HOF we know for a fact.

[@rslitman]

I like the HBP to 2nd base idea. This would, I assume, move any runner on 1st to 3rd, and any runners on 2nd OR 3rd to home.

[@chrislewis5069]

You can turn back towards the catcher, you just can't stick out any part of

[@big8dog887]

Seems that the level of outrage is inversely proportional to how enforceable the rule is by umpires at the moment. Things like leaning into a pitch, throwing at a batter, or the takeout slide can easily be enforced, but often aren't, so many fans aren't even aware that the rule exists. On the other hand, things like PED use and electronic sign stealing require extensive investigations to catch, so nobody is aware at the moment that it's going on, so when it is exposed, fans feel duped.

[@AdamOMcMurphy]

*stros fans are mostly to nlame for the vitriol. They still brag about winning in 2017, like they think it's legit. They embarrass their entire city and state with that stance.

[@deonlepharaoh]

I just want to be entertained so i don't care how they do it

[@truckermikemct1]

One rule change I would like to see is... No occupant of a bullpen may not enter the field of play at any time except to enter the game. This includes during skirmishes and if the benches empty during a basebrawl.

[@julianmarinbarrios]

Every member of the 2017 Astros should be barred from the HoF for life

[@Tornado1994]

Naw, the Yankees just suck. They proved in the 2024 WS that they did NOT deserve to win the 2017 Pennant. Astros were the RIGHT team to win the ALCS.