100% GUIDE TO EVERYTHING SCOUTING & DRAFTING IN NHL 23/24 FRANCHISE MODE

Our 100% guide to everything that you need to know regarding scouting and drafting in NHL 23 (and still the same in NHL 24) is here! Although nothing has really changed from previous NHL games, this video will take you through the scouting system that I use to get just about EVERY prospect FULLY uncovered! Whether you're brand new to franchise mode or are a seasoned veteran, the tips in this video will help to guarantee that you are always scouting to the best of your team's ability! Trust me, being able to draft players deep in a draft that have good potential and trade value will make a HUGE difference! Feel free to leave a comment here or in the Discord (link below) if you have any additional questions!
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0:00 Intro
2:03 Settings when beginning/in your Franchise Mode
9:49 Evaluating your Scouting Staff (firing low-rated)
13:39 Hiring New Scouts (1/2)
14:23 HOW MANY SCOUTS TO HAVE IN EACH REGION
16:23 Hiring New Scouts (2/2)
21:43 Re-assigning Scouts to Proper Region
27:06 Difference Between REAL & GENERATED Prospects
29:50 Example of How Auto-Scouting is Insufficient
31:32 Signing New Scouts on July 1st
34:09 Verifying that your Scouts are in the Proper Region
35:23 ROUND 1 OF SCOUTING - Playing Style
43:50 ROUND 2 OF SCOUTING - Strengths & Weaknesses
48:36 ROUND 3 OF SCOUTING - Skills Assessment
51:11 ROUND 4 OF SCOUTING - Potential & Comparison 1/2
56:59 ROUND 4.5 OF SCOUTING - Potential & Comparison 2/2
1:02:59 Draft Interviews
1:04:53 PRO SCOUTING
1:08:55 Evaluating Fully-Scouted Draft Class
1:14:19 DRAFTING
1:19:36 Re-signing Expiring Scouts
1:19:57 Signing your Prospects (Important Rule)
1:23:24 Evaluating Continued Improvement of FA Scouts
1:24:28 SUMMARY

[@wildbronco038]

You get Allsvenskan players during the "real player" years....the first four. After that, you are correct, they go away.

[@Data782]

True! I realized that what i should've said is, if you do get a small handful, they are not usually worth scouting. But, if they are, then you can scout them with the extra time from your USA West/East or one of your European scouts. Thanks for raising that point!

[@MeatMi1k]

Tried this for the first time in NHL 20 (the lastest version I play lol) and I’m in utter disbelief on how accurate this is. I used to just be so tired of scouting that I’d just draft randomly, take notes of all the steals that other teams get, write their names down, exit without saving and pick this players next time. This method is a game changer 😤

[@Data782]

Wow!! Great to know that it also works on versions as far back as 20! And I love your previous method 😂 Best of luck with this and thanks for letting me know!

[@redboi_]

Appreciate it data making a video on the scouting strategy, hopefully it works for a lot of y’all ❤

[@Data782]

Appreciate you way more, buddy! ❤️

[@owenposer6720]

I know I’m pretty late to this video but I use it every time I do franchise mode it’s actually so effective. Once I get really good scouts I’m constantly finding top 6 potential medium elite players. Top 4dmen ect. It’s so OP I can constantly be trading away prospects without worrying about emptying the prospect pool. Thank you data!

[@Data782]

It really is!! My pleasure Owen :) Thanks to redboi for sharing it, too!

[@danne1651]

This video is epic. I've been playing NHL forever, and love franchise mode. But to be honest, I've never really played the draft, I've mostly used the picks as trading chips. This has completely changed my way of playing franchise mode! Now I actually look forward to doing a full on rebuild and stacking up draft picks to find those gems. Can't thank you enough mate!

[@Data782]

Hey there! That's so awesome to hear!! 🤩 I'm so glad that the video was helpful for you and will add to your Franchise Mode experience! It's my absolute pleasure and I appreciate you leaving the comment :) Feel free to leave any other questions that may arise and enjoy!

[@tylerward176]

Awesome video man. Certainly this has to be as close as possible to "best practice" when it comes to scouting. Well done. Would love to see a video on prospect development too. I gotta say as well, and I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I actually kinda like how tedious and meticulous the scouting needs to be to be perfect. It would be sort of lame IMO if you could just click a button and get perfect results. The fact that it's a convoluted multi-step process to get to near 100% accuracy seems more realistic.

