10 WORST Decisions Made By Console Makers

[@gameranxTV]

We finally got to talk about the Phillips CD-i!

[@xenobestx8423]

gameranx Nice.

[@KaioButStupid]

Ok

[@coolcolegaming555]

gameranx are you gonna do a resident evil 2 before you buy.

[@JJ-Smiles-86]

You forgot the decision of shutting down the Dreamcast.

[@medievalshadows2836]

@gameranx i dare you to do a resident evil 2 before you buy

[@nickhoare1570]

lol that 2009 US internet speed is my current 2019 Australian internet speed

[@InsaneDust]

Hahahaha I know right

[@mattyj_]

Mine is worse 2mb/s squad because Australia is fun

[@AaronStichter]

It is still my US internet lol. I feel your pain

[@jackbunton9424]

NBN gang 🙃

[@robertomorales566]

If it makes you feel better, being Military I’ve been to Korea and Dubai where they have blazing fast internet but we get shafted by paying $150 US for *up to 10mbs

[@Gyushinoo]

#1: *PAID ONLINE*

[@Tibovl]

Yes! Why the fuck is that not in the list?

[@nathanielenochs1843]

#2: PAY 2 WIN MECHANICS IN ONLINE MULTIPLAYER GAMES!!!!! Oh wait. That's just EA, Activision, Ubisoft, KONAMI, and Bethesda (Recently)

[@Gyushinoo]

Nathaniel Enochs anthem and bfv aren’t exactly looking pay to win so +1 for ea but they’re not really good games either so -1

[@epicgamer2670]

@@Gyushinoo anthem hasn't had anything released about it yet. Could still be a mess

[@VoidToto]

Blame Microsoft

[@Viktoria_Thaelin]

3:03 remember when everybody was up in arms about Facebook snooping on you? And then all those same people buy an Alexa

[@Redslayer0908]

The worst console decision is that you need to pay to play online

[@kstanni87]

It started during the late end years of ps3. But the X-BOX and PC Steam did it way before sony did.

[@joshpierce746]

kstanni87 you don’t need to pay for online on steam

[@xitsjinxbtwx]

You're paying for a service. That's how it works

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

@@xitsjinxbtwx yeah but you are paying for a service that doesn't need to be paid for Seriously, with PC you only have to own the game and pay for WiFi itself, you don't have to get a subscription service to use the WiFi capabilities that came with the device

[@SnailHatan]

@@xitsjinxbtwx No, that’s how buying the game works. Online and season passes are bullshit. Either include those excessive costs in the cost of the game, or don’t charge for it at all. I’m already paying up the ass for internet. I don’t need to pay to use what I’ve already fuckin paid for.

[@datfurrylemon]

Worst decision: content that was supposed to be in the game disguised as dlc

[@scottrich976]

Most new ones then ?

[@Killer3GS]

And how is that related to console MAKERS again?

[@datfurrylemon]

@@Killer3GS yeah your right i just hate it

[@Killer3GS]

@@datfurrylemon We all do

[@desox123]

So basically current generation?

[@WitheredFreddo]

*When the xbox one was Online only*

[@christobanistan8887]

That should have been #1, easily, and Microsoft's incredibly slow reaction to it in the several days following the XBox One announcement. It literally lost this generation of the console wars for them after they spent so many years clawing the market away from Sony. Of course by shifting their focus back to the PC, they made an equally brilliant decision, as the PC is now dominating the gaming market, rendering the console market increasingly irrelevant. They used their built in advantage to great effect! That move earned them lots of loyalty points from gamers who refuse to abandon their extremely optimized platform, especially after Steam's pitiful effort to draw gamers away emphasized how well supported gaming is on Windows.

[@deformedalbinogamingcat5854]

I feel I’ve seen you on Giofilms channel before....

[@paghahanapngkaluluwa7432]

lol that was a thing???

[@xero1782]

@@christobanistan8887 pc in general is better. You don't have to pay for online like you do with PlayStation or xbox

[@ChuckFinley33]

Yeah that was pretty bad. I remember when they said that at e3 along with the announcement of the Xbox one. One of the bigger reasons why I chose the ps4

[@johnnyjay6959]

PS4 no backward compatibility

[@Shorty15c4007]

PS3s and PS2s are dirt cheap. Most of us don't care. Better to say PS4 doesnt allow you to transfer and save MP3s in the HDD.

[@tobsmonster2]

@UberTech Damage control more please. I'm not yet convinced.

[@desox123]

UberTech Speak for yourself everyone cares maybe not you even This channel has videos on it lmao

[@Shorty15c4007]

@@desox123 Not really, the majority doesnt care about reverse compatibility. If they did, then the PS3 nor the PS4 would sell as well.

[@evaneleck2232]

@@Shorty15c4007 I really wanted ps3 games on my ps4 but I guess not everybody wants that. 😢

[@Nova3482]

1. Paying for Online Multiplayer

[@azulaquaza4916]

Paying for Online means more better and secure servers that's why PS went with it.

[@milosm9280]

@@azulaquaza4916 Servers are owned by people who created the game.

[@milosm9280]

@@azulaquaza4916 PS went with it because of money.

[@azulaquaza4916]

@@milosm9280 What are you talking about? Those are matchmaking servers which are focused on creating matches. To have the ability to connect with other players around the world is Xbox live and PlayStation networks servers. They do need to pay people to watch those servers and maintain it, and constantly upgrade it which is where the money comes into play. Why use the money from yourself which would be a loss of profit when something can pay for itself and you make a small profit of it?

[@DatGrunt]

@@azulaquaza4916 Console manufacturers get a cut from every single game and micro-transactions sold for/on their system. They already get paid. The extra fee they charge you is there simply to get more money out of you. The servers you play on are provided by the game developer/publisher and not the consume manufacturer. Steam has more features, has better security, and it's free. Why can't Sony and MS do the same ting? They charge you because you don't have a choice. Not to give you a better experience.

[@bollocks3168]

It’s 2019 and i’m just finding out there’s a slim version of the wii😂😂😂

[@mackjones7688]

But you're Gary Busey... aren't you just finishing getting the fire stick and Roku working?

[@NespeCoaching]

It's 2020 and I'm just finding out, but honestly why did anyone need a Wii mini? Unless you had no internet connection or no interest in using it for gaming, why get a Wii mini? The regular Wii was tiny anyway

[@la4Games]

Me too. I am just know right now from this video 😂😂

[@popixel]

The Wii Mini was trash.

[@DunCcanST4R]

There were so many things on here that i had never heard of before 😂

[@connorhandforth814]

Paying subscriptions to play with your friends after spending £300+ on hardware and games...

