100-Year-Old Drag Race!

[@TedSchoenling]

"Double the horsepower and a whole nother gear" Sounds like a great T Shirt

[@ericolds4805]

Wouldn't that be an "A Shirt"?

[@kyliehargrave2056]

​@@ericolds4805lol😂

[@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.]

@@ericolds4805 big brain

[@taemitchell7419]

The fact that drag efficiently plays a huge characteristic in this “drag race” is hilarious, straight Tom and Jerry vibes at the line up love it😂

[@unhandleme]

Yeah, I’m lovin’ The Tom & Kasey Show! 🤣

[@ralphturner3798]

In 1962 I bought a 1931 model a pickup truck for $300. I kept it for one and a half years and then sold it because I was going into the army. During that 1 1/2 years I had no problems with the truck. Even in the winter it always started up. I would take it on 60 mile trips up into the Adirondack Mountains. I sold it for $250 and I sure wish I still had it today. Thanks for your very interesting video.

[@matrox]

It was just 31 years old. Like buying Like buying a 1993 Ford today. In 61' I was a young kid and remember still seeing a few 1930s cars on the roads. A friend of my father had a 1930s car that he still drove.

[@TheAreotrain]

As a Model A owner (1931 Deluxe Roadster) and currently doing maintenance on a Model T for work (1917 Huckster with an Appleton Auto Works Inc body) I can fully appreciate this. First time driving the Model T was this summer after getting it running after 30 years of sitting in at the factory. Almost backed it into the office wall when the foot brake "suggested" the car to stop. Both cars have quirks, but both are great to work on. From experience of driving both, the Model A feels like a hot rod compared to the T. Also for your Model A brakes, if you have them in proper adjustment, you can lock up all four tires (been there, thanks to an inattentive driver turning in front of me) As for the preference I'll stick with the A. The roadster I have I restored with my grandfather, so I have a stronger knowledge of them (albeit the T has been an easy to learn crash course). Plus with the sometimes heavier traffic in town, the number of country roads, and the fact that I can put on over 150 miles on it in a weekend, the A is better suited to my driving situation.

[@marcpavlik]

We must be sort of related, maybe , but different grandfathers. Grandpa Charlie was an expert on the T, A as well as, I believe what the boys said on the video, the model B, as far as other models, but He really loved the T. Dad was a T guy and I guess I followed suit. Both are fantastic. But I agree with you, from a T point, the A is actually simpler and safer, at least on a non wheel chocked COLD winter morning in Nebraska. OKAY, got me, I love old cars.

[@BobTheMartin]

Finally the "granny shifting not double clutching like you should" DOES APPLY to a drag race

[@puebespuebes8589]

😂😂

[@jameswillis8524]

Thats what i cane here for😂😂

[@mattorama]

I love the stickers on the T's windshield. It was already a classic car in 1965.

[@failtolawl]

Crazy how much raw development occurred in the years between.

[@OldThomMerton]

Kase, that was a VERY impressive La Mans start with the Model T! I really hope this series is getting lots of hits 'cause I wanna see more! Tommy and Kase, THANK YOU for working the classics so that us old farts can see vehicles we haven't see since we were kids!!!

[@josephg41]

This was awesome! You guys should take it one step further and get the 1932 Flathead V8 Ford, or really any early 30's V8 Ford, and race it with these cars.

[@danam0228]

A three way race would be great to see 😊

[@bid84]

@@danam0228I love three ways

[@danam0228]

@@bid84 lol, who doesn't

[@jerrykorman7770]

@@bid84lol!

[@HH-uj5ln]

Must have been one of the most exciting things you could have experienced back then, great to see people pushing it to the limit of these very old cars

[@sptownsend999]

Case, you *paid* for the whole spark advance, you gotta *use the whole spark advance!* Once you get it started, advance that spark into to-morrow and leave it there! I've found the fastest launch with a Ruckstell will be Low-Under, High-Under, then shift into High-Direct. Demountable Rims make tire changes a breeze. Also, definitely get a set of AC Brakes on the back hubs, and *replace those cotton bands with kevlar!*

[@TFLclassics]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@Vallee152]

I love how you guys go straight into the action, no BS like other YTers

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Yep, and they never ask us to like and subscribe!

[@Jim-qz6vp]

​@@jamesbeaman6337 they ought to, it's an annoying when it's someone you don't really like, but when you do and it's just not on your mind a reminder helps.