[@Data782]

Hey Tyler! Thank you kindly! :) Glad that you think so. Honestly, I'd love to make a video on player development as it's been highly requested but it's just so unpredictable haha. Some players never grow in overall despite appropriate ice time (plus scoring well), while others have huge jumps out of nowhere. That being said, yes, I agree with you! I won't lie and say that it isn't annoying haha but, like everything else, there is value in hard work. I wouldn't mind if it were a tad less "copy and paste" and required a little more critical thinking (see MLB's new scouting system), but I do agree with your point. Thanks again for leaving the comment and see you around! :)

[@DaRealJA]

Same I feel that aspect of it is real asf but we need to be able to edit players like why is it so hard for guys to progress.. I went to build a farm and just draft prospects into stardom but this game only allows xfactors to be added and some get removed after a year smh

[@FreshBread97]

Thanks for another great tutorial video!!! Learn something every time!

[@Data782]

Always my pleasure to make! :) Glad to know that they have been helpful for you!

[@jacobcambern7181]

These guides are golden! Thanks for taking the time

[@Data782]

It's my pleasure! :) Glad to know that they've been helpful for you!

[@coachpauldobson]

This is incredible, thank you for this

[@Data782]

Thanks for saying so! It's my pleasure :)

[@bfudge18]

W video. Been asking for it thanks a lot!

[@Data782]

My pleasure! Hope that it'll be helpful! :)

[@zip5644]

i love this. if youre rebuilding you only really to do this for 3 years max then youre set with prospects for a long ass time and can go back to normal auto scouting

[@Data782]

Also true! 👀 Good advice!

[@adams9848]

Great video. Thank you! I'm trying this in 24 right now. Through the first 3 phases there's nobody showing potential. January 22nd. I'll try keeping the faith, haha. Let's see.

[@Data782]

Thank you very much! It was my pleasure :) And don't worry, that's exactly how it should go! You won't see any potential until the "potential and comparison" phase is done. By doing all of the other phases before, it leaves that last one as what unlocks everything! Let me know if you have any questions and best of luck!

[@Daiglebitez506]

This is awesome for 24. First year not as thorough because season starts later so unless maybe round 1 goes later than Oct 1st otherwise some.scouts will only scout 5 or 6 players to that date. Also.... towards the end of season, my scouts who are finished and have down time, I send to the bigger leagues and use the find prospects tab to have them search for undrafted free agents I might want instead of searching through the full free agent list after the draft. Only done it twice so I won't stand behind it yet. Only way I could make the find prospects useful. I will say watching your video has totally changed my viewpoint on how to play franchise mode. As a guy who plays most of the games with realistic settings, it's gets boring game after game at about a half season.

[@Data782]

You're exactly right! Year 1 starts later so it changes your schedule just a tad but you can compensate by just scouting a few less players per phase (especially since there's less late/gem value to uncover). Interesting theory on "find prospects!" I think I'll try that myself when a scout is truly done in May/June and has some time to kill. I've tried a few different things to try and understand what that feature's purpose is and I still can't crack the code so it's worth a try haha. Let me know if you find success with it! Super glad to hear that this video has helped to enhance your Franchise Mode experience! :) I know exactly what you mean and feel the same way in the way that I play. Thanks for the kind words and feel free to leave any more questions that may pop up along the way!

[@acethehuskystar]

at 1338 you were talking about the time traveling scouts. IF You try to scout players while they are not in the region yet, it takes them MUCH longer to scout. To confirm what I am saying, next time send your scout and make in scout one person. Look how long it will take him. Exit the screen and sim a day. Go back into the scout and the dates will have changed on when he was to originally finish the job.

[@Data782]

Is that so! 👀 I'll definitely have to check that out! If that's still the case in NHL 24, it'll make the video ;) Thanks for the tip!

[@ActoSket]

as someone who didn't know auto scouting was able to be turned off and has drafted an AHL top 2 defensman at #9, I am very excited

[@Data782]

LOL oh my!! Get excited! 🤣

[@joakimsjogren_aldarom]

GOAT GM Data. Super helpful!

[@Data782]

Super glad to hear! :) Appreciate you!

[@420camk]

Nice vid! Already started my season with the old system of potential and comparison 3x, but I took a screenshot of the dates there at the end of the video for next season! One thing I never fully understood was last year you would select the players from the bottom up (13 to 1) rather than what you did in this video (1 to 13) which is obviously easier to calculate. Able to elaborate on that and what the purpose of scouting in reverse order was in the first place? Lol thanks again!

[@Data782]

Hey there! Appreciate it! :) To answer your question, I used to scout from bottom up not because of ease of calculations, but because anecdotal evidence seemed to suggest that doing so would tell you more about the higher end prospects. Over time, I started to realize that the difference seemed to be negligible, at least for me, so I didn't really bother. Furthermore, I don't go bottom up because each scout has a different "capacity." Especially if I need to scout until a certain date, one scout may get 12 prospects scouted in that time while another gets 16. So, I go top down and just see where I end up. Let me know if that answers your question and best of luck with your scouting! :)

[@420camk]

@@Data782 Excellent thanks for the response! I've been trying both myself as well but didn't notice much of a difference so thats why I was curious incase I was missing something lol Thanks again great vid!

