10 Ways They Transition From The KJV - Dr Phil Stringer - KJBRC Regional Conference 2023

In the final message of our 2023 Regional Conference in Plant City, FL, Dr Stringer tells us about ten ways the enemies of the King James Bible attempt to transition your church away from the translation.
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[@solascripturamjc9681]

The Lord Jesus said His people hear His voice and won't listen to another. Praise God!

[@theprisonersprogress]

So thankful to be able to hold the WORDS of God in my hands

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

I was a 15yr old kid in a small Kansas farm community. Never had any problem reading and understanding the kjv

[@Bluevulcan1881]

What do you mean “the” KJV? 1611 or 1769? They aren’t the same. Deuteronomy 26:1 - “which the Lord giueth” vs. “which the LORD thy God giveth” Joshua 13:29 - “tribe of Manasseh, by” vs. “tribe of the children of Manasseh by” Ruth 3:15 - “he went into the citie” vs. “she went into the city” Psalm 69:32 - “seeke good” vs. “seek God” Jeremiah 49:1 - “inherit God” vs. “inherit Gad” Matthew 16:16 - “Thou art Christ” vs. “Thou art the Christ” Mark 10:18 - “There is no man good” vs. “there is none good” (note that now “there is” is marked as being added by the translators for clarity) 1 Corinthians 4:9 - “approued to death” vs. “appointed to death” Numbers 6: 14 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: one lamb without blemish 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: one ram without blemish Ezekiel 24: 7 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: poured it upon the ground 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: poured it not upon the ground John 15: 20 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than the Lord. 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than his lord.

[@Bluevulcan1881]

What do you mean “the” KJV? 1611 or 1769? They aren’t the same. Deuteronomy 26:1 - “which the Lord giueth” vs. “which the LORD thy God giveth” Joshua 13:29 - “tribe of Manasseh, by” vs. “tribe of the children of Manasseh by” Ruth 3:15 - “he went into the citie” vs. “she went into the city” Psalm 69:32 - “seeke good” vs. “seek God” Jeremiah 49:1 - “inherit God” vs. “inherit Gad” Matthew 16:16 - “Thou art Christ” vs. “Thou art the Christ” Mark 10:18 - “There is no man good” vs. “there is none good” (note that now “there is” is marked as being added by the translators for clarity) 1 Corinthians 4:9 - “approued to death” vs. “appointed to death” Numbers 6: 14 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: one lamb without blemish 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: one ram without blemish Ezekiel 24: 7 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: poured it upon the ground 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: poured it not upon the ground John 15: 20 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than the Lord. 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than his lord.

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

@@Bluevulcan1881 do you regularly read the 1611 or the 1769 kjv?

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

@@Bluevulcan1881 Did know that they had to use letter blocks and then put it aligned properly, then put paper, also they had to put the letter backwards, and then print it for the whole Bible? I have copied out the Bible, I had missing letters, words, or stuff skipped. Its not easy, thank God for the modern technology where we can have better ways of printing errors annualed.

[@nohandle257]

Dr. Stringer, Thank you for all you do. The KJBRC helped me to escape the modern 'bibles' years ago. I was intrigued when I heard you mention on one of these recent videos your seminar on Calvinism. So I looked it up on you tube and now have listened to all 14 sessions. Tremendous! I and those I fellowship with are against Calvinism but now I have so much better of an understanding of the problem. I'm sharing your series with those I know.

[@preacherchrischristian]

This is a fight I've been waging for thirty seven years since I first started preaching. Thank you for the new to me ammunition your organization and videos have given me.

[@Christ-is-the-Lord33]

Brother please share some of the best resources that you have found. I am KJV Bible believer but new to this issue and have been getting attacked on all sides for my stance on this.only been studying this topic for about 6-8 months

[@preacherchrischristian]

@@Christ-is-the-Lord33 I'm afraid that I have no kind of books I can remember the names of to tell you, however the King James Bible Research Council is a good group to contact. They have a website and they have a KZbin channel.

[@preacherchrischristian]

Sorry didn't have my glasses on. Thought you were speaking directly to me.

[@Christ-is-the-Lord33]

@@preacherchrischristian I was haha

[@preacherchrischristian]

@@Christ-is-the-Lord33 OK. You have to dig to find it but there is some pretty good stuff on line. Unfortunately, there's a lot more attacking the King James. You just have to filter through the garbage. I would contact these folks at KJRC directly if I were wanting books or something.

[@janetagee2363]

I will never stop reading and learning and listening to the King James Bible. How else would I have been saved by grace.