[@osmineretro9591]

Holy, a new TFLclassics video just got uploaded? And it's about two vintage Fords?! Drop everything you're currently doing, we're watching the video! :)

[@irishuwould5185]

This was a high quality video for it being 100 years ago

[@allareasindex7984]

Model A shifting - It’s very common for Model A owners to put the “correct” lube in the transmission which actually is too thin. The viscosity numbering system changed completely when the current SAE standards were adopted. Instead of the supposed “600” oil sold by the catalogues, go to a thicker gear grease. When you hit the clutch the gears will decelerate more quickly and engage easier and with less, or no, clashing.

[@trespire]

No radio, no distracting entertainement center, no car phone.

[@Mikhail__]

No USB ports.

[@whatdoyouexactlymeanbyhandle]

^-^

[@dalejones4322]

I had a smile on my face the whole time. You guys are a great team and the editor was fantastic too. The music added when the model t crossed the finish line was so funny. Great job guys

[@jamesonpace726]

A long time ago I had a '27 T & a '31 A & since I couldn't master the T's pedals, I sold it & kept the A, until I drove my parents on city streets & scared them very badly....

[@danam0228]

Lol

[@rymacreeks2k07]

💀💀

[@danielhomant2832]

20:13 The Model A was the immediate replacement after the Model T. There were no other models between them.

[@matrox]

They had a model U, V, X, Y and a Z, then they went back to A.

[@danielhomant2832]

@@matrox Nope. Straight from T to A. If you're gonna make a joke, at least remember the alphabet. You forgot W.

[@geoffpranger4002]

I own both a T and an A. The T is a 1922 roadster pickup, and the A is a 1930 rumble seat roadster. Both cars are unique in their own ways as you have described. I have to say it's a hard choice between the two, but I'd have to pick the T if I had to choose. I've hit 50 in the T, it's hairy at that speed, but doable. The A cruises nicely at 45-50. I've had it to 60, and some say with the right gears that 70 is possible, I can't imagine going that fast in a 90+ year old car. There are hop up T parts available. Check out the history of the Frontenac OHV head, you will be surprised. I really like your videos on these cars. It's unusual to find younger people interested in these. I'm 42 and it's rare. My buddy is my age and daily drives a model A sedan. We are definitely the oddity in the car club.

[@fanievorster]

The love of the automobile around the world, impressive technology and innovation of Mr. Ford and many others.

[@bz3020]

Tens? At least dozens must have asked for this.

[@PFPTHEGREATEST]

Both fans are having a ball😅

[@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.]

@@PFPTHEGREATEST both balls are having a fan

[@sushi777300]

The classics videos always give me Back to the Future vibes ❤

[@oidirk]

I can’t un -see that in the long shots Tommy’s lab coat looks like a dress with those shorts. 😂😂😂

[@enz6312]

Great vid gentlemen. Combines 2 of my favorite subjects, automobiles and history. I grew up in the Detroit area and visited the Henry Ford Museum many times. Highly recommended for ANY gear head.

[@BoydWaters]

We got two electric cars last week. A 2014 model and a 2019 Chevy Bolt. There are differences between them, in terms of starting, getting into reverse, drive. We haven't yet learned all the details, such as neutral or automatic car wash mode. Differences in key fob functions. And the older one lacks DC Fast Charge. Tesla is yet again a different charging setup... So perhaps the changes aren't as great as the leap from Model T to Model A. But EV innovation and rate of change is indeed right at the limit of what drivers will accept. Such a fantastic video, thanks for showing us these iconic vehicles. What a time to be alive!

[@weegeemike]

I finf it funny how flustered Tommy gets when cars break down...like dude you do thia for a living and two, this car is ancient, ancient cars are not running more than they are so he should just chill and roll with the punches, you know its going to happen and happen often. Either way, love Tommy and Case, great video as always. Best ancient Ford content on the 'net.

[@robervin9107]

The whole drag race was incredible and the tire change was shocking to me. Honestly I had no idea it was that complicated back then. For that. Outstanding job my brothers. The face reactions and tommy we knew you had shorts on bro 😂. It goes without saying. Kase your 3:52 You have been keeping up your singing voice. I can tell

[@tabdougherty8549]

I love them both! In Spokane Wa, we had a couple of guys that would daily a couple of model T's. All heads turned super neat! But, if I could only afford one I would truly enjoy a Model A.

