What Happened to the 9th Generation?

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[@LiamMaksim-cs5px]

How is this 3h ago when the vid is 32 mins ago Edit:i now have 10 likes I AM UNSTOPPABLE

[@The_Gaming_Kiwi]

​@@LiamMaksim-cs5px goose can do anything with the power of Canadian kindness

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

Regarding communication aspect its heavly moderated by automated ai bots that banning people sometimes for stupid reason to the point people are just not talking because they are affraid. You can get banned for typing GG in chat in some games. Ubisoft recently trying to team up with police to tackle "toxisity" in chat and games.

[@cory2016]

I think it's magic. It was vr games. There are a lot of games f.f 7 rebirth re 4 it's better on ps5, ratchet and Clank Spider-Man 2. Games cost too much hard and a lot of time. I love remake! Bc I see what I want beautiful game from my childhood I want them to do all remakes. helldriver 2 stellar blade I would rather play a ps4 game on ps5. The controller is amazing. But I do agree with you, tho! They need dicth ps4 and an old xbox xbox, just an xbox game pass machine. The only good one is ps5 or Nintendo. Make hits and worth buying. I'm excited for games coming soon like Re1 remake Silent Hill 2 remake metal gear 3 remake and other we don't know

[@cory2016]

I give you like! pc is expensive too if 4k and at best frame rate, the pc is bigger, and I need it in pc cost 500 for low grade that's no grade and super nice one is 1,000 to 3,000 I like to play on a TV not Monitor I don't play online as much I like singer player games more all have Positive and negative some ps5 you can't play the pc have games you play on other if you think about! have a good buddy

[@uhoh4480]

TVs are massive now but split screen is being discarded? Makes no sense

[@crabbypatty10fefrefe]

Not sure if the consoles can handle split screen right now. Also, they would rather you buy 2 games and 2 consoles because they lose SO MUCH MONEY selling consoles at $500. Split screen will never come back.

[@PM-vv3uc]

@@crabbypatty10fefrefe You can play Gran Turismo 7 in Split Screen Mode and it is no big deal.

[@TheAradar]

@@PM-vv3uc You can, but who cares about split screen in 2024? Seriously. You can compete online in VR against 16 other players, or you can compete against 1 other player in split screen mode. Some people are just blinded by nostalgia.

[@tietdrifter2041]

@@TheAradar the people who care are people with family and friends that don't want to either take turns with one game or have to play Mario Party all the freaking time.

[@BoJenfa]

@@tietdrifter2041 it’s gotten so bad that me and the boys are playing ps2 games now

[@nick_4972]

It still feels like this generation has barely even started yet.

[@Wesmoen]

Almost four years in and people still think the "next gen" consoles just came out. It's current gen for years now.

[@so14r3]

I forgot it's been years since ps5 launch

[@CrooN19]

That's so true... I feel like 9th generation came out like 6 months ago.

[@IIIISai]

Cope

[@Agent-mb1xx]

@@IIIISai no arguments? 65IQ confirmed

[@dav786]

We want: -offline -splitscreen -plug n play

[@lordpookie]

@@V3ntilator this is the perfect answer

[@alite_2200]

@@V3ntilator not enough splitscreen

[@thefireph0enix]

Not enough offline digital software

[@iangabrielalcantara7756]

FREE MULTIPLAYER

[@U9DATE]

@@V3ntilator I couldn’t use a Nintendo console as my main console until the hardware catches up. I at least want stable 60fps 1080p minimum

[@roro5625]

I just cried at the end man, where that feeling went? Today I go to someone's place and there's like ps5, series X and no one ever says "hey man, we should play sometime", while before if we saw a 360 or a ps3 we ain't leaving without at least a round of whatever you had... Guess that's why I'm playing diablo 1 and 2 today

[@roro5625]

Update: I've been crying non stop for 10 minutes alredy, fuckin nostalgia drug hits hard

[@RyanL651]

D2R is such a good remaster. Game never gets old. Been playing since original D2 back in 2000...

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

I've been crying for 3 months.

[@LITTLEAL1988]

😂😂

[@kimpk]

That is why I am still in love with my Switch. It’s always a warm feeling when you see it on other people’s homes and you play a round of Mario Kart

[@mewtwo.150]

The problem is that they got rid of stuff that is didn't need a change -Offline gameplays -Plug and play -Split screen -No pay to win and more hidden items, cars, characters earned by effort

[@eruss4373]

@@mewtwo.150 Cheat codes replaced by dlc,

[@niemand7811]

@@eruss4373 The cheat codes. I think they were a relic programmed into the games to enable game journalists to play the entire game in the least amount of time to get their review finished at dead line.

[@LiveforHM]

When publishers got so greedy, they realized they can charge whatever they want for whatever content they want. This is because most gamers are incredibly stupid and uninformed about the consequences of purchase decisions. Every purchase is showing publishers you tacitly approve of their predatory practices. Sports games players are the worst offenders.

[@mikeandroid3512]

On ps5 can I just play offline if I downloaded a game. ? I don’t care about playing online.

[@thatsamazin-]

@@mikeandroid3512 It really depends on the game. Some games require an online connection even if you aren’t playing multiplayer. I would just research the game before purchasing.

[@nicor4016]

You forgot to add that we need to pay for online gaming in consoles

[@gandalfthecreator]

That's why I never bothered getting a console it's so dumb

[@Chris-qj7mt]

😢yeah they have to have that worm on a string that keeps your wallet open.. READY to telling you you don't OOOOWn the game tho

[@shadewolf22]

To be fair it's been like that since the original Xbox lol

[@KingDoyle1996]

Same with PC

[@theblackoutexplorer2658]

@@shadewolf22yea for Xbox. As someone who played on PlayStation I was so heated when they did that shit

[@calculateddeclination5534]

Nintendo leading the gaming industry with ancient technology. Games first. Power isn't everything.

[@Jfscloud723]

More finished games, less patch marathons.

[@Challenger461]

Sadly I feel like PC will destroy Nintendo soon, because Nintendo is a great system, my first console ever when I played Mario Kart, but I feel like PC will be the future and Nintendo will die.

[@reggiefils-aime9798]

​@@Challenger461 different markets tbh.

[@Mr.Chimpazee]

@@Challenger461 Naaaahhhh

[@Oneserioustiger]

@@Challenger461 That couldn’t be far from the truth.

[@eupher2]

Back in the day a game had to be finished before it launched. It played straight off the cartridge or disc, no installing, no DLC, no updates. That's what we want.

[@DaRazee]

So much time and space wasted on a console especially the PS5 one, the one with 825gig, what a joke number Sony could came up with. Feels like we all got screwed with the disc version one, when u had to install to play game on a disc! F U Sony.

[@eupher2]

@@DaRazee Xbox does the same crap. You install the game from the disc and still need the disc as a key to make it work. We want the games to go back to playing off the disc.

[@Kinos141]

"Making games is hard" In the 80's, dudes were making arcades games IN A CAVE... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!

[@arroberson8796]

This comment. Top Tier

[@purplerain7477]

Spot on. Bunch of sissies got the job for money not passion

[@imanormalperson]

I understood that reference

[@Hitmanoob]

They didn't have fancy machines ! They had sticks. Two sticks and a rock for the entire dev team ! And they had to share the rock ! Devs nowadays should consider themselves very lucky employees !

[@MikeWasowskieei]

Every AAA Studio: 'Sorry sir but this isn't the 80's"

[@dadrunkcanadianlive440]

Lack of passion, lack of vision, lack of creativity, more greed.

[@BoomBoom-ym5oy]

@@dadrunkcanadianlive440 i love capitalism but we gotta acknowledge greed at a point begins to interfere with innovation/final product

[@jorgeb3962]

To be fair games are more expensive to make and good digital storage ain't cheap

[@YouGotTheL]

@@jorgeb3962 All they need to do is stop focusing on graphics so much and it would be easier

[@blueseaslug9068]

@@BoomBoom-ym5oy Well if it is damaging the final product capitalism will fix that but it will not be merciful

[@diegosilang4823]

DEI driven by ESG had led to restrictions of creativity of homogeneization. In 1950's creators are afraid of offending Christian fundamentalists. in 2024, the creators are afraid of offending woke liberals.

[@arribalaschivas91]

As a kid who grew up without internet connection, I never knew the online gaming scene. I got used to just playing by myself, so my biggest gripe is how rare it is to see easy-to-load innovative offline single-player mode. That’s why I’ve basically just gone to retro gaming

[@NexusKin]

I've basically done the same thing. Almost all the consoles and games that I own are from the 7th generation and before. I literally only have a PS4 so I can play the exclusives for it, like Bloodborne, The Order 1886, The Last Guardian, and Killzone Shadow Fall.

[@alexvanzyl_official]

exact same as me. never had internet as a kid but now that i do i find myself going to older games more and more.

[@Reality_Checkmate]

I got used to playing with myself as well. I go through like 2 Powergloves a month!

[@teufelhund3801]

I like some online games, but Single player options are key, especially since servers do not last forever.

[@Lynx-10000]

@@Reality_Checkmate What

[@starman5313]

The best thing about the 9th generation so far is that it made the ps4 and xbox one cheaper to buy.

[@shootits48]

The worst thing about this generation is corporate greed, mobile games (being more profitable), subscription models (takes profit away from good studios), games being released unfinished (cyberpunk), digital games purchased are in limbo,

[@StanceSantos]

Forcing the mobile game micro transactions into full priced home console games was the Worst thing that ever happened to the industry

[@shootits48]

@@StanceSantos one of the worst things as well

[@james_wheelz]

also the fact that covid, chip shortage, and scalpers literally caused so many people to wait 18-24 months before getting access to the consoles, so the companies were forced to continue making things work for 8th and 9th gen. So they got used to that. Didn’t really start only making games for 9th gen consoles until almost 3 years into the generation except for certain exclusives

[@sammiches6859]

Why do people think corporate greed in video games started yesterday?