[@andrewdunn9054]

Regarding region deployment - I tend to run 1 scout in Europe hitting all the leagues there. 2 each in USA (one Central, one for East and West), LIIGA, SHL, and RUS. Then 3 in each CHL league. If you have better scouts you can get away with fewer in each (although w the CHL I wouldn't). For example I have 1 A scout in RUS and he can handle all of it by himself. Same for my Euro scout. The sooner you can get some A rated scouts the easier it gets. If you run Pro scouts my tip is to switch your Pros from the NHL to the AHL after the Trade Deadline. You're not getting those NHL players then anyway. And having some info on AHL prospects and new NHL players for next year can help you make trades in the offseason.

[@Data782]

That's another way to do it! I like my layout as a foundation, and then you can move as necessary depending on which regions have the most prospects. Like you said, the sooner you have more A rated scouts in your staff, the better! And good suggestion on the pro scouts. Appreciate you adding your thoughts!

[@nmronnoc]

I cannot believe how accurate this system is. I have some insane draft classes now! It makes getting 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, draft picks worth it.

[@Data782]

Right?? It takes a lot of time, but it's so worth it once you're able to build through the draft! I love that it also adds value to late picks as opposed to just using them as trade chips throughout the year. Now, you want to hang onto them! Thanks Connor :)

[@nmronnoc]

@Data782 So, I did change things a bit. I like good chemistry on my bottom 6. So, I have two nhl scouts with A in every region and I send them to scout lines and strategies for 1 week for each team. That seems to uncover line fit. Just figure I would mention it.

[@Data782]

@@nmronnoc Beautiful! I had a similar approach before X-Factors became so over powered in terms of the line chemistry equation. That works just fine!

[@pogman7360]

W Video as always data:)

[@Data782]

Appreciate you buddy! ;)

[@vinniejames007]

Great video Data! Looks like a lot of work but seems interesting 😅

[@Data782]

Haha thanks Vinnie! It certainly is but it's good to know that, if you put in the work, the results will come voodoo-free!

[@JeremyCuddles]

The thing I would note is for year 1 every scout will be C or lower. So what I like to do is not only find A+ for region efficiency. But I like to look through their stats and find scouts with B scouting efficiency. It should be a couple spots above X Factor attribute when you look at their evaluation abilities. What this does is, the higher the scouting efficiency, the more players you can scout in whatever your scouting window is. I like to scout from pre-season to January 1st. I've had C overall scouts, with a B scouting Efficiency and A+ region efficiency scout about 15 players in that time. The same C rated scout, with A+ region efficiency but a C scouting efficiency will only get 13 players in that time. 2 players may not sound like much, but when you have hundreds of players in a region, every bit helps. I've had C rated scouts be able to scout more players than B- scouts. Although I imagine the increase in information found by the B- scout likely makes the upgrade worth it overall. Also, I would never assign players to traveling scouts. Always sim a day then assign players. Traveling drastically increases the scout time for every single player. It's weird. But yeah, always sim a day when assigning a scout to a new region before assigning them players. That way your scout isn't wasting time and you can scout more players. Love the video though, I always just spam potential and comparison and take some gambles. Lol. But I will definitely try this out myself.

[@Data782]

Great points! Thank you for leaving them! Looking at scout efficiency and staying away from assigning players to a traveling scout are two points that I will have to include next year. Appreciate your input and best of luck! :)

[@JeremyCuddles]

@@Data782 The video was great and the results speak for themselves. It's a night and day change from just scouting potential and comparison. I will say, I don't think I'll be hiring pro scouts to do amateur scouting. Even with high efficiency and region accuracy they don't scout nearly as well as scouts from that region. My C rated Nordic scouts are scouting better than some of my A- NHL scouts that have A+ Liiga accuracy. That's the only tweak I'll be making. Otherwise everything is amazing and has drastically changed how I view scouting.

[@Data782]

@@JeremyCuddles Lovely!! Thanks for that! :)

[@timduhamel8817]

a good draft interview has also turned a player into a gem for me, not sure if its consistent but its worth looking more into it.

[@Data782]

Interesting! Thank you for mentioning that!

[@timduhamel8817]

@@Data782 no problem, i know the process is tedious, but worth doing on pinned players or unscouted players that might pop up from ice or allsv.