[@xXpr1son3rXx]

Honestly, from my perspective, we should be happy to do that. If we pay for their online service, then it directly effects the quality of said online service. Which is why Xbox live was so much better than PS up until a few years ago and why up until last year Nintendo hasnt improved on theirs. Here's to hoping Nintendo makes their service better now.

[@thearousedeunuch]

@@xXpr1son3rXx Their profit margin should take server maintenance into consideration, given the amount of money they make.

[@LaMelo-]

pc does not have that. which makes me love and play on pc.

[@DatGrunt]

@@xXpr1son3rXx PC has free online and it's miles better than what consoles have. Xbox Live was simply better because it already existed prior to PSN and Microsoft had a lot more experience.

[@NutiuR]

This is one reason I switched to pc

[@zgarner2]

PSP not supporting regular micro SD cards and making their memory sticks absurdly expensive.

[@DayVeeBoi]

And then again on the Vita....

[@mechamania]

Yeah, but PSP has an easy work-around, whereas, with the Vita, despite having “not supported it,” for well over a year, they continue making _mandatory_ system software (if you wanna use your digital games) updates that do one thing: crack down on modding a system in which they have ZERO interest - and they seemingly never did, except when designing that beast.

[@aviatorsdream4686]

That was the Vita... the PSP didn't use common storage media... but it wasn't proprietary. It used Memory Stick Duo and later Micro. Those both were used in a number of Sony Cameras, TVs and Walkmans. The Vita however has it's own media that's very expensive.

[@supahtyp]

Which wasn't a surprise, because Sony has been doing this shit since their very first console.

[@ShinkuGouki]

2:45 He slapped the crap out of that poor kid 🤣🤣🤣

[@nickmcmillan4514]

When Sony stop doing backwards compatibility

[@darkwzrd4]

Hopefully ps5 will have it.

[@DVictor23]

Bad for us, good for them... Just look at people buying any old game for full price. Nostalgia sells.

[@freewings2188]

@@DVictor23 or people with pc getting them for free

[@Charles-hy6gp]

@@darkwzrd4 Because you people complained about PS3 launch price, which the first 2 models did have backward compatibility and was removed later to reduced the price of the PS3

[@Xamarin491]

As with previous generations, they would probably distribute PS4 versions (maybe at least for the PS4 Pro) of any new PS5 game that comes out

[@SATO_FD2R]

*_#1) Sony not giving the PS Vita the push it deserved in the West_*

[@lekanraposte6732]

Also, Sony forcing their own overpriced memory cards on the Vita instead of going with standard SD cards like the Nintendo DS.

[@123RADIOactive]

佐藤 - Satō the whole thing was ruined due to how expensive the memory cards were. But the other reason why I think it failed is due to the fact that their games were made primarily as a home console game rather than having portable games in mind. Meaning that many of the games were not meant for you to play within a short period of time.

[@lekanraposte6732]

@@123RADIOactive I don't mind the portable home console experience. It was the Vita's mai draw after all. But that 200$ 32GB memory card coupled with games that were 1GB to even 7GB each was really NOT customer friendly. The Switch Lite have the same problem but at least they use standard SD cards that are reasonably priced at least.

[@DigitalDash-]

They pushed way too hard on indie/rpg games. Plus memory price was ridiculous! The games they promised never came

[@mikeluna2026]

As a someone who has made VR apps, I have to salute the virtual boy. They encountered a lot of the issues we now take for granted, but they didn't. It was way ahead of its time sadly. Plus, they rushed it too much (Which is the reason it had a single color, they didn't have the tech to allow full color while staying affordable). If Nintendo had let it mature and not kept it secret from 3rd parties it may have been much better and had more games at launch...

[@david0aloha]

Surprised that the initial Xbox 360s, which red ringed themselves by literally melting and scorching their insides, didn't make the list.

[@david0aloha]

@@The_Great_Saiyaman Technical and design decisions ARE decisions. Deciding to build and release a console which is unable to sufficiently remove heat from the CPU is a bad manufacturer's decision.

[@n0isyturtle]

Top 3 Worst Decisions Made By Console Makers: #3 - The N64 controller design #2 - Making the N64 a cartridge-based system #1 - Releasing the N64

[@cgordon5745]

Worst decision your mama made was not using contraception 9 months before your birth.

[@n0isyturtle]

Top 3 Highest Sodium Things on Earth: #3 Don Juan Pond in Antarctica #2 Sifto Salt Mine in Goderich, Ontario #1 Nintendo fanboys

[@christobanistan8887]

​@@cgordon5745 Original

[@THATONEGUY-nt4gk]

noisyturtle you got to respect n64 it had some amazing games

[@barrywallace4985]

@@THATONEGUY-nt4gk No it did not, it had a lot of grossly overrated piles of shit on it. Like both Zelda games, Super Mario 64, Goldeneye and Conkers Bad Fur Day, all steaming piles of crap that are not worth the praise they are given.

[@quite1enough]

any paid online and pay-to-win schemes

[@quite1enough]

@aj schott k

[@quite1enough]

​@Ethan Johnson umm

[@ex2bot]

The Xbox 360 never had an internal HD-DVD drive. It was a regular DVD drive. That’s why later games needed multiple DVDs. They did offer an external HD-DVD drive, but obviously they backed the wrong horse with that. No internal HD disc drive allowed them to undercut Sony in price.

[@SgtAmerica]

THANK YOU!!! I was thinking the same damn thing. The Xbox 360 used an internal DVD drive.

[@MrMarinus18]

Indeed and at least where I lived they outsold the PS3 by a wide margin. The 6th generation was dominated by 2 consoles. The X-360 for hardcore gamers and the Wii for casuals. The PS3 could indeed do more but the X-360 could do all that it needed to do. I remember that saying you had a PS3 was frowned upon. It meant that you were either 1: A spoiled brat who's parents got him everything he wanted or 2: Someone without a life who puts his entire allowance on a game console.

[@desox123]

The Ps3 was overpriced even when taking this into account in the end 360 and wii dominated so eh

[@setsunaes]

@@MrMarinus18 last time I checked PS3 actually SOLD more units than what XBOX360 SHIPPED... and a fair part of that amount where RROD replacement units...

[@jayhawker03]

you do know that the 360 did not come with an HD DVD drive right, that whole thing about games on multiple discs doesn’t apply since they were on regular dual layer DVD’s. The 360 had an HDDVD expansion drive not a standard internal drive.

[@Pdor_figlio_di_Kmer]

And to make things worse, the HDDVD expansion could not be used for loading games, but only multimedia contents.

[@pacoramon9468]

Nintendo eliminating the virtual console from the Switch.

[@OutlawAladdin]

What happen??

