Mike Piazza's beef with Roger Clemens was so much more than the broken bat fiasco

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Күн бұрын

If you know one thing about Mike Piazza's beef with Roger Clemens, it's probably the moment in Game 2 of the 2000 World Series when Clemens threw a chunk of Piazza's broken bat right back at Piazza. That's definitely the climax of the feud, but it wasn't an isolated incident.
Clemens vs. Piazza is best understood within a few contexts: First, the surprisingly recent history of the Yankees-Mets rivalry. Second, baseball's strange, unwritten justice system wherein pitchers sometimes throw right at batters. Above all else, you need to remember the way intention and fate interacted to create that climactic moment in 2000. We saw a flurry of increasingly embarrassing homers, a beanball that led to a concussion, a possibility of "karate," and a lot of back-and-forth in the media before the bat shattered that night. And after that moment, there's a lot of unresolved tension between two baseball legends. It's pretty awkward.
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@belhariry
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@DSPHistoricalSociety
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@MrTidx90 2 ай бұрын
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@Alwaysbeclosing1774
@Alwaysbeclosing1774 2 ай бұрын
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@thesadjetfan
@thesadjetfan 2 ай бұрын
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@TG-ld8hl
@TG-ld8hl 2 ай бұрын
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@joshuaremo922
@joshuaremo922 2 ай бұрын
Pitchers who get butthurt over unwritten rules are some of the biggest divas ever
@adamkane4217
@adamkane4217 2 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly. This beef started because (checks notes) Piazza was good at hitting against Clemens. So this is all just Clemens being sensitive.
@jameskaihatu6209
@jameskaihatu6209 2 ай бұрын
"Madison Bumgarner...Mr Madison Bumgarner...please pick up the white courtesy phone for an important message..."
@evanjones593
@evanjones593 2 ай бұрын
@@jameskaihatu6209facts. Love what he did as far as production for the Giants but damn….you can’t be built like a lumberjack while being sensitive.
@dtice69
@dtice69 2 ай бұрын
@@jameskaihatu6209 nothing pissed me off more as a Giants fan than that dude getting all pissy any time someone didn't leave the batter's box going 0 to 60. There's passion, there's distaste for the flashiness (i'm no fan of pimping homers) and then there's taking out your frustrations for your crappy pitch on some perceived (but nonexistant) showboating.
@nealedavisfitness6937
@nealedavisfitness6937 2 ай бұрын
Ever!!
@brycehawes38
@brycehawes38 2 ай бұрын
Anyone else get the same T-Mobile ad 4 times?
@trippietoadie1296
@trippietoadie1296 2 ай бұрын
Yes. 5 times actually
@roman42
@roman42 2 ай бұрын
Yuhyuhyuhyuhyuhyuh
@huebus
@huebus 2 ай бұрын
Cause it's sponsored by t mobile
@hgradio1591
@hgradio1591 2 ай бұрын
8 times 😭
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@cameronholmes5590 2 ай бұрын
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@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 2 ай бұрын
Crazy that a sport that loves to bring up "integrity of the game" allows guys with maximum level pettiness to throw a ball at 95+ mph at another guy that has his number. Baseball is weird.
@mackmpls
@mackmpls 2 ай бұрын
They don’t bring up the integrity of pharmaceuticals very often.
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 2 ай бұрын
@mackmpls I find it laughable that a game that claims "integrity" has some of the most scandals in sports history lol
@hamiham32
@hamiham32 2 ай бұрын
​@slackerofhell and the sad part, is MLB wouldn't even be around anymore without the scandals. And then MLB completely roasted the players that brought it back to life. Gotta love being in power and making up your own story and history.
@alexcasterr
@alexcasterr 2 ай бұрын
@@mackmpls Hahahaha nice point
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 ай бұрын
Some of the codes are non-sensical. Maybe it's to make up for the lack of physical contact.
@leaderofnoone9087
@leaderofnoone9087 2 ай бұрын
Missing Rodger Clemens when you're trying to hit him on purpose. Is maybe the most Mets thing I've ever seen.
@bob8776
@bob8776 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think Estes was trying to hit him and missed. Clemens knew it was coming and Estes was sending the message that he knew EVERYONE expected him to bean Clemens. It was an acknowledgment that Clemens was owed one and that Estes was taking the high road.
@mfdixon1985
@mfdixon1985 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. And it happened in 2016 with Chase Utley too.