[@stuartchadwick5940]

Hey, great video, it's helped me a lot. I'm having a problem... after I finish the first round of scouting some of the prospects aren't able to be scouted again, they don't show up in the list for the region scouts and when I try to scout them from the "View Draft Class" page there's no option to scout. 2 of them are 2 bar Franchise potential and are 32 & 44 in the class, so I really want to figure out why this is happening, if you can help that would be great.

[@Data782]

Hey there! Glad that it's been helpful! :) What you're explaining is extremely odd and not something that I've ever encountered before. You're saying that a player is able to be scouted, you scout them, but then, when going to that same region again, they are no longer able to be clicked on/scouted further or don't even show up at all? I'll be happy to help if you have some more info, and could even walk you through it if you wanted to add me on Discord. We'll figure this out!

[@redboi_]

I wonder who that member in the discord server is, must be a really awesome guy!

[@ejb_elite147]

nah he's kinda annoying tbh

[@Data782]

I hear that he's alright!

[@philia3425]

I don’t know where you’re from but you surprisingly pronounced French word pretty well. It is satisfying😅

[@Data782]

Haha merci beaucoup! Je viens de Montreal ;)

[@philia3425]

@@Data782 Ahhhh T'es bilingue alors

[@Data782]

@@philia3425 Oui monsieur!

[@MeatMi1k]

The wait is over ‼️‼️‼️

[@Data782]

Finally! 🙌

[@SGFranchis]

I find it ridiculous that it still works in 24. But thank you very much.

[@Data782]

Haha I'm confident that it'll still work for a few more games to come at the very least! My pleasure.

[@Soapford]

Been seeing this on the various EA NHL subreddits, great guide!

[@Data782]

Awesome!! :) I hope that it will be helpful for you!

[@ilift13]

Can you do a video explaining your prospect development strategy?

[@Data782]

The more I play 23, the more confused I get with player growth. My best players regress, my worst progress, and nothing seems to really follow logic. In my opinion, when it comes to performance growth which is the most important, you'll want to find players who have good base attributes, bring them to the NHL/AHL when they can play with appropriate ice time (not getting buried), and make sure that they have complimentary linemates. From there, X-Factors may be added, special teams time to supplement even-strength ice-time, and so on. I hope that helps because it unfortunately isn't always a formulaic process!

[@Onlythreee]

The way you said “Le Canadiens de Montréal”😂😂

[@Data782]

Oui monsieur!

[@melonfearless4775]

This works well I just stole a medium elite goalie in my franchise mode in the late second round 😮

[@Data782]

Awesome!! Great to hear!

[@JJHunters]

So im playing a 48 team franchise meaning i draft much deeper. Best to scout 400, especially cause its easier to get those 7&6 draft picks. (Would love a video dedicated to scouting in a 48.) Does this work mostly accurate doing it opposite? Trying to save time due to double the workload, if i scout everyone by potential first, get a rough idea of who is worth my time and who isnt and then scout by PS, S&W, and SA it would then give me a more accurate read out for the players who showed good potential early on?

[@Data782]

Hey there! That's an interesting situation that you're in! Doing the opposite is a good idea in theory but may not necessarily work out. One round of scouting potential and comparison may only uncover a player's actual potential by 1 bar, thus making it impossible to really know much. You usually know more after at least two rounds of P&C, but that would take a good chunk of time calendar-wise. But, if you could afford to do so, then yes, that wouldn't be a bad idea to start knowing who's worth your time and who isn't. Also keep in mind that two rounds of P&C isn't always a slam dunk for 2-3 bars uncovered. When I used to scout exclusively by P&C, some players would take four rounds to get 3-4 bars uncovered. So, what I'm trying to say is, if you want to save time by trying that method, I would say that it works in theory, but 1-2 rounds of P&C may not give you enough to go on to make it worth your while, while ALSO taking up many weeks/months to do so. Hope that helps and best of luck!

[@redboi_]

Hello, I have an answer to this question! I tested out the theory of scouted potential first, and it does NOT work. Everything becomes inaccurate and reveals less than the old scouting method.

[@Mixo_vsp]

I’ve been using this method for a while now it is really op. I’ve also been watching your penguins franchise mode. Do you use this method in your penguins franchise mode? I love the videos and I’m a penguins fan so that series is the best.

[@Data782]

It absolutely is! Thanks for taking the time to enjoy the Pens series - I do indeed use this method in it and all of my series! Looking forward to seeing you in our future episodes! :)

[@codymundy8661]

Not sure if I missed it in the video but do you pay any attention to prospects labeled as gems and busts? Is there a noticeable difference to players with those labels or is it just a suggestion?