[@phonzeh]

can't eliminate something that was never there =P

[@littleman7514]

paco ramon Just get VC games on the Wii U

[@dragonreverseadulinanda4614]

Nintendo made the sword

[@Toastcat890]

Yep would have gotten this first instead of the PS4 if they allowed you to buy older games like the PS4 does.

[@Falcon_747]

Number 0 was forgotten, Sony making online paid on the ps4

[@Gazzoosethe1]

That's a nuclear disaster

[@meskoareyouhere]

Same on xbox lol

[@reanukeeves5088]

i was gonna say that too

[@zacharymorin4634]

really isnt that bad especially with the games they give you each month. alot of good games were free in the last couple months and this month (february) is hitman AND for honor. Also they had Mafia 3 and God of War a couple months back. IMO you don't just pay for online you pay for ''free games'' and if you get 1 every 2 months you get your money back, fast. Also by paying you get better servers overall. Servers on the ps3 were so bad it wasnt even funny at some points

[@silent_stalker3687]

Blek Spoderman Games they force the developers to censor.

[@mikeluna2026]

Using cartridges allowed the N64 to have faster data transmission. So it helped with loading times and level size (meaning more semi open world feel for levels, like mario 64, banjo kazooie, etc). Using the CD would have allowed it to have more detailed graphics, but loading times would have been longer, and levels probably a lot of bite sized ones. At the time Nintendo chose the first option for that reason, and money, obviously, cause they made the cartridges.

[@erickh555]

1# making online gaming a paid suscription :(

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

It was like that since the beginning of online gaming and it's not until private server came up that people realize it's more profitable to have microtransactions.

[@erickh555]

@@FlameRat_YehLon it was not the common denominator in ps3 not even in wii or wii u and never ever on pc so.... yeah, its sad anyways

[@sonybae4652]

that's not gonna stop them, since most ppl who complain about it dont even play on console, also on psn reg 3 it only cost me like $26/year even $18 when it's on sale lol

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

@@FlameRat_YehLon Uhhh no it wasn't

[@mikee6666]

@@sonybae4652 It's not so much the money, it's more the principle of the matter. Used to be that when you bought a game, you had a complete game you could fully enjoy and do what you want with. Now - game are consistently released broken and unfinished; the retail price is just a base rate, you have to pay extra to get a complete game via DLC and microtransactions; Special Edition versions are seldom complete packages, any perks are single use downloads; an increasing number of games require online connectivity, unconscionably even when online elements aren't an integral part of the game; there's a concerted push toward killing the secondhand game market, can't on-sell digital downloads (afaik), and many discs now require paying for an extra registration to fully unlock the features. Etc, etc, etc . . . . Having to also pay extra to use the multiplayer feature of a game you've already paid for is just another kick in the bollocks. Admittedly (with PSN anyway, don't know about the others) you do get a lot of bang for your buck when you get Playstation Plus. But still, shouldn't be a requirement for playing games you already own. (Which is another point of semantic contention. Used to be when you bought a game, you owned that game. Now the manufacturers claim is typically that when you "buy" a game, you've just paid for a licence to play it, or some nonsense like that.)

[@Quangipoo]

Making the memory cards using materials carved from Godzilla's back, looking at you Sony, you murdered the Vita.

Quangipoo there are SD adapters.

[@MrKozlosPL]

@ yeah... Almost 4 years after launch, ONLY with hacked console. They just murdered vita out of their greed.

[@zamirewilson7424]

Yeah, that could have given the 3DS and Switch a run for its money, after an upgrade of course, but yeah, they did kill it with that memory bull-bull along with other stuff.

[@Jeremiah71603]

uh? so a memory card that can survive any man made weapon and is able to charge up radioactive fire breath beams? sounds durable and deadly but I agree probably not great if used as a digital storage device

[@mrbasscow]

Only the real OG’s will remember the little tiny lamp you put on your gameboy color to see the screen

[@WardofSquid]

No. 0: *Nintendo Switch Online: Forcing players to pay to play online, when they never had to for over a year after the Switch was released. And the online play is still terrible* .

[@levistuart2871]

ikr, everyone's talking about how bad ps4 and xboxs is but atleast they get games and good servers. switch get a raspberry pi and awful servers. not saying xbox or ps4 paid online is good or anything.

[@RightClickChannel]

Nice job describing how the Free to Online process has worked longterm for each of the Big 3 so far.

[@downey2294]

not to mention that you cannot use voice chat without a phone if it's even an option for that game. atleast the games are pretty fun

[@dnsjtoh]

levi stuart, you also get with the switch online TONS of nes games for free, so it’s worth it.

[@trithos7308]

@@dnsjtoh no it really isn't. You want a killer deal on games? Look up humble bundle.

[@chriswynne101]

Worst console decision of all time was people not buying the dreamcast.

[@ilsantomembro]

I still have mine. For the money, it didn't seem like it was worth it, until you owned it. Also, because it was a windows based machine, you could turn it into an emulation station with no problems. Code: Veronica was so far ahead of its time, and Grandia II still is probably one of the best RPGs to date.

[@ceeinfiniti1389]

Dreamcast = A large portion of my childhood. I still have one and still play it.

[@animanga87]

This is only half the story. SEGA goofed by releasing it in between the N64 and PS2 which ended up being far superior hardware that SEGA couldn't compete with because they chose to release during a mid-step.

[@milanmiric5534]

I agree so much... Dreamcast was amazing.

[@wesforehand278]

Yes!

[@gianttacogod]

1. Gold and plus

[@TheJoker61541]

Thank you

[@wutduh8697]

Louder for the people in the back!

[@desox123]

Exactly

[@TheTicassShow]

@Ethan Johnson Ever heard of Steam ?

[@willywanker1728]

They make hella money with it so actually its good for them

[@razgriz821]

Oh i remember buying an addon light lamp to my gameboy advance.. man did that drain my batteries.. i couldnt save money to buy rechargable batteries because my urge to play immediately made me buy regular energizer batteries..

[@quintonquill]

yes i too had this was a expensive pen light clip that ate dc power.

[@LanceStone93666]

I had an external light/screen magnifier that ran off its own battery but wasn't nearly as efficient as the gba itself.

[@VulturePilot]

Microsoft is still paying the price for their 2013 E3. Made me switch over from 360 to PS4. I didn’t get an X1 until 2015 once they finally started to course correct.

[@bigboi9711]

Ikr

[@micahthomas7699]

I agree. The Xbox 360 was awesome but the Xbox One was and still is kinda wtf 😆😆😆

[@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli]

Sports sports sports sports

[@micahthomas7699]

@CypherI agree it's a little better now but the Xbox 360 was far better. The Xbox One main focus was not gaming when it launched and sadly that still a little holds true even now. Games are what a system.