@FittedInThe798
@FittedInThe798 2 ай бұрын
Estes wasn't a real met. He wasn't there for any of it and didn't care. Al leiter would of smashed him
@MCKevin289
@MCKevin289 2 ай бұрын
As a Mets fan, I said the same thing.
@joel8692
@joel8692 2 ай бұрын
​@@FittedInThe798 Al leiter was also soft
@brycehawes38
@brycehawes38 2 ай бұрын
“Went inside against him just because knoblauch went to Texas A&M” perfectly reasonable, carry on
@kevinvilmont6061
@kevinvilmont6061 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Very telling.
@Josephmother584
@Josephmother584 2 ай бұрын
Cry more
@brycehawes38
@brycehawes38 2 ай бұрын
@@Josephmother584 dawg I would’ve done the same thing A&M is a cult idk what your point is
@Seantherightway06
@Seantherightway06 2 ай бұрын
Can’t say I blame him 🤘🏼
@brycehawes38
@brycehawes38 2 ай бұрын
@@Seantherightway06 you can get it too we don’t discriminate between Texans🟣🟡
@gmwdim
@gmwdim 2 ай бұрын
Oh man I remember when this was going down. I remember one baseball writer wrote that Shawn Estes should have been suspended...for missing a target as large as Roger Clemens's butt.
@virtsie
@virtsie 2 ай бұрын
nothing goes better with beef than some JUICE💉
@Ron743K
@Ron743K 2 ай бұрын
The roid rage is real 😂
@kevinvilmont6061
@kevinvilmont6061 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! You said what I was thinking, but I didn’t want to get dog piled by some UT fan club. Or a Yankee mob.
@ta0paipai
@ta0paipai 2 ай бұрын
On Clemens, “A bit past his prime but still a (chemically altered/roided up) force.”
@jeruffleupagus
@jeruffleupagus 2 ай бұрын
Yea the bat throwing incident def must've been roid influenced.
@Efilnikufesin76
@Efilnikufesin76 Ай бұрын
@@jeruffleupagus He was just an a hole. Roids don't make you an a hole, your personality does.
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 2 ай бұрын
2002 Yankees vs Mets game where Clemens threw behind Piazza is a forgotten moment in history people don’t remember following that broken bat
@ssoldner
@ssoldner 2 ай бұрын
I still remember the Estes HR. Missed the beanball but managed to crank out a HR. Legend stuff.
@anthonyrivera2357
@anthonyrivera2357 2 ай бұрын
2000
@davidmata4786
@davidmata4786 Ай бұрын
It's the Mets, I would say it's more like people don't care..
@littlea5111
@littlea5111 Ай бұрын
Clemens didn't throw behind Piazza , Estes threw behind Clemens
@MCKevin289
@MCKevin289 2 ай бұрын
Piazza got the last laugh in the end. He’s a hall of famer and Clemens is remembered as a juicer
@joel8692
@joel8692 2 ай бұрын
Clemens might not be in the hall of fame but most people look past that and still consider him one of the 3 best pitchers ever . A lot even think he's the best ever.
@FittedInThe798
@FittedInThe798 2 ай бұрын
@joel8692 best ever... bit of a stretch
@VibingWithVariety
@VibingWithVariety 2 ай бұрын
Your forgetting the fact the he got taken to shcool by the martinez brothers
@weirdkindofsexsymbol
@weirdkindofsexsymbol 2 ай бұрын
@@joel8692Roger Clemens, Pete Rose, and the ghost of Shoeless Joe can all hang out and cry in their beers. Of note, the latter should be in the HOF because he was genuinely duped into signing a bogus confession. The former two may have been great players, but were/are just shitty people, really. That’s how I’ll always remember them.
@ezragatton5431
@ezragatton5431 2 ай бұрын
And piazza is still out there hitting massive bombs in softball
@slightexag
@slightexag 2 ай бұрын
This whole story just shows that Piazza is a professional while Clemens is a total POS
@btk72491
@btk72491 2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget a coward. Clemens is a massive coward
@johncummings5350
@johncummings5350 Ай бұрын
​@@francus7227 THAT'S WHY he's not in the Hall of Fame
@theLoneWolfSpeaks
@theLoneWolfSpeaks Ай бұрын
@@francus7227a fool? He was acquitted by a jury. That means not guilty!!