[@shootits48]

@@sammiches6859 it's never been as blatant as it is today.

[@Madmikeinsa]

When the PS3 first launched years ago, I was at the shops with my mom. I told her I was going next door to the pet store, not realizing the tech store had a PS3 on display to play. I got so absorbed in playing that over an hour passed without me noticing. When I finally walked out, the shops were filled with police, and I saw my mom crying. She was furious and beat my ass when we got home. That’s what peak gaming was like back then.

[@carlosguevara5154]

sounds like a good memory mate

[@greengamerguy623]

8th and 9th generation consoles are a scam anyone who buys these are allowing themselves to be scammed why are you paying for your internet and paying again to host games on your own internet shouldn't they pay you to host games for players on your internet?

[@pierreo33]

PS3 "Peak gaming" LMAO

[@mystraunt2705]

@pierreo33 The consoles launch was ass, but then sony choked on their cockiness and realized they had no games. By the end of that generation they had a better game linup than the competition, literally like 30 models of the console trying to get the price down, and surpassed nintendo and xbox in sales.

[@-._Radixerus_.-]

Your mom is a goober it sounds like

[@chriscross1737]

That video montage made me cry so hard man! Back in 2001 I repeatedly begged my mom to buy me a PS2 and she couldn't say yes because we can't really afford it. I begged her for 4 years to buy me one and the answer is always a No. So I finally gave up and moved on. Suddenly one Christmas morning on 2005 a gift box popped up in front of our door and the last thing I hoped for is that it was a toy gun or a lego toy. It was a freaking PS2!!!! My mom gave it to me at a time that I never even expected it and I shrieked and yelled for hours!! I loved my Mom so much even if she didn't bought me one, but that surprise made me appreciate her so much more that until now, I cherished that moment and it was the best gift that I've ever had. My Mom is the best!!!!

[@ZenkaiGoose]

You're Mom is awesome! I think some of the best gaming memories is when your parents give you a game or a controller of a new console on christmas knowing full well there's a console hidden around the corner for you to open next 🤣. Absolutely peak memories, I had the same thing with the GameCube and it was incredible

[@bubbag3332]

bro you made me cry with this haha :')

[@necroblaze16]

I still have my PS2, my kids are just amazed by the different designs of the Playstation consoles, still fighting my son to get time in on the PS5 tho.

[@IIIISai]

Aww

[@Gorritym]

I smiled and cried a little reading this

[@Astro.Artist.07]

19:30 Everyone : The 9th Generation consoles are just overpriced poor gaming experiences Nintendo Switch : ... Everyone : Except you, you're fine

[@arostwocents]

Switch games are overpriced. Indies on Vita were £8 or £12 and I used to buy every interesting release and most others on sale. On Switch indies are £26 and on sale are over £20 for the big names like cult of the lamb. It's too expensive. Retail switch games are much too expensive too. No players choice range.

[@arostwocents]

I have bought less than 5 full price Indies on Switch as they are just way too greedy. If they sold them for £10 full price they would sell WAY more. Nintendo ended sales below 70p so I stopped buying cheap games. I used to buy all games that were sub 20p. Why not just make it so any game below £1 cannot be in the top sales chart after the sale period ends? Instead of fixing the supposed problem in a pro player way, they are just greedy and do it in a way that actually costs them tonnes of sales.

[@arostwocents]

You used to get actually great games down to 20p too, but that got ended. Now the big reductions are £2 minimum. Everything is incredibly greedy even on a small scale.

[@arostwocents]

There's no reason Odyssey shouldn't be £20 now. I would sooner do what I need to do to pirate than buy full price Switch games now they are over £40. But I just play retro now.

[@Astro.Artist.07]

@@arostwocentsWell that's not really Nintendo's fault. Gaming is technology, and technology's price increases quickly while innovation doesn't increase as fast. Sony and Xbox and even Steam are just as guilty of this. Their games are just as expensive as Nintendo's. All Nintendo does is choose the price of their own games. The indies decide their own prices, and so does Nintendo for their own games. So to me, it's not an in issue with Nintendo, it's an issue with the gaming industry as a whole. Nintendo is just trying its best to deal with it. And besides, we've had these prices ever since the switch launched in 2017, thats 7 years. By now, i'm just used to it.

[@tanork47]

1. No innovation 2. No creativity 3. No soul Those are my three reasons why. Also bonus 4. Greed : BattlePasses, 30-500 skins , SBMM , Safe gameplay, I miss my hobby.

[@monkfishy6348]

Gen 9 was more innovative and creative than gen 8, by far.

[@mobbsti661]

EOMM, SBMM has always existed

[@firstlast6226]

@@mobbsti661 Not this precise, aggressive and manipulative though

[@mobbsti661]

@@firstlast6226 Exactly, what you’re talking about is EOMM, not SBMM like everyone thinks it is. Just google it

[@mmmaxxx__]

Greed isn't a bonus, it's the main and most important factor. Capitalism encourages businesses to minimize costs and maximize returns, often at the expense of originality and innovation. However, this isn't always the case with PC. PC often supports more innovative and ambitious titles. Star Citizen and the upcoming GTA 6 are expected to fully leverage the power of modern PCs. Already released titles like Baldur's Gate 3 show how the PC can handle complex, richly detailed worlds. Other games like Cyberpunk 2077, Microsoft Flight Simulator, and The Witcher 3 continue to push the boundaries of what's possible. This demonstrates that, at least in the PC space, there's still room for creativity and technological advancement despite the pressures of capitalism.

[@Fourtune1]

Everything is multiplayer online, loot boxes, play to win. Bring back in person split screen co-op games that don’t require internet.

[@TheExtraordinarySaiyan0709]

FACTS!!!

[@Baukereg]

Overcooked, Tricky Towers, Mario Kart, Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime

[@CoolCatDoingAKickflip]

Nintendo

[@NintenSegaPlay]

So Nintendo?

[@TheBlackSeraph]

I got so sick of how toxic publishers pushed online components, DLC, pay-now-patch-later, etc., etc. back in the PS3 days that I outright refuse to connect my consoles to the internet. Now that both Gen 9 consoles require internet for at least disc authentication, it may well be that the Switch is the last console I buy.

[@sarthak_chandra]

The problem is, people from marketing backgrounds, who despised gaming have now become the managers. They just want to earn loads of money for their companies and themselves and have no regards for the players experience. They rank themselves so high that they price themselves at the rates at which Rockstar sells their games.

[@NFSBeast2365]

Screw Rockstar. They’re greedy

[@sarthak_chandra]

@@NFSBeast2365 but the experience they provide is worth every single penny. I completed RDR2 1.5 years ago and I was still playing it in free roam

[@Lancehendrix813]

@@NFSBeast2365 oh brother rockstar ain’t even the worst of them. They make shitloads of money but they also deliver big time

[@sarthak_chandra]

@@Lancehendrix813 he should check out EA for that case

[@Abel-Alvarez]

@@sarthak_chandra even worse. Microsoft and their egregious idea of charging people for online gaming (as well as following trends such as adding micro transactions, loot boxes, and even selling subpar titles for the same price as other quality AAA titles).

[@amoeba2091]

Nintendo doesn't get the credit they deserve. They are the tried and true og's of gaming.

[@MajorasMask2010]

@@amoeba2091 I defeinitely agree.

[@Cardioid2035]

What happened is the world has become a sanitized corporate dystopia tbh

[@HLl564]

Its true, everything is so boring now adays

[@borginburkes1819]

Greed destroys everything

[@tim7656]

*cyber punk music plays*

[@TheZenChii]

Facts

[@The_Cadaver]

You won, Charlie! You won!

[@Chernochegger]

Split screen is such a hassle nowadays too, since you need to log in an account for every player for modern games

[@johnparkes2452]

And you probably need an online subscription, if it’s not a thing somehow yet will probably be soon

[@silentslayergaming8469]

Can't even play call of duty split screen without the other account having a ps plus account it's insane

[@ghoulchan7525]

Local multiplayer shouldn't have to be difficult...

[@hdizzly]

So true. Playing FIFA on the same console is so tedious when you have to get around having EA accounts for everyone. Even if it takes a few seconds to figure out how to get around it, it's an unnecessary step we never had on the PS2.

[@therolando608]

On Nintendo games, split-screen is absolutely not a hassle.

[@970357ers]

The overriding problem: Gamers became a lower priority than profit and public image.

[@Michael-jv7uq]

Gamers are also lower quality, purchasing repetitive rehashes of prior year, paying X dollars for some cosmetic DLC and skipping on the more innovative titles.

[@CoralCopperHead]

Imagine thinking you were ever more important than profit.

[@H00H-H00H]

Oh and guess why the companies keep greeding lile that ? It’s because of the braindead gamers!

[@ChummyShaman]

This is why Nintendo reigns supreme when it comes to consoles, they still actually make games and haven't forgotten the fun.

[@Happy-Hunter89]

I think the explosion of retro gaming verifys what you are saying. People are more and more looking for ways to play older games that are not only brimming with nostalgia, but lets someone just pick up and play the dang game.

[@Otgel]

I personally believe that people also just straight up miss Story-rich single player experiences, imagine if people kept making games like perfect dark or black, imagine if we had 20 games at least relatively similar to that. But we don't, companies just seem to be really afraid of writing new stories for some reason.