[@Data782]

Hey Cody! I may not have said very much about gems and busts. Honestly, there are two ways to think about it and neither have really been 100% proven either way. One way of viewing gems/busts is a short-term view: meaning that this player is a good value pick vs. a bad value pick but neither will necessarily be a "good" or "bad" player. Then there's the long-term view: meaning that the game knows the underlying mechanics for player growth and a "gem" will have a better chance of growing/reaching his his potential while a "bust" will likely never reach it. In my experience, the long-term view seems to be the more accurate one, BUT, player growth still comes down to a lot of what YOU do and not just the player on his own. A gem can still stagnate and a bust can still be valuable. That being said, I still prefer to base my drafting off of potential as that's what means most in both the short and long term. If a player is a gem, that's a bonus. If a player is a bust, I may try to avoid him but, if he truly does look like the best pick available according to my criteria, then I wouldn't say that I would never draft him. I hope that that helps! :)

[@codymundy8661]

@@Data782 thank you! Sounds like you mainly use it as a bonus/tiebreaker rather than reaching for the gems. Thank you for the quick response.

[@Data782]

@@codymundy8661 My pleasure! And you're right that I see it more as a bonus. However, at the same time, I may not "reach" for a gem but a player having that title may make me want to "target" him if everything else also looks good (or if I'm stuck and have to take a shot in the dark). I don't mean to say that it means nothing because I don't think that, but, as I said in my original comment, I don't think it's what decides the 20-year trajectory of a player. Best of luck and feel free to leave any other questions!

[@trustparadox]

Looking forward to a video where you discuss growing/developing prospects optimally, since you only touch on it very briefly at the end.

[@Data782]

Hey there! I would recommend that you take a scroll through my replies to other comments on this video and in my Franchise Guide video. I've tried to put together videos in the past that discuss prospect growth/development, but the honest truth is that, although there are better practices than others, sometimes, it's completely out of your hands. For example, some defensemen could have incredible seasons but be stuck at 83 OVR their entire careers. Development is a combination of (primarily) potential, X-Factors, performance (stats + ice time), and coaching. Change one thing about any of those four/five things, and it could drastically alter a player's development. I wish that there was more of a "do X and expect Y" recipe like the scouting system, but that's unfortunately not the case. I hope that this was helpful and, again, be sure to check out some of my other replies in the past for more on this!

[@trustparadox]

@@Data782 Thank you, appreciate the reply

[@caseykolthoff5580]

I’m having a problem hiring an ahl head coach because I have to promote someone then when it’s the day of the coach I offered deciding they said they would have accepted but the spot isn’t available. Is there anyway around this you know of?

[@Data782]

It's basically a game of musical chairs. Because you can't have an interim AHL head coach for some reason, you'd have to do something like this. It will require you to fire a coach, likely your AHL goalie coach. Promote your AHL associate coach to AHL head coach. Demote your NHL goalie coach to AHL goalie coach. Hire the AHL head coach that you want as NHL goalie coach. When he signs on, demote him to AHL Associate, promote your NHL goalie back to NHL, demote your AHL head coach (actually your associate) to AHL goalie, promote your AHL associate (actually your head) to head, and then promote your AHL goalie (actually your associate) to associate. It's absolutely ridiculous haha but hope that helped!

[@chrisfchi]

How does the find prospects work? I've been trying to do an all USA team and I cannot get a good pool to do it.

[@Data782]

"Find prospects" does not actually "find" new prospects as it used to mean in previous games. Now, the game will generate the prospects that it generates every offseason according to your settings and if you try to "find prospects," it will just do some general scouting on the ones that already exist. It will not uncover a player that central scouting did not yet know to exist. If you want to get higher-end prospects from the USA, you can try to influence that by setting the quality of the draft classes and/or its prospects to "high" in your settings! I hope that helps and feel free to follow up with any more questions :)

[@ianfawcett3298]

Thanks Data. Great run through. The flow through the game is getting clearer but needless to say I have made mistakes and have restarted my franchise. Trading and the way trading can be used to rebuild a franchise would be really useful as a future topic. But for now the draft and its relationship to the scouting is so much clearer. Thank you so much. (GB) Ian - and oh yes GO LEAFS

[@ianfawcett3298]

Am revisiting the complete franchise guide where you do dive into trading . Will try again 😂

[@Data782]

Thank you very kindly, Ian! :) That's all part of the process! Super glad to hear that things are coming along! And thanks for the suggestion. Aside from the basics of "trade a team pieces that they want in exchange for pieces that you want," it's super important to keep an eye out of potential franchise altering pieces like an elite prospect who may be getting buried in the AHL who you can get for cheap. Very important to always keep an eye on the trade blocks! Condolences for the Leafs but wishing you a strong offseason ❤️

[@ianfawcett3298]