@theLoneWolfSpeaks
@theLoneWolfSpeaks Ай бұрын
@@johncummings5350not in the HOF for NEVER testing dirty while Papi and Pudge who were dirty are in the HoF. Unfair
@anderivative
@anderivative Ай бұрын
@@theLoneWolfSpeaks who you guys talkin to?
@jag5014
@jag5014 2 ай бұрын
Clemens was a punk for hitting batters knowing that he'd never have to step in the batter's box himself in the American league
@jerryalexander8803
@jerryalexander8803 2 ай бұрын
Definitely, except for those 3 or 4 seasons he played for Houston
@ahogg5960
@ahogg5960 2 ай бұрын
That was the thing everyone said after that big Yankees/Orioles fight back in the day, when Armando Benitez nailed Tino Martinez in the back after giving up a homer to Bernie Williams. A bunch of commentators and managers all said "What might fix all this is do away with the DH. Pitcher doesn't get so brave if he has to face up and hit"
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 ай бұрын
He's a complete coward. A man of no character.
@chrisbeach423
@chrisbeach423 2 ай бұрын
Its crazy that “interleague” play wasn’t introduced until 1997?!? I remember as a kid all the interleague play started in June.. now teams play each other constantly. The MLB was slow in integrating where a team plays each other EVERY SEASON. Not every 4 seasons. Red Sox fans that wanted to watch the Cubs vs Red Sox at Wrigley Field would have to wait 8 YEARS between visits. I always thought that was the weirdest thing about Baseball.
@ezragatton5431
@ezragatton5431 2 ай бұрын
It was always a huge deal when the Yankees came to town. Had to wait years to see em and they sold out instantly
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 2 ай бұрын
Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division Beef History: Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas Beef History: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley Untitled: Reggie Miller Untitled: Ken Griffey Jr. Untitled: Carl Yastrzemski Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: Jim Kelly Collapse: Early 90s Bills Collapse: 2001 Sixers Rewinder: 2012 Olympic 100m Men’s Final Rewinder: The Catch By Willie Rewinder: Wide Right I, Wide Right II Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds breaking the respective HR record(s) Untitled: Don Nelson
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if I'd call Don Nelson "Untitled" since he won 5 as the Celtics 6th man in the late 60s/early 70s.
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 2 ай бұрын
@@Kylora2112 right because Don Nelson is remembered more for his playing career than his coaching career…..weird that he was never inducted in the hall of fame for his PLAYING career
@craigjohnston5781
@craigjohnston5781 2 ай бұрын
Did I miss part of their comment? Where did they say that he was more remembered for his playing career? They simply stated that he has, in fact, won titles. I'm not sure of the semantics of the Untitled series. It certainly would still make for an interesting episode on why he came close but never won as a coach.
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 2 ай бұрын
@@craigjohnston5781 if you see Don Nelson: Untitled…..wouldn’t they hit that part of the brain where you go “oh his coaching career”. Steve Nash won rings as an executive/front office member and still got an Untitled video for his playing career. Becky Hammon won titles and still got an Untitled video for her playing career. when you think of Don Nelson, you think of his coaching career not his backup role from 60 years ago. use COMMON SENSE. stop trying to be difficult and start an argument.
@יוסףאריהקהן
@יוסףאריהקהן 2 ай бұрын
​The only one starting an argument here is you. You need to chill. He sinply raised a point. You started freaaking out and accusing him of not using common sense.@@markjackson6431
@DaddyHackAthletics
@DaddyHackAthletics 2 ай бұрын
The Caitlin Clark - Angel Reese Beef History in 15 years is gonna go crazy
@jamesgibson3716
@jamesgibson3716 2 ай бұрын
Already calling it.. we will remember this post. Love it
@ValSempai
@ValSempai 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I dont even think its gonna take that long. I mean they did a beef history between cp and patbev and both of them still playing lol
@shawnreap
@shawnreap 2 ай бұрын
Mike's in the Hall of Fame, Clemens probably won't ever be. That's closure enough for me.
@KennethSchamehorn
@KennethSchamehorn Ай бұрын
Clemens won 2 Cy Young Awards here in Toronto in 2 years,but we still hate him.A total piece of crap.
@DGS2605
@DGS2605 2 ай бұрын
Clemens has the rings, Piazza is in the Hall. One won the battle while the other won the war.
@killemkillua
@killemkillua 2 ай бұрын
rings are worth more
@briankrosky3567
@briankrosky3567 2 ай бұрын
You’re right. Probably the one who was voted the best at his position 7 times, the most in history.