[@youngOG87]

I’m not a retro gamer by any means but I definitely started playing my old games from 2018 and older because they are so much better than the new games that need money to have any fun.

[@dfabulous]

Also, retro games pretty much always had couch multiplayer. That's getting hard to find these days

[@dctrbrass]

For real. I bet there are lots of people out there now using emulators and buying old consoles. The stuff that I'm having any fun with are the occasional great SP games, like BG3.

[@johnjay370]

​@Otgel I know right. Tetris had a great story right. 😉😏

[@SlimImpossible]

Don’t forget it took just about 2 years before the actual customer instead of scalpers got their hands on one.

[@fresh1321]

@@SlimImpossible very true. And many like myself, likely got impatient and bought a PC

[@sasquatchhunter86]

I honestly believe that Sony and Microsoft kept that “wait for the supply drop system” longer than they actually needed to. It was a way to increase hype and demand. It worked until it didn’t.

[@daniil3815]

@@SlimImpossible it’s not entirely true. There was a deficit, so you could never buy it easily, but sony produced millions of consoles during those 2 years. Similar to the amount of ps4 during first 2 years. Demand during covid made it impossible to buy easily, but a lot of people got it.

[@greengamerguy623]

8th and 9th generation consoles are a scam anyone who buys these are allowing themselves to be scammed why are you paying for your internet and paying again to host games on your own internet shouldn't they pay you to host games for players on your internet?

[@SupraSav]

@@fresh1321 Good for you(except prices were rough at that time😅). PCs are better in almost every way. The only way consoles are better is if you are lazy.

[@CoolGuy55000]

I was playing Halo Infinite a year or so back. There was an Aussie guy in my team talking into his microphone, nobody else was talking and it was just him. He seemed like a really nice guy, just talking into the ether and he said that he'll keep talking to encourage other people to talk. I think he missed the older days when everybody would talk. I didn't really have a mic setup on my desktop PC so I couldn't engage with him. But I don't think I'll ever forget that guy trying to keep a dying breed of gamers alive.

[@muzamilnabinadroo]

@@CoolGuy55000 These days SBMM and most Online games being grindfest only has made all of us utterly toxic and the in-game chats are bullying fest where people take their frustration out on less skilled people.

[@itsAyndy]

I remember rainbow six vegas. Everyone use to talk tactfully giving intel on all entrances and exits. Real team work, swat gameplay. Now it’s just run and gun everyone fuming and camping lol

[@catacocamping874]

@@muzamilnabinadroonaw just people like you that have soft skin ruined online chat

[@Donikin]

@@CoolGuy55000 it’s primarily because of how heavily moderated games are now, to the point you feel like there’s a pair of eyes watching you play inside the game, as opposed to back then how swearing/trash-talking was to be expected from any online game.

[@GuyDudeman]

If playing ranked, or doubles, I'll still use the mic even if I'm the only one. In hopes they'll hear coms, and play more as a team, or that someone plugs in and turns their mic on.. It actually worked last night. I started, and then slowly but surely all 3 other people on the team got their mics going, we added eachother and played for hours.. felt just like how it should be.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

Which is why Switch is IMO the best of the 9th gen consoles (which was weirdly omitted here for unknown reasons). Most of the time I can actually play the game when I pop it in and there have actually been GAMES to play. Insane, right?

[@simplebutnotsolongname6642]

@@PhazonBlaxor Probably because it isn’t considered one. The Switch, while thriving this generation, came out in the middle of the 8th gen; and hardware wise, is barely more powerful than it’s Predecessor, the Wii U, and still less than the Xbox One. It’s not much different in concept to say the the PS4 pro and Xbox One X, which were mid-gen refreshes that offer a bit more to their original, but not too much to consider them technical leaps. The Gap is way too wide to consider the Switch along side the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 It is a 9th generation console, though, by definition. Facts are fun, because they stay facts, whether one likes the fact or not.

[@simplebutnotsolongname6642]

@@PhazonBlaxor What’s also fun is that you haven’t refuted a point I’ve made. If by definition, you mean that it’s the next piece of Nintendo hardware, then no; companies releasing new hardware within a generation isn’t a new occurrence (Sega and Atari have done it long ago). It’s only fact if it’s objectively and uncontestedly true. But the thing is, the Switch is rather controversial in this aspect, since people still aren’t in agreement where The Switch falls into In terms of hardware generation, so it can’t be fact. What is fact, is that the Switch came in the middle of the previous generation, just before Sony and Microsoft released the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X respectively. Another thing that is fact is how Nintendo tries to effectively erase the Wii U by porting over many of its games to the Switch, and heavily market them for the Switch; especially since many people still don’t know of the Wii U’s existence as Nintendo’s previous home console. It as if to say, the Switch was the console Nintendo wanted to sell us all along that generation, without any baggage that led to that. Otherwise, I would’ve agreed with you if the following were true: A) If Sony and Xbox never made the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, and just made the Next generation hardware instead of mid-gen upgrades; releasing them around 2018-2019. B) Nintendo released it way later just before the PS5 and Xbox Series X in around 2019, and that it was just as capable as the Vanilla Xbox One and PS4. If you’re interested, I recommend Adam Koralik’s video on the subject of What Generation the Nintendo Switch is in. He touched on it a lot more and covers the semantics of the term too.

[@PhazonBlaxor]

@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 I see a long wall of text I won't even bother to read. Go to Wikipedia and see which generation it is. I don't make the rules dude, but neither do you.

[@simplebutnotsolongname6642]

@@PhazonBlaxor Yeah, rely on a website that anyone can edit and rewrite info on instead. Unless you truly believe Wikipedia writes all rules of the world instead of using logic, I’m just telling it like it is, giving a reasonable explanation as to why the Switch is not a particular generation of a console. The guy in the video probably wouldn’t agree with you either considering he doesn’t reference the Switch with the other 9th gen consoles. Peace be with you, friend.

[@iforgot87872]

Developers getting rid of couch co-op also doesn't help consoles flex one of their killer features over most PC games.

[@warmike]

Why is it even a killer feature over PC? I've played some split screen games on PC (Cuphead, OG Helldivers) with one player on a gamepad and another on a keyboard, and also HotSeat multiplayer in turn-based strategies (Heroes of Might and Magic, Total War)

[@jakemana]

Only Nintendo is really strong there with a lot of party and co-op games to choose from. Otherwise I sadly agree with you.

[@peterkolesar4020]

​@@warmikeit was always the killer feature over a PC along with plug&play mainly because of form factor. Saying this as hardcore pc gamer these two things were the only reasons I ever respected consoles for. The luxury of meeting up at the penthouse with the boys with a PS4 launching FIFA in a matter of minutes. Sure we could do that on a PC with even better graphics but the hustle was just not worth it.

[@dud1f3r]

@@warmike It just ain't the same. Dual keyboard/mouse support doesn't work 90% of the time without specialized software, and using gamepads can work, but a lot of the games people want to play split-screen with their friends on PC is just easier to do over internet, since it doesn't require a subscription service. There's something magical about playing Mario Party or Kart in the same room, or playing split-screen Halo. My fondest memories of 7th gen were me, my cousin, and my uncle all playing Halo Reach for the first time on 3 player split-screen using a "small" CRT having to prop the Xbox a certain way to get the disc drive to read discs. Modern consoles have lost that split screen (mostly due to the games not supporting them, not the consoles themselves in all fairness).

[@squeekyclean1644]

@@iforgot87872 there’s no voice chat anymore in gaming? I haven’t played online since 2018 and that was with Xbox 360. . I’m not getting a console if there’s no voice chat . All these woke beta ppl banned chat

[@bcj842]

I feel like Nintendo Switch is going to be the last console that really has that “Christmas Day” effect…

[@andyfletchxr]

just wait until the switch 2 comes out later this year

[@debeb5148]

​@@andyfletchxr Nintendo has basically already confirmed the next console isn't coming out this year.

[@jmjohnson85]

Nintendo has the market cornered. They have stood firm on the belief in their exclusive franchises. Looks like there will always be good reason to buy Nintendo consoles!

[@bcj842]

@@jmjohnson85 As much as I hate how overprotective Nintendo is with their brands, I always enjoy using their hardware. Love my GameCube.

[@andyfletchxr]

@@debeb5148 :(

[@MajorMusicGeek]

Microtransactions should be illegal to be honest. I always wait until games go on sale I will never spend $89.99 On any game it's ridiculous

[@NickFryer-qb5ui]

Same I rarely buy games full price. Last game I paid full price for was Zelda tears of the Kingdom

[@MajorMusicGeek]

@NickFryer-qb5ui For me was Red Dead Redemption 2 On day one

[@IIIISai]

@@NickFryer-qb5ui totk lowkey was underwhelming

[@NickFryer-qb5ui]

​@@IIIISai that's your opinion

[@ibnulbevan8020]

@Major-Music-Geek micro transaction and buying games with price are two different things.I might buy games on sales also on full price, but I've never spent any real money on unlocking video game loot boxes or dlc.

[@charchitacharya9477]

@ZenkaiGoose You have surely got a quality of capturing attention with your speech bro , I was totally listening to youtube on autoplay , but its either your voice or just the content which forced me to pay attention.. in other word(s) Goosetastic video 💪

[@RiddleWhisperer]

This generation feels like last generation Remastered

[@JonCom3dy]

😂

[@LWNightmareSheriff]

Pretty much

[@Tyler_W]

With somehow even more terrible, unfinished, and uninspired games.

