10 WORST Guns That Are Downright HILARIOUS

[@thatoneguyyouknow6470]

I love how Borderlands made the bane have such a hype buildup, just for it to do… THAT

[@michaelknox3715]

Yep. That voice is pure cringe

[@ReleasedHollow]

@@michaelknox3715 loved using it tricking my early game friend saying "I don't hear anything, you sure it's not your game?" I would just fire it randomly in little bursts.

[@KickyFut]

It really was a strong gun tho! It did double damage compared to a similarly leveled gun, and you just had to run around with another one until you needed it, then switch when you had to.😅

[@MrTerrorzone2012]

@@KickyFut I had one with slag on a Mecromancer SMG build. it's a great setup weapon. My friends hated me for a while 😂

[@bartoszsmietana1]

I used Bane a lot, nice DMG, the sound that it makes really didn't bother me.

[@mrturret01]

The JK-47 from Enter the gungeon always cracks me up. Before you pick it up, it has the same sprite as the AK-47, but upon equipping it the barrel goes flaccid. It has a lower fire rate than the AK.

[@drgenki6491]

Klobbe is much worse, at least to me

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

Lmao that sounds awesome.. I've never played Enter the Gundgeon but that sounds funny as hell..

[@TheySayImTubby]

@@drgenki6491 nah klobbe is actually useful

[@EvilPaladin11]

Funny that I'm your 34th like, in a comment about a flaccid gun.

[@Melbeezo]

Etg is a masterpiece

[@zettor47]

That little plasma gun in Deus ex is useful for destroying doors or safes, does real good damage vs them.

[@DoctorSess]

I knew it had to have a purpose

[@Dovah_Slayer]

So it's a futuristic breaching charge basically

[@jaylin3321]

So out of these 10, the water pistol is the best gun

[@godanibal3234]

Yes you could blind enemies that saw you shooting water at their eyes

[@woofspider330]

Hence why it is number 10 in a list of worst guns

[@godanibal3234]

@Brandon Burrow that I never tried so maybe I’ll try it on my birthday

[@Nemephosis]

Let's go with "least bad".

[@orlandomagician8321]

#2 is the bubble gun

[@featuresnobodyaskedfor]

I never knew you couldn't mute the bane by turning off the system sound, that's honestly such a hilarious thing.

[@foxxbaker]

That is evil

[@1408Phantom]

0:38 "You can use it to distract guns", boy, Falcon's really speedrunning the flubs nowadays

[@maximuslongrod6361]

i was like.... really? all these guns have that short of an attention span?

[@hattoripool1533]

I got a worst gun that is downright hilarious it’s the Striker from Fallout 4 which is a modified mini nuke that fires bowling balls instead of mini nukes

[@mackenziemoore5088]

Hold on, now. That gun was actually SUPER effective, especially if you slapped the MIRV attachment on it lol it hit like a fucking truck, and had great stun and knock back chance. Plus you can pick the bowling balls back up lol

[@Dan-Kart]

The Strikers not bad, you can use it to make a MIRV minigun!

[@theldraspneumonoultramicro405]

it's only bad if you have no idea how to use it, once you figure it out it's one of the most powerful weapons in the game, or perhaps even the most powerful.

[@Nyghtking]

I like it, you can also make money off it if you buy the two shot fatman from the vender in diamond city and then put the striker mod on that, so that it fires two bowling balls for the price of one and both can be picked up.

[@9volt0]

the toxic pistol from the Nuka World DLC is FAAAAR worse man... not sure what the actual name of that gun was, but man it does close to nothing

[@The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage]

This channel is growing on me. I love the actual personality put into it. I'm a long time subscriber, but never really appreciated it until now

[@gameranxTV]

thank you for the kind words

[@ro4eva]

@@gameranxTV -- Keep up the outstanding work. I like your style.

[@chocolatelover19]

@@gameranxTV what about the morning star sniper rifle in borderlands 2 making you guilty killing people hahaha

[@jhontheduck1370]

@@gameranxTV where is the love icon

[@Pazij]

@@gameranxTV beat at the end?

[@LordOfJazz]

I don't know if anyone has ever mention it but I appreciate how most gameranx video have a short intro and just get to the point. Thanks for the content.