@DGS2605
@DGS2605 2 ай бұрын
@@briankrosky3567 Cy Youngs aren't everything. I'd take Pedro Martinez or Roy Halladay over Clemens any day of the week.
@briankrosky3567
@briankrosky3567 2 ай бұрын
@@DGS2605 and how many catchers would you take over piazza? That wasn’t the argument I was making
@DGS2605
@DGS2605 2 ай бұрын
@@briankrosky3567 All Piazza was missing was an arm to throw out runners. He could frame great and called a no-hitter. Not to mention his bat, of course.
@TheMan750
@TheMan750 2 ай бұрын
“This episode is sponsored by T-Mobile” NO DUH
@mcezlla8192
@mcezlla8192 2 ай бұрын
I have always had T-Mobile and these ads genuinely have me thinking about switching carriers
@dakotaboy80
@dakotaboy80 2 ай бұрын
Two words to sum up Clemens: ‘roid rage.
@mondoseguendo6113
@mondoseguendo6113 2 ай бұрын
Rogroid
@edibleapeman
@edibleapeman 2 ай бұрын
Wait, so Clemens says if he wanted to hit Piazza with the bat shard, he would have, but ALSO says that he didn't mean to hit him with the ball?? So he's accurate enough to throw a hunk of wood, but not so accurate with the ball. F you dude.
@kevinstull8552
@kevinstull8552 2 ай бұрын
He also said that he didn't know he was throwing a piece of the bat and not the ball. He's a pitcher probably from when he was a kid and he doesn't know the difference between a baseball and a bat by feel? Clemens is a f***ing liar and an addict and hopefully will never ever be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
@psymar
@psymar 2 ай бұрын
He's only accurate when he wants to hit someone.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Ай бұрын
He was like 20 ft away when he threw the broken bat.
@Dragynphyre
@Dragynphyre 2 ай бұрын
Wow. 6 unstoppable TMobile adds 1 pre roll 2 mid rolls. 6 total plus video sponsor announcement in the video. 6 exact same 15 second spots. That was annoying as hell
@CapoWhoLaughs
@CapoWhoLaughs 2 ай бұрын
I thought I was going crazy. Dumbass ads.
@Sandopolis
@Sandopolis 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah I need me some more baseball beeves.
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 ай бұрын
loooool i love saying "beeves" as a plural for beef
@Dildonion
@Dildonion 2 ай бұрын
I have been waiting years for you guys to make this video
@jeffdharrison
@jeffdharrison Ай бұрын
Thank you for reallu giving us almost no information... that was the most heart-wrenching, believalbe almost a story that's ever been
@christiancoates609
@christiancoates609 2 ай бұрын
I'd be frustrated too if every single interview people asked me about the same moment in my historical career.
@TheRenster500
@TheRenster500 2 ай бұрын
Maybe if he didn't blatantly lie about it then it would stop. "The fact of the matter is i did not throw a bat at him." Is categorically untrue.
@thewriter8762
@thewriter8762 2 ай бұрын
I mean some media was egging it on for views but he should’ve just owned up. Cuz he had two crazy instances with the same guy. After your history beaming people cuz of an arbitrary reason and saying that “oh it was an accident” twice is crazy. Especially since he pitched clean games against him before. And with no retribution, the world wants karma or drama.
@marcjohn9404
@marcjohn9404 2 ай бұрын
You can see there's a moment where Clemens realizes what he's doing, and he just kind of tosses the bat low. He looks at first like he's going to throw it as hard as he can at him, but then his body language just shifts. It's subtle, but you can see it. I think he was reacting with emotions, like when it happened, I think his instincts just kicked in, and he thought he was being attacked or something. I don't know any rational reason why he would do that. Clemens was delusional or something I think, he thought Piazza was starting with him, and that he purposely got hit in the head, so there you go.
@ILSquirtles23
@ILSquirtles23 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the steroids got to him
@Godzeller3143
@Godzeller3143 2 ай бұрын
Is Suits even that relevant to justify such prominence in T-Mobile’s advertising?
@tahnalos3677
@tahnalos3677 2 ай бұрын
Awwww... I was expecting Clara to do this beef. She's good as a beef teller.