[@emeraldwind4897]

Remake-Series X Remake-Station 5

[@thescrout9831]

@@Tyler_W and even more corporate greed

[@michaeljamesjohnson]

I’m an old Gen X dude. Gaming has been a big part of my life since the 80s. Unfortunately, to me, greed has killed gaming. This has slowly happened over the last decade. I refuse to support or partake in the constant cash shops, gacha loot box, battle pass, ads, etc., crap that has ruined my life long hobby. I pretty much have gone back to retro gaming. Those games also respect my time.

[@commandershepard9920]

Frustrated millennial here who can relate. I've worked hard to hit the gym, lose weight, eat healthier; all these great things and I was looking forward to a new GPU or finally getting one of these new consoles to treat myself; but... dang, I completely agree, the only games I like and get excited to play and/or revisit are all older games from maybe early 2000s/90s/80s. So this new hardware that I want to be excited about would just be wasted.

[@Zippy_Zolton]

don't be afraid to get a PC or even a used PS4 (if you haven't already) to try out modern indie games that go for the tried and true formula of being a complete game start to finish without fomo mechanics, there's great titles made by smaller people like Animal Well and Trail Out that respect your time and give you a stellar experience

[@kpgaming13]

Sadly the retro gaming market is now abused by greedy scalpers

[@programa11338]

​@@commandershepard9920 I think the same way, I was thinking about getting a new GPU also(I have an RX 6600), but no games of this "new" gen makes you feel attached to it, I find myself more browsing the web and going back to emulators than playing actual PC games, and when I go back to PC games, it's an older one. Like now, I'm having a lot of fun replaying fallout 3, I don't have any other current game that makes me feel the same way.

[@funkle2645]

@@kpgaming13 yeah just pirate everything lmao. No reason not to at this point

[@whiskeybuddha1995]

I love how they're talking about releasing the ps5 pro and upgraded xbox, meanwhile they havent even come remotely close to maximizing the capabilities of both. Brilliant.

[@curlAlldizzle05]

This

[@Malinkadink]

What haven't they maximized? We got games running at 30 fps still, these machines are from 2020 using hardware from 2018, they're ancient at this point, pro consoles are long overdue.

[@essadakkam]

So the best solution never anyone in the whole world buys their next improved consoles even reviewers to show them how all players are so frustrated and angry of them. Let them bankrupt as they made us buy their garbage for nothing.

[@broghad8241]

@@Malinkadink If any gamer really cared about the latest and greatest best specs, they'd get a PC already The comment was clearly talking about the quality of games coming out to full utilize the capabilities of the current consoles There's nothing on the market right now pushing any kind of limit especially on console

[@virgilbradford5714]

I'd love a PC but a decent one is wayyy to expensive things break on them is jus not in the realm of possibility for some gamers unfortunately 😕

[@LobodArcis]

Been saying this for 20 plus years, thank you for confirming what I've been telling other gamers.

[@SKX996]

One of my favorite "what are we even doing?" moments of this generation of games was Sony Santa Monica saying the PS4 wasn't powerful enough for their vision of Ragnarok will be...and then it ended up a cross-gen game anyway.

[@Shaggii_]

Greed

[@CodyCampbell-CodytheHero]

I tried to find this quote and I don't think this exists.

[@tazn1]

Sorry, but Santa Monica NEVER said their vision of Ragnarok on PS4 wasn't possible 🤣 Why would it be? God of War Remake was planned as a trilogy from the start. I don't get why you guys lie to yourself to make you feel bad about consoles you bought. its so weird.

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

Sounds like fake news

[@Zain24383]

I would ditch console gaming if learning how to build a PC didn't feel so overwhelming and it doesn't help how so many pc gamers make everything sound like you're building a rocket using unnecessary, complicated tech phrases just so they can stroke their own ego for owning a PC

[@crimsonarrow]

As a Nintendo fan who skipped most generations of Playstation since PS2, I bought a new playstation recently and had no idea you'd need to take so long to install the games. It instantly did indeed invoke the same reaction.

[@alphatrion100]

Ps2 and ps3 were excellent. It went down hill with ps4

[@NexusKin]

PS3 was the last truly good one, it definitely went downhill with the PS4 and after.

[@badfoot]

I had PS3 and sold it after a month of having, mainly for all the downloading & updates it needed. This is because my house can only get Internet via satellite or mobile data which has limited bandwidth, data caps and costs more. So today's systems are out of the question.

[@jean-yvessimon8563]

i bought a ps3 for bluray movie multimedia, then discovered the fantastic games. ps4 came out, and i realized i didn t enjoy it anymore. there were some good games, but.. no free online, everything was just boring... now i play from time to.time on pcsteamlinux, waiting on good deals on older games. those download times are killing the fun

[@Comkill117]

PS2 was genuinely the best console ever as someone who didn’t get one until 2016. PS3 was ok, but nowadays it’s become a nightmare to use outside of playing PS1 games on it, what with all the updates, profile authorization BS, and the store on it being made intentionally shittier so you don’t use it (they wanted to shut it down a few years ago but begrudgingly kept it up in a state where it might as well be down).

[@nightfall4207]

I feel bad for all the people who payed the scalpers price for the ps5 just to play the same games with ‘4k’ graphics on their old tv that doesn’t support 4k

[@Cussmem07]

It is %100 on them. At that time PS5 had 3 games at most and they still bought it like true consoomers.

[@cultofhampter]

@@nightfall4207 I have a ps5 with a 4k TV, the ps5 is being a l1ttle bitch and keeps trying to gaslight me into thinking "this TV doesn't support 2160p"

[@brandonwells2862]

I am one of those people (paid $1000). I wanted to get it for my brother on Christmas and just decided to bite the bullet since I had saved up a decent amount of spending money at that time.

[@BB-ed4om]

Tv should come first anyone who bought a ps5 and doesn’t have a nice tv is a mark.

[@BB-ed4om]

@@cultofhampterit probably doesn’t. Some “4K” tvs aren’t really full 4k.

[@TimmyTheSnail]

This was honestly such a well made video. Your narration and jokes genuinely had me laughing. I will be watching more of your channel in the future good sir

[@jeffcourty6321]

There is something nobody seems to have noted: Limitations brings creativity. Most, if not every, clever game mechanics we got in the past were due to hardware limitations and toughtfull ways to squeeze the maximum fun out of it. As a professionnal chef and a game dev hobbyist I can assure you that's its far easier to work around stricts ressources. Give me every ingredients in the world to make a dish and I may stumble, but give me 5 and I will optimize it to death. Same in gamedev, the best innovations in recent years came from gamejams. Why? Strict and arbitrary limitations

[@themodfather9382]

That's right, every polygon in super Mario 64 was part of the world and you could walk on it or kick off. So that's how your world is now

[@-KIMISAFOX]

That is an insanely accurate analogy.... I was trying to mentally pinpoint any reason I can find that these devs just feel like they aren't taking advantage the tools they have available. The number of games that actually feel next gen is staggeringly low.

[@TheOldest]

Makes are very good point. Also supports why the Nintendo Switch has so successful despite being the least powerful console on the market even on release.

[@22568307r]

feels like lack of creativity, regardless of limitations

[@computertutorials1286]

@@TheOldest That's because graphics and power aren't why people play games. One thing the best sellers of the 6th, 7th, and 8th gen consoles have in common is that they're not known for cutting edge graphics, and it'll likely be that way with 9th gen. Look at games like Pokemon Go, Fortnite, Palworld, Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Baldur's Gate 3, Flappy Bird, Lethal Company, and so on. Those games did well because people had fun playing them, which is a goal that big publishers are killing off in favor of, money. Indie devs have been a godsend.

[@tariq7408]

My biggest issues with this generation of gaming are: 1.) Preemptive game updates, patches, and installs (especially for physical games)- That’s like buying a DVD to watch a movie, and then having to wait for the movie to download… the dumbest thing ever 2.) Micro-transactions- I’m not paying you to play a game that I just paid $70-$110 for. I’m also not paying for that experience to be enhanced. 3.) Ignoring good ports and remasters for terrible and/or unnecessary ones- To this day, I don’t understand why GTA 5 has been sold on 3 different console generations, but we have yet to get a GTA 4 Port. And then Rockstar ruined the trilogy remaster😑 4.) Games that aren’t supported by reverse compatibility- This is mainly a PS5 issue, but you can’t tell me that my $600 paperweight isn’t optimized and advanced enough to run games that they PS3 and PS2 could… bffr. 5.) Developers releasing horrendous titles- Saints Row 2022… enough said.

[@johnbartender3451]

1: this is why I have gone digital for the 8th gen console (ps4), the data on disc is useless since I usually have to redownload the entire game anyway.

[@kingsgaming2265]

My only hope is Rockstar games

[@LittleYbird]

Even for Xbox retro compatibility, only a portion of Xbox 360/Xbox games are retro compatibles. Furthermore, generally no FPS or graphics improvements.

[@sexyguy3647]

@@kingsgaming2265 That's very naive, Rockstar is the new EA. GTA5 has been milked to death

[@secondchance6603]

Can I add, being forced to have the multiplayer component of a game taking up valuable space on my hard drive when I don't play the online multiplayer of the game.

[@SoloBruh1]

I remember that feeling on a Saturday morning. Waking up before the rest of my family so I could jump on the GameCube or the PS2 and play for an extra hour or two. The silence in the house and the sheer calming joy of just playing games. Now I stare at my computer screen debating what's even worth playing.

[@lengerer]

@@SoloBruh1 that's just old age. You're more mature, playing games is different when you're old

[@rodrigo4379]

i never had so many games like I have now on the pc and I dont play anything... just soo sad games nowadays are worse

[@Wooltrack726]

​@@rodrigo4379 True thats why i play older games ususally

[@kunknown2340]

@@lengerer maturing sucks.