[@Gameon22387]

@Cypher I 100% agree. I have both xbox one and ps4. This gen sony just killed it with exclusive games and xbox just bombed, hands down and thats why they trail by so much in terms of sales even tho xbox box one x is a much better under the hood. Nothing is really being done you utilize that power, also not having any console selling exclusive games.

[@Real_Retrophilia]

All IMHO of course: 9. It was released next to the normal PSP and was an option, not a replacement. 8. Not really a 'worst' decisions. Just an omission that some people missed. 6. The cartridge is what defined the system. 5. HD-DVD was being pushed by Microsoft because it's open source. The disc would be easier to produce and and work on more platforms, like PC, without additional software and licenses. It ended up failing, but it was the better format. The disc had less storage, but it had better compression. And the PS3 didn't use because it was backed by movie studios, most studios supported it, because PS3 had a Blu Ray. I still feel that Sony used pretty dirty tactics to make Blu Ray the dominant format and force studios toward it. 4. Same reason the Game Boy didn't have a backlight, price and batterylife. I wished it had a backlight to, but the the SP did have it. So 'bad' decision, but not worst.

[@SkyeV5]

Wow, I didn't even know the Gameboy Advance SP lacked a headphone jack, and it was one of my favorite handheld consoles of all time. I put hundreds of hours into it. Don't remember ever once being like "Wow I wish I had a headphone jack." but now Im like "wtf how would you live without that". How times change

[@stevienguyen2047]

Skye. Eh. It was just 32 bit beep blip music. Couldn’t even hear speech lol

[@TechBlade9000]

@@stevienguyen2047 Sonic Advance 3 wants a word with you

[@Jimmymatthewb]

Same here. Played that thing for hundreds of hours and somehow right now am finding that out for the first time it's incredible.

[@AlphaDevil2018]

You forgot Microsoft throwing away used games

[@jumahamis227]

Wow it’s astonishing that Nintendo did everything first, even removing the headphone jack 😂

[@woozy_deer]

I look back fondly on N64 cartridges, as a kid there was no better feeling than loading up a new cartridge for a game that just came out. Can't agree with you on that one man, cartridges are such a part of the nostalgia!!

[@MrMarinus18]

One big advantage of cartridges that almost nobody talks about is their durability. I remember when I had a N64 and my friend had a PS1 the biggest difference wasn't the loading times but that we had to handle the CD's with care and always put them back into their cases while with the N64 we just had the cartridges litter around everywhere.

[@sleepysteev2735]

Floppy discs are durable.

[@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565]

Still using cartdridges instead of discs was a huge OOF for Nintendo, Its the main reason Square Enix abandoned Nintendo and went to make FFVII on the Playstation 1. Its not worth having Cool looking 3D graphics when sound quality and specially memory space is so small. I kinda dislike the pixalated look from the ps1 and definetely preffer the actual 3D graphics from the N64, but Shigeru's arrogance and saying that people wouldnt Care for CDs instead of cartdridges costed him the competition. Lol.

[@shadowergy6702]

All the soulja boy consoles should get an honorable mention

[@jeremyroberts8822]

Shadowergy I can’t believe he is still trying lol. Have you seen the newest handheld he is selling? It supposedly has like over 800,000 games lmao

[@hubbah9865]

jeremy roberts 800.000!? In your dreams! Lol

[@TheNitroG1]

why they are all existing consoles he slapped his name on and resold at a substantial mark up. hilariously he even list them as "on sale" where he marked them up even higher and then discounted them 50%. his fans must be the dumbest people on the planet. and if he ever wants them to stop questioning if these things are at all worth what he charges for them. well he just says you are trying to keep a black person from making money...fuck that con artist I hope nintendo sues him into homelessness. Crank that, bitch.

[@robertstoner4973]

I loved my Ngage QD. It could play a lot of games but only Pathway to Glory was worthwhile. The phone and texting weren't bad

[@Saturnsonic95]

pocket kingdom was awesome, especially for that time

[@okmer2396]

Why buy a mini console? It aint handheld so what does it matter?

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

I mean shelf space is a thing that exists, some people with smaller homes or apartments have it at a premium. Not that the Wii took up much anyway, thing was tiny and designed to stand on its end.

[@okmer2396]

@@VeraTheTabbynx tfuck is 20 or even 30 centimeters gonna matter? You live in a 4 by 4 meters house? Tfuck 🤣 but i do get what you mean. But still? Tfuck.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

@@okmer2396 Some people, either by choice or situation simply don't have a ton of avalable shelf space. This can be due to a general lack of available space, or that what space is there is used up. For instance, since I share a residence with a close friend of mine, our media center consists of the following on top of 2 chests of drawers: -a flatscreen TV bolted to the wall -an Android box -a record player -2 enormous speakers -a stereo -a Wii U -a 12 disc cd player -an Xbox one -a PS4 -stacks of games for each console -and yes, a Wii, stood on its end awkwardly sandwiched between a stack of Xbox discs and the right speaker while seated on top of the 12 disc changer. Were it really any larger, it would need to sit on the floor.

[@CaveyMoth]

My favorite thing is the shrinking of the main system, and then having to add an external power brick, such as with the PS2 slim.

[@pimptom8704]

I know a few people who can’t fit larger consoles, I personally just throw them in a well ventilated closet.

[@dominicdecoco4368]

What about having to pay to play online

[@knight-mares]

That's got nothing to do with the console maker

[@iiiii42]

@@knight-mares bruh

[@evanmedi6144]

@@knight-mares thats have every bit to do with console makers

[@LaMelo-]

@@iiiii42 pc doesnt have that.

[@iiiii42]

@@LaMelo- on console stupid

[@chuffin4]

Who remembers when the original Xbox 360 didn’t have internet capability unless you bought the wireless network adapter and when you had to but the hard drive separately?

[@crippanda6]

It always had an ethernet port

[@zeroturn7091]

Yeah, I used a WRT54G with DD-WRT.

[@FascistTangerine]

The 32X for Sega Genesis was unfortunate shit I bought into. They released approximately 10 games for the system in total before abandoning it completely in favor of the Saturn.

[@MrFallen1ne]

Actually Jay it was beaten out by another failure of Sega which was the Sega CD.

[@drainer3339]

There are exactly 40 games for it and about a third of them require a Sega CD to play

[@JesseLJohnson]

I have one. it came with Doom or a similar game and it didn't even work and I had another game that I am pretty sure was a boxing game that was alright then soon as I got it they dumped the system and I got a PlayStation lol.

[@yannmergezs2820]

Worst Sony descision for PS4 is : ps plus .