@christopherb.8465
@christopherb.8465 2 ай бұрын
Being a Red Sox fan since the early 80s I watched Clemens & Pedro, and they were definitely both head hunters. I remember after Clemens gave up back 2 back homers he drilled John Shelby with the next pitch who charged Clemens with bat in hand, good thing catcher John Marzano was able to tackle Shelby before he reached the mound. The intentional drillings, often up high, were dangerous given how hard they threw, but the fear they instilled in the hitters worked for them.
@boomerang1137
@boomerang1137 2 ай бұрын
I haven't looked at Piazza the same since he wrote in his book that he didn't fight Clemens because he was afraid of getting his ass kicked in Yankee Stadium.
@bartsullivan4866
@bartsullivan4866 2 ай бұрын
He was playing for the METS it should have been in his contract if anyone shows you up charge the sucker.
@SoulFireCandlesNYC
@SoulFireCandlesNYC Ай бұрын
I think he was lying
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing Roger Clemens throwing the bat at Mike Piazza during Game 2 of the 2000 World Series on TV, and I thought it was the craziest thing I had ever seen. And the one question I still have is this: "Roger, why don't you just admit what you did and come clean about going after Mike?" I mean, even as a proud Yankee fan, I always shake my head and roll my eyes in disbelief every time I see that moment -- just like I did a few minutes ago!
@joesabbers2042
@joesabbers2042 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant dropping this right before the finale of the Subway Series
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 2 ай бұрын
The bat incident is the only notable thing about the 2000 World Series other than it being a subway series
@aceassn716
@aceassn716 2 ай бұрын
Piazza was stellar at the plate that series though
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 2 ай бұрын
Seems like this beef ended 20 years ago and the media just won't shut up about it
@wildcat8598
@wildcat8598 Ай бұрын
As a kid I played catcher one season in little league cause we were having trouble getting bases stolen on us (which abruptly ended when I was pulled from short to play behind the plate for my first and only time ever) and at that brief period in my childhood Mike Piazza was my favorite catcher. He played the game really well bury with the bat and glove and he came off as a class act to an naive kid who doesn’t know any better. Also there was no internet or social media so unless you had ESPN or read the newspaper you didn’t hear about this kinda off the field stuff. Just what happened during a game.
@ethang420
@ethang420 2 ай бұрын
that T-Mobile ad was annoying
@Seveneleven44
@Seveneleven44 2 ай бұрын
Piazza was 8-19, 4 HR and 22 RBI vs Clemens in his career.
@brandonbeglin2379
@brandonbeglin2379 2 ай бұрын
Man I think that Clemens THOUGHT Piazza was charging the mound, so he had the piece of bat ready, but by the time he realized he wasn't, he had already started throwing it at him.
@ValSempai
@ValSempai 2 ай бұрын
I'd believe that if piazza wasnt already on the path towards first base. If someone is going to attack the pitcher , they probably arent going to make a circle to them. itll probably be in a straight line lol
@PhantomThiefOfSports
@PhantomThiefOfSports 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy that we haven't gotten a collaspe of the 1986 Mets 🤔
@jasonquinlan1733
@jasonquinlan1733 2 ай бұрын
Probably because ESPN has already made several documentaries about that team
@psymar
@psymar 2 ай бұрын
they only do these when they have something to add.
@PhantomThiefOfSports
@PhantomThiefOfSports 2 ай бұрын
@@jasonquinlan1733 Idk if they covered the team after 1986. Like the 1988 team that fell in the NLCS, the failure of Generation K, etc.
@jasonquinlan1733
@jasonquinlan1733 2 ай бұрын
@@PhantomThiefOfSports Doc and Darrell 30 for 30 covers most of the separation, however it’s from the perspective of gooden and strawberry
@joeball13
@joeball13 2 ай бұрын
I'm so old, I remember being a kid and seeing this live. What an exciting time, every year the world series seemed like a big deal, I'm giant event you didn't want to miss each night on TV. Our parents would let us stay up late whenever it was the NBA finals of the world series, we knew it was special, I wish it was still like that. The last world series I remember feeling like a big deal was the Cubs and Indians from a few years back now. All of my co-workers were going over to my boss's house each night to watch those exciting games.
@SyndicateSuperman
@SyndicateSuperman 2 ай бұрын
God bless KZbin Premium. No ads, no irritation from anything.
@brennanbarnes7628
@brennanbarnes7628 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Wish you could have included the clip of Matt Nokes (who owned him) retaliating by throwing the ball back to Clemens that you reference early on, that moment was seared into my childhood brain as someone standing up to that clown. Zero respect for Roger.