[@chriscon8463]

What a fun video! It took me back to a stoplight-to-stoplight race in high school involving my Ford Escort and a VW Beetle. It was like the race was in slow motion…I don’t think we even broke the speed limit. In the end, I was victorious but not by much. He definitely had me on style.

[@653j521]

Easy to see why the Model A was a huge seller, especially, I read, with women. My mother, under 5 ft tall, could barely reach the pedals, and the first time she drove, as a teen, she ran over the house fence on the farm. I wonder how many were turned into hot rods.

[@ribbit1964]

Haha! I don’t know how serious they were trying to be but all I saw was the keystone cops does TFL Video! 😂😂😂 Thank you Tommy and Case!

[@TFLclassics]

You bet

[@vancity_coaster]

I don’t know how fast a model t is, but I do know how slow a model a is. When you went around the t the first time I laughed hard!

[@kennethwider7094]

Love the channel Case and Tommy. Always worth the watch. Just one correction Tommy. Ford built 15 Million Model T's from 1908-1927 not (8 Million). Also you don't need to do a drivetrain swap which whould hurt value. There are period correct accessories like the Ruckstell 2 speed rear axle and Rocky Mountain Brakes for that. Still rather have a "T". They're cute, hot and sexy just like Case😊

[@LonelyMusketeer0]

So lucky to be driving these amazing cars and im happy that you share your experiences with those amazing cars

[@stig120212]

This is one the best video ever in the world and gonna break the internet!! Two a wonderful fun way to start a saturday with a cup of coffee... love you guys!!

[@WAPIsfortheWorld]

Model A brakes work a lot better when you switch to cast iron drums if they haven’t already been changed over.

[@Rottingboards]

T&A racing! LOL. Made this dirty old man laugh!

[@fireboltthunder2360]

Nice car. Ford model A is such a classic

[@kingericson490]

Hey just incase you've never heard of this place, Greenfield Village in Michigan has a bunch of Model T's that they drive around. If you have questions mabey you could contact them.

[@brianmatthews9697]

I made a fixture to hold the wheel in a bench vise. Old axle for the T and a old spare tire carrier for the A. That way you can pull and push on it and really don't need tools. Rube-lube from Napa works good. Better than soap and makes a nice tire dressing. The bag works but picking out the residue is a pain. T's are fun but the A is a much better car. Keep having fun.

[@La.máquina.de.los.sueños]

I prefer the T for sure. It's finish is incredible... wood, brass, straw baskets, leather. 😃

[@ottf24]

need a turbo on that T 🤣🤣

[@jedtayloruk]

I definitely like the T more, it’s got a lot of character. I have a 1928 Chevrolet, lots of the same advantages as the Model A but with the dodgy wooden wheels of the Model T.

[@NYCS19339]

But obviously a superior Chevrolet... according to my grandfather.

[@jedtayloruk]

@@NYCS19339 He wasn’t wrong either

[@kaffielekobold8695]

It still amazes me to how influential the Model T was. Seeing that wheel come off to reveal the drum brake and spindle. It's incredible to me how things really haven't changed all that much mechanically speaking since the beginning.

[@memorimusic420]

Ive never seen such an insanely fast and exciting drag race! 😂

[@toyotaprius79]

Imagine the 2CV against these 😂

[@maszkalman3676]

The model a would beat it 🤣😆🤣😆 And the 2cv had 20 years more of development time.

[@MicrOvce]

​@@maszkalman3676I would say rather only 10 years, afterall they hid the 2CV prototypes from Germans in early stages of WW2

[@wh33lhousediecast]

Kase: "I'm not doing -anything" [Grabs an ice cream cone] lol

[@mjolnirev7890]

I can’t wait to get off work so I can watch this! I love the Top Gear Dr coats lol 😆

[@Yora21]

They are motorists coats. So you don't get grease and oil all over your three piece suit while you're hand crank start your car.

[@NYCS19339]

Removal of the headlight hoods on the A would easily add 3mph. Maybe you should try the muddy road course for the next challenge

[@whispanic]

Bravo! Excellent production!

[@michaeldemarco9950]

The model T did go all the way up to 1927, but it incrementally improved all along the way. The last model T looked more like the model A than it did the early model T.

[@marginis]

This sounds like a wonderful lawnmower race.