@@Data782 Many thanks for the condolences ! The question must arise now as to how much of the Leaf top lines need to be shaken up, released / traded. Back to the game .Thanks also for the AHL tip - I will take this on . I wonder whether this can be done through the player search function or whether there is a better way possibly scouting [?] but that would detract from the main amateur scouting ready for the draft. The main difficulty Im having is getting the number and quality of picks without losing the rising stars recruited in the previous years draft. The CPU thinks it can mug me all the time! [Leafs - will rise - but I remember watching Sundin and Domi] Thanks again . Really enjoying the San Jose series too

[@Data782]

@@ianfawcett3298 It should be a very interesting offseason ahead for the Leafs! A few different directions that the organization could go in. The player search could be used for this, yes! It won't tell you which players are getting "buried" per se, but it will narrow things down. For example, I'd probably search for players 20-22 years old who have potential of MED Top 6 or higher. From there, I can take a closer look at each one's situation if I think things line up story-wise. Haha absolutely, the CPU is very rarely your friend when it comes to the trades that you will be offered! The draft picks that you have will accumulate over time as you add aging players or toss in one or two when making other trades, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Worst case, moving on from prospects who aren't developing is always another way to get a later pick for a player that you're eyeing! Glad to know that you've been enjoying San Jose! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and looking forward to talking again soon :) Enjoy your Sunday!

[@michaelkeller5927]

Just wanna throw this out there, you can go into the rosrers in main menu to look at the whl, ohl, amd qmjhl and look at their pkayers to see who is top 6 forwards and top 4 defenceman. You can cheese the drafts for the first 3 years lol

[@Data782]

Haha that's true! That's why I'll sometimes skip scouting those players since I already know what I need to 😂

[@theangrybattlegiraffe9063]

Any chance you’d be willing to give a cliff notes version in the comments for people who don’t have an hour and a half to watch the whole video? I’m sure it’s a great guide from what I’ve read in the comments already, just a little bit daunting length-wise. If not, no worries!

[@Data782]

For sure! That's totally understandable :) The video's length is really just to walk through and explain everything step-by-step. If you want the shortest version possible, skip ahead to 1:24:39 and follow the directions. Let me know if I can help with anything else and best of luck!

[@abrokencrayon4344]

Do you have to do the search prospects thing for it to work or nah. In my nhl it dosent say scouting when i made them do that

[@abrokencrayon4344]

I just looked at it and it said confirm assignment

[@Data782]

Exactly! Always make sure to confirm any assignment that you send a scout on before exiting

[@muhnson6518]

This is crazy, I'm glad someone finally found the almost perfect recipe. Cant say I am surprised that it was you haha

[@Data782]

Haha thanks bud! I made my own tweaks but credit goes to redboi! ;) Glad I could get the word out and happy to hear that it's working for you!

[@samweinsteinsmith1836]

Too bad they don’t have a feature where you can just click a button that says “Scout Top 50, Scout Top 100” Etc. With just a click of a button you can save your save the pain of individually going through each player XD

[@redboi_]

This is so true, it’s sooooo painful seeing how long scouting takes when it can be done so much more quickly if you can just apply it to a group of people at once instead of having to click twice to scout one player 😢

[@owenposer6720]

Ea is too lazy

[@Data782]

Haha you're telling me! I appreciate how you have to actually work for your results, but the process is a tedious one. Hope that it will be helpful for you nonetheless! ;)

[@andrewgodinez2191]

What's the time stamp where you explain that all Canadien league prospects can't be assigned to the AHL only NHL or back to juniors??

[@Data782]

1:19:57!

[@terencedorsey8049]

Hmm interesting, so when looking for scouts especially starting out. Is there not much emphasis placed on rating for “ scout efficiency, prospect discovery, and X factor”. Example I was scrolling through a bunch of c rated guys to start my franchise. A couple of those guys have a high rating in those three categories compared to the rest of the available scouts who were overall ranked as C’s also.

[@Data782]

Not as much emphasis, no! If there were two C-rated scouts who were both A+ in the region, then sure, I may look at that stuff. But, at the end of the day, if you use this method, your prospects will be fully and accurately scouted so I don't really bother with those underlying ratings. Hope that helps!

[@terencedorsey8049]

@@Data782 appreciate the feedback, usually I’m just a BAP guy. However after years of the same stale mode, I’ve moved over to franchise for more challenges. Much love and respect from the 803 of South Carolina. 💯

[@Data782]

@@terencedorsey8049 My pleasure! I know exactly what you're saying, BAP has sadly become unbearable 😂 Happy to help and feel free to leave any questions that you may have along the way!

[@bradynhughes]

I’ve ran into an issue in 24 where the first round of scouting is only able to scout about 4 players before October 1st

[@Data782]

Ahh yes, this was a question in the Discord server right? I'll answer again in case anyone is having the same issue. In year #1, your season starts a little later into the calendar than when you start every season after. So, year #1 scouts will take a little longer due to that, on top of the fact that they usually have a lower rating which also impacts how long a report takes. It will get easier with each passing season!