@JoseOrozco_1
@JoseOrozco_1 2 ай бұрын
A good old re-upload, I dig it.
@NathanielJackson-ks9tl
@NathanielJackson-ks9tl 2 ай бұрын
favourite series on youtube this - need to do more uk football beef or just football beefs in general as theres a few - keane vs viera, man u ferguson vs arsenal wenger, pep vs ibra, mourinho vs wenger, keane vs haaland - or for rewind the battle of the bridge - like the amerocan sports ones (especially bball) but would be cool to have more ones for home sports
@thecheesehead5840
@thecheesehead5840 2 ай бұрын
I met Roger once, and I actually asked him about the beef. It was kinda weird to ask the legend at the source, but he was kinda coy about it. makes sense tho given that this all happened literally 20 years earlier
@Calmlysmoke420
@Calmlysmoke420 2 ай бұрын
Loved this era of baseball. Now everyone is friends like the NBA
@chrislewis5069
@chrislewis5069 2 ай бұрын
Roger was just fired up when he caught the bat and I think for once he was telling the truth. You could tell he was just amped and kind of startled by the broken about flying at him. He seemed like he was mad it wasn't the ball and just threw it in disgust.
@BlueWingedRino
@BlueWingedRino 2 ай бұрын
If he thought it was the ball why didn’t he throw it to first base? Throwing at the base runner is not normal operating procedure.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 ай бұрын
@@BlueWingedRino He didn't throw it to first base because he realized it wasn't the ball. He threw it towards the dugout, but that was where Piazza was running, and it was all in a split second. I'm a Dodger fan, and I was a kid when Piazza was with us so I root for his side in this. But I don't think Clemens meant to throw the bat at Piazza, and he knew it looked bad on him. He definitely meant to bean Piazza though, and I think he is a sack of crap.
@8beazy
@8beazy 2 ай бұрын
“Secret Base subscribers beef with T-Mobile deserves a rewind.”
@IHarleyWin
@IHarleyWin 2 ай бұрын
It’s still insane to me that it is normal for pitchers to try to hit batters…
@ValSempai
@ValSempai 2 ай бұрын
To me its crazy that pitchers even have the balls to throw the ball at someone. Thats how I know I could never play baseball because let a pitcher throw a ball at me going 90+ mph. You better knock me out because if I get up, I'm not dropping that bat when I come to the pitchers mound. If you can throw something at me, I can hit you with this bat. fair is fair to me.
@lucasbell4831
@lucasbell4831 2 ай бұрын
I had T-Mobile until my 10,000,000th time seeing the Suits ad. I now have Verizon.
@kingflumph5968
@kingflumph5968 2 ай бұрын
What baffles me even more than the antisocial behavior of professional baseball players is how many baseball fans wish they could get in a fight, but don't because they would face social consequences, so they live vicariously through demanding that baseball players fight each other
@churdle92
@churdle92 2 ай бұрын
No ones talking about Clemens still rocking the frosted tips in the 2020s
@Tr_1391
@Tr_1391 2 ай бұрын
You can clearly see Clemens wasn't even looking at Piazza when he threw the bat head.
@LadyJay114
@LadyJay114 Ай бұрын
Your videos are fantastic!
@GRice999
@GRice999 2 ай бұрын
I was at that game where Clemens beaned Piazza. I was sitting in the upper deck and even up there, the crack of the ball hitting Piazza's helmet was very LOUD!
@genemorgan736
@genemorgan736 2 ай бұрын
Is t mobile a sponsor?
@mondoseguendo6113
@mondoseguendo6113 2 ай бұрын
What makes you ask that?
@JeffSayYes
@JeffSayYes 2 ай бұрын
Im actually not that mad at Clemens here. I think he didnt mean to offend, he was just charged up
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Piazza was one of my favorite players growing up, and all I knew of Clemens was the bat incident, so I thought he was some kind of psycho. But watching this, I really think he was throwing the bat to the dugout, but Piazza was running to first base, and he almost hit him. I don't think it was intentional. But people want to believe in the drama over the mundane reality.
@michellemarty7510
@michellemarty7510 2 ай бұрын
I get the feeling Clemsons really wanted Piazza to retaliate.