[@adamgarms3727]

Came here looking for the paperweight staple-gun that is Goldeneye's Klobb...glad I wasn't disappointed!

[@TheHexidecimal]

Everyone knows you go RC

[@adamgarms3727]

@@TheHexidecimal Oh, for sure! That thing is a BEAST!

[@kellyb7321]

That gun was useless but I thought it had the best sound when you fired it.

[@woofspider330]

Speaking of staple gun, I just remembered that Black Ops 3 (or 4, maybe) added a full automatic nail gun to the multiplayer roster. Running out of ideas much?

[@tylerc161]

Came here for comments about it. It's actually named that because of a developer Ken Lobb

[@justincollins2804]

From Tower of Guns, “The Motivator” is a gun that becomes increasingly useless the longer you have it. At first it’s decent, but that might trick you into keeping it and subsequently finding yourself facing a game over screen.

[@deathserpent9747]

It tries to motivate you to keep it.

[@TheDuckumz]

I was the first person to find the Bubble Blaster in Just Cause 2's demo when the devs had us all looking for a secret. Spent alot of time in that demo thanks to the infinite timer glitch ;)

[@gameranxTV]

👌

[@Billyisyourdad]

Cool story bro

[@TheDuckumz]

@@Billyisyourdad I knew you would appreciate it

[@Poetic_Justice92]

How do you know you were the first person to find it though? Someone else could of found it first but didn't think it was the secret the devs we're talking about so they never mentioned it.

[@princedavid6377]

@@gameranxTV 😂😂😂 I genuinely can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or not either way it made me laugh

[@TheFringe]

Everyone low-key loves that tiny gun 😂 best keyring ever

[@ro4eva]

It's adorable!

[@ro4eva]

I wish it included a tiny violin that could be played.

[@danieln6700]

Never seen it before. It's great lmao

[@bringbacktheoldyoutube]

You can get a similar one in real life for cheap. They come in .22 LR and .25 ACP caliber

[@derealized797]

They actually do sell miniature firearms, and i mean some are just made as like models for collectors, but some are made fully functional with their own miniature ammo. There's videos of the miniature AK and a few others on here. There's also the 2mm pinfire guns, which are basically keyrings that do actually fire off a little pellet. None of this stuff is cheap in case you were wondering though. I thought about making displays to hang on my wall but... I'll have to wait until I'm rich to do that.

[@fensoxx]

So cool to see Goldeneye mentioned twenty years + later. When I bought it and played it it was just another game but at the time I remember thinking it was just amazing. Nice to see two decades later most folks felt the same. Hard to go back to I’m sure for someone new to the game these days… that said if you do you’ll never beat the train first try.

[@sumbum117]

Goldeneye is a classic at this point dude, it’s dope. Plus anyone who plays FPS games at least KNOWS it exists even if they haven’t played it

[@Graphomite]

I'm surprised your surprised by its following. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Golden Eye is the most iconic (console) FPS game. I'd argue it doesn't hold up, especially when you consider it's objectively outperformed by Rareware's own spiritual "sequel" three years later, Perfect Dark, but it was still a masterclass of design upon release deserving its popularity. Other than simply being one of two games to reach the local split-screen multiplayer chalice in 1997 (Duke Nukem being the other game), one of Golden Eye's major innovations imo is its audio/visual feedback. Certainly outclasses Duke's 1-frame flinching sprites. I don't think there's a game on N64 that ever managed to look and feel quite as crunchy as Golden Eye and Perfect Dark. Also, introducing projectile bullets over hitscan made Golden Eye practically a new genre of FPS. Regardless, it's legacy definitely proceeds it today. There are better FPS game to play these days(Perfect Dark!), but ya gotta respect what it did at the time. Basically modernized the FPS.

[@J-Realist1349]

Had some great laughs with this list, and you're absolutely right with how ridiculous these guns are. A couple more hilarious ones that come to mind, are the potatoes from COD2, punching demons in Doom and the flower bouquet from san Andreas. The bricks from the TimeSplitters series were pretty funny too at times, but were also fairly powerful if used correctly.

[@ronjerdee4979]

I always wanted the potatoes to be a grenade for multiplayer that were more for fun than anything else lol I think if you threw them at the commissar though he would order the others to gun you down

[@EllAntares]

not all ridiculous weapons were useless. A farting unicorn from Red Faction (which? Armageddon?) was a powerful laser weapon.