[@willhuey4891]

the only reason i use the ps plus is the monthly free games

[@willhuey4891]

thats the reason i use it is monthly free games

[@jjstraka1982]

Is this for real?? Cartridges were one of the MAIN ADVANTAGES the N64 had over Playstation.

[@apachehelocopto1779]

Faster loadtimes would be the only advantage

[@EumelaninKnight]

Dishonourable mention: PS4 Pro not having 4k Blu-Ray

[@spongebobshouse4437]

Sam Blu-ray not dvd

[@shahrulnizam4713]

@@Username-2 i bet you havent thought of people with slow internet speed and prefer to buy physical disc rather than download 60GB+ of the game

[@TheyCallMeSledge]

@@Username-2 Physical discs are still very relevant. Digital media for modern games takes a shit ton of space on a hard drive and for one that plays a lot of games, that's very inconvenient. That and from what the guy above me said, not everyone is blessed with decent internet speed so that can be an issue too.

[@ressljs]

Depends how much that 4K drive adds to the price. I am one of those people that still buys movies and TV on disc, so I would have been willing to pay extra for it. But I'm betting I'm in the minority.

[@Malus1531]

@@Username-2 Blu Rays are nice to have a permanent collection; things can get taken down at any time from the likes of Netflix. The quality is also much better than streaming. As for your bad internet argument, that doesn't make sense. People with bad internet might still buy a PS4 for the single player games. Single player exclusives is the main reason to own a PS4. Those same people would be more likely to buy Blu Rays, since their internet is worse.

[@gtlegacy8]

Wait hold up there was a wii mini? When did it came out?

[@WastedGoatFR]

I know right?

[@spongebobshouse4437]

cloud ix I didn't even know it existed

[@shawnwolf5961]

I have one lol

[@ressljs]

They released that several months, maybe a year after the Wii U came out. The problem was it didn't have any online abilities which meant no Wii Shop. I wasn't so into downloadable "Wii Ware" but the virtual console on that system was a gold mine. If someone still wanted a Wii at that point they would have been far better off buying a used standard unit (which were flooding game stores at the time) rather than the stripped down mini.

[@tacomas9602]

ressljs Is the Wii even relevant today?

[@moha_aoun]

1:24 looking at download speeds of advanced countries of 2009 Also me crying at my african 200kb/s 2020 download speed

[@ACBeats09]

Wow im moroccan and we have 4mb/s

[@moha_aoun]

The_Soul_Of_Gaming yeah, algeria has the worst, like literally the worst download speed in the world

[@Jamxknife]

Lol that psp go one was a reach........I would download games all the time on my regular psp way before 2009 without issue, and psp games are usually never more than 1GB, not several.

[@mdstevens0612]

Would have been impossible for me with the speeds we had back then, it's why everyone was mad that it didn't read UMDs, because it'd be fine if you could play a game while waiting all goddamn day for another one to download. Nowadays that kind of thing wouldn't be as hard to accept.

[@julianharrison7193]

But digital only, especially at that point is just a bad idea

[@GamerErman2001]

Not every game had a digital release.

[@timothylewis2527]

Yeah. Online and digital downloads were already huge back in 2005. Speeds were great. Don't know why they said that. By the time the PSP Go came around, Call of Duty MW and DLC were already an everyday thing.

[@zamirewilson7424]

There was still plenty of places and homes that didn't have reliable internet. I was amongst them.

[@zerabp1130]

Small correction Sony does not nor ever has solely own the Blu-ray format. It is part of the Blu-ray Disc Association, which all jointly own the hardware /software patents involved with Blu-ray. This was originally the Blu-ray Disc Founder Group, which consisted of Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung Electronics. Basically Microsoft had hoped it's clout alone would be able to push the medium forward (HD-DVD) but behind the scenes even before the release of the PS3 the BDA had already made contracts with all but two of the 8 major studios at the time including Disney. Basically there was never even going to be a format war from the start both because of the complete technical superiority and just the sheer amount of money already backing the format (Blu-Ray) before it launched. Anyway just wanted to point out that this was not a heads up MS and Toshiba vs Sony. It was also 8 other major consumer electronics players as well as six major studios contractually exclusive to the Blu-Ray format with the seventh (I believe it was MGM) releasing on both and Paramount being the only Studio under contract with Toshiba. So while to the uninformed console masses it looked like it would be a format war it was pretty much already over before either technology launched. The sales also bore that out if you compared the data at the time. I will say this it was great while HD-DVD was around as Bluray Made sure to keep the price at the DVD standard $19.99 in most US locales, and often you could find Blu-ray versions that had been legitimately fully remastered cheaper than their DVD counterpart.

[@Dgardei]

HD-DVD was made by Toshiba.... No wonder it failed. LOL. Of course Toshiba was probably a lot better than Toshiba today. I work IT at a school, and most of the junk laptops and hard drives I have lying around are Toshiba's. I told the tech at HP that if they stop using Toshiba drives in their laptops, then maybe they won't be replacing the hard drive in my wife's laptop for the 4th time in a year period...

[@StacieMMeier]

True and not. Blu-ray format is part of Blue-ray Dic Association. However, it was Sony who developed and copyrighted the Blu-ray Disc, thus they did indeed control and own much of technology.

[@spongebobshouse4437]

Zera BP finger cramps?

[@MrMarinus18]

Well at the time Blue-ray and HD-DVD were about the same and companies were trying to guess which medium was the future. Microsoft backed HD-DVD and once you have backed something you can't pull out again. Originally HD-DVD had many more supporters but several switched at the last second.

[@nathanapplegate5374]

Microsoft’s biggest mistake was the X box one... just everything about it at the launch announcement.

[@DeadEyeJ]

You forgot about the Xbox One. Sure, it's good now, but think back to 2013 when the console was first announce and the immediate negative fallout from that. The focus from being a game console to an all-in-one media device (I'm seeing a pattern here), the condescending tone from execs at Xbox towards their fanbase, the anemic hardware specs of the first system (DDR3 for video memory? Seriously?), and the fact that it was $100 more than it's competition because of the worthless Kinect camera that it included.

[@Chaos89P]

I remember. I only heard about the XBOne's problems from hearsay, but I do specifically remember Sony ripping Microsoft a new one, with my personal favorite being how to share physical games on the PS4.

[@marty5144]

Old news next

[@TheDittoMan]

I prefer xbox, but I can agree that the original xbox one was trash. Xbox one s and x were the saving graces that we needed.

[@christobanistan8887]

lol yeah and the initial online-only game option for some games, and how long it too Microsoft to drop that. Although, the people bitching about not being able to trade because games were to be online purchase (like Steam) were a bunch of luddites.