@MrTimLee84
@MrTimLee84 2 ай бұрын
Seriously.....F the unwritten rules
@kevinzonck9658
@kevinzonck9658 2 ай бұрын
Mets teammates later admitted they lost respect for Piazza not charging
@lukesmialkowski7870
@lukesmialkowski7870 2 ай бұрын
Forgot about this one...Can you do A Rod vs the 2004 Redsox next?...Pleaaaase????
@williebeemin22
@williebeemin22 2 ай бұрын
They made a baseball card of Clemens hitting with a broken bat shortly after the incident. I’m proud to say I have a 1/1 printing plate of that card.
@TheLucasValone
@TheLucasValone 2 ай бұрын
Completely unrelated, but the tapered tail on Piazza's mustache is incredible
@victormorillo_006
@victormorillo_006 2 ай бұрын
Mike will never admit it, he is very smart, he has this business type look even when he played, he probably didn’t tip but studied the scouting report and asked Roger to pitch to the batter’s strenght. That all star game was the worst beating of Roger Clemen’s career. That all star game you forgot to mention that. Was in Houston, Roger Clemens had ads out was being advertised as a hero, he had a phenomenal season going for him. The fans of 30 teams and then some more were watching. It was the perfect stage to absolutely embarrass Roger Clemens. But we won’t hear this until Piazza is probably 92. It just doesn’t make sense that Clemens was that good that year except for the ASG.
@sircliffordmalcolmjac5870
@sircliffordmalcolmjac5870 2 ай бұрын
IMO, clemens shouldnt have hit him at all, even in the back or ribs!! He wasnt being disrespectful or anything. He just had a rew good games against him!! Thats not a good enough reason to hit him!! Hes just a sensitive baby!!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 2 ай бұрын
I try not to be revenge minded, but Clemens really should've gotten some sort of penance. Also, the T-mobile ad was only 2 in a row for me, but I already have that network.
@John-tx1wk
@John-tx1wk 2 ай бұрын
Well if they ever do become friends Piazza can invite Clemens to Cooperstown to see his HOF bust
@psymar
@psymar 2 ай бұрын
nah, nah, Clemens vs Piazza needs to be a joust like on American Gladiators back in the day
@Brhoward31
@Brhoward31 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know about Clemens blog, yeah Piazza should've checked him
@K_SwindleFBK
@K_SwindleFBK 2 ай бұрын
Got Damn T-Mobile I already got a phone and plan with Yall. CHILL OUT!!!
@BG-nj7kf
@BG-nj7kf Ай бұрын
Piazza wouldn't share his roid hook-up with Clemens. There, gave you the short version.
@jimithy5320
@jimithy5320 2 ай бұрын
Please do a reminder episode on the 1991 World Series game 6/7. It’s the greatest World Series ever and you guys still haven’t made one about it yet!!
@darthbauer5153
@darthbauer5153 15 күн бұрын
That teammate saying they should fight is Mike Hampton. Dude was a pit bull and had dynamite stuff during that spell of his career and was one of the best hitting pitchers of his time. He fell of a cliff after the big contract but he earned his way into receiving it for sure.
@jimmy13morrison
@jimmy13morrison 2 ай бұрын
I low key believe that if pitcher have the right to throw 100mph solid balls at batters batters should have the right to swing at pitcher if they're able to get to them
@tim9817
@tim9817 2 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget watching game 1 of the WS at my friends house, we went nuts when Clemens threw the bat at him. Clemens had so much roid rage, he acted as though piazza aimed the broken bat at him on purpose 😂
@MSD-c2g
@MSD-c2g Ай бұрын
NEVER have I been a Mets fan but for the record they showed perfect class
@GlassJ0e
@GlassJ0e Ай бұрын
Roger is that guy that you didn’t know you accidentally pissed off before he’s bright red and barking in your face. 😂
@hennylo68
@hennylo68 2 ай бұрын
I remember at this time during this beef thinking the whole time Piazza was just scared of him. But now in my 40's he was just way more mature than Clemons immature and petty ass. This from a Yankee fan.
@joel8692
@joel8692 2 ай бұрын
Piazza was definitely shook
@BeerMe1934
@BeerMe1934 2 ай бұрын
Congrats. These tiny hats at this channel made slmething about baseball somewhat interesting.
@loud_laughter
@loud_laughter 2 ай бұрын
This is why the “unwritten rules“ of baseball have value. People want to castigate the rules, but they have merit. There will never be closure because the rules were not followed.