[@beartube1984]

Dammit, Falcon, you're gonna make me be that guy... Soul Caliber was not the cursed sword Soul Edge was.

[@LemonyFreshPine]

I'm glad I checked for this comment.

[@mackenziemoore5088]

I actually farmed the Bane untill I got a fire Bane for my Flaming Kreig build lol it was so fun

[@gameranxTV]

nice

[@Wiseman108]

Only Kreig would be crazy enough to enjoy a weapon like the Bane.

[@ayudatengopiedrasenlosrino3786]

0:12: 10. Water Pistol (Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain) 1:20: 9. Kolibri (Battlefield 1) 2:28: 8. Bane (Borderlands 2) 4:11: 7. SMR (Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 Zombies) 5:18: 6. PS20 (Deus Ex) 6:19: 5. Klobb (GoldenEye 007) 7:36: 4. Tranquilizer Gun (Turok 2: Seeds of Evil) 8:54: 3. Happy Bubble Blaster (Just Cause 2) 9:49: 2. Anti-Gadoid Gun (Dying Light) 10:58: 1. Everything (Daikatana)

[@wealth4rmwisdom]

How scary would it be to mute your TV but then the Bane ignored that as well. Ahhhhhhhhh!

[@n3r0wolfe]

00:38 "you can use [the water pistol] to distract guns" hmmm, interesting

[@Magician536]

The Bane ignoring ALL audio settings in game is top tier trolling😂

[@WhalesWilly]

The Liberator was an essential tool in the WW2 effort. They dropped those for civilians to use and disarm soldiers and grab their rifles. Yes accuracy is suspect but it's a bad breath distance gun and in 45 acp too.

[@davidschneider9145]

They were utterly useless in the war because they never left the US

[@themusesquad8554]

I LOVED "The Bane" and loved the guilt tripping sniper in that game too.

[@chris.3711]

I never get tired if that Kolibri animation. That realization of 'what?' Is so good.

[@MrBlitzed111]

Falcon's delivery + psilocybin = endless giggles

[@AlexanderPR17]

Imagine getting the bane at 3 am for your speed run on twitch and someone in chat says empty the clip 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cresinated8114]

The Bane was the ultimate troll back then and to this day I hats off to the classic Gearbox developers 🎩👋

[@Sassage]

You unlocked the kolibri with the martini Henry sniper rifle. When the game first came out the sniper did 99 damage and the kolibri just so happened to do 1 damage. It was a troll gun. You shot someone with the henry from across the map and than finish them with the kolibri to humiliate them.

[@lordschnitzel7961]

The Cow Gun from Just Cause 4. Extremely funny, but „udderly“ useless for killing.

[@Dan-Kart]

Twas mentioned in the vid, my man

[@lordschnitzel7961]

@@Dan-Kart I know

[@captainawesome103]

Nice

[@NGMonocrom]

Wow! You guys messed up. The Liberator is a real weapon. It's not a joke. It was made in the millions as an ultra cheap firearm to be dropped into occupied nations, such as France for Freedom fighters, during WW2. It was a single-shot .45 ACP pistol with a handful of spare rounds stored in the grip. It had no rifling in the barrel. Instructions for its operation were a set of black & white photos to overcome language barriers. The idea was that an individual would get as physically close as possible to an enemy soldier or officer, and then shoot them in the head. Before fleeing, take the dead enemy's rifle or pistol and any spare ammo they could. Obviously to be done far from any crowds. Then, take The Liberator pistol and pass it on to another Freedom fighter. Specifically one who had no firearms himself. Lather, rinse, *repeat* until the last .45 round was used up. Then, throw The Liberator away. Which, due to their ultra cheap construction, you'd want to do so anyway as they were made to last about as long as it took to fire those handful of spare rounds each pistol came with. These things were not made to last. Simply made to allow Freedom fighters to kill an enemy combatant, and steal his (much better) gun.

[@Dismas444]

It's funny though, Derringer pistols would have existed in this period and would have been far more powerful for their limited size and caliber. Kinda wish they'd. They'd made it an option.

[@josephhuggins5394]

imagine trying to fight wehrmacht soldiers with this piece of trash. they would be at such a huge disadvantage.