[@lorenblackledge7932]

Lmao and now the one x has better specs than the pro and it’s gonna stay that way with next gen too

[@jorgeambriz892]

2:59 When you said "Alexa", she actually responded

[@Crazy_killer-qm8ju]

It was a picture showing the light on idiot

[@jono7951]

Crazy_killer 1112 r/woosh

[@MartyD171]

Number 1: The game lineup for the PS Classic.

[@terrellcole7633]

The original XB1 announcement is what made me switch to PC after a lifetime of console gaming.

[@PLANTBAT]

XB1 is the worst.

[@joaocarlospaesjr2324]

@@PLANTBAT worst in wath things ? Cost benefit , costumer support , services , online network , hardware with Xbox One X ? I don't think so , PS4 loses in all this things .

[@EliDjahn]

@@DargonTheLegend plug and play? That makes no sense you can easily transport a PC that argument is invalid like all the other nonsensical crap console gamers spew about PC and they wonder why PC players mock them

[@EliDjahn]

@@DargonTheLegend I also play PC, Xbox, and Ps4 and your friends dont know what plug and play means you cant jusy download your account and start playing you would still have to download the games "plug and play" would be plugging the system in and immediately play a game same can be done for Consoles and PC so idk what you are smoking

[@ImmAaronn]

@@PLANTBAT Yeah show the facts boy! I play original xbox one and I love it

[@Aragorn7884]

Apple's Pippin was worse than Nintendo's Virtual Boy...

[@GamerGabbar]

I absolutely loved the Kinect and wish it actually worked out for Microsoft.

[@thingsiplay]

Mario Kart best online game for Wii?? I hate Mario Kart playing online. I only play it on couch with split screen, how it is meant to. So its perfect game for the Wii Mini.

[@gowary]

I think by best he means it's the least worse from the shit and laggy nintendo online service... 😅😅

[@thingsiplay]

@@gowary Yeah, but the Wii U Mini have no online service, so this can't be an argument.

[@SaraS-jq1ln]

Gamecube Doubledash is the only good Mario kart. Ever.

[@thingsiplay]

@@SaraS-jq1ln I don't agree. I played the original Super Mario Kart back in the days with friends and its still one of the best racing games. I also played the Wii U version with friends.

[@acepengu1n355]

The online was full of hackers anyway so no online wasn’t a bad thing.

[@shraysinha]

Honestly, I can't see a big reason why people like discs. They scratch so quickly.

[@homedeath4583]

Well what if your account gets banned, or it shows ownership because you know you can’t lose them.

[@homedeath4583]

Well if they scratch quickly then you must be under the age of 10

[@MrMarinus18]

@@frankie6273 The Switch doesn't use cartridges, they use solid drive storage. The two look the same because they both use copper connectors but inside they are different. A reason why cartridges are expensive is because each game cartridge is unique. With CD's you can just mass-produce blank CD's and put different games on them. You can't do that with cartridges as a cartridge needs to be custom made for the game. Solid drive like the Switch is also re writable though of course they have many checks build in to prevent that.

[@Eaawesome59]

That hasn't been an issue for PlayStation since the PS2. Blu-Ray discs have scratch resistance. The only way you're gonna scratch one of those is if you're just lazy with where you put your games or if you intentionally try to scratch one of those.

[@wannabecliffburton4275]

I love discs

[@RabidFace]

The Gameboy light was only released in Japan. I do remember though when I was 12 with my grandpa, walking in Downtown San Francisco and seeing some in those in a window of those Japanese tech stores.

[@robertmoreland1220]

The Nintendo 64 joystick that wore out within six months of using it

[@mrsplays9817]

I've used the same controller for nearly 20 years and it's still fine.

[@BrokenSaintX]

Or a few days of playing Mario Party, remember the minigames that had you aggresively turning the stick in a full circle for several seconds? Yeah the controller would literally bleed out the joystick particles for weeks after.

[@ivanmontalvo9333]

Well, it was the first one, so it was not an error, it was a step forward

[@lc9245]

I like the older entries. The cartridge was the most memorable one for me as I felt Nintendo lost its crown gradually to that decision. Because of Nintendo backwardness, Sony gained a proper foothold and prosper from there.

[@carljansen4583]

Upside to the kinect, it was really useful with the creation of smart home interaction for people with physical disabilities. So at least something good came out of it.

[@qunn2818]

1. Buying an Xbox 2. Buying an Xbox 3. Buying an Xbox 4. Buying an Xbox 5. Buying an Xbox 6. Playing the Xbox 7. Playing the Xbox 8. Playing the Xbox 9. Spending money on an Xbox 10. Spending money on an Xbox

[@trickymicky7177]

1. Buying a PS4 2. Buying a PS4 3. Buying a PS4 4. Buying a PS4 5. Buying a PS4 6. Buying a PS4 7. Playing a PS4 8. Playing a PS4 9. Spending money on a PS4 10. You existing Btw it's not "an" Xbox, learn grammar you little shit

[@apolloeggo3677]

PS4 user can't afford batteries

[@paghahanapngkaluluwa7432]

unlock-able content now being considered parts of DLCs

[@kaleknelson8429]

The end of backwards compatibility for modern consoles something that definately would have bolstered game sales.

[@Ruru240z]

Worst decision: Discontinuation of the Gamecube. That was my favorite console of all time, as with a lot of others.

[@Deleted67209]

2:09 "WII included it" *pun intended?*

[@TobleroneCraft]

2020: only having pre-order releases for consoles

[@frankgeez6584]

Psp go is trash. Even when hacked the damn thing is prone to so many issues. The hardware is so cheap that it will constantly break. The battery is meh and the worst part is the fact that the memory card is minimal. M2 cards are hard to get above 8gb.

[@SquillagusNiggle]

Agreed, I have played various PSPs from the original PSP-1000 up to the second-generation Vita (all hacked of course) and I could never figure out a reason to buy a PSP Go. Pulling the same "Oh hey you need a new expensive memory card for that expensive system" trick killed both the PSP Go and the PS Vita. Sony never, ever learn.

[@oliverbrown8680]

Advertising the wii u by showcasing the gamepad as an accessory to the wii

[@Brotonik]

10 WORST Decisions Made By Console Makers 1. You bought a console lmao

[@Alias_Anybody]

The emulator choice on the PS Mini. The horrible stick on the N64. Nearly every modern DPad. The "Duke" Xbox controller. The PS3 Cel-architecture. Proprietary memory cards for the PS Vita.

[@DrBF3000]

Well, N64 stick was the first of its kind.

[@treefiddy727]

Proprietary memory cards for the first Playstations period

[@Ferotiq]

1: Xbox refusing to allow you to cancel a subscription when it got suspended

[@lawlessgarage6030]

Ya-Boi-Insanity that never happens bud think before you speak

[@mittytokumeisei995]

"everybody loves the alexa" ...... lol FALSE! just another huge waste of space forcing you to use voice commands that take more time than doing it by hand.