[@skjones91199]

Dr. Stringer, you hit a nerve with the Calvinists and critical text crowd. They are out in force with the usual debates and vain jangling. Bless you and your ministry! If you are back in the Indy area I would love to hear you preach.

[@toshamccarty5115]

Thank you Lord! God has not left himself without a voice to today's needy generations. The healing water of the word maybe muddied by some that ought to know better, yet God is faithful to even heal the water for thirsty souls that seek him. I saw that video series on KZbin from that time in the Philippines on the Dangers of Calvinism, and it was an informative blessing to me too. So glad to hear God is still using it to bless and help others around the world. (singing) Little is much when God is in it. Labor not for wealth or fame. There's a crown, and you can win it, if you'll go in Jesus name. God bless you Brother Stringer may God continue to use you and others at the KJBRC and such to help others get rooted and grounded in the authoritative Word of God. In Jesus name, Amen.

[@jeremsgarage]

I have the book by Farstad and paused the video. Went to my bookshelf, grabbed the book, opened to page 111 and it does say that. "On every page of the NKJV New Testament the studious reader will find three different textual views represented." There are then three points more fleshed out than here, but for brevity. 1. TR, 2 NU(Critical text) 3. M for Majority Text.

[@capnsalty0200]

Thank you Dr. Phil for your encouragement may God bless you and Cindy.

[@loretoespinol3974]

Praise God! Thank you Dr. Phil!

[@BryanBrandoBolondrob4]

Amen! How i wish we can have this kind of conference in our province.

[@truthreigns7]

If the people would allow the Holy Spirit to teach them God's Word then they will understand it. So them saying they cannot understand the King James Bible, tells me they are not listening to The Holy Spirit.

[@EdwinDekker71]

I'm Dutch and find the KJV easier to read than the Statenvertaling, the Dutch TR equivalent. It is the word of God in English. Sadly the local "churches" refuse to listen to any information regarding the bible version issue.

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

I agree, a lot of people just refuse to listen.

[@truthreigns7]

24:30 when he said what those people said (they used to be one of us) reminded me of this verse 1 John 2:19 "19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."

[@yours2injesus2]

AMEN

[@johnmcdonald4553]

I was skeptical of modern Bible versions before I ever heard of being KJV only. It's called knowing the voice of the shepherd.

[@jodysbamsystem1676]

Love it!

[@ChurchPhone1769]

Amen!!!

[@richardadams974]

Thanks

[@skjones91199]

I've seen this kind of trickery done in churches where the pastor wanted people on his side. The difference was these were very liberal pastors trying to manipulate a conservative congregation. Now we definitely have wolves and sheep's clothing.

[@caleb11b]

I've known of someone who personally didn't like the KJV but promoted and read from The Message.

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

I've been reading, studying and teaching from the kjv for 42yrs. Tried a cou0le of different other English translations that never really resonated to me as God's Word.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

They may be able to pull a church away from the Bible. But they won't be able to pull me away from the Bible. Folks if your church starts abandoning the Bible, that means it's time for you to start abandoning your church.

[@oshea2300]

That means it's time to try to vote your pastor out... And do it the right way.

[@jamessheffield4173]

My experience: I gave my two boys NIV’s to read. They didn't like it, I took them to an old poorly educated woman who worked for the Volunteers of America. She taught them from the AV and they loved it. To this day they won't use any other Bible.

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

I had a NIV as a kid, ESV from the youth pastor, barely read it, now after years, I finally had a Bible I actually read. Amen.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

This is why I refuse to attend a Bible college. Education means nothing to me. Why go to Bible college when you can just get a Bible and read it at home.

[@randyd9805]

God led me many years ago after I got saved in 1977 and veered away from the KJV for a short time. I bought an RSV and a NASB. I THOUGHT it might help me understand the Bible better. IT DID NOT HELP AT ALL. It did not take me long at all to KNOW something was wrong, especially with the RSV. Any spiritually minded Christian can do a comparison of them for themselves and come to the same conclusion I did in the 70's. They are NOT good or accurate translations but do in fact change doctrine by changing MANY words and leaving out whole verses in some cases. If you can live with that go ahead. I will stick with the KJV that was used to bring me to saving faith on April 3, 1977. There will NEVER be a replacement for the old KJV for me. It's a done deal. The Bible is the only book that only God's Spirit can give you a true understanding of. Without Him enlightening you and opening your understanding you will NEVER understand the word of God!