[@Tripskiii]

@@josephhuggins5394 it wasnt made for fighting them, it was made for sneaking up blasting them in the back of the head or wherever and picking up their gun. that was the intended use.

[@Tripskiii]

its okay man, falcon doesnt do his homework at all, like ever... he's always wrong in his videos and people still watch it, idk why.

[@ergheiz1245]

Yes it has use in real life but as far a gaming goes, thats a shit tier garbage

[@SangoProductions213]

"Single-shot" doesn't mean what I think you think it means. What you're thinking of is "semi-automatic."

[@CorvusCorone68]

if you're referring to the plasma gun from Deus Ex, no, he's right, it's single shot and you can only have 1 in the inventory at a time

[@robbie007pa]

And a semi-auto is actually a machine gun...

[@SangoProductions213]

@@robbie007pa I hope you're trying to make a joke about leftists not knowing what firing modes mean. As out of place as it would be...

[@devora4809]

@@robbie007pa lol

[@filip9587]

12:31 Falcon throwing his controller at how done he is with Daikatana.

[@gameranxTV]

😂

[@hansomesolo1136]

Falcon: "it straight up doesn't work on half the enemies in the game" Also Falcon: Continues to shoot turret gun with tranquilizers

[@TheLambdaTeam]

I miss several Tyrian 2000 weapons from the list: Bubble Gum-Gun, Atomic Railgun, Orange Juicer to name a few

[@BAN3FromNoWhere]

In defense of the Calibri, it's kinda hard to aim something that you're holding with two fingers by the trigger.

[@St4ri23]

Spelled IT wrong 😔 my country where the gun Is from Is dissapointed in you

[@williamhenry773]

@@St4ri23 Austria?

[@St4ri23]

@@williamhenry773 yessir

[@kyleharrison713]

I didn't know anything about borderlands coming into this, so that Bane gun has me crackin up, haha.

[@MOONRAK3R23]

Duel wielding the klobb wasn’t too bad with the auto aim in Golden Eye. lol

[@hansomesolo1136]

Lol I rememeber doing the same

[@fuzzypanda1684]

You guys mentioning the Klobb from Goldeneye made me smile, thank you.

[@worngspelling6231]

The banana in mgs peace walker. All you can do with it is to point it at the back of an enemy while sneaking for them to surrender

[@robinwells5343]

The real question about turok 2 is why did they change the formula when turok 1 was an absolutely brilliant unique game. Turok 2 was just another doom/ quake reskin. Turok 1 literally one of my all time favourite games

[@GreenOne01]

The SMR is semi-automatic, just like the pistols you showcased. Single shot refers to a firearm that has no magazine(internal or external) requiring you to manually chamber a new round after every shot. Thanks for sharing. Love the content!

[@nickgreen8548]

Hi

[@SubjectDelta20]

The Kolibri reminds me of The Cricket gun from Men in Black, except without the surprising damage and recoil. Also, another Borderlands gun you could've added was "The Fibber". The gun that has stats that lie to you.

[@brobafett21]

Ah yes, the water pistol is great for “distracting guns”.

[@ethanmcneal3871]

I love how you juge games in your before you buy series, most people are so one-sided but you make it to we're it is a true analysis and show the good. You also include how some people will like something and some who will not.

[@gameranxTV]

thanks

[@smallebige3310]

Fun fact when you equip the Colibrí you character will look down on like “what am I looking at?”

[@OrigenalDarkMew]

9:14 That HAS to be a referance to the song, Cow's With Guns

[@vslpuffin2344]

This is a awesome concept

[@aaronred345]

Honestly, my FAVORITE thing about the Bane is that it yells non-stop. Makes me feel less alone in that sense

[@djvelocity]

I realize that these weapons are designed as *jokes,* but some of them are actually *pretty clever* in their design 🤔😅🙌

[@brodriguez11000]

The cricket in the men in black movies reminds me of number nine.