[@alexandermccabe556]

sony taking backward compatibility off the ps3 and never adding it to ps4

[@michaelscheu1386]

Alexander McCabe It would’ve never been possible to add it to the PS4 in the first place, the hardware in those two consoles is extremely different, and the only way that it would have worked is using emulation software on the PS4, but it probably would not run well.

[@The7Reaper]

Then the Ps4 would have cost just as much if not more than the Xbox One which would not have been good so it was kind of a smart decision. I don't see the point in buying a brand new console just to play old games anyway.

[@ressljs]

It's all a matter of money. It's not like PS2 compatibility on the PS3 was just some coding. The early PS3's literally had a PS2 embedded inside them. That's part of the reason why they were so expensive and almost know one bought the early models. If you want a console to have everything imaginable, it's going to cost $600. Sony tried to give people that and they refused to buy it.

[@dansmith1661]

Half my PS1 games had compatibility issues with the PS2. It was better to emulate them and end up converting to PC gaming.

[@MrMarinus18]

That was a great move overall. It allowed them to reduce the price to the point where the PS3 could actually compete with the X-360.

[@madskulthegamer6912]

Hmmm... off the top of my head being an 80's gamer I can say that the Powerglove and the U-Force (I believe that's what it was called) were pretty bad.

[@Cabinet_Juice]

Sam they didn’t mention it be Ayse the Dreamcast is actually a good console. Sure it failed financially but that doesn’t mean everything about it was bad. It had some amazing games, it was the first online console, and VMU’s

[@chadpowell1832]

I actually still have a Kinect sensor , it’s hooked up still

[@sarahskileth6925]

Finally! Someone who knew that the GBA SP, removed the headphone jack before Apple did"

[@sarahskileth6925]

@NelzDaBoss I had no idea who else knew it... Most people I talked to about it didn't know.

[@washbrook]

Nintendo dumping Sony for their CD expansion. Gotta be the biggest own goal ever. 25 years later and they're still paying for it.

[@TheYoungVulnerableAnimeGirls]

I'm seeing a common trend with Nintendo in this list. Also, where are all of the AWFUL decisions that Sega made throughout the 90's?

[@ivanmontalvo9333]

He's clearly just another sony fanboy

[@justin-db7hw]

The N64 would've cost over 100 more if it had a disk drive, they were very expensive back then.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

Cartridges were pretty expensive to manufacture.

[@nexus1g]

Atari's very poor implementation of 8-bit technology with the Atari 7800 compared to what the NES brought to the table, and the outright lying to claim that the Atari Jaguar was a 64-bit system.

[@ressljs]

If Atari had actually launched the 7800 according to plan in 1984 it probably would have done fairly well. They would have gotten a head start on the NES and while I'm sure the NES would have over taken it, they would have had a respectable install base by then. But instead, they waited until the NES was already out and what was supposed to be the launch lineup in 1984 turned into a slow trickle of games because they couldn't decide if they really wanted to invest in the system. The botched launch of the 7800 along with not having a 16-bit system doomed Atari. The Jaguar is almost not worth mentioning because the situation was already beyond hopeless by the time it launched.

[@darebrained]

Fun fact about Kinect: Huge amounts of sales were made... to universities and laboratories since it was a great value for the camera and the movement recognition system. In fact I saw a C.A.V.E. in a university in germany equipped with like 4 kinect sensors to give allow you to move in a customized 3D environment without a full 3D headpiece.

[@Mikerulez101]

How are you not gonna mention Wario Land, the hands-down best Virtual Boy game!?!?

[@CaveyMoth]

I saw VR Oasis play this game on an emulator

[@SgtAmerica]

Wario Land was surprisingly a really good game on Virtual Boy.

[@barrywallace4985]

Biggest console failure ever is the Apple Pippen by far.

[@StarManta]

I'm genuinely shocked to see the Saturn launch debacle not included in this list. First, they turn down pitches from Silicon Graphics and then Sony (which went on to become the n64 and PlayStation respectively). Then, they launch the 32X and cannibalize their own sales and goodwill with consumers. THEN they launch the Saturn months early and wreck their goodwill with retailers. Every decision that doomed Sega as a hardware manufacturer happened in the leadup to Saturn's launch. But I guess one of the Game Boys didn't have a backlight, I can see how that's a bigger deal. /s

[@skeltonslay8er781]

“XBOX!! DISCONNECT KINECT!!!” Xbox: “SELF DESTRUCT ACTIVATED”

[@doublecontralto818]

The Sega 32X and almost immediately dropping it for the Saturn.

[@djbadboon]

I was floored that the 32x didn't make it onto this list. Nothing I could say about it would be better than Kim Justice's "Sega in 1995" video. Afaik, none of the other mistakes on this list directly led to a major console manufacturer's death.

[@JesseLJohnson]

I have one. It put such a bad taste in my mouth I ever considered anything from them that came after. It came with one game think it was Doom or something like it and it didn't even work and I had I think a boxing game too which had all kinds of issues and then they just quit making them. It was on clearance though I think when I got it and was so crazy about Sega at the time mom bought it for me. Got a PlayStation right after that. I was probably 14 so around 96 I imagine. Everything Sega did after the first Genesis was a flop though but a lot of it was ahead of its time but still a flop. Just found a bunch of Sega and Nintendo games at my parents house a couple weeks ago cleaning out closets. I had a friend with an Atari Jaguar back in the 90s too. Don't think anybody but him bought one lol.

[@plasmafx5644]

When I'm rage-quitting and my baby bro comes to close 2:49

[@koro_kokoro]

Cartridges have gone full circle, it’s now viable to used them again on the switch

[@deathsheir2035]

That's because of a huge advancement in efficiency in solid state storage. The Gaming Industry is going to be coming full circle, as Cartridges are the thing of the past, but are now going to be the way of the future. Digital will be tagging along, but will never become the default. Even with how big Steam is, the vast majority of gamers, prefer a physical copy of the games they play.

[@placeholdername3206]

@@deathsheir2035 Physical media is a thing of the past. No, the vast majority of gamers do not prefer physical copies. The vast majority of gamers are on PC which have been used to digital for 15 years now. The vast majority of gamers (console gamers too) do not care about having a bookcase full of gamecases they can display when they bring a tinder date over. Yes, i can sort of understand that people are worried about ownership of their games, and losing access to an account that has thousands of dollars worth of games. Personally i've had my Steam account literally since the day it came out (because the newest update of Counter-Strike required it) and never looked back. The only PC games I have ever bought physically since then was the release of Battlefield 3, and 2 WoW expansions because I was at the midnight launch of those games.