[@ralphtuck8509]

You guys have a great job! I hope you really appreciate it.

[@IGmeanwell]

By far the most entertaining video in the past month, loved it!

[@gentle285]

Case handled that Model T really nice! Good job!

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Very cool this video, not just the race, but some history and technical details as well. Repairing the tyre is a bit like those of a small motor bike, I struggled a lot with these in the past. Sadly the model T is not so much a bargain here in Europe, there are simply much less of them sold here and importing one from the US is a costly business these days. Surprised to hear that production only ceased in 1948.

[@hallkbrdz]

It would be neat to have a drag race with your Model T and the Fritchle number 283 from the Colorado History Museum. The T as you have found can go about 30 MPH, where the Fritchle EV was limited to 25. But, it's an EV, so no starting required, and more torque. Should be close.

[@Diesel14II]

This was very interesting, thanks!

[@MaxAC]

Two friends of mine recently purchased a model A and a model T. I am hoping to get the chance to drive them sometime and see just how antiquated they are compared to my modern 39 Buick with syncro gears. Lol. Great video. Cheers!!

[@donschiffer7400]

The photo finish camera really got a work out on this one...

[@kevinbarry71]

That model A was at least as fast as a Chevy Chevette through the quarter mile

[@MrSkoda105s]

Another great video guys! Thumbs up from the Netherlands.

[@paulnicholson1906]

you can lock up the rear wheels on the T with the service brake. If you have decent lining it isn't that bad. I have found the cotton lining works better than Kevlar but that is just my impression. Can't compare to new antilock brakes though. Obviously you don't want to tailgate anybody since it is an antique.

[@markosterman419]

LOL … you don’t need to turn off the gas. You should never and don’t need to spin the crank .. just set at 7:00 and lift to start. My 1923 model T goes from 0-45 in around 12 seconds. In about ten more it will reach 55. Would love to see people who know how to drive those things race.

[@johnhammond3056]

HI i work for a classic tyre specialist, and have fitted many of the T style beaded tyres. I just wanted to say firstly congratulations on getting them on, there a work out having to effectively stretch the tyre over the rim due to the rubber band style construction. Secondly The trash bag method works, but as you found out how do you get the bag out after. effectively you are left with a slippery mating surface where the tyre is seated to the rim which can cause issues with tyre slip on the rim if not inflated to a high enough pressure, with the added grip of modern roads as they where designed for gravel roads. My preferred method is raise the wheel from the ground either on a stiff old tyre, or something just big enough to seat the rim over without obstructing yourself from being able to push the tyre down past the rim, then insert the valve into the hole as a start point, work your way round the bottom bead with a lever stretching a 3-4 inch section over the rim at a time, you may need someone to hold a second level at the start point as an anchor, as to not chase the tyre round as it try's to come up again. Then when the bottom bead is on, do this again with the top bead but about every 12 inch's you will have to flip the bead by pulling up on tyre. Also so you don't run out of tyre stretch as effectively you are fitting the bead inside out, with the tube protector flipped to the outside of the tyre. once flipped you can also run a lever around the rim between rim and tyre to make sure the tyre bead I completely flipped. love the videos.

[@TFLclassics]

Great tips thanks!

[@wronganswerswoody]

Loving these episodes with the pre war cars, after watching TFL off and on for years, these episodes have made me subscribe for the first time. Please get an early Flathead V8 next. And another suggestion, do a "Denver 50" or something (on quiet backroads) to compare fuel economy on these old steeds.

[@spankyham9607]

I love you guys taking these old girls out for some fun and use them like they were meant to be used. Drag race might be elder abuse though

[@hernanvalverde3693]

I like the model T Thanks for explaining the different beween both cars and Keep making more videos

[@meramec]

9:23 Best advice 100% 😂

[@steelwheels327]

Very fun episode !

[@mr.mcginnis8928]

Watch out for the local laws on engine braking lol.

[@anncupid3807]

Awesome video guys We loved it Also love that you guys are so young and are so into these cars

[@BWGPEI]

Been involved with 60's+ for far too long. Thanks for the history view!

[@alexlarson2466]

Oh man CSU airstrip! I saw you guys driving the Model T back to Boulder/Longmont, just leaving South end of Loveland on 287. I waved in a dark blue impreza sedan heading in the opposite direction lol

[@olebloom1641]

On the A bump the HP, add vintage air, get the manifold for the cabin heating option, drive year round.