@FrankThe77Tank
@FrankThe77Tank 2 ай бұрын
As a diehard Yankee Fan, the thinking it was the ball excuse never made sense. Whether it’s a bat or a ball, there’s no reason to throw it in that direction lol.. With that said, Clemens’ intensity is what made him great & scary. Honestly, Piazza wanted no part of Clemens..
@CaptCKernel
@CaptCKernel 2 ай бұрын
@@FrankThe77Tank lol right of it was the ball, then he's intentionally committing an error?
@somegamer7958
@somegamer7958 2 ай бұрын
Piazza was definitely the bigger man in this feud, and it sounds like he owned Clemens.
@BlueWingedRino
@BlueWingedRino 2 ай бұрын
He totally was the bigger man and I understand his reaction to the bat throwing. I would have been too stunned of the idiocy of it happening to react with violence.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 ай бұрын
I think Piazza handled it perfectly. He stepped to Clemens after it happened, and like he said, if Clemens wanted a fight, Piazza probably would have done it. But Clemens was reacting like he didn't mean it, and that defused things just enough. And from this video, I believe that Clemens really didn't mean to throw the bat at Piazza. I think he had a brain fart, fielded the bat, realized it wasn't the ball, also nearly got hit by it, and in the heat of the moment threw it towards the dugout off the field. But Piazza was running to first so it almost caught him. Clemens knew it looked bad, but he said he didn't meant it. But no one believes him. I think people want to believe that he meant to throw it. People want drama. The truth that it was an accident is too mundane.
@mainzergirl9610
@mainzergirl9610 Ай бұрын
Clemens said he didn't hit Piazza deliberately and he's never given us any reason to question his honesty 😄
@LeighMet
@LeighMet 2 ай бұрын
I think the home run off Clemens by Estes was better as well.
@liguy181
@liguy181 2 ай бұрын
I think it's more likely these two guys don't care about an incident that happened over 20 years ago, and they wouldn't even think about it if the media didn't bring it up. Just laugh at Mike Piazza's split against Roger Clemens, say Clemens had roid rage, and call it a day
@Kolasso
@Kolasso 2 ай бұрын
A beef episode between Christoph Daum and Uli Hoeneß would be interesting. It's a well known story in football Germany.
@FreeFoodforthePoor
@FreeFoodforthePoor 2 ай бұрын
“A bit” past his prime? That’s generous.
@eaniebeanie
@eaniebeanie 2 ай бұрын
"I would never throw at someone and risk their livelihood" "If I wanted to hit him with that bat, I would have hit him with that bat" Known ball thrower says ball was misthrown, but bat was perfectly thrown, makes sense
@SlugCult718
@SlugCult718 18 күн бұрын
Clemens actually did bat in Shea Stadium against the Mets, and pitcher Sean Estes threw at Clemens but missed him, throwing it behind Clemens, waist high instead. They missed their chance as they didn't attempt to bean him again that day. I'm a Yankee fan, and I can honestly say that I was perplexed by Clemens throwing the bat. Clemens was a strange case because although he was ON the Yankees, he never truly WAS a Yankee. It's kinda hard to explain. Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, they WERE Yankees. Guys like David Justice was ON the Yankees, but he never truly WAS a Yankee. Anyway, that's how I personally viewed Clemens.
@rodneycooperjr3223
@rodneycooperjr3223 2 ай бұрын
If I were Clemens, whether I meant to do it or not, I would just say... "Look, I'm a Major League pitcher, which means I made a living by throwing things accurately. If I wanted to hit him, he would have been hit."
@Scrimshaw_DuBois42
@Scrimshaw_DuBois42 2 ай бұрын
MLB should invite them to the next celebrity softball game, Piazza on the NL and Clemens on the AL
@DavidWRX
@DavidWRX Ай бұрын
Need to make a Marlin’s beefing with Ronald Acuna Jr video.
@jbryant5253
@jbryant5253 2 ай бұрын
🙏😭 What is up with the T-Mobile ads?
@MrJ1GS4W
@MrJ1GS4W 2 ай бұрын
Clemens wearing an NYPD hat *screams* bootlicking narc.
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 ай бұрын
NYC has to be a fascist's paradise, or else the people would eat each other. Same with Los Angeles, and every major city.
@amo77
@amo77 Ай бұрын
Mets fan here. Clemons definitely wasn’t past his prime. Remember, his best years were towards the beginning and end of his career.
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