[@djvelocity]

@@brodriguez11000 haha right?!! 😳😅

[@tempcone7644]

I like the fact I've been a small fan of this channel for just over 4 months and I'm not even subbed yet I still find the newest upload while watching other channels that have nothing to do with video games...😹 it's great honestly

[@coolerthanafrieza4726]

The water pistol in msg is actaully pretty useful that part where its a 1v1 between you and that fire guy is pretty crazy the pistol is also good for breaking radios without making noise so....no back up😉

[@warrenstarr4207]

See, here's the thing about the bubble gun: there's a glitch that happens in jc multiplayer that, when you hold the gun and fire it, makes the gun disappear and makes your character model point with their fingers at whoever your aiming at. So, in a way, you and your buds can go around hilariously pointing at other people.

[@j.j.9511]

We need a game to give us the gun the German guy had in Django when he shot Candy.

[@ryanwallace983]

A derringer pistol in a sleeve holster would be my description for that

[@Retisurfer]

Sehr geehrte/r J. J. Deine Kommentarsektion gehört nun der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Freundliche Grüsse und einen schönen Tag

[@frankcastle492]

0:39 hehe "Distract Guns" , love you guys

[@Dan-Kart]

You can't call the Bane bad, it's voiced by Tina!! It's literally my favourite gun lol (At least in base game, the unicorn gun is still a blast tho)

[@j.j.9511]

Turner?

[@Dan-Kart]

@@j.j.9511 No, Tiny

[@dieiceNGC]

Tiny Tina a.k.a Ashly Burch a.k.a Anthony Burch's sister

[@Dan-Kart]

@@dieiceNGC exactly

[@Yourname942]

6:40 we used to always call the Klobb the staplegun

[@bobblueton]

Is the klobb for n64 goldeneye on here omggg

[@bobblueton]

Yaaas

[@sunandprabhakaran2875]

The DK gun from Just cause 3 is also worth mentioning. When using it, Rico's head expands and when shot at anyone, it just fills their heads with helium (like a baloon) and they start flying. Pretty funny actually...

[@filiploncar1127]

You should put slime gun from terraria on the list because it doesn't do anything

[@Tripskiii]

lol slime gun xD

[@t.mendous7922]

That Kolibri had me laughing. He’s holding it like “EW! What is this?!”

[@xKCAZxLEADER]

The SMR in BO2 Zombies was a joke

[@frostysimo1394]

4:20 snipers are the exception to the "auto rifles are best" suggestion I can't remember what it was called I think it was the dsr-50 but that was my favourite zombies gun

[@josephedge88]

"It doesn't work on half the enemies" as he sits and shoots an automated turret....smh, really to do a bit more research there

[@occamsrazor1285]

1:52 So....it's useful for counting coup? (note that I was pointing out another use not suggested by gameranx, not equating counting coup to trolling)

[@t.n.carhart1097]

The first time I heard about the Bane, I immediately thought of D&D. A “cursed” weapon that does great damage, but completely screws you over, is *exactly* the kind of thing you run into in Dungeons and Dragons! I’m a Dungeon Master, and there’s an old saying that goes, “Never give the DM any ideas.” That definitely applies here. There may or may not be a cursed repeating crossbow that slows you down and screams all the time coming up in my next game….

[@badazzmaro]

The spas alone, you have to hold a button down to load the tube magazine, and it was designed to be semi auto and can be toggled to pump action, the purpose for this was so when using low power and/or breeching rounds that dont have enough power to cycle the semi auto action, in other words of you were using it for combat you would put it on semi auto mode, so in mw2 it should be semi. Also yes the closer the target the more devastating the shot is but the idea that if they are 30 yards away it seems to do no damage, and even if you lost that much power at longer ranges in real shot shells, i wish they made slugs an option. Even if it had to be an "attachment" it would still be handy. Of course the aa12 is not only a good shotty in games, its one of the best weapons in call of duty. Ok sorry went on a bit of a rant here haha

[@KefkaCasselstone]

lol, Dual Klobbs was my favorite weapon on Golden eye multiplayer XD everyone else hated to use them, I loved to use them, and they hated how I regularly killed them with it XD

[@Matt77889]

I like how gameranx actually does research on the games they cover

[@kadecoleman4104]

“There’s a lot of no good sons a bitches out there. Some men were just born to be buried.”

[@henhenhen19]

I LOVE THE WATER PISTOL!! If you have a silenced tranq sniper, you don't need anymore guns :P Taking out coms silently, putting out fire based light sources and waking sleeping guards? GOLD

[@irisfarley5367]

I keep the bane equipped in my inventory to scare my friends when we play borderlands every now and then. Its great. Its so loud that they can hear it when they are really far away from me.