[@coryanderson5210]

Praise the Lord! I concluded and am persuaded the same. The Spirit will lead us to all truth, but we have to humble ourselves and seek Him and His will. The reason most people don’t understand it is because they aren’t saved! Jesus gives us spiritual understanding! I only had a NKJV when I trusted the Lord and the next day, without truly understanding why, I downloaded a free KJV pdf on my computer and began reading that. Then found a little KJV bible without references or notes/margins and began to study His word. It is incredible how alive and clear the Lord can make His word.

[@vusumzingceke6518]

Εύχαριστω πολυ

[@kjbrc]

Παρακαλώ!

[@dennishagans6339]

I just got the LSB and as usual they claim it is more accurate, so I went to one of my go to scriptures, 1 Sam 17:50 David kills Goliath 2 Sam 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath ! Chron 20:5 Elhanan killed the brother of Goliath This is just one, and they still have not fixed it, oh wait, they can't fix it because that is the way it is in their Alexandrian texts.

[@uthyrgreywick5702]

As a KJV almost only, I do consult other versions but only those which predate Westcott and Hort, I asked myself the question "who owns the version?" and that settled the issue for me. NO ONE owns God's Word and He has preserved it. In my opinion, the rest are money making schemes, and that's one reason a new version has to come out every decade or so.

[@Bluevulcan1881]

What do you mean “the” KJV? 1611 or 1769? They aren’t the same. Deuteronomy 26:1 - “which the Lord giueth” vs. “which the LORD thy God giveth” Joshua 13:29 - “tribe of Manasseh, by” vs. “tribe of the children of Manasseh by” Ruth 3:15 - “he went into the citie” vs. “she went into the city” Psalm 69:32 - “seeke good” vs. “seek God” Jeremiah 49:1 - “inherit God” vs. “inherit Gad” Matthew 16:16 - “Thou art Christ” vs. “Thou art the Christ” Mark 10:18 - “There is no man good” vs. “there is none good” (note that now “there is” is marked as being added by the translators for clarity) 1 Corinthians 4:9 - “approued to death” vs. “appointed to death” Numbers 6: 14 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: one lamb without blemish 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: one ram without blemish Ezekiel 24: 7 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: poured it upon the ground 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: poured it not upon the ground John 15: 20 1611 to 1768 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than the Lord. 1769 to 2020 KJV Bibles: The servant is not greater than his lord. The KJV needs to be recycled into a better Bible.

[@kathy-ro6es]

Thank you for your encouraging message. Took me awhile to get the joke at the end, but wow it packs a punch. I hope "all" people get it, and by all I mean all....57:07

[@rhysskollen6919]

Love the King James Bible, believe it's the divinely inspired and preserved Word of God. Just one question... why all the hate for calvinism? I mean sure Johnny C was cold and distant, and in general allowed way too much aberrant theology to pass through his camp at Geneva, but I've heard this bible corruption spiel from arminians and Calvinists in equal measure. Is there something I'm missing? (Dont quote tulip at me ok, John C didn't even write that)

[@chosenonebygod]

There is nothing wrong with being "divisive." Jesus said 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (Luke 12:50-53 KJB)

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

The NKJV changed heretic to divise person and would make Jesus to be avoided.

[@joshuaa3075]

The pastors we have gone to talk with about this were upset we brought it up and basically just told us we were wrong. They didn't want to discuss anything. So, it sounds like they received the transition training.

[@joshuaa3075]

Does anyone have info on Dallas Seminary transition training away from KJV? I've run across at least two graduates that now are in charge one of which has asked other pastors to preach from the NLT. The other one is a mess in general and was removed from a large church.

[@randywheeler3914]

2nd Timothy 2:14

[@treybarnes5549]

I wasn't KJVO until I carefully read the ESV for three years. Everyone kept telling me how accurate and wonderful it was. After reading it, I am now KJVO and call the ESV the Extremely Sloppy Version. The NIV was just silly and it was okay to smile at the people who had them under their arms at church (Usually middle aged woman with coloring their hair)... People with the ESV? I actually want to question them.

[@FrankPCarpi]

I wish that my pastor would be a KJV Bible preacher. Unfortunately he favors the ESV.

[@biblebeliever2795]

Have you thought about leaving that church? You should desire a church that is holding to the true word of God. Also if your Pastor uses the ESV, watch out, he may be a Calvinist.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Get out of that church now! God's word says have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.

[@FrankPCarpi]

​@@Mr-pn2ehthe only pastor I know that preaches KJV only has a bad habit of asking "amen?" every two minutes. First of all Amen means that you agree, it's not a question. Second, why does he need constant affirmation from the congregation? He should be sure enough about God's word that he can teach it without needing anyone's approval. How can I know who teaches the KJV without trying out different churches?