[@Dram1984]

@@lengererthat’s true. You can’t go back and trying is just a road to heartbreak. Embrace growing up, it’s fine.

[@dreamerlotus]

The happy montage at the end of folks getting their consoles was wonderful. So much nostalgia ❤ reminds me of waking up Christmas morning, my parents bought a Sega Mega Drive for me and my sister, they'd set it up ready to play. Will never forget how much fun we had playing Sonic 😊. The magic has gone, likely in part due to age. I hope kids these days get to feel as much joy, sadly with all the extra costs involved I'm sure parents must struggle to splash out knowing it isn't just the console and game you have to buy. With paid season passes, DLCs and pay to win items it is an extremely expensive endeavour.

[@Rainman103]

Man, the ending hit hard. I remember in the 1990s growing in the Philippines we were struggling to make ends meet financially. We could never afford to buy a gaming console, so i would just always go to my friend's house to play. Imagine my surprise when one Christmas morning, my parents got me a present which turned out to be a SNES. Even though i was only 9 years old at the time, i burst into tears because I knew my parents sacrificed just to do that for me and my siblings. 😭😭😭 Your montage really brought back a lot of wonderful memories, and for that I'm thankful. First time watcher, AND subscriber to your channel. Keep up the good work!!

[@rokko_fable]

you're a bit older than I am, but I have similar, slightly different story. we were poor, and would go to friends and play their SNES after it released. well, one Christmas we got a console-sized gift..... But it wasn't the SNES! it was the re-designed NES.... my parents bought it because it was cheaper and they didn't know the difference. haha. We were ungrateful and upset and deserved punishment.

[@cola-warthunder]

Where I am PCs are a lot more common than consoles and I had a shitty old PC until about a year ago, at the same time I also got a PS4. Unfortunately I already grew out of having any hype for consoles so after a few matches of MKX I just stopped playing it and now dad has practically taken it for himself. Not like I care, I have a pc.

[@smo-king6504]

I just know it wasn't a SNES but a Dendy

[@rickyrichreacts9667]

Nothing I hate more than finally buying the game you been wanting, going home, putting the disc in to find out it needs to install it…. And then update it. I miss playing new games once I put them in instead of waiting an hour or more to finally play it

[@ChukedIII]

It's not the install, it's the fact that the game is like 200gb

[@RaftFx]

Games are getting bigger and bigger, what did you expect ?

[@SonyPlaystationJapan]

@@RaftFx optimisation, games have unnecessary files. COD for example

[@ThaArabScarab]

I'm glad I don'r have to deal with multiple discs for the same game anymore hahaha

[@RaftFx]

@@SonyPlaystationJapan thats also true

[@andrewkruzienski770]

My Dad was able to get me a PS2 for the 2000 Christmas. It was awesome. Still my favorite gift to this day.

[@hernangcc]

Oh, god. I will never forget getting the PS2 and Sonic Heroes for Christmas as a child. We are so lucky to have experienced this.

[@TheControlBlue]

Now it's time to give the next generation those kind of memories

[@intrance96]

@@TheControlBlue Tell that to the investors of console companies.

[@space3058]

You brought me so much joy reliving the pass especially the last min of the videos I grow up poor and everyone around had a console expect me and I just could remember that one Christmas when I absolutely did not expect a PlayStation but only clothes what I would always get every year and my mom telling me wait there’s one more let me go get it and as soon as I saw her walk in with that box it was like I automatically knew what was in it priceless feeling one I hope to give my kids one day thanks again man your my boy blue

[@jpg294]

I haven't used voice chat in years because it just devolved into screaming kids, people blasting music constantly, and people eating. It just became absolutely annoying to have it on.

[@criticalthinker7822]

@@jpg294 Its also the grown men yelling like children. I actually cut my headphones off and left the jack in the controller.

[@TarsoJahnRibeiro]

thats not so different from the 360 era

[@zaboomawho]

@@jpg294 it was always like that, sir

[@SlongestKongest]

So no change?

[@undeadhydra238]

@@TarsoJahnRibeiro except that you get penalized for saying the wrong thing and you get either ignored or harassed by someone just for saying hi. Its the toxicity from this era’s non disciplined children and mentally challenged adults which created this need for censorship. Not only that but companies placing more priority for shareholders’ word over the word of the customers that really caused the dominoes to begin falling… greed and sloth always looking for the cheapest and fastest way to make money without effort and this started with activision. Activision is the beginning of corruption for gaming as a whole as they began growing in influence and profit.. the more money they made the more bolder they became by implementing more ways to profit while using game studios to take the blame for the bad things and take credit when the studios do something meaningful and good. This practice ended up being adopted to most other companies which brought the inevitable demise of gaming as a whole. Greed is the driving factor in gaming nowadays and thats why the old gamers are abandoning gaming

[@thomasbrewster193]

Why does it take 5 minutes to boot up the newest cod. Logos, loading screens, cutscene, battle pass, restart for update, more loading screens, and finally a message board

[@braydontomak]

@@thomasbrewster193 bc time is $$$

[@discipline_clip]

@@thomasbrewster193 agreed it should be faster

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

First mistake was putting in a CoD disc.

[@yearginclarke]

@@Patrick-y4d1z I like the old COD's B02 and older, MWR was alright, and that's about it. Among tons of other annoying things, the new ones lost me with all these stupid skins and whatnot...I like to see soldiers that actually at least somewhat resemble a real soldier, not a bunch of people running around looking like nicki minaj, snoop dogg, or whatever ridiculous garbage they think is cool. Stuff like that just completely ruins it for me.

[@antheunis011]

Man, i remember on ps3, slot in cod mw2 disc, in 10 seconds i was loading a mp lobby.

[@chrisherrera4439]

I have never commented on a KZbin video in 10 years, but oh that montage got me. My dad, who to this day has never really played a video game in his life, stood outside of a toys r us on a business trip to buy me a 32x and Star Wars arcade for the Sega genesis. He traveled a lot and normally he would give me the little bag of airplane peanuts. I was floored. I played that game for literal days without stopping, My dad gave it a good try, but he just could not figure out the controls. This is just one of one hundred stories that I can think of growing up. Video games brought my friends and I together, got me through some hard times, and really built a sense of community (I miss my FFXI guild). This content is something different in the sea of KZbin. A call for positive change, showing what is great about this medium we love. I look forward to much more content in the future. This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing your talent.

[@moshed4324]

FFXI ❤️ I played back in Odin server in PC and PS2

[@DarcyWalker]

Funny seeing Nintendo who is thriving during this generation not being mentioned. But truly this was a great video

[@cabeca1438]

Forgot to mention the most normalized scam of all time, requiring to pay a subscription fee to play online. Me and my friends ended up moving away from consoles and to PC back in early PS4 due to it

[@spartanx169x]

Lets make it free. Who pays for the maintenance of the software and the servers? That cost continues. Its not a one time cost. If you want the game maker to pay for that, then expect every game to be $300 or more.

[@noahjwhite]

@@spartanx169x who pays for the free PC service?

[@lifeofameji]

@@noahjwhite Hit me up when he answers 😂😂😂😂😂

[@akebo92]

I actually would have never gotten into souls games if not for ps+. Bloodborne was free one month and I got it. Ended up being in my top 5 favorite all time.

[@cabeca1438]

@@spartanx169x Most games use their own servers, not sony's or Microsoft's. You really think the PS Plus/Xbox Live membership funds maintenance for all of them? And what about PC games? What funds their servers if there's no subscription service? Wake up man, you're being scammed.

[@oweezy3rdi.]

seeing nicki minaj in COD is where I draw the line

[@RedKnight26]

@@oweezy3rdi. it's depressing to see how desperate Activision is

[@nicholascharles9625]

Cant have nicki minaj ruining a propaganda game

[@evasionbycartwheel12345]

It shows you where their priorities lie It's depressing. And they hope you won't care . Which is also depressing.

[@scrittle]

@@nicholascharles9625 Your comment marks a different problem in modern gaming: politics in gaming. There was always politics in gaming, but it's becoming increasingly prevalent as online discourse is getting easier and easier. I don't judge you for it, but that sense of innocence trudges the fun you could have playing games.

[@nicholascharles9625]

@scrittle I'm not against politics in games. What I'm against is the politics it pushes of America good everyone else bad

[@qb3540]

Greed and incompetence that what happened.

[@Exodia_Misogynist]

You have to thank DEI for that one

[@Exodia_Misogynist]

Thank DEI for that

[@aetherland1883]

And DEI

[@tezcanaslan2877]

And corona

[@Nihil_Inanis]

@@aetherland1883 do you yappers even know what that means?

[@jordanshopland0926]

First time watching 1 of your video and I couldn't go 5 minutes without you are a very funny man. "Isn't great we can talk" "if I ever see you I'm gonna" just brilliant.

[@meteordaddy8638]

Problem with companies nowadays is they just want to replicate the success of LoL, Fortnite, and the famous games nowadays. They forgot to innovate and think of new game genres or new form factors.

[@Tyler_W]

Consequence of bloated budgets. The higher the financial risk, the more risk averse investors get. It's a problem in Hollywood too.

[@garsrandom4358]

They also forget to bring back old and /or forgotten game genres Like how Tour de Pizza and Summitsphere brought back what we now call « Wario-Likes » with games like the phenomenal Pizza Tower and the underrated ANTONBLAST

[@CoralCopperHead]

Because sidescrolling platformers haven't been done to death, right?