[@IngwiePhoenix]

It's so funny reading that so many games are complaining about paying for online play. I mean... those people clearly have no idea for business and take stuff like that for granted. Personally, making DLCs taking up more and more of a main game content is the worst decision in a long time. Just buying a game is _almost_ impossible. I get the idea of it, but it's actually a sign of low quality. Take for instance the backstory of characters in FF15. Those are moved to DLCs. Decisions like that are bad...really bad. Making DLCs as part of a prologue or sideline addition is definitively fine and actually very awesome - but keep DLC out of the main game. And as for micro-transactions... well, they can go die and rot in hell. I get the idea of Freemium stuff - but paying for a game AND having to utilize micro-transactions in that same game is just... greedy, horrible and definitively beyond me.

[@MrMarinus18]

Indeed because buying a game whole like that means averaging out your market. Using DLC allows you to maximize sales because you can have every customer pay exactly how much they want. Those who are rich go for luxurious sets and those who are poor for more basic ones. Creating classifications in price is a reality of business. People do not buy 2 of the same game for themselves so they use DLC to give that price classification instead.

[@mayhem5183]

Yeah, I completely agree. Used to be when a game was released, it had to be done, complete. Meticulously bug tested to prevent a random glitch from breaking the game. And if they had more content that they had to cut from the game, for whatever reason, they had to make a sequel. Now, when a game gets released, it's basically a beta, a rough draft. I realize I'm talking about patches, not exactly the same thing as DLCs, although another sign of the low quality your talking about. I feel that way about the current gen consoles as well. Yeah, consoles have had been redesigned and re-released in the past, but it was generally just a smaller, more efficient, cheaper, refined design. It performed exactly the same as the original. Maybe with a bigger hard drive. I was only recently finally able to get a PS4. I'm a huge gamer, but several hundred dollars is a hard thing for me to come up with. And I was getting kinda sad, I was missing all of these awesome games. I have only had a couple opportunites to play any current gen consoles at some friend's houses. And they came out in 2013. But luck came my way and I was able to pick up a used PS4. But I don't really feel like I have one. I almost have one, but not quite. The games look better than last gen games, but not nearly as good as they do on the actual PS4. The PS4 Pro, or the Xbox One X. The actual, finished consoles. I waited to play games that were released on both last gen and current gen so I could get the better graphics. Now I have a current gen console, but it still feels like I am a generation behind. It's like playing the console port of an arcade game on an arcade machine.

[@Arismory]

Your mother clearly droped you on the head.

[@czechmate8287]

Nokia sales rep: "Well, we could call it the 'N-Gage'". Nokia CEO: "That sounds dumb". Sales Rep's Dad in the corner: "Well, we're not married to it".

[@theartyonko]

For me it's paying for online.

[@SssagaBenches4U]

A BOMB!

[@CloverKismet]

The PS4 is'nt backwards compatible!

[@WastedGoatFR]

Is'nt😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@THATONEGUY-nt4gk]

Shining Asteriscus Luck you right but 2 options to fix that 1)just buy ps vue 2)buy a ps2 and ps3 they both cheap

[@WastedGoatFR]

@@THATONEGUY-nt4gk or emulate

[@THATONEGUY-nt4gk]

wasted goat EXACTLY

[@SRPC21]

5 more in no particular order: 1. Sega releasing the 32x 2. No backwards capacity with Genesis games on the Saturn (was SO foolish! The Genesis was so popular and Sega did not make use of this easy advantage over newcomers Sony) 3. No DVD players on Dreamcast (or somewhat lesser extent GameCube). 4. Nintendo scrapping Sony’s CD-SNES deal (or making sure the initial contract didn’t favour Sony so much more which forced them to do so!) 5. Only one control stick on Dreamcast controller (I guess the console was finished before it really mattered but using buttons to move forward in First Person Shooters was awkward/outdated for a 6th generation console)

[@xenobestx8423]

Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME GAMERANX!

[@Doctor_Moisture]

The greatest console of all time.

[@DANNYonPC]

The PS4 that can be turned on by my cat And to this day i still need to look up where the button is to open the bluray drive.

[@Patrick-vh7sw]

Your take on HD-DVD...missed the mark. And I say this as someone who worked as a software developer for both formats. For one, Microsoft didn't own the HD DVD format. For two, the 360 released a year prior to the PS3, which is something you should keep in mind. The original PS3 units had BD drives that failed relatively often...and Bluray Disc production yields for quite a while were in the gutter - we're talking 90% of all discs being garbage. As of a few years ago, Sony had not yet fully recouped the cost of the research required for BluRay. Production of DVDs however was easily converted to produce HD DVDs with good yields. HD DVD had a few great features too - publishers couldn't force you to watch any previews. No region locking. More advanced interactive menus...and better multi angle support for...well, you figure that one out. And HD DVD did have a smaller data cap to it, but it was quite adequate for movies. But the game discs themselves? DVDs. Again, the XBox 360 shipped too soon for these formats. The HD DVD drive was an addon for the console via USB. Studios backed BluRay? Well, yes - eventually. In 2008...when they decided to end the format war. Go digging for info there...but let's just say Sony was hell bent on not losing another format war. Lack of HD DVD burner drives? Well...yeah. But that's because Sony bought the only company that held the patents to make the burner drives, and Japan has no real anti-trust/anti-monopoly laws. There's a lot more to the whole thing than you're letting on...and I think you really missed the mark.

[@THEMrFill]

You missed the PS3 not having rumble in their controllers, claiming they couldn't get the six axis of the controls with a rumble, clearly disproven by the DS3 coming out within a year... How about no trophies for the PS3 for the first year? PS3 was Sony's biggest screw up launch which was beaten by Microsoft's Xbox One launch, funny how Sony forgot about their huge mistakes with the PS3 when they launched the PS4, and people hated on Microsoft for their mistakes but ignored Sony's ones... 😛

[@temmorijken5762]

We have a microsoft fanboy over here

[@Djbiohazard1991]

And a Sony one to match!

[@MrMarinus18]

The PS3 was indeed a major setback. At least how I remember it, it had the reputation of being WAY overkill. That it had a lot of features nobody ever used and that the X-360 was good enough for everything while being much cheaper.

[@mayhem5183]

And the PS3 was $600....THE premium gaming console...blu-ray and high definition and blah blah. However, most games the highest supported video output is 720p. While the exact same games on the 360 are 1080p. Blu ray or not, it doesn't seem the PS3 was so great after all. Well, at least you did not have to buy a separate add on HDDVD drive to watch movies.

[@barrywallace4985]

@@mayhem5183 Yeah but in terms of games and and console exclusives, the PS3 blew the 360 out the water, and the PS3 had a far superior controller as well.