[@holywatergum6890]

Loved watching the tire replacement 😂

[@brianmcisaac]

Ford built over 15 million Model T's. And the A was it's direct successor. Great video!

[@nevco8774]

Roughly for more than 50 years all the vehicles were trucks, sometimes disguised as sedans, roadsters, runabouts and so on. That means the frame, motors, transmission, brakes, suspension, ground clearance, the hood, front portion of cabine were designed for trucks which by chance were used as passenger cars as well. The size of same group of vehicles were very small but same for car, truck, roadster, sports cars. Before that the vehicles were horseless carriages. After that, immediately, after WWII, the true differentiation between trucks and passenger vehicles started to appear. 😮

[@TevinWeatherspoon]

That's a super truck 😂. WE WANNA SEE MORE!!

[@marcpavlik]

A cold glass of Model T. If I had the money a Shay Model A as well. Used to be a small block Chevy guy for speed, please no hate, now I'm just poor and have none. Great video, few facts are not so great, but great video overall. Thanks for the videos guys. Helps us (semi) older to think and remember.

[@gamerboyofficalyt]

7:20 Drag race 10:09 first race ends, replacing tires 16:02 finished replacing tires, onto second race 16:36 second race begins 17:33 second race finishes

[@vincentrobinette1507]

I would choose the Model T. The Model A is just old. The Model T is Classic! I also like the fact, that you have to "know something" to drive the Model T, where as, the Model A is actually a little more familiar. Adjusting the ignition advance with the left turn signal stock takes some getting used to. Having the throttle where the automatic transmission shifter should be on the column is another thing, and, relying on the parking brake to stop, and a totally different pedal configuration make it impossible for someone to drive, that doesn't know how.

[@maphoozgaming8542]

That first race he got, GAPPED

[@lightninginferno]

you 2 are the people who should be the new presenters for top gear

[@jasonnaimie5465]

You guys at tfl, need to add a high/low transfer case to the model A. Model A owners add them for better speed, going faster of the start, and up hill, you can do 70 or 75 with one installed. in short it will bring it closer to a new car today in terms of preformance. think about it. the kit came out in the late 1920's to the early 1930's. I think it would be a good idea. great video, keep it up. If i was going to buy a model A and drive daily, that is the first thing i would do. keep up the good work.

[@floycewhite6991]

My father and his pals used to joyride in Cadillacs, which could diesel down the road with the ignition off. They'd drain the hoses at filling stations and drive around for free.

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

Wow, that snail is faaaast ❤

[@milesromanus7041]

I'm curious how a Stanley Steamer would go against these

[@hlk5887]

I read somewhere that you can get a synchromesh 3 speed transmission for the Model A. 2nd and 3rd would be synchronized and it bolts right in. Definitely an easier drive.

[@biggooddad]

Getting the trash bag out was HARDER then i expected because, well, i figured you guys had a plan, a technique, something i could learn from.........I was obviously wrong. Brakes as they say, "only slow you down," and what one, A or T would i prefer to own? Without a doubt, the one with the highest resale value.

[@BioluminescenceOfTheSpirit]

Why are you taking the wheel off the change the tire? You can change it with the wheel on the car, helps if it's warmed up in the sun first. I've used the trash bag trick, but i found if i put a deflated 13 inch wheel inside the T tire, inflate it, leave in the sun a while, inflate it a little more, the T tire will stretch enough to fit over the rim easily. The T tire shrinks back on its own.

[@Readrose8]

This is making me so happy 😁 ❤

[@jonelmer3518]

You two are probably my favorite for the slowest race ever videos lol

[@LITTLE1994]

The Model A sure lived up to its name as a worthy successor of the legendary Model T.

[@matrox]

The Pickup looks pretty cool.

[@kbous692]

If you just say 3-2-1 I'll hear you 😂 Very entertaining video!

[@tracer409]

You guys should take the Model T to the Montana 500. You would get a whole new appreciation to the capabilities of that car.

[@joeswanderings]

neck snappin' excitement and acceleration

[@ElliottTucker1050]

What happened to Dad's rule: No shorts ever? - & definitely ❤my Coker tires on my classic Cadillacs!

[@musikSkool]

They used to tune them back then too. It tended to cause problems with overheating. The rods got hot.