[@gothicbbmelvin]

What's hilarious is as much as I don't really like league or fort. They 100% revolutionized their respective genres

[@LilGreasyAndEm]

Those people receiving their gifts really put a smile on my face

[@mcstyle24]

It did to me just now :)

[@ChampBoa]

Same man, same🥹

[@MazzaRazak]

Fr fr 😢

[@konstantinkunz2256]

For me it put tears in my eyes and sadness in my heart. Because I feel like I whas born a decade or two too late.

[@Digigavuk]

It put a tear in my eye because I miss them days, midnight queuing for CoD: WaW, MW2 and BO1... ahhh. Also getting home after school to the xbox my mum had just bought me.

[@PunkXone]

I genuinely hope your subsciber base goes up high. Really high. This is the kind of gaming content people would watch for hours in one sitting.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Thank you so much for the amazing comment @PunkXone

[@OJaN22010]

I was surprised when I first found this channel and I watched Every Rockstar Games video that the channel only has 40k subs😭

[@verylongchannelhandle]

@@ZenkaiGoose I remember watching your Netflix video and you having like 2K subs or so, you've blown up recently! All I can say is, keep it up, you're only going up from here

[@cameronbrawner]

@@OJaN22010 literally same dude

[@MichaelM28]

Unlikely to happen given the fact that he's an xbox fanboy

[@KyaniteBear]

This was way too good of a KZbin video. I did not expect it to be so well put together! As one of the hardcore online players of Halo 2 and 3, a 90s baby who received N64 the Christmas after release, and a gamer who has owned almost every gaming system released since this, this really made it hard not to get emotional. My PS5 stopped working after only 2 years, and I cannot help but think... I'm a 35 year old who just wants to play Xbox Series X without seeing ads... can I pay extra for no ads? lol

[@GullyFootTony]

The ps3/360 era for me was the best time for gaming. Loads of great quality games packed with content & not a battle pass in sight

[@davidnzlabour2659]

Agree. The best era. Plus we had such a good variety of games. It was just amazing and really fun.

[@calibomber209]

PS3 free online and when you bought games it came w a free digital copy. Wireless controllers, sick games. Fun times.

[@jensenraylight8011]

Yes, because you can get away with slapping some Pixelated Texture, While the Current Gen, Everything your saw is Modeled, Sculpted, Textured by hand, every tiny detail, Not to mention the Character are also Modeled and Sculpted down to a Single Pore, it's Crazy time consuming. I'm a software engineer myself, and Programming isn't the Most time consuming Part, Creating the World, the Characters, Weapon, Monster, that took significant amount of time, Not to mention the Talent required to Reach AAA level Artists is so much higher, than the Mountain Game Programmer had to reach and Gamers today are way more entitled, judgemental, and overall can't accept something if it wasn't exceptional.

[@calibomber209]

@@RandoLePerson I have the backwards compatible ps3. My love for ps2 is there. But ps3 got me into online gaming. Also got a nice 3d tv same time and it was another world.

[@calibomber209]

@@RandoLePerson battlefield 3&4 both had digital codes and free ps4 code upgrade. I used to sell them. What do you mean? It’s the game that comes w free code.

[@Mike_Nowlan]

I think major key in the communication in games back then was the fact that not everyone had a cell phone. I remember being so excited telling my parents I could talk and send messages to my friends on Xbox because I didn’t have a phone yet.

[@nood1le]

Tru dat i had sex tru xbox 360 party chat

[@Montgomerygolfgator]

This is history repeating itself. When the topic of the 1983 video game crash is brought up, you see a lot of the same things. Game companies were following the money, selling lots of awful quality games until gamers got fed up. What's not often brought up, is how at the same time inexpensive home computers like the Commodore 64, Apple II, and TRS series were exploding in growth and the games for those small PCs were booming. It's all happening again.

[@jjay350]

Yup, PC gaming has really been exploding in popularity while it seems like most people are complaining about how disappointing the console experience has become.

[@puddlez96]

Imagine buying a console in 2024. I got out of the ecosystem after PS3 and Xbox360 I saw the decline coming. I can't imagine playing anything not on PC these days.

[@Nor-tc8vz]

If I recall the crash was in the United States only.

[@laurencefraser]

said video game crash was entirely limited to the north american market, mind you. The current issues are... not. Also, the indie part of the industry is still trucking along just fine, it's really only the AAA part that's having problems (in part because they insist that everything must be not only AAA, but record breaking biggest release ever AAA, rather than ever making smaller, Cheaper, titles that are inherently able to be lower risk Without crippling their ability to be good...)

[@Shaggii_]

Yup, and you know PC gaming has increased when you can go into Target and they have a whole section of stuff for PC like keyboards, mics, even stream deck equipment.

[@fakkizh]

You have grown so hard.. You deserve soooo many subs. Crisp content!

[@Noise_H]

Buying a new console feels more like a necessary evil instead of an upgrade

[@dividedstatesofamerica2520]

Just like politics and life in general now.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@TallTaleGael precisely this. Got a PS5 to play with some of my friend while still having the PS4 laying around. The only good thing of it is literally the features of the controller - the bad thing is just how cheap it feels, for the console it just feels laggy and that's about it - the whole design in it (including the connection issues on voice compared to PS4) feels absolutely useless and like the devs on it didn't really want to do it - had that thing for like 3 months before I sold it off on ebay again. There's just no point in a console that does everything worse than the previous one somehow all while you gotta pay monthly/yearly just to play online - for the money the subscription adds to the bill you may as well buy a new high end PC every time a new console gen arrives - and on that one you're not only stuck with the few games available but also can choose what to play with and entirely customize the controller layout - which rather brings up the question why consoles have such a hard time to allow for that.

[@mugthemagpie3001]

I got Series S because a gaming PC has been a major expense in 2021, and even now still is. Why to replace a laptop that can do everything except for any serious gaming, if you have Series S for comfortable gaming? At least that was me a year ago. Now? I am considering milking out of the Series S and never returning to gaming once it dies. The issue isn't the price of the gaming PC. It's immediate affordability and immediate replacement of parts, should something happen... What is the fault of the adequate wages. I am from Poland and the majority of Poles do not earn more than 60% of the national average wage.

[@mugthemagpie3001]

@@Unknown_Genius disagreed on the sub model being equal to price of the gaming PC. I have been using Xbox One then Series S for the past 8 years and ONLY RECENTLY I have hit the price of the gaming PC that would be capable of running modern games. After almost a decade of console gaming. But keep in mind I am from the EU, so not only are all our electronics more expensive but also they slap 23% tax on top, what already is bad for Polish realities where a small group of people earn the average national wage. I mean I could get a gaming PC. But that would mean dropping socializing and any other hobby. Are video games worth such a sacrifice? Absolutely not.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@mugthemagpie3001 "for the past 8 years and ONLY RECENTLY I have hit the price of the gaming PC that would be capable of running modern games" that's absolutely wrong. Budget gaming PCs in the range of 500-700€ (obviously EU prices because... Euro) can run modern games (obviously not at the highest settings 4k 144fps) without that much trouble, what you get after those 8 years is a PC that got higher specs than your console had - hence why I said that you can easily upgrade to a new higher end PC every console gen. The sub costs solely exist to turn a profit on the console (you essentially end up with a higher price than the hardware is worth after years of using it). I honestly left my console social structures behind a decade ago honestly. Mainly because It didn't feel right to be confined in a space with so little to choose from - Videogames are my hobby to waste some time and have a good experience (which on console is highly limited), for socializing I go outside - not to mention that the hard headed people I knew back then did treat switching to another console or to pc as "treason" so naturally I cut those ties without a second doubt.

[@alexfaucheux6138]

My main thing is: Why would I want to pay to play online when I can do it for free on PC? I have a PS5 and they now charge $80 / year just to play online, which killed it for me

[@poppyalt7427]

I distinctly remember both when NSO came and brought the "expansion pack" version, when anyone complained about it we got told "Xbox and PlayStation have been doing this forever why are you upset now, it's normal". That's the problem, we are upset about that too, it shouldn't be normal to pay hundreds of dollars for a console, controllers, at least one game which are commonly prices between $30-70 now, and then pay a recurring subscription to be able to play online.

[@ottom.3094]

Congrats on thinking for yourself, and not following the majority. You're absolutely right - no reason to own the consoles - pay their online membership - lose backwards capability - and deal with their corporate greed. PC gaming + switch (2) is the move. Ps5 games are coming to PC anyways. So why own a ps5 - unless you really really wanna play that (1) naughty dog game that may release in this generation. My thing is - if you can wait 10 years for naughty dog's game - a few extra months for a BETTER version on PC is better.

[@strider00svk40]

To be able to play games on PC would cost you every 2 years at least a graphic card upgrade which is usually the most expensive upgrade and the cost of a good one is similar to the whole console. So maybe that's why people buy consoles. I used to be a PC gamer, until I realized this habit emptied my wallet quicker than any other hobby including mountain biking 😁😁😁. But that's my take, everybody to their own.

[@toututu2993]

​@@strider00svk40What kind of rich idiot would buy a new graphic card every 2 years when a 5 years gpu can play all the modern games?

[@djglxxii]

@@strider00svk40 I've been building PCs for decades, and it's gotten to the point I don't want the hassel. I can buy a console, like the PS5, and I'm done. Turn the system on, select the game, play. No remembering login passwords for 50 accounts, constant OS and driver updates. Screw that. Plus, I can easily play on a 60" TV.

[@neophenom]

The best way to game, is to always be on a delay of about two years. That two years gap, makes absolutely everything you experience technically polished, and very affordable. Pre-orders and rushing to play the latest is for KZbinrs, teens, and reviewers. No self respecting gamer would bother with either.