[@alexmoosmann89]

Impressive to see the generated Prospect Adam Fantilli on the Blue Jackets😂

[@Data782]

Haha I added him manually as a created player and he found his way to Columbus!

[@brucecarriker4925]

If you assign prospects to a scout who is traveling, he will not scout as many players. It is better to move him, advance one day, then assign prospects AFTER he has completed his move.

[@Data782]

You are 100% correct! I'll mention that in my next tutorial

[@user-zk7vj7mj3w]

Can you do a 10 minute “good enough” version of this?

[@Data782]

Haha to see every step, unfortunately not. However, if you just want the most important information, go to the end and listen to the summary!

[@natesportsfanatic4670]

how do you change the order of the draft at the start of franchise mode when you go to the 33 team and create a team i was able to do it before but idk why i cant now

[@Data782]

Hey Nate! You can never manually control the order of the entry draft but you can have control over your position in a fantasy draft if that's what you're referring to! If so, let me know and I'll provide further instructions

[@natesportsfanatic4670]

@@Data782 no I'm talking about the first draft when you start

[@Data782]

@@natesportsfanatic4670 Ahh then no, you unfortunately can't ever decide where you'll select in the entry draft

[@natesportsfanatic4670]

@@Data782 I know I did it before maybe it was a glitch lol idk

[@jannekalliokoski1968]

Thank you, Merci beaucoup, kiitos!! Thanks also to redboi.

[@Data782]

Ole hyvä!! ;)

[@jannekalliokoski1968]

@@Data782 Learning finnish word by word…. Good (hyvä)

[@jannekalliokoski1968]

This new scouting system is brilliant. Works like a charm (toimii kuin junan vessa as we say in Finland (works like a train's toilet)).... :D

[@Data782]

@@jannekalliokoski1968 Amazing! 🤣

[@trumankeith4324]

How did you get so many generated prospects for the 2024 draft?

[@Data782]

The game generates a different class of prospects each year, nothing that I did :)

[@samweinsteinsmith1836]

Your Mic isn’t the greatest but overall I love your content. Just trying to give some feedback.

[@Data782]

I appreciate you leaving the feedback! You're actually the first person to mention anything since I got a new one a couple of years ago haha. It's a Blue Snowball. Do you hear anything wrong with it in particular? Volume, clarity?

[@ll-qs2xc]

This works for nhl 24 aswell

[@Data782]

Correct! Scouting/drafting is identical in NHL 23/24

[@alexandermccormick1413]

Do you recommend trading for the number 1 pick (dead last teams, I know it's a lottery) at the trade deadline, or keeping all my like ten 2023 2nd rd picks until draft day and then trying to trade? Really want Bedard, and he's projected 2nd overall. Also if I don't sign Euro prospects can I leave them in their leagues similar to leaving Canadians in juniors? (OK you answer this question in the video).

[@Data782]

Hey Alex! If you want the first overall pick, I'd say it'd be a better bet to trade for the last place team's 1st at the deadline. Even if that pick loses every lottery, at worst it's pick #4 and you can add some more value to get #1. Trading five 2nd round picks at the draft for #1 very likely won't be enough. Best of luck! And yes, as you heard me later say, Euro prospects will remain with their team if you don't sign them.

[@alexandermccormick1413]

@@Data782 Thanks so much

[@xaviergrande2819]

1:23:02 will there be a player growth video?

[@Data782]

The more I play 23, the more confused I get with player growth. My best players regress, my worst progress, and nothing seems to really follow logic. In my opinion, when it comes to performance growth which is the most important, you'll want to find players who have good base attributes, bring them to the NHL/AHL when they can play with appropriate ice time (not getting buried), and make sure that they have complimentary linemates. From there, X-Factors may be added, special teams time to supplement even-strength ice-time, and so on. I hope that helps because it unfortunately isn't always a formulaic process!

[@ryanlepore]

Important to note. The same scout has to be on a player through all 4 phases of scouting. PS, SW, SA and PC. If completed you will be fully scouted. However if you have players move let’s say up and down the draft board and you miss and Scout 1 does PS & SW while Scout 2 does SA and PC for instance, then you may have an incomplete scout. While the extra work takes time, it saves it in the long run. Using this strategy 4-5yrs into franchise mode with many A rated scouts, I have successfully scouted minimum top 300 and at the best, top 400 in players…. FULLY SCOUTED

[@Data782]

That's an amazing catch!! Thank you for raising this point! I think doing a double-check in May can usually negate being surprised that a player wasn't fully scouted, but verifying that the same scout is always on the same player would theoretically allow for more players to be scouted in the time from September 13-June 23! Such an incredible method and this point makes it even stronger. Thanks again!