[@ChurchPhone1769]

​@@FrankPCarpi Haha! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

I saw one KJV church in my area, sadly they are doctrinally wrong, and they don't actually believe translations are inspired.

[@johnbates9946]

Pretty sure he’s talking bout Bryan Samms. I saw his video on this and it’s infuriating to watch how sneaky he is with the transition with his church

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

Interesting.

[@Brandaniron]

I have been so blessed to take part in a week long seminar by Dr. DA Waite many years ago. I had never heard of Dean Burgon. The Revision Revised is still the best book I have in my library on the King James Bible. How can I hear your Calvinism lectures? Thank you !

[@skjones91199]

You can actually find them on KZbin! Just search for Phil stringer Calvinism.

[@Brandaniron]

@@skjones91199 thank you !

[@jamesers99]

They're easily refuted.

[@John3.36]

Falling away must happen. This is what it was like before the flood too. What bible colleges would you recommend?

[@Mr-pn2eh]

None. The Bible is all you need to go to. I never set foot in a Bible college. I read the Bible in the comfort of my own home. Im able to understand it just fine. If you have trouble understanding the Bible, just pray and Ask God for understanding. If you Ask God for understanding, He will give you understanding. It's not going to be instantaneous but you will get there.

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

@@Mr-pn2eh Amen,if Timonthy could read it. So can I and as a child hath known the holy scriptures.

[@alwentzel4776]

When you said all means these over here you qualified your statement. HaHa You better look closer and see what or who the all is speaking of. Thanks for the info on God's word. I would like to see you debate James White. That would be interesting.

[@truthreigns7]

29:50 and a little later, what it seems to me is he is describing a church with confusion. What does God's Word say about confusion? 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

[@Imsaved777]

Question, does he wax his head before these speeches?

[@dennisatkins9837]

Great video! Amen! Do you have a link to the Calvinism lesson?

[@randyd9805]

It's not a "lesson" but a lengthy series of 14 messages. Here it is if you are interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoLIhWqdps5rrrs

[@dennisatkins9837]

@@randyd9805 Thank you.

[@maryseaman312]

@@randyd9805 I found every message to be informative and encouraging. Thank you for finding the link.

[@maryseaman312]

@@dennisatkins9837 Every message will bless your heart and equip you to understand Calvinism with all of its dirty, underhanded, illogical stands. Phil Stringer is a very good teacher.

[@terencealbertmcbain8041]

Dr. Stringer you are blocking your mic I am unable to hear you.

[@n9wff]

One woman I tried to address got very angry at me BEFORE I even got to the KJV/modern Bible controversy. When you hit a nerve...

[@GodisGracious1031Ministries]

Amen, barely hear sermons against the sodomites.

[@joshuaa3075]

Partial list of points. 9:00 lie to the pulpit committee that you'll use the KJV 13:45 KJV is just not readable / cliché 18:36 Use other versions lightly, one here or there until folks get used to it 18:54 never ever ever discuss the qualifications or the principles of these translations. Never discuss the text they are based on, never discuss who translated them or organizations owns them or that paid to produce them. 19:12 Bought the Book, "The Making of the New King James Bible" stated on page 111 Farstad, the editor of the New King James Bible stated that you'll find the critical text on every page.

[@JOHNch4.v.v.7to10]

Dr. Stringer, could you please provide one verse from the KJV where Jesus, or Paul, etc. instruct bishops, or deacons, or fathers and mothers to send their young adults away from the local church to a money-grubbing "Bible College"? Your fight, defending the KJV is commendable, but the doctrine of weakening the local church by supporting extra-biblical, falsely socalled Bible colleges is the crux of the problem.

[@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks]

I disagree with Stringer calling his friend a brother who doesn’t believe the KJV.

[@CalebDaniel-wl9hv]

Compare the KJV to the Geneva Bible in these verses: Romans 9:5, KJV is less clear on Christ’s deity. 2 Peter 1:1, KJV mistranslates the verse, and once again is less clear. Revelation 16:5, KJV has a reading almost nobody had seen before. It’s not perfect, not even close.