[@SaintKnight42]

That's the way to go, with the sales they have too

[@Andrejr316]

Yup I got the PS4 3 years into it's lifestyle and the PS5 last year December. Always wait about 3-4 years into the consoles lifecycle that's when it starts to have a lot of games💯💯💯

[@neophenom]

@@Andrejr316 Exactly! Especially now that the difference in games is comparably small. Is not like you are play PS1 games while everyone is on PS3, kinda gap.

[@krob8823]

100. They always do mid gen refreshes anyway. And launch titles by that time are cheaper.

[@fg6971]

Sometimes a generation delay is good to do. Like how PS4 versions of PS3 games have better graphics and frame rates. Games like Skyrim, GTA5, Dead Island, Borderlands Series, and Far Cry 3.

[@0pticalstatic832]

Started watching your “Played every game” videos… You sir are cooking! Love your videos.

[@tron0150]

PS5 feels like PS4 Pro Max.

[@SF61984]

It's the same console... same games with an extra 60fps boost mode!!! Returnal was very good, but that's about your lot, folks!!

[@MYNAMECHEF_FilthyFrank]

PS4 Pro>PS5

[@Deeplycloseted435]

8K!!!!!! Loading screens are a thing of the past!!! Haptic feedback revolutionizes the experience!!!! ….remember all that crap?

[@JayUchiha17]

​@SF61984 was games have a 60 fps boost and side from the remakes and remastered games. Every game should have 60fps but non of the ps4 games have 60fps boost on ps4. Except for 1 or 2 games. Why isn't red dead redeption not in 60 fps. What about shadow of mordor? Or tomb raider or every EA sports game or driving game made for ps4. The ps5 is such a damn joke at this point. The ps4 has more features. Ps4 have media player and you can connect to you home server to view your own content. The ps5 is out 4 years now and the will never put it in and no one seems to care.

[@Andrejr316]

Yup!!! Just playing all the PS4 Games on the PS5 🎮🎮🎮

[@writtenbyjordan]

Blockbuster rentals would be terrible now, haha. By the time the game installs, you'd have to take it back to the store

[@Marsiena]

Consoles don't feel like "dream machines" anymore, they're bootleg PCs now.

[@jonathaningram8157]

but PC gaming suffer from shaders compilation stutters and tons of various issues (driver, system, bad HDR implementation, etc). It's more pleasant playing on console and I have a very powerful PC (7800X3D, RTX 4090)

[@DrundeFPS]

@@jonathaningram8157 if you use Windows, that is the reason why the system has issues...

[@notaliablename2538]

@@jonathaningram8157 fair criticism, but arguably fixable 80% of the time with either specific modifications or updating. Also would take the ability to mod games over a 30+ fps increase over 60 any time xD

[@jonathaningram8157]

@@notaliablename2538 I play at 4k 120 fps on an OLED display (really fast reaction time) and a tiny tiny stutter is clearly visible on PC and for a lot of modern games, a large majority is simply unfixable. At first I thought my config was the issue. Built an entirely new PC with crazy specs, still happens. Lately I had to refund Hogwart Legacy for instance because it's a stutter fest. But basically 90% of game I played had this issue, all Unreal Engine games too (PSO Cache) . Only older games without asset streaming or simple graphics don't have those issues. I think most people don't realise that yet because there aren't many that play in >60 fps and competitive gaming don't have those problems because they actually solve it by compiling shaders at the start. The funny part is the Steam Deck is sometime smoother than PC gaming because they share the caches.

[@Crashed131963]

Try and play new AAA games on a $500 PC .

[@jasonackerman6578]

Very well done video man. This is why i got hooked on BattleBit, first game in a decade to bring me back.

[@quintonmcleod599]

It isn't just video games. It's movies, TV shows, music and everything else. We're looking at an end of an era.

[@nickmoyer9112]

It seems like corporate greed has just sucked the soul out of everything

[@indianhistorybuff]

TV is almost better than ever. Yeah movies and video games suck. Music is almost exactly like video games in one sense that AAA sucks but Indie stuff is amazing and you can find things that suit your taste perfectly.

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

it's because they're hell bent on pushing certain messages and narratives. And some of these games are so big and expensive they can't afford to take a risk, so they go the safe bland route, which ends up being riskier in the long run.

[@hlogilehlogonolo5438]

I would say sports as well everything is dying or I may be depressed but football(soccer) just isn’t the same anymore Ronaldinho,Neymar, Maradona, Qauresma etc man I miss 90s football

[@FelixMCFrosty]

​@hlogilehlogonolo5438 you might just be depressed or wrapped up in your own personal nostalgia.

[@keylimeviking]

2024: "Making games is hard!" 2007, in thick Engineer voice: "Hold my dispenser."

[@stellarose03]

@@keylimeviking if only Valve cared about one of the best games they've ever created 😭😭😭

[@Sbk_SPG]

Its called minium effort maximum profit

[@oofmann]

"Doktor, hold my sandvich, we go show little baby how make REAL game"

[@Khorvalar]

Many of my best video game memories are playing with friends in the same room, no internet, just good times with friends!

[@amigosyl4573]

Same !! the best memories... I remember no internet 4 controller Duke nukem Mario kart donkey kong goldeneye Tony hawk Best moment

[@MetallicksFin1]

Yep. I have no feelings towards online players, and most of us just want to be left alone. Online gaming creates frustration, because most gamers aren't taking your gaming time seriously, or they don't know how to play and you must teach them all the time.

[@aetherland1883]

and that's also a problem in our modern era, not everyone has the privilege of having friends

[@MetallicksFin1]

@@aetherland1883 It's not like they couldn't make online game for online players, but they try to force everyone to play online games only.

[@B0RDERLANDFAN85]

I still invite friends over for mario party smash ultimate and Mario kart and my older Nintendo systems because at age 36 I don't ever want to give up local multiplayer ever its always going to be fun

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

I wish I could give more than 1 like to this video. Damn, you're talented !

[@feplays007]

All of this is a great example of why Nintendo was an absolute success with the Switch, because while Xbox and PlayStation lost their way, Nintendo never deviated from their path.

[@arabidmeerkat247]

As a Switch owner, I know that our console isn't as powerful, but we have some great games and some great ports too.

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

@@arabidmeerkat247if people actually care about power they play PC so who cares as long as the games are fun and they are(on switch)

[@koppii2]

@@arabidmeerkat247 people actually play the switch sports?

[@ArcadeChan]

Totally agree, it is the 3rd best selling gaming console so far. Just hope it continues with the new system…..😅

[@intermsofreality]

@@fritzthecat8158 Not fun if the game runs like a slideshow. Power does matter to a degree.

[@KissyKaede]

What happened? #1 - They didn't make any games #2 - They released the consoles during a global chip shortage #3 - They didn't do A N Y T H I N G about scalpers; NOBODY could get a PS5 for the first 2 years it existed #4 - They didn't make any games #5 - THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY GAMES. THERE ARE NO GAMES.

[@2Drunk2Care-s6w]

Not only that, you would of think, how much money they were losing to that "chip shortage" crisis?

[@zidan40o0]

you forgot: MUH GRAFUX which leads games to take decades to finish.

[@KissyKaede]

@@zidan40o0 Yeah muh graffix really destroyed the scene, didn't it? It's hilarious because games like Project Zomboid that look like PS1 games blow pretty much everything graffixweenies enjoy out of the water.

[@arostwocents]

They put all their focus on live service along with all strong 3rd parties meaning the console offers nothing other than Astro Bot. It's just addiction which isn't attractive.

[@mebbin]

You didn't have to take me out with the nostalgia bomb at the end 😭 I was one of those kids who went ballistic upon unwrapping a N64 on Christmas of 1996. I also worked at a GameStop from 2008-2012 during the peak of the 7th generation. It was a blast and an honor to have experienced the best eras of gaming during the formative years of my life. I hope we'll see something similar someday...

[@MrSweetPrince]

Loved the video! So glad youtube suggested it, you put in words everything I was thinking and wondering!

[@KayOnZe]

I remeber being a kid in the 2000s playing COD MW2 and a guy on xbox live told me he could tell i was black because of how comfortable i am around gunshots. Fell in love with games from that day on

[@MattTheHuman9]

Another major reason why people are moving to PC is because of paid online for consoles. Got sick of paying for PS Plus all the time that it motivated me to go to PC where it's free.

[@Papinak2]

Free for now. Once publishers lose enough profits from consoles, they lock online behind paid account even on PCs.

[@e5m956]

Glad I don't play online at all anymore...

[@clutch_rich]

@@Papinak2 it’ll never happen on PC they would lose more money because no one would pay for it. You can regulate consoles that aren’t “directly connected” to the internet, but on PC that kind of regulation would never be possible and even if people would find loopholes.

[@izzey0729]

We have reached the end. These companies have no idea where to go from here. The best years are behind us. 😢

[@jordanwilliams2031]

Nah, just play indies until these folks go bankrupt from their mistakes and the next crop of decent companies comes up. If the consoles remain crap, switch to PC

[@pikamaster001]

Welp only nintendo is doing their best with ideas in hardware and games. Sony and microsoft forgot what consoles was for. I have vivid memories with multiplayer offline at my or friends house. Now the only console we start up us the switch for smash bros, mario party , mario kart or zelda, metroid , mario. The game mechanic is fun and the graphic is only a 2nd thought. Sony and Microsoft graphic first, DEI second, Story third and game mechanic fourth.

[@TheRealJimmyJams]

We’re just bags of $$$ to them now

[@theoldgods8229]

We’ve reached an end because activists have taken over the industry and cratered it. AI will be the great equalizer, small groups of people will be able to produce impressive games in the next 5+ years that put the big developers to shame.