[@Trifizzy92]

What’s the most important thing to scout? I thought it would be potential. Would you want to scout that first round? Just in case it slips your mind throughout the season and forget to scout if you plan on playing actual games through the franchise

[@Data782]

You would think so! I used to only scout potential & comparison but, in this method, it's important to follow the formula. Starting with potential instead of ending with it will mess with the results. I would recommend doing your best to keep the dates in mind, possibly by writing them down and keeping an eye on them as you go through your season!

[@Trifizzy92]

@@Data782 how do you get an accurate potential scout rating? Do you keep scouting the same player or does that depend on how well your scout is? Because there are some prospects that I know their guaranteed potential, while others are semi accurate

[@Data782]

@@Trifizzy92 Part of that depends on your scout, but it's also important to try and always scout the same prospect with the same scout for optional results!

[@martynilsson4731]

So much work for crappy 73 to 60 overall prospects? I always go for a trade instead, when I want a specific prospect. Takes trade value but is so more rewarding.

[@Data782]

Everyone has their own preferences! I personally find a ton of value in working to find a late gem who turns into a big franchise piece as opposed to just trading for top guys. But that's the beauty of FM, you can do whatever you like!

[@venomad77]

You said when you turn of owner it doesn't give you a budget constraint. I'm maxed out on my accounts and I only have 8 scouts now. What did I do wrong?

[@Data782]

Right! Your "budget" will always exist but, if owner mode is turned off, you can disregard and go over it. Are scouts refusing to sign with you due to a lack of budget?

[@venomad77]

@@Data782 They say they want to sign but I had no room on my staff. When I look at my staff I only had 8 scouts but my budget was maxed out.

[@Data782]

@@venomad77 And you're sure that owner mode is off? I've never seen or heard of that happening. Worst case, fire a low level coach to accommodate and the try to rehire? Very, very weird..

[@venomad77]

@@Data782 I ended up redoing my league. It worked fined the second time around. Thanks for responding so quickly. I enjoy your videos.

[@Data782]

@@venomad77 My pleasure! Really odd nonetheless. I appreciate the kind words! :) Best of luck and feel free to leave any other questions that may arise!

[@sportscity7626]

For me whenever I try to offer a rookie, they will be like, “I was so happy when you offered me, but this offer is ridiculous,” what am I doing wrong here? (Yes I’m offering them exactly what they want)

[@Data782]

That is VERY odd.. Are these entry-level contracts to players who you've drafted? If so, then I've never seen that before. If they're just rookies in general who want extensions or who are available in free agency, then that response isn't unheard of even when you offer them exactly what they want. Frustrating, I know. Let me know!

[@loltrip2741]

this is insane...

[@Data782]

Tell me about it! I'm not sure if you mean the process or the results haha but I agree on both fronts! 😂

[@loltrip2741]

@@Data782 both I just spent a total of 90 minutes of my life scouting fictional draft picks.

[@wesleyfallis5160]

Coaches? Anyone know how to hire coaches that will develop rookies the best

[@Data782]

When it comes to coaches and player development, you'll want a head coach with high teaching/coach influence attributes, as well as their specialty being "forwards" for forward prospects, "defense" for D prospects, etc. It's your decision on how you want your staff to be built!

[@brucecarriker4925]

I have never seen a scout improve...ever.

[@Data782]

I promise that they do! The overall takes longer than the region accuracy, but both improve over time

[@senorlaverg6667]

I mean, isn’t this cheesing the system and putting yourself at a massive advantage over the CPU? What fun is that?

[@Data782]

I disagree. First of all, this method requires you to put in about an hour of work per season to uncover all of the prospects. If it were just pressing a couple of buttons for a few moments, that would be another story. Second, the CPU teams also have their own scouts who are signed from the same pool of staff members as your own. They have the same information as we do more or less. The REAL problem is, the CPU teams never really reach for any player more than a couple of rankings beyond the selection. So, in my opinion, the only fun being lost is by the game not programming the CPU teams to draft better. But hey, at the end of the day, if you don't like having that knowledge, you needn't do it :)

[@Crushbra]

The reason your scouting "player personality" is just so you get 4 bars right? I don't think personality matters unless your using moral.

[@Data782]

Negative! "Character Assessment" is never touched - only playing style, strengths & weaknesses, skills assessment, and potential & comparison.

[@lukecostello4408]

I really wanted to watch this but God damn 10 minutes and we haven't even got past the basic settings....

[@Data782]

There's a lot to cover! Feel free to use the timestamps :)

[@iLightSoundGeometry]

[@Data782]

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