[@omgnelonr1631]

3:26 I love this gun, it's my favourite.

[@igbsx1]

That Klobb from Goldeneye... It was like a full auto BB gun! :D

[@uncleflansy5621]

That's not fair, John Romero is a sweetheart.

[@connordoyle5930]

Playing coop with my buddies back in highschool and my friend made us do this random mission to get the bane. Only he knew what it was and said the guns amazing. We got it and all rocked it at the same time. It's in the top 5 hardest/longest laughs I've ever had in my life

[@gilerasmt50_]

I never from the start made the water pistol but I realized that in sneaking missions and side ops the water pistol is very fun to use, try it urself 0:25

[@kendisdai23]

About the Kolibri "I feel like I'm gonna break this damn thing" 🤣

[@aaronfannin8971]

The whole concept of The Bane is just hilarious. I'm sure it gets really irritating, quickly, but I couldn't help but laugh the whole time they showed it.

[@kik1rik1]

great vid and all, but can we talk about the spinning Glock looking ballerina at 0:04? Which way is she spinning?

[@squidge7436]

I love when you first pull out the Kolibri your character puts it close to his face, and you can tell he is thinking,"I know our military don't have alot of money, but are they serious?"

[@rebeccabailey527]

There was a totally useless weapon in oblivion, the dagger of friendship. It did just 5 damage, and also gave the character you attacked 5 health points, but using on an npc still counted as an attack.

[@ronjerdee4979]

The fork of horripilation was worse lmao

[@ronjerdee4979]

Or worse still: picking up and using any of the ceremonial weapons/armor from display cases 😂😭

[@jimschneider799]

@9:50 - I always give the gadoid gun to Dawud on my next playthrough. A useless gun for a key to a useless pawnshop seems like a fair trade to me.

[@lalitod1538]

I love how much recoil the bubblegun has

[@thedezoran2003]

The Bane 😂😂😂 could have been the whole video 👍👍👍

[@ericb3157]

i recently got to try out the Bane. the sounds it makes are just like when a "psychopath" attacks or takes damage.

[@themadrat1495]

Want me to make an even crappier gun? The G33 MINUS 33. An glock that has an ammo capacity of one, reloads from a drum (So, insane reload time), has an accuracy of 01 (Good luck hitting something with that), has a long pull out time followed by a long holster time should you swap, and damages your allies for 1 point of damage and heals your enemies for 1 point of damage, and cannot critically hit, it supports no muzzle attachments, and is the size of your palm.

[@Mr.Donkeypoo]

The Kolibri is awesome! There was a Kolibri only server and it was lit

[@pikashadow13]

The bane was like one of my favorite quest guns and what made me like it even more is that it’s voiced by tiny tina’s voice actress

[@Question13Mark]

2:50 the bane all I here is bane kinda makes the farting unicorn a bit cooler. YhAh 😂😂

[@SentinelOfficial141]

Fact: The Kolobri gun's Bullet is a size of an Ant Thats why its so weak

[@DanielDaAbadSukarno]

"Its not about the size swen its about how to use it!" JagerNUT

[@ro-ninma-ta3871]

Pee green? What do you drink? 😂 😂 😂

[@topdawg182]

Homie was spraying the bad guy on fire with a water gun… I’m too high for this shit lmao 😂 😂

[@YurieSnowie]

the Kolibri is unironically a decent finisher, it does 10 damage, the firing speed doesn't feel that slow but it's still bad lol

[@bluelion1079]

The main thing I love about this video is all of the office memes

[@gregos_79]

The original useless Bubble Gun was in Earthworm Jim 2. To make it even worse, you weren't able to switch between guns, so you had to keep firing it until you ran out of "ammo".

[@RandomIrishguy1]

I like how at 12:32 you can hear something fall in the background.

[@MOONRAK3R23]

@0:38 Hmmm… Distracting guns. That would be nice. lol

[@wapankiller1219]

I am so proud you included the SMR. So inacurated gun, same in close combat. Worse then a Stromtrooper of episode IV

[@ff7omega]

Best thing to do in Goldeneye multiplayer? When you pick up a Klobb you yell "ITS KLOBBERIN TIME" and then go on to win the round while only using the klobb