[@Nersius]

​@@theoldgods8229Small teams have been dunking on the mainstream since the PS3 era. Also, Companies go to what makes the most money, so they're going all in on inoffensive live services (the current big thing) in a bid to be the next mega-hit, which has been their meta for forever Not sure where 'activism' is coming in.

[@Onkarr]

Still remember seeing Sonic hedgehog on screens as a kid in town and that was a feeling ✨

[@matro951]

The problem with 8th and 9th Gen is they release games that aren't done then patching it

[@samuelketner1391]

I mean, that's always been the case ( Destroy all humans Path of the Furon for instance) but yes gen 9 especially has been the biggest offender

[@eccomi21]

that is a problem with gaming right now in general and has been for years

[@233kosta]

Only one solution - DO NOT BUY THEM. If it needs a day one patch - it's incomplete. We do not pay for incomplete products.

[@LacTose90]

@@233kosta but most games are like that back then and now it's pretty normal for updates and honestly I'd rather the game get fixed instead of leaving it a buggy mess.

[@233kosta]

@@LacTose90 I'd rather it not get released "on time" and get something playable on day one.

[@oibraizolebulla]

This gen of consoles feel 'irrelevant'

[@hemigoleo]

I use a PS4. I’m never getting a PC. It’s so fun. Touch grass and stop complaining.

[@howtorawk]

Bought a ps5 in 2021, barely use it. Ended up building a pc a few months ago, wish I never bought the ps5

[@jefmoesy]

@@howtorawk At least u'll be able to play GTA 6 at launch, that's the only positive thing i can think of about the ps5.

[@jefmoesy]

@@hemigoleo U basically have a pc, it's just made into a compact form without the ability to upgrade and with shitty software on it, and where they make you pay to use the internet u already paid for..😂

[@howtorawk]

@@jefmoesy good point, still a waste of money and regrettable decision lol

[@rafaelorona1395]

Wow! Those last two minutes of videos of people excited about their consoles made me feel so nostalgic. Gaming rarely feels like that anymore and it’s the biggest this industry has ever been. I miss feeling hyped and excited about playing a game.

[@CommanderJ135]

😭😔

[@macdealer7936]

We're just old now...

[@NobS-Worldwide]

your presentation is awesome bro.. ive seen this video mulitple times lol

[@781stino]

The lines have blurred. I’m 41 years old. The jump from 8-16 bit and the jump from 16-32 up to the Xbox 360 generation was the best.

[@_MaZTeR_]

Good for you. I still remember how games went from the 2010s low res-texture, kinda low poly but kinda realistic era to really photorealistic in a manner of couple of years. These days, the game released today looks pretty much as good as one that is 9 years old. Arkham Knight is 9 years old and looks like it was made a year ago. Just wish it were the same with the actual gameplay and content of these new games. Every game is starting to become extremely predatory.

[@LWNightmareSheriff]

It was

[@xenobreak1160]

​@@_MaZTeR_ That's the problem, games are too photo realistic. Where do you go after photo realistic?

[@m.primafadhilah7960]

i really love the montage at the end of this video, it brings so much memories when video game consoles were so strong at the time, not just the hardware of the consoles, but the families and friends who bring much closer to us because of the consoles itself.

[@abinodattil6422]

Tru, ps5 seems to have been a waste

[@enigmatico6209]

It's not just consoles. It's everything. This society has stalled and it's about to collapse because corporations have overgrown way past their limit, corporate greed is ruling our world, and the worst part is that there is absolutely no innovation whatsoever. Remember when you bought your PS3/360 after playing with your PS2/XBOX? Remember how mind blowing it was to experience the next generation? And then people upgraded to PS4/ONE and they were disappointed. And then PS5/Series X came and nobody bought them at the time, first because it was impossible due to waiting lists and then because they had no games you couldn't play on the previous generations. And the graphics aren't even that impressive for their price anyways. Simply put, they don't have anything else to offer anymore, they stalled. The feeling of advancement and accomplishment from the 2000s is long gone.

[@PhyrexJ]

‘Nobody bought them’ Ehm that’s not entirely true now is it

[@nickmoyer9112]

I agree with you. Collapse is coming, some have argued it’s already happened. I feel culturally we have collapsed, economically we’re about too soon. For good or worse a lot will change in our society in the near future.

[@emilevankrieken6161]

You just grew old mate

[@nickmoyer9112]

@@emilevankrieken6161Perhaps, probably so. But I still love gaming, love movies. It’s just seems obvious there’s a lack of soul in both those industry’s. The 2010’s and 2020’s have something missing in them that the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, 00’s, had. No innovation, no risk taking, afraid to offend people, etc, etc.

[@enigmatico6209]

@@PhyrexJ Quote the entire phrase. "nobody bought them **at the time**". Suddenly it makes a lot more sense, in a context where you needed to join a months-long waiting list to get one, if you got one at all, just to play one or two games.

[@goodonesaysme123]

Thanks for this amazing video bro, I do miss those nostalgic gaming days. Bring back Sega Consoles again!

[@primeoetgrunn]

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a nephew a few days ago. We were talking the games we played: he played EAFC, Fortnite and COD on his PS5. I said I played Lego2KDrive, Cyberpunk 2077 and Transformers Devastation on my PS4. I was barely done talking about the fun I had in the singleplayer experiences in those games and he had the look on his face, the look in his eyes of regret and lost nostalgia. Then we talked about the Nintendo Switch and he visibly regretted saying it was just for children when another nephew was having great fun playing Pokémon: Sword and we talked about Legends: Arceus and Scarlet. We got to talking about the Arcade-racer boom during the PS3 and XBox 360 era, games they fell in love with as fundamental experiences that drove their passion for the games we play now. It became clear to me that gaming has evolved in a nasty direction, full of 'surprise mechanics' and P2W $70,- games. The very last time anyone in my family had any genuine 'laugh out loud' fun with gaming was when we played Mario kart 8 and Burnout Paradise together in one room.

[@gorry123]

Burnout Paradise is still a good banger, we keep playing it on PS4 in the party mode, it's always fun.

[@noelvalenzarro]

Me and my brothers have a blast playing Rain Worlds four player jolly coop. This type of fun isn’t gone or anything it’s just that you’ll find it with indie games now.

[@igodreamer7096]

I got you. Gaming devolved from a family-friends together experience to an experiment on Wall Street. Good thing we have indies at least.

[@TheFluffyDuck]

Meanwhile Nintendo: "Dont call it a comeback I never left".

[@One-ct3xe]

Aonuma said knock you out!

[@Hamdad]

"Now hold my sake while I sue everybody so you can't emulate games we won't sell you"

[@B0RDERLANDFAN85]

@@Hamdad strawman point

[@HopperSamaa]

W hardware as strong as a PS3, and game series that are too scared to step out of their comfort formula

[@Ripley93]

@@HopperSamaa Zelda was basically rebooted with Breath of the Wild tho.

[@ClaudioBalbin]

The ending of the video made me quite emotional. I'll never forget the feeling I had opening and playing the SNES on xmas. Years later same feeling with a Sega Saturn and then the PSOne. Thanks Dad and Mom, I'll never forget that.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

I thought i was alone in not bothering with the current gen console and sticking with my PC and Switch. But nope...

[@T57Custodian]

@@EQOAnostalgia PC aint worth the money it requires to play top end games. Switch don't se attractive and xbox give more good multilayer games. The updates and downloads take longer and this guy is very narrow minded on this. The only issue is there are no good games being made that's it.

[@T57Custodian]

Pc bias bs ps propaganda video. The only issue is games. That's it.

[@smayaan2479]

They need to separate online gaming from subscription. That’s the most shittiest thing to do. No one wanted that extra hit on theirwallet

[@kacperolszowski1331]

xbox 360, one and ps4 all had paid online, only ps3 was online focused console with free online, so it was always there and is one of the most sensible thing for subscibtions, because server upkeep is a thing and it needs constant money flow

[@Taevas___]

@@kacperolszowski1331 I'm sure both Sony and Microsoft could easily fund server upkeep through the 30% they gain from each game purchase. That's exactly what steam does.

[@jjay350]

@@kacperolszowski1331 Wii and Wii U also had free online

[@mkaleborn]

I will concede that a fee is warranted for upkeep of servers, chat/party features and so on. But the absurd prices they are charging now is simply predatory in my opinion. Was it it like $95 Canadian a year just to be able to play online? Thats just terrible. No way internet connectivity, bandwidth or server/cloud services are 2x more expensive now than 15 years ago.

[@TalesOfWar]

@@kacperolszowski1331 The sub kind of makes sense when that's the only way you're going to make money to run the servers, but all the DLC and especially the ads we have now should really negate that. Not to mention we still get the same crap on PC where they'll stop running the servers but offer no way to run your own, which isn't really a limitation on PC like on console (unless it's p2p). I remember the outcry when MW2 (the original) dropped dedicated PC server support. It was only a matter of time before everyone else started doing it, to force people to play the new game rather than continue with the old one. They saw just how popular MW1 was (the original...). It still is.

[@Kitty_Kankles]

I think the lesson here is that limitation breeds creativity

[@mahasevishal]

this video was more entertaining than actually playing a game in this generation

[@proggz39]

This sums it up perfectly. You guys like crying about everything in online discourse more than just sitting down and enjoying a game

[@jjay350]

@@proggz39 A lot of people don't like slop.

[@mahasevishal]

@@proggz39 games are just straight up boring now and not fun anymore. after 20years of gaming i'm starting to get bored now