[@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks]

@@CalebDaniel-wl9hv So you’re saying the KJV movement wasn’t from God? It’s the most bought translation ever. I guess God forgot to make the Geneva Bible his perfect translation according to you. Laughable! No sir! You’ll never convince me with your satanic views. I have God’s perfect translation, the KJV

[@CalebDaniel-wl9hv]

@@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks So I must do the work for you. Very well. 2 Peter 1:1- Geneva\ Simon Peter a servant and an Apostle of Jesus Christ, to you which have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ KJV\ Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ The KJV has obscured a reference to the deity of Christ. Geneva did it right. Romans 9:5- Geneva\ Of whom are the fathers, and of whom concerning the flesh, Christ came, who is God over all, blessed forever, Amen. KJV\ Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Same thing, different verse. Geneva is clear, KJV is ambiguous. Revelation 16:5- Geneva\ And I heard the Angel of the waters say, Lord, thou art just, which art, and which wast: and Holy, because thou hast judged these things. KJV\ And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. The Geneva agrees with most Greek texts and other English versions in calling God “Holy”. The KJV reading does not do this. Why should we accept the KJV as perfect when it’s not?

[@carlgobelman]

Dispensationalism is a modern imposition upon the text of Scripture.

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

Funny, so is calvinism

[@igregmart]

The KJV is the Holy Bible for all English speaking people. Amen. Great youtubes on this subject. I have no interest in the modern per-versions. However, I disagree with Dr. Stringer on "Calvinism." It is absolutely Biblical !!

[@jamesers99]

If you watch his 14-part series on Calvinism, you'll see that he is easily refuted. It just made me a stronger Calvinist.

[@davidchupp4460]

It’s demonic. Calvinism is false.

[@mgig7779]

The KJV doezn't teach being saved while still in sin.

[@EdwinDekker71]

False. Romans 5:8 KJV - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

[@michaelhummel4994]

Download and compare several different translations of the Bible using "Blue letter Bible" (or others) and compare the KJV to others. They all say the exact same thing AND there is ALWAYS the Holy Spirit that is with us who will not allow us to be lead astray.

[@toshamccarty5115]

The Holy Spirit works as a guide to lead us into all truth, yet if you explore other venues of thoughts and teachings that are contrary or ever so subtle in subverting from Scriptures and their meanings, don't assume that He's going to step in like a mighty avenger to haul you back or eradicate it from your life. He will continue to speak the word of truth to you as you've exposed or will expose yourself to it in reading, meditating on it, and recalling it, but the will of choice is still yours. You are a living sacrifice unto God; your faith is the fire you feed and keep it burning bright. The Lord certainly does all his part in the relationship but you must meet him there at least. The attitude you have denotes the comfort you draw and enjoy. The word of God is good for your and health for soul. You need clean provender to chew; not processed food.

[@EdwinDekker71]

Compare Mark 9: 44 KJV vs NIV. Oops...

[@carlgobelman]

Covenant Theology is simply Biblical Christianity.

[@koosvanzyl2605]

It is so amazing that all these learned people have the best Bible (KJV) available and still criticize Calvinism. Is it pure laziness or just a case of there is none as blind as those who do not want to see? Makes me think of the Rapture brigade.

[@carlgobelman]

Reformed Theology is simply Biblical Christianity.

[@recoveringknowitall1534]

So, brother. Would you say any Christian who is not in line with reformed or Calvinist theology is not Truly a christian?

[@carlgobelman]

Calvinism is simply Biblical Christianity.

[@skjones91199]

Nice shot, troll. If you listen to Doctor stringer's lectures on Calvinism you might learn something!

[@carlgobelman]

@@skjones91199 learn what? That's he's wrong?

[@John3.36]

Scripture from God: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 KJV Theology from Men: "For God so loved the Elect, that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever was unconditionally elected before the foundation of the world should not perish but have eternal life, for God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, and in order that the Elect might be saved through him." - John (Owen) 3:16

[@carlgobelman]

@user-ii8lj8ny6y define "world" in that verse. John uses "world" in at least three different senses, so give me the sense. Also, please consult the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 1:4 or Romans 9:18. Then consult John again when records Jesus saying that He lays down His life for the sheep the Father has given to Him. He knows them by name, they hear His voice and follow Him. Read all of Scripture, not just one verse into which you read in your own theology. Corollary: If Jesus died for the sins of the world ("world" meaning every man, woman, and child who has ever lived, these sense presumably you read into John 3:16) then why aren't you a universalist? Jesus said in John 19:30 it is finished. If you take world to mean literally everyone who has ever lived, then their sins are all paid for. If God sends anyone to hell, how do you avoid "double jeopardy?" If you want theology of men, look in the mirror.

[@jamesers99]

​@@skjones91199I watched 11 of the 14 parts (couldn't take anymore of the horrible exegesis) and he can be